Guitars & Bass

[grand idol]

Oh god why

[toxic wharf]

Anyone have the 7 string iceman

The iron label one

[eternal yew]

Anyways guys

What are your guitar gauges

[wind mauve]

i now run power slinkys on my 7

i don’t remember all the gauges off the top of my head but it’s 11 for string 1, 48 for string 6, and 58 for string 7

[acoustic cobalt]

11-54 on one and 10-52 on another

[toxic wharf]

10-52 and 9-46 on another

[true glen]

Is it good idea to grab a di-box for home use? To record a guitar

[toxic wharf]

I had the same question due to some clipping issues I had with my interface but infortunately it wasnt really answered. I guess it mainly depends on how you want to record guitars. If you use amp plugins an audio interface seems to be the most logical route

If you record guitars with a mic'd up amp its always good to also record DI so a DI box would be smart.

[true glen]

I want to clean up the signal a bit more

[gritty garden]

How do you currently capture your guitar?

[true glen]

guitar > focusrite scarlett 2i2 > linear input in pc mobo

[gritty garden]

I don't see how you can clean it up more if your guitar is direct into the focusrite

[true glen]

and I have some noise that I think galvanic isolation might help?

as far as I understand di-boxes has galvanic isolation inside right?

[gritty garden]

No idea

[true glen]

I kinda wanna try to make diy solution just to test it before buy anything... but thought to ask first if someone have knowledge about it

[gritty garden]

I was just thinking guitar into interface into pc is the shortest/simplest path. I mean it might work but I have no idea as I don't do much if any recording currently

[true glen]

The problem is that I have noise when I don't touch strings, either I have sensitivity too high or I have bad grounding/whatever else at home

[gritty garden]

More than likely grounding or interference from something electrical

[true glen]

Hmmm gonna make diy solution and will share if it will work, maybe someone else with same question will stumble upon this

[gritty garden]

It could be anything. Ashtone sometimes has an issue with the RGB lighting in his studio creating unwanted interference

So he has to turn them off

[toxic wharf]

DI's have a cleaner signal because interfaces work with a pre-amp

So if he really thinks it necessary he could go that route, but I think it shouldnt be necessary

[gritty garden]

They'll still be sending the DI into the same interface and pre-amp was my point

[toxic wharf]

Ah yeah

[gritty garden]

I get the use when sending it over stupid cable lengths to front of house etc. DI also acts as a signal booster

[toxic wharf]

Well than I suppose the solution is indeed to be found somewhere else

[gritty garden]

At least they're not picking up a radio signal like some people do 😂

[toxic wharf]

I had the same problem, but it turned out to be my pick up height 😑

[wind mauve]

it’s not trve kvlt tone unless it’s picking up old Soviet sleeper cell activation channels

[torn void]

wtf

[verbal fossil]

what track is it?

[olive dagger]

My big 3

Harley benton with dimarzio atomizer (I left the stock covers on)

Cort EVL Z4

Ormsby metal X7

[acoustic cobalt]

The Wendy’s 💀

[olive dagger]

I thought it was funny

And then I put new strings on

Now it won't come off unless I take em off

When the day comes in 10 years I'll take it off

[torn void]

as blood runs black - in dying days

I found an exercise to synchronize both hands. Do I do everything correctly in terms of technique?

[toxic wharf]

Yeah, good economy of motion as well👍

[torn void]

thanks

[subtle abyss]

Wish I could get better sound quality 😅

Heres a little riff I wrote

[wind mauve]

how are you recording your amp?

[modest ravine]

Snazzy ✨

[subtle abyss]

Its just my phones microphone

I don’t have any sort of midi or computer to run it through

[wind mauve]

put your phone on top of/in front of the amp i would recommend

you want it to pick up the sound from the amp more so than the sound of your picking

[wet kestrel]

nice guitar aye

not fucking with the tone though

[wind mauve]

i feel like the guitar tone might be passable it just needs better recording

[subtle abyss]

Heres the pedal I’m using

[wet kestrel]

oh okay makes sense

[wet kestrel]

yeah maybe paired with bass and kick drum or should be fine

[wet kestrel]

generally i'd say that nothing can top the tone made by an actual amp head, either analog (physical) or a vst plugin. pedals shouldn't be the main tone-creating force when dialing a tone but rather something that helps to shape it. I don't like distortion pedals for metal

[wind mauve]

i more so meant it might sound fine we just can’t tell due to the recording quality haha

[wet kestrel]

that too yeah haha

[bronze orbit]

I just learned hallucinate and cancer by TDWP

I know they ain’t that hard but was listening to them and had my guitar out and I was like let me learn these since they’re in the same tuning

[waxen ingot]

Can someone recommend me a good distortion pedal for deathcore im lost on what pedals to get im doing a wish list for my birthday
And ima try and get stuff so i can finally like maybe start getting a good guitar rig and stuff im thinking like i want it to idk how to say it but like kinda mimic angelmakers guitar tones and shit idk im lost help

[gritty garden]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Find a good amp tone first, then use pedals to shape it.

If the amp sounds terrible to begin with it's tougher to shape with pedals

[toxic wharf]

Especially distortion pedals will sound harsh through not so good amp tones or bad amps.

[gritty garden]

Use Equipboard to find what amps bands you like use and it'll help you narrow it down. More than likely it's a 5150/6505 based tone

[toxic wharf]

Damn...I found a rather old little snippet from back in the day when I was really getting into modes and stuff and started improvising with em. This were some lydian noodles.

[eternal yew]

Anyways I'm planning to buy a Scarlett audio interface while also relying on plugins for the effects, is it a viable decision?

[gritty garden]

Plenty of people use that route paired with one of the Neural DSP amp Sims

It's the best value for your money, it's just the less traditional route

It's just you need to be a bit more tech savvy to get it all to work. It's not as boomer as just plugging in the guitar cable, turning on and twiddling some knobs

[eternal yew]

Yeah plus my amplifier is busted like literally broken

I need to rely on a more digital matter

[void trout]

My schecter c-8 Silver mountain multi scale

[acoustic cobalt]

Hot

[shell quest]

Do you guys have any recommendations for an budget friendly guitar for someone that plays VERY on and off? (I've been playing for 5 years SUPER on and off, I have a weird squire ripoff and it sounds horrible)

[minor peak]

old picture of me playing at a festival in 2009 or 2010 ...

B.C. Rich Warlock Bronze

one member band 😛

either way I currently play this

🙂

[brazen ridge]

What are your thoughts on buying used guitars?

[brazen ridge]

Have the same pedal my tone sounds different

[gritty garden]

Some people swear by it, some people don't. If you're buying used just make sure you do your research and don't get scammed/buy a fake.

[hasty pivot]

Hey guys, I’m a lefty and struggling hard to find any 7 strings I like. It’s very limited the options and the price points are all over the place.. am I crazy to just keep buying right handed and flipping the hardware?

[hollow surge]

i mean schecter is a good start

[hasty pivot]

The only thing is to get one with a whammy bar is a huge price hop from what I’ve found

[wind mauve]

whammy bars are for posers real men just detune and retune the strings really really fast

[gritty garden]

What about the Matt Heafy signature?

[wind mauve]

^^

can highly recommend. candle seal of approval

[hasty pivot]

I have been eyeing this up I hear amazing this about it! The shape is very classy

[gritty garden]

Was just thinking of that because I know he has lefty models. What about LTD, do they have any?

[toxic wharf]

Lies

Get a whammy bar and stick to 1 tuning like a pro + having a good excuse to buy another guitar

[wind mauve]

i don’t use a whammy bar i just have 7 of those tuning cranks taped together so when i needs to whammy i slap em on the tuning pegs and whammy it manually

[gritty garden]

Already have 8 don't have space for more 😂

[toxic wharf]

Good excuse to move to another place!!!!!

[gritty garden]

Then I can't afford new guitar

😂

[toxic wharf]

Got me there

You'd be surprised how many guitars can fit in a small place. To be fair I 'only' have 5, but you can have a standard somewhere and hang some on the wall

[gritty garden]

Yeah I have a 10 rack

[bronze orbit]

I wanna get this guitar

But I need money

[gritty garden]

Oceans Ate Alaska fan? Lol

[bronze orbit]

Yes

[toxic wharf]

I still want an abasi concepts 😩

[gritty garden]

Jibs has one so I recognise it instantly

[bronze orbit]

But I actually didn’t know they used it till I got interested in it

Metalbirb also has it

[gritty garden]

The Kaizen looks fun

[toxic wharf]

Yeah the music man

But doesnt look as ergonomical as the abasi concepts

[wind mauve]

it looks so good but it’s like $3k

imma settle for one o dem newfangled matt heafsters for now

[loud wyvern]

Do you think a 25.5” can hold GGCFAD? Or do i need like a 26.5” or 27.7”

I feel like a bari wouldn’t hold the lighter strings well but a tenor wouldn’t hold the low G well

[timid flicker]

oh my god

the whammy pedal is back in india and its not like 800$

😱

[bronze orbit]

I need to get a fret wrap for my guitars

Only guitar I primarily use is my Ibanez rg6000fm

My bassist actually has a 2nd one in a different color

[wind mauve]

fret wraps aren’t necessary, you can mute the strings yourself

they’re fine for practice but don’t let it become a crutch, i would say

[bronze orbit]

Only brought it up cause he has one in that picture

[gritty garden]

Get used to playing without one otherwise it'll be a crutch and you won't be able to play clean otherwise

[bronze orbit]

I don’t use one so I guess I’ll just not use it

You know what I should get?

Might ask for it for my birthday

[gritty garden]

They're handy for recording, but yeah. People get too used to using one and they can't play without one

[wind mauve]

as much as i think guitar accoutrements are cool

yeah

[loud wyvern]

I honestly don’t know if a wrap is a crutch for me. I can mute strings fine but i can’t get takes im happy with for recording without one

[brazen ridge]

How do I research if the seller is not scamming

[gritty garden]

Do serial number lookups etc.

Research what a fake looks like

[brazen ridge]

Oh ok thanks!

[hexed igloo]

well, they're nice for recording

a lot of people see fretwraps as the "fake being able to shred" thing

which yes, they can do

i've personally never used mine that way lmao

stays behind the nut 24/7

very handy for that

[hexed igloo]

yes

mark holcomb uses that tuning in reptile i believe, and all his 6 strings are 25.5"

also question for pickup guys here, what do people think of fishmans?

ive always been very anti-active pickups, but i hear SO much about fishmans and nearly every fucking manufacturer is putting them in their extended ranges now

so im wondering if its worth it to actually get a 7/8 with fishmans or if it's just better (and cheaper) to grab one with random passives and swap them out for a set like the silos or lundgrens

[loud wyvern]

Yeah i was thinking about reptile specifically. Would you use the same gauge for drop C or would you swap out strings and re setup when changing tunings?

[hexed igloo]

same gauge, but a 7 string version

you're essentially in drop g

so take your drop c gauge, find a 7 string set with the same first 6 gauges, and then don't use the 6th string in the set

or if you find that gauge, you could literally just buy a single 7th string to swap out your current 6th

you can definitely drop down to that with your current gauge for practice though

just expect it to be pretty loose and maybe not intonated great

doesn't matter if you're learning tho, i used to do it all the time before I had multiple guitars

[wind mauve]

the only fishmans i've used personally were matt heafy's in the matt heafy sig

they were beautiful and im still torn on buying a matt heafy sig or buying the pickups

andrew baena of carcosa also swears by the heafsters

[hexed igloo]

yeah thats not the vouch im looking for personally lmao

i hate carcosa guitar tones

[wind mauve]

well

damn

ok

[hexed igloo]

this is probably a very hot take for this server but im just not a deathcore guy

[wind mauve]

understandable honestly

[hexed igloo]

the only gothic metal fan in this whole server LMAO

i think the guys from unlucky morpheus use strandberg but idk if they kept the stock fishmans in theirs

[wind mauve]

well, if not from andrew, take it from me personally cause i used the heafy in standard tuning on a 5150 on its basic crunch setting

its beautiful

like the genuinely sounded leagues ahead of my own ibanez seven string and an ibanez guitar was what i wanted from the moment i started playing

[hexed igloo]

yeah ibanez are uh

not good! pickup wise

i absolutely love my prestige but the pickups are definitely something i dont care for

my prestige stays in standard 24/7, for jazz stuff

so it works there

[wind mauve]

i mean mine's not bad

just

now that i've played better

its got me a lil sadge

[hexed igloo]

but if i ever drop it to drop c# for versailles stuff they'll be out there instantly

[wind mauve]

problem is the heafy pickups are about the same price as the actual guitar, and i'd have to also get push-pull knobs to make full use of them

*the actual guitar being mine, not the heafy one

[hexed igloo]

yeah fair

i dont really have a budget issue this time around, my prestige was a deep sale at like £1000, my other ibanez was £500 on sale

this time im looking at either double that for an insane guitar, or another one around £1000-£1500 + a btb805

[wind mauve]

well, the matt heafy sig i was just talkin bout is around 1700 CAD for the seven string variant

(the pickups themselves being around the higher end of $300)

strandbergs generally go for $1500 CAD+

and kiesel customs for 7+ strings will generally start around $1.8k to $2k CAD - and keep in mind that the conversion rate of CAD to Pound Sterling is slanted in the British favour, so you're looking at cheaper prices in pounds; 1500 pounds is closer to 2k CAD

[hexed igloo]

oh yeah no fuck kiesel

me and jeff have polar opposite political views, don't feel comfortable buying from them

if i was gonna do any custom it'd be skerve

[wind mauve]

o-oh

was not aware any of them expressed political views

well like obviously they as people do but im not aware of the views expressed

[hexed igloo]

jeff is very conservative

and every so often feels the need to push his views onto the brand social media accounts

[wind mauve]

ah.

i see

[nimble jungle]

Anyone care to rate my rig?

[toxic wharf]

Great marketing! Oh wait...no it isnt.

[runic girder]

I’m considering getting an 8-string guitar! The models I’m currently looking at are:

Ibanez RGMS8
Ibanez RG8
Schecter Omen-8
Jackson X series Dinky Arch Top DKAF8 MS

Anyone who has any experience with these or other recommendations?

[wind mauve]

hell of a lot better than mine, 5/10 on the cable management, 7/10 overall

[graceful socket]

dont know if you´ve already got something, my personal recommendation would be going with the Solar A2.7C LH. It´s the one I went with when I wanted a 7 and am absolutely in love with it (besides there really is barely anything else out there(

[hasty pivot]

Damn maple neck and mahogany body! That is tight! I really like Olas stuff didn’t realize he made lefties

I hope Nik gets a big collab someday or does his own like that I feel like they’d sell well

[graceful socket]

Solar´s lefty selection is pretty small but that A2.7 is dope

I love it, most comfortable guitar I´ve ever played (without too much experience to be fair but still)

feels incredible, sounds amazing, especially for the price

[hasty pivot]

I play a BC rich warlock upside down honestly anything is better 😅

But it really looks comfortable and I think that’s the biggest reason I need a true lefty, it holds my mind regression back being so uncomfortable

[hasty pivot]

My progression back*

[graceful socket]

as said, big vouch. Very reasonably priced, incredibly light and nice to play. Neck dive is a bit much but that´s not too bad either

[hasty pivot]

Thank you!

[low cedar]

Anybody have any recommendations for an acoustic feels like an electric?

I'm looking at an Ibanez ALT20 rn and I think it's what I want, but if anybody has any suggestions I'd love some input

[gritty garden]

So bascially a Fender Acoustasonic

[bronze orbit]

I found another guitar that has the black aura finish but I still want the one oceans ate alaska has

Maybe good for a 2nd 6 string

[gritty garden]

https://www.fender.com/en-GB/acoustasonic-guitars/

[hardy hatch]

i think you should buy a Jackson. you can find some good ones used for about $100-$800 depending on your budget. i got mine on offer up for around $130.

[south sun]

I have a legator 8 string whose pickups need to be changed

And I was wondering what pickups should I get. I kinda want the Fishman Fluence Abasi sigs but what else is there

[south sun]

My main work horses

What do yall think?

[wispy flint]

gnarly 8 string

[south sun]

Thanks!

I’m planning on swapping the pickups to some Tosin Abasi Signatures

[wispy flint]

unfortunately im not as familiar with pick ups

im still pretty fresh to guitar

[lyric bobcat]

any recommendations for a 6 string guitar with a floating bridge?

[south sun]

Any Ibanez would do

You can take it into guitar center to get it set up for floating

Or you can go with a floyd rose

[storm fjord]

Im glad to say ive mastered the pinch harmonic

[lyric bobcat]

the only problem is that i have the king v js32 and i have 0 idea if it is possible to do the change because of the way the strings are

[toxic wharf]

Not any Ibanez but something with an original edge bridge or edge lo-pro

Tremolo bridges I would never cheap out on

[lyric bobcat]

what would you say would be the average price?

[toxic wharf]

Whatever the current price of prestige models are? 1400 to 1800 on average maybe

If you really want q floating bridge and not regret it just invest some extra dough in the end. I think the original edge bridges are better than any floyd rose system

[gritty garden]

I mean they'd have to remove the bridge and route it out for the floating trem. Not worth it really when you can just buy a guitar with one.

[lyric bobcat]

yea, thats the main reason why im trying to investigate whats a good option

too much things to do on the poor guitar

[gritty garden]

Killswitch on a Fender. Impressive

[toxic wharf]

I do love a good floating bridge tbh

[gritty garden]

Yeah just don't skimp out on it, you'll want to make sure it's got a decent trem/floyd system on it so it holds tuning well.

[lyric bobcat]

ok, i dont know much abt this floyd system that you guys talk abt, whats the difference between it and a usual trem?

[gritty garden]

Floyd is for more extreme bends/dives. Usually has a locking nut and you tune it from the bridge. Compared to a normal trem where the nut is normal and tune at the headstock

[lyric bobcat]

so it just stays more in tune than others?

[toxic wharf]

Depends really

[lyric bobcat]

when using the trem

[toxic wharf]

Floyd rose is a brand of a full floating system

[gritty garden]

A floyd allows you to lower the notes and also pitch them up, whereas a normal floating bridge you'll struggle to pitch up

[toxic wharf]

Other well known brands are Ibanez's systems. Most well known are the edge and lo-pro edge

Both generally better tuning stability than a regular floyd rose

[lyric bobcat]

oh so i imagine its way easier to do dives and stuff like that

[gritty garden]

Yeah, if you're talking dives it's more than likely a Floyd type system and not what you normally get on a Fender/PRS

[lyric bobcat]

okok

[gritty garden]

It's what Nita is using here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc9Ojq04P6s

[lyric bobcat]

does the Floyd system comes in any guitar or is it like a separate thing?

[gritty garden]

Depends on the model like any guitar really

[lyric bobcat]

ok

question, is it better to just buy the things and build the guitar or is it better to just buy the thing?

[gritty garden]

To install those bridges, you needs to cut a hole through the body for it to go through, then route out the back, and screw in the string tension system to counter the tension of the strings.

If you're new to floating bridges they're a pain as you can't just change tunings. If you go from Drop C to Drop B you have to adjust the spring tension on the back to match the reduced tension from the strings.

[lyric bobcat]

okok, i dont really do drops, i prefer to stick w standard lmao

but really thanks guys, now i know what to search for

[toxic wharf]

Yeah but honestly...once you do this several times its not that bad

Im not changing tunings every week or so on my prestige but its relatively 'simple' to do. Just a bit more time intensive because its like a fresh set up

[modest ravine]

is there really a point in using a guitar anymore 💀

[wind mauve]

i can only imagine what that must sound like

[modest ravine]

its bass drop g but on guitar so

hold on ill record it

[wind mauve]

i cant view that on mobile so it will have to wait

[south sun]

Can someone listen to my song and give me some feedback on it?

[wind mauve]

there’s also #1095992147968262144 for more in depth feedback but i can tell you if i like it i suppose

[wind mauve]

this sounds like my asshole after a taco bell buffet, keep it up

[toxic wharf]

geetar

[wet kestrel]

yamaha pacifica, squier affinity deluxe telecaster

[south sun]

Yeah it was a bad descision. The wiring is messed up. Anyways I want to get a loaded pick guard for it. I’m also throwing on a new bridge since the old one is completely stripped

[south sun]

My band mate and I have the same dream guitar and he was able to get one

[hollow surge]

so beautiful 🤤

i wish someday to get one

[bronze orbit]

I have that blue one and I’m not a fan of it

Cardboard guitar solo live at The Worcester Palladium 😂

The been dead reflections they’re guitarist couldn’t make it so they had backtracks but still wanted a 4 piece so they had a cardboard guitar

[bronze orbit]

Question I was examining the bands gear what is that thing on top the amp on the right

On top of the mark bass one

[gritty garden]

It's the amp.

https://www.mesaboogie.com/en-US/Amp/6.TT8/6-TT8

[bronze orbit]

Ah

I figured but I was thinking maybe it was a mixer or something

I’m wondering if what I have would be enough for a live setting

I use that fender on the top and plug my laptop into it to get my tones

[lyric bobcat]

what are some good amps? are fenders good?

[bronze orbit]

I think so

I use a fender twin reverb but I got a super good deal it

Usually $1,200 and I got it for $600

[granite fern]

Katana boss amps are exceptional, and pretty cheap

[gritty garden]

Depends what you want and style - each range/brand is aimed at a particular style

[bronze orbit]

What amp head gets tones like archetype gojira

I’m assuming katana’s must be good for modern metalcore / hardcore?

to be honest this set up I’m using with my laptop going through the twin reverb, works very well, but I’m just concerned on how it’s going to work in the live setting

[toxic wharf]

Depends. I wouldnt necessarily go with a Katana for a live setting especially if you want Gojira like tones

[bronze orbit]

Can’t you use the quad cortex or whatever to get all the nureal dsp tones you have

Holy fuck it’s $2,000 sheesh

[gritty garden]

Depends, could be a 5150, could be a Dual Rectifier. There's generally only a couple of amps that tend to do those sorts of tones.

[bronze orbit]

How does a quad cortex work? Could I get the tones from archetype Gojira on there and plug it into my amp?

because if I can, then that would probably be my ideal set up because then I just have to bring the cab

[gritty garden]

Quad Cortex doesn't have Neural Amp Sim intgration yet - but there's a load of Neural Presets as well as downloading Captures that people have done of 5150s etc.

[bronze orbit]

Ah

[gritty garden]

I think what Ryan from FFAK said the other day was most people in bigger live bands using a Quad Cortex, are using the Preset that Chris from TGI made - It uses a 5150 for the main amp, and uses the Cali IR from Get Good Drums

[bronze orbit]

Nice

Do those all come on the quad cortex or do you gotta like add them or something

[gritty garden]

So this tone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqk0Y4qd3pU

[bronze orbit]

Yeah that’s be sick I play mostly in drop a

[gritty garden]

If you go to page 105 in the manual it'll tell you all the "pre-installed" stuff https://downloads.neuraldsp.com/file/quad-cortex/Quad+Cortex+User+Manual+2_0_0.pdf

[bronze orbit]

We do like hardcore and sometimes death metal

The vocalist wants us to start playing live maybe in November

[gritty garden]

The Neural Capture section will be a mixture of Pre Amps, Power Amps, Pedals etc.

[bronze orbit]

Possibly October if we have the ep finished and if we can play live

Maybe I can ask my cousin for more help because he plays live

[gritty garden]

Yeah, there's multiple routing you can do, plus whether you're using actual cabs vs monitors and IRs etc.

Like if you don't do a lot of tap dancing during your set you could run both guitars through it, or both guitars and a bass. Or just one guitar and bass.

[bronze orbit]

I’m just trying to know what I’m doing cause it looks like there’s a lot that goes into a live setting

Yeah we only me as the guitarist for now

Guitar vocals bass drums

[gritty garden]

A lot of people use it for the midi switching stuff. But it does make for a pretty compact rig. Just if you're using a proper cab and not a FRFR you'll need some sort of power amp to go into

[bronze orbit]

Also, I understand now why you need in ear monitors when you’re on stage because when I was on stage playing cardboard guitar, I couldn’t hear shit

Like I was trying to hear the backing tracks so I could at least look like I was playing it 😂

[gritty garden]

Yeah unless you have a stage monitor.

I'm not too family with a live setting tbh

I just run my QC into the power amp section of my Katana through a 2x12 cab

[bronze orbit]

Fair enough

Probably should just go to more local shows

Cause it’s easier for me to look at the gear at a local show

Plus the bands will probably be more willing to talk about it versus if I asked like a national band

[gritty garden]

TGI's set up. Two QCs each for both guitarists and bassist (one main and one redundancy), plus midi controllers etc.

[bronze orbit]

Not a cheap rig 😂

If I was able to run archetype Gojira through my laptop to my amp with no problems live then that’d be the ideal thing

https://www.sweetwater.com/c625--Combo_Amp?highlight=65TwinRev&mrkgen=&mrkgbflag=&mrkgcat=&acctid=21700000001645388&dskeywordid=&adpos=largenumber&locationid=&targetid=&campaignid=&awsearchcpc=1&mrkgadid=1000000&mrkgcl=28&mrkgen=gdsa&mrkgbflag=0&mrkgcat=guitars&acctid=21700000001645388&dskeywordid=39700065446155843&lid=39700065446155843&ds_s_kwgid=58700007290620016&device=m&network=g&matchtype=&adpos=largenumber&locationid=1018279&creative=537361853697&targetid=aud-994727060285:dsa-1393421984762&campaignid=6730319005&awsearchcpc=1&&&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwISlBhD6ARIsAESAmp7pnvAybXWsWV43VGdgYeiB3IA0iUo-jqDiNzhevdayUlhS_FiM6xYaAk6qEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

This what I’m using rn for a amp

[grand idol]

Just put a TB-4 and a SH-4 in it and changed the string gauge to 10-52’s

[toxic wharf]

Honestly mate...if its your first show and you gonna have some more gigging invest into a good amp. Its never lost money and the complex modelling/midi will come later

Be prepared to spend a 1200 bucks on a decent amp but its not money wasted

[bronze orbit]

I’m planning for the future ye

[toxic wharf]

Anyone know a good affordable accessible 7-string?

[wind mauve]

ibanez gio series

mine was like $400 with tax you can prolly get em cheaper

Jackson also has a budget 7 & 8 series, the 8 stringer is $500 iirc, but idk what the actual model is called

[thick delta]

should i change my metronome tones from drums to clicks

changing would mess me up a bit now but not changing would mess me up when i get into writing and record over drum tracks

[gritty garden]

Just whatever, you get used to it very quickly

[toxic wharf]

Ok thnx for the advice

[wind mauve]

[lethal fractal]

Planning on getting this bass built soon.

If I do end up getting it I'm hoping to form a really neat tech-death band that I have been thinking about for a while.

[wind mauve]

i have never seen a headless bass

7 strings too? damn

[wispy flint]

out of curiosity, how come some guitars have no head?

does that mean it's just in a set tuning?

[wind mauve]

no, it’s a weight reduction usually. you can see the tuning pegs are on the body

such as here

[wispy flint]

ohhh

that's what those are

interesting

[toxic wharf]

Its ergonomical/more comfortable

[wispy flint]

right

[toxic wharf]

The headstock, especially when standing up will mean that the guitar tilts in a certain way which is not optimal for your wrist and finger position to the fretboard

Theres other ways to counter this, but having a headless guitar does it for you and it looks pretty cool to some as well

[lethal fractal]

I'd prefer to have the head on that guitar but It won't come with one for a 7 string, I really like how bass heads look there is an Ibanez that does have the headstock and I may buy one of them instead of getting that thing made still saving and deciding.

Not a great photo but this is the other option I'm thinking of

[brazen ridge]

Got the Mark Holcomb bridge pick up

[wind mauve]

personally i love the aesthetic of it

but also i lift and i have gains so i dont need a headstockless one

💪

[acoustic cobalt]

😍

i want to get a set of those so bad

but my current pickups are too good rn

[wind mauve]

i want to get new pickups

not sure what to get tho, i want fishmans but they'd cost as much as my guitar did if not more

also i have no idea how to install them

[brazen ridge]

Have yet to install them because I don’t know how so I will take them to the local shop

[acoustic cobalt]

i feel that

i have dimarzio fusion edges in my RGA and they're so good

[acoustic cobalt]

@fierce wyvern normally i use 11-54s since they're just thick enough to be what i need

[fierce wyvern]

i dont remember what my gauge is

i think 13s

[acoustic cobalt]

damn that's thick

[wind mauve]

my guitar teacher’s 7 has like a 78 gauge 7th string

it’s insane

[acoustic cobalt]

11-54 with locking tuners is just perfect to go to drop C and can go to AGCFAD

[acoustic cobalt]

bruh

that is insane

[fierce wyvern]

my guitar is tuned FBbFBbEbFBb and honestly im a fraid to put it back in standard

[acoustic cobalt]

😭

[wind mauve]

for reference my 7th is 58 gauge

[acoustic cobalt]

how

[wind mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-the-fuck-is-this-wth-gif-17571836

[acoustic cobalt]

does he think his 7 is a bass or smth dear lord

[fierce wyvern]

early monuments tuning for ya

but they use 8 strings so

missing a top Eb

i make do tho its fine

[brazen ridge]

Mine is 64

[acoustic cobalt]

i didn't know that monuments tuned to that

wild

[fierce wyvern]

on Gnosis

[wind mauve]

no but he has to change the tuning on it often cause he works in music production for like multimedia

[acoustic cobalt]

ah

[wind mauve]

but also he likes drop tuning it when he isn’t using it to make rock for the only interesting part of a documentary or whatever

[fierce wyvern]

Admit Defeat, Degenerate, The Uncollective, Blue Sky Thinking

the rest of the songs is tuned AbFBbEbFBbEb

which is what tesseract used on One

[wind mauve]

i just picked the heaviest strings my local guitar shop had

which were the Ernie nuts power slinky

[brazen ridge]

Haha I ordered them from Sheet Happens

[wind mauve]

i don’t change my strings regularly enough to order them online

😭

[brazen ridge]

What?

I am confused

[wind mauve]

what?

I’m lazy and I don’t need heavy duty strings anyways

[brazen ridge]

Oh ok

[wind mauve]

so im not ordering them online for more expensive prices

when i could pop down to long & mcquade any day of the week and spend $13 on some strings once every like 6 months or more

[brazen ridge]

Ah well my local guitar shop sells them same ones for 20 instead of 15

[wind mauve]

ok, what’s the shipping cost tho

[brazen ridge]

Free I think

[wind mauve]

and how long do they take to ship

bruh

[acoustic cobalt]

💀

[wind mauve]

why is shipping never free in Canada

hate it here sometimes

like how Shibori Threads, an American based company, has cheaper shipping to fucking Europe than Canada

betcha it’s free shipping in the US tho

[sharp raft]

My babies

[lethal fractal]

Nice

[lyric bobcat]

yo whatsupp, today i got a jackson js32 w a floyd rose but when i play it for a while it goes way out of tune, like 2 steps down, is this normal or am i doing something wrong?}

im using standard tuning and i have the tuning locks in

[acoustic cobalt]

now, i'm not a floyd rose expert and i can't tell you what's happening, but that's def not normal 😭

[lyric bobcat]

yea, its werid af

[acoustic cobalt]

i try to stay away from guitars with trems for reasons like that lol

too many moving parts for me

[lyric bobcat]

same, im pretty new to guitars so its something new to learn

[sharp raft]

Should def mot be happening, even on a $400 guitar.

Did you have it set up?

[lyric bobcat]

wdym set it up?

[sharp raft]

Have you ever had a guitar tech set it up and intonation it for you?

Adjust action, etc.

[lyric bobcat]

nope, just got it yesterday

nvm not yesterday

today

[sharp raft]

I would definitely have it get a proper set up. Take it to a guitar store and they will set it up for whatever turning you want and get it intonated right.

Should be good to go after that. Just don't change your string guages after lol

Floyd's take a little knowledge to work with and are a pain to intonate the first time. It going so badly out of tune tells me something is very wrong.

[lyric bobcat]

ok, maybe its because there has been no maintenance i guess

today i have sum guitar classes so i might just take it in

[sharp raft]

Did you change the strings or anything?

[lyric bobcat]

nope

[sharp raft]

Hmmm

[lyric bobcat]

just got playing like 2/3 hrs and noted it

im playin w the strings that came w the guitar

[sharp raft]

Hard to say over the internet. A guitar tech should be able to figure it out tho.

[lyric bobcat]

they prob like 9-40

or smth like that

[sharp raft]

Usually the setup will be ok out of the box, but it going out by 2 steps is quite a bit.

[lyric bobcat]

a string just fokin broke

[sharp raft]

Refer to my previous advice lol.

[lyric bobcat]

yea

in a bit im taking it to someone that can help me

[lyric bobcat]

nvm thw guy no longer works there lol

[gritty garden]

Always thought about the Ibanez on the left. Never got one. At this point I'm low on space to get anymore 🤣 (currently have 9)

[sharp raft]

It's a great guitar. I was lucky enough to get it on sale for 1300 new. AlI bought 2 of the 3 to replace 2 other guitars I had for 15 years.

Wrote my first 2 new metal songs in almost a decade on it so I have been sure to put it to work!

[toxic wharf]

Bro...whats this guitar...if you just got it today.

Out of all my guitars the one with the trem system stays in tune the best.

[lyric bobcat]

i think its quite old and havent got any maintenance in a lot of time

because the thing was quite dusty and the fretboard is very dehidrated

good thing is that i got a guy that can help me but i need to wait till monday 💀

[wind mauve]

enjoy!

[hasty pivot]

Good morning peeps! What’s your favourite pickups in 2023? And why? I’m looking to swap mine out

[bronze orbit]

Riffs

[ebon relic]

stock pickups

but I use a Seymour-Duncan as the bridge pickup of my ESP and it's served me pretty well

idk exactly which model it is tho

[wind mauve]

still debating whether i buy new pickups or just a new guitar

the pickups i'd want would probably be the same price if not more than the guitar was so like

[sharp raft]

I would not generally suggest going to pickups as your first choice of upgrade. I say this as someone who has purchased "boutique" pickups like Lundgren Black Heavens before.

If a set of pickups costs as much as your guitar, I would likely look at upgrading the guitar first lol.

With guitars I would day feel is most important. Pickups mostly are a consideration in terms of humbuckers vs single coils. While there are differences between humbuckers, you can get a good metal tone out of just about any set if you know how to set up your amp and pedals.

What guitar do you have currently?

[wind mauve]

currently rocking the ibanez gio 7

seeing as it's kind of the "budget" 7 string i figure upgrades in general would be good, so i've been looking at new guitars and pickups

mostly interested in the matt heafy origins 7 and the new solar a1.7 29", which are surprisingly similarly priced, and i have played the heafy one myself so i know i like it (which is also why i want the pickups it has for my guitar)

[sharp raft]

I would set aside the pickup elements. Though if a guitar you want had what you want, all the better!

I think things like the bridge, tuners, nut, and neck shape are the main things to focus on.

Both of the ones you named are massive jumps in quality over a gio 7 so you would see a noticeable difference for sure.

[wind mauve]

also a massive jump in price 😅

[sharp raft]

Absolutely, but there are plenty of cheaper options too.

Also could go used!

I got my KM7 Hybrid for 800 used. Absolutely killer instrument.

[wind mauve]

idk if i can settle for cheaper man that heafster guitar was beautiful

and i dunno where i would look for used instruments

[sharp raft]

Reverb.com in the US. Guitar center/musicians friend as well

https://reverb.com/p/epiphone-matt-heafy-les-paul-custom-origins-7-string?hfid=70807881&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=20222084049&utm_content=campaignid=20222084049_adgroupid=147590584737_productpartitionid=2146701820237=merchantid=771880732_productid=70807881_keyword=_device=m_adposition=_matchtype=_creative=660500446716&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx7Dy_eWCgAMVi-zICh2PmgHaEAQYASABEgKgC_D_BwE

[wind mauve]

im canadian

[sharp raft]

Lol, I am pretty sure they will still ship to Canada. I think k they service North America as a whole

[wind mauve]

yeah it displays price in CAD

still $1200

and yknow

[sharp raft]

For sure lol

I didn't adjust for us to cad so we were speaking different price language sadly

[wind mauve]

[sharp raft]

Even so, there are lots of cheaper instruments that are high quality.

Set a budget and then just be patient and try to catch a great deal. Especially in the used market, you can get some great deals

Shipping can definitely be brutal.

You have to watch out for it buying used as it allows some sellers to seem like it's a great deal and then they rip you off on shipping

[wind mauve]

i mean, to buy the guitar new is $1700, so for these prices i'll just save up and get it new lol

and then the solar one i mentioned is $1200+shipping

[sharp raft]

It can be a valid choice if you are married to a particular one and there aren't a lot of options.

One of the nice things about loving schecters is that they tend to have deeper discounts on used because they don't have the name power of like Fender and Gibson and their sub brands.

Reverb also has new. I bought my Ibanez 5121 new on there on a random sale for like 400 off normal price.

[wind mauve]

the other benefit is like three nearby long & mcquades have the heafy so i can just walk in and buy it and walk out with it

[sharp raft]

For sure.

Probably could also get them to set it up for you too

[wind mauve]

ye, they offer a free setup w/ string changes & electronics battery replacements

just the one tho

[bronze orbit]

My guitar has apparently been though hell

Played my bassists spare guitar same guitar I use and it sounded so much better because it was brand new

[wind mauve]

have you... changed the strings?

[sharp raft]

Also might be time for another set up. Time and humidity can fo some damage lol

[wind mauve]

i should look at getting mine re set up

lil guy's had to stomach canadian weather for a year

[bronze orbit]

Yes

Many times

I think it’s probably some sort of damage

I’ve had it since 2018 and I’ve used it mainly

[toxic wharf]

Honestly wouldnt put prime pick ups in a gio

[wind mauve]

ye that's what i was thinking

[hexed igloo]

its worth it for sure though

the biggest gap you'll ever see is the gap between 750ish and over 1k

around 1k is when you start to get some really good spec for the money

mainly schecter

SS frets, stainless floyd roses, wenge necks, fanned frets, sometimes good pickups

the nicest guitars ive played are all pretty expensive, stuff like e-ii, mayones and music man models

but honestly? i'd only go for those expensive brands if you're doing music seriously, or if you can find them used

[wind mauve]

i mean for me "expensive brand" is like abasi concepts or ernie ball music man

or strandberg for their higher end models

i'm fine with 1.7k for the heafy, cause it plays well from my experience and i want it, and i am going to use it, but i couldn't justify $3k instruments at this stage

[hasty pivot]

You guys ready to see my axe?

I got when I was 15 and hardcore into Pantera and Slayer and all those bands lol 😬

[wind mauve]

lets see this

[toxic wharf]

Schecter is alright but prefer Ibby for the price of most 'midrange' guitars

[toxic wharf]

Yeah after around 1500 its gonna become diminishing returns

[waxen wadi]

anyone know anything about a Montana MT-105-AF

[sharp raft]

Honestly the diminishing returns really kick on after 1k. Anything over 2k you are paying for things like it being handmade, signed, or something else that does not really make it a better instrument

That us fine, but it is worth keeping in mind

My Ibanez 5121 which retails for 1800 is not really better than my LTD EC-1000 Gold Andromeda which is apparently going for 1500 new. And the the EC 1000s that go for a bit cheaper (like 1100) are just as nice for the most part.

If you deal hunt and are fine with used, you can get amazing instruments around 1k, though it may require patience.

[ionic skiff]

has anyone here ever tried the Ibanez RGMS8? once ive got the money im considering getting one and i just wanna make sure its a good investment

[toxic wharf]

Guess it depends. If you want good pick ups you easily get closer to 1500 and if you want a good floating bridge as well. I think some stuff is a bit bells and whistles, but anywhere between 1000 and about 2000 tends to be a good price for most brands. Ironicaloy enough I think ESP nowadays has some of the most overpriced guitars after the reorganization of their brands. Before you could pick up new LTD EC-1000 for 800-1000 euros with the same specs you get nowadays. Decent guitar for a fair price back than but I dont think its worth the 1200-1500 they go for now. Theres way better stuff for that price

[gritty garden]

Brexit really fucked the UK up too with that. You can add up to roughly £500 to ESPs now. I bought mine for £1819... the same guitar is now £2,399

[toxic wharf]

Dang...its an LTD or American ESP?

[gritty garden]

ESP E-II so from Japan

[toxic wharf]

10 years ago I bought my LTD 1000 deluxe for 800

[toxic wharf]

Ah yeah, 1800 is a very good price for Japanese guitars though

[severe bluff]

just broke a string and i got a floyd rose bridge :(

was hoping i could make them last until my a day or 2 before my performance but i guess i gotta change them now

[olive dagger]

It happened again

What's a 12th guitar that I dont need anyway?

[low cedar]

Does anybody know how I could fix this? I don't want to spend the money on it for a repair as I got it for free from a family member and it's just cheaply made so it wouldn't be worth it. But if there's anything I can do at home by myself, that would be good.

I'm kinda expecting to trash it at this point but if there's anything, lmk

[hasty pivot]

😬😬😬

She’s strung left handed to top it off 💀

[wind mauve]

I accept it

[hasty pivot]

Yayyy!

[toxic wharf]

Here's an Enter Sandman tab for beginners:

e|--------------------------------------------------
B|--------------------------------------------------
G|--------------0-----------------------------------
D|--------------------------------------------------
A|-------------------1--0---------------------------
E|-----0---12------------------12----0-------------

[olive dagger]

Picked this up today

[gritty garden]

Satire?

[wind mauve]

without testing i'm gonna guess this is weezer?

[wind mauve]

hot

naw its not even anything nvm lmao

[brazen ridge]

What is a good guitar to have 6-8 string under 450?

[toxic wharf]

If you really want a good guitar for that price you are not gonna find it im afraid

[bronze orbit]

I use a Ibanez rg600fm I think it’s pretty good

[brazen ridge]

I will look at it

[bronze orbit]

It’s like $350

[brazen ridge]

And what are your thoughts on the Boss Katana 100 watt if you have used it

[bronze orbit]

I haven’t

[brazen ridge]

That Ibanez looks sweet!!

[wet kestrel]

look for used guitars, what do you want one for?

[wet kestrel]

it's decent, phrost can tell some things, i think it's pretty good for practicing, otherwise phrost recommended smth about the katana, i don't remember what specifically so you could ask him

[brazen ridge]

I would want to sell my Ibanez it isn’t that great as I expected

@gritty garden sorry for the late but what are your thoughts on the Boss Katana100

[gritty garden]

It's a decent practice amp. If you're looking at one then defo go for one of the 100W models over the 50 just because it has more connectivity, plus 8 savable presets instead of four.

I got the head because it's small enough to take out into the garden or something as it has a small inbuilt speaker. Mine is now redundant as a Pre-Amp as I use a Quad Cortex so I only use the power amp section of it now.

The best bang for your buck though if you have a PC is still the digital route. An audio interface and a Neural DSP Amp Sim will provide a better tone for half the price.

[toxic wharf]

What type of Ibanez? Its questionable whether any other new guitar below 450 is gonna be a significant improvement to be fair. For that price, what you generally get are: cheap pick ups, more often than not pretty shoddy fretwork, cheap nut and bridge. If you are just looking for a practice guitar in the bedroom thats all still useable, but for recording, gigging or rehearsing with a band I would try to see if I could spend a bit more for a new guitar or buy a good second hand one.

[wind mauve]

my local guitar shop has what i'm fairly sure is a 200W Katana for about $550 CAD, was thinking of getting it to replace my spider v30, would you recommend?

[gritty garden]

They don't do 200W Katanas

[wind mauve]

hmmm

[gritty garden]

If it's local just go try it out and see if you like the tones. I prefer the tones in it over my Blackstar: ID30TVP (which is suppoest to emulate a tube amp). I find the Blackstar has some weird frequencies I really don't like.

[wind mauve]

maybe it was 150? it was definitely more than 100

[gritty garden]

100W is the max they do.

[wind mauve]

cause the 100W model was closer to $250 and a lot smaller

uhhh

hmm

maybe it was just a bigger model then idk

[gritty garden]

It might have been a 100W 2x12

Which is just the 100W model with 2 12" speakers instead of a single 12" speaker

A lot of people get it because you can modify the signal chain in it to one of the below options, and it has a lot of the Boss Pedals in it - think of it like a BOSS ME-80, but with a cab.

[wind mauve]

i see

[wet kestrel]

idk what ibanez you had and what style do you want to play? any specific bands? do you want a 6, 7, or 8 string the most?

[wind mauve]

well i'll head down to the shop to try it out maybe tomorrow

because i'm getting a big retro pay adjustment so if i like it i could prolly buy it right then and there

[gritty garden]

I just use it for the power amp now, so the thing that powers the cabinet.

E.g. Master Volume

🤣

[wind mauve]

haha fair enough

i just want something that has a better tone than the spider

like it's fine enough as a practice amp but with a seven string and drop tuning it sounds really muddy

and i also just can't get the kind of tone i want out of it

brown...

[gritty garden]

I mean you won't get close to a 5150 sound like that's used for most modern metalcore. But you might be happy with what you get.

[toxic wharf]

Looks pretty neat

I mean, you can also get a modern metalcore sound with a bogner ubershall type of tone or a mesa triple rectumfrier

But nowadays I wouldnt think about buying a full amp tbh

Either modelling or sims

[wind mauve]

well, would i be able to get a model/sim for a 5150?

[gritty garden]

I mean... good example of an Amp Sim being used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmmh_A3zVcs

[toxic wharf]

Yeah or the Nolly archetype has a 5150 style I believe

[wind mauve]

i did like archetype gojira when i used the trial, i was able to make a really trivium sounding rhythm tone

[toxic wharf]

The Gojira one is pretty versatile

[gritty garden]

Most bands with a QC are using Chris's preset anyway according to Ryan from FFAK

With the Cabsim being the GGD Cali IR

[wind mauve]

hmmm

that's a lot of stuff that i have no idea about

😅

[gritty garden]

Quad Cortex = Amp Modeller the size of a small pedalboard

Can be used to record/capture how different amps, cabs and some pedals sound. So instead of taking your amp heads, and massive speaker cabinet you could in theory take that.

I'm a boomer so was going to buy a proper analogue amp head... but for the same price I could get that, and have several amps at my disposal.

[wind mauve]

ohhh that’s what you meant by QC

i know what the quad cortex is but it’s still early in the morning and my head is fuzzy

but yeah idk exactly what tone I want i just know what I don’t want

[brazen ridge]

Blue metal Chemleon Gio

Thanks for the help guys!

[acoustic cobalt]

😍

[wind mauve]

for $8000 that thing should fucking sweep pick itself god DAMN

that is genuinely the most expensive guitar I’ve ever seen

[acoustic cobalt]

I’ve seen more expensive ones in Nashville 😭

Like 20k

[wind mauve]

i dont even wanna know

especially if it's nashville

20k acoustic guitar signed by johnny cash himself and it's just like some starter yamaha or smth 😭

[acoustic cobalt]

Yeah but he didn’t see it so does it really count 💀

[wind mauve]

unreal

intangible even

unscrutable some might say

[gritty garden]

The Game Of Thrones Fenders were like $20,000

[wind mauve]

like

they were used for the soundtrack or they were played on the show?

oh

wait

[gritty garden]

They were made as a custom shop model to celebrate the show

[wind mauve]

they were special editions made for- yeah

i didnt read the fenders part at first so i was like huh

[gritty garden]

https://www.fmicassets.com/Damroot/Zoom/10001/9216080061_gtr_frt_001_rr.png

[wind mauve]

i wonder if they auctioned the starbucks coffee cup that was left on set during filming that no one bothered to edit out by the time it aired

[wind mauve]

actually that is kinda sick

[gritty garden]

https://www.fmicassets.com/Damroot/Zoom/10001/9216080060_gtr_frt_001_rr.png

https://www.fmicassets.com/Damroot/Zoom/10001/9216080062_gtr_frt_001_rr.png

[wind mauve]

oooh ok

[gritty garden]

I think they were like $25K, $30K, and $35K

[wind mauve]

this one i would totally play if i had

tbh its been so long since season 8 left that terrible final impression that i've just stopped caring about GoT altogether

i don't even remember half the house symbols i just know targaeryans had the dragon

[acoustic cobalt]

I’d play that strat

That’s wicked

[south sun]

There are scratches on the neck

🙁

From the stand

It doesn’t have a cap so sometimes it scratches the neck when I put it down

[gritty garden]

Ooof, the stand should have padding/rubber on it to protect it from happening

[south sun]

It’s also so prominent, but no one’s looking at the neck anyways

It’s that little bit

That’s sticking out

[gritty garden]

Oh yeah, don't like those. Always prefered Hercules stands.

[south sun]

I use a boat now

They are so much better

One of these things

I put a motion activated light under it so every time I go to pick up a guitar the stand lights ups

[gritty garden]

Yeah good touch. I have Hue Play Bars under my stand and behind my amp.

[south sun]

That reminds me, on my orange am I wedged a light up speaker between it and the wall and on the speaker I put a mini millennium falcon with a clear base, so whenever I turned the speaker on, the ship glowed

Actually I’m curious

[south sun]

What guitars do you play Phrost?

[gritty garden]

These #🎸-old-musician-talk message

Plus got a Kiesel since.

[south sun]

Beautiful collection man!

[willow plaza]

Hey guys, Been watching Nik for a while, but only just joined his discord.

A good 8 or so years ago i had all of my shit stolen out of a van while i was at a gig.

Several years later i'm soon going to be in the position to purchase gear that I'll be able to play venues with.

The problem i have is i'm entirely out of touch with regards to heads/cabs.

Does anyone have any reccomendations for a pairing that will be powerful enough to gig with (I've looked at a 4x12 5150 cab for example)?

Looking at spending around £1000 on the head+cab. Bonus points if the head comes with a footswitch?

[willow plaza]

https://www.thomann.de/gb/evh_5150_iconic_80w_top_bk.htm
https://www.thomann.de/gb/evh_5150_iconic_series_412_cab_iv.htm
Here is what i'm considering 🙂

[wet kestrel]

aww man that's a bummer

you sure you want an amp head and not a profiler?

like a kemper, axe fx, or quad cortex even? it's basically a mini computer where you plug your guitar and can choose out of many different amps

[willow plaza]

I'm hoping to start gigging again, so was thinking amp/head?

I know absolutely zero about profilers

[sharp raft]

Hell, a tonex with a FRFR cab is good shit. Just gotta get your effects pedals as well

[willow plaza]

FRFR cabs are active right? Those are the ones you plug in?

I've just looked up a tonex. They look incredible for the money to be fair

[wet kestrel]

profilers are better i'd say

for gigs

what do you usually play?

[willow plaza]

As is genre?

[wet kestrel]

maybe you could get a cheaper one, my friend uses hx stomp and his rig is quite minimalist, it can work greatly no matter if you're using IEMs or not

[willow plaza]

Almost exclusively metalcore

[wet kestrel]

oh okay

yeah i'd say a profiler or smth like that would be better

[willow plaza]

I'm really liking the look for the Tonex to be fair

[wet kestrel]

https://youtu.be/5CBwW7jHq7Q

[willow plaza]

I'd just need to start looking into pedals. I used to use multi effects pedals (Not good ones either, relied on the amp and footswitch a lot)

[wet kestrel]

ooo i've heard that it's very good and the price is great

[willow plaza]

The price is incredible

[wet kestrel]

and it has the effects you need

also you can always run pedals before and after the profiler too

https://youtu.be/3yejYLQWmAg

[willow plaza]

That would be the research i need to do i guess. But i do like that you can like... load 3 amp presets at home before a gig. And then just take this little box with you

[wet kestrel]

yes exactly

[willow plaza]

Would obviously need to take my FRFR cab, but still

[wet kestrel]

yep

some venues have their own sound systems where you can connect so even a cab is not super necessary but is still a great thing to get

[willow plaza]

I think that answers my questions to be honest. You guys have been awesome help honestly.

[wet kestrel]

if you decide for a profiler i could try and hook you up with someone who knows about building rigs, i really like andrew's it's very minimalist

aww i'm glad we could help

[willow plaza]

Andrew's would probably be the way to go

I've got 3 kids. So the less tone nobs they can fuck with t he better

[wet kestrel]

hahaha exactly

[willow plaza]

I'm giga excited to Get a guitar back on my lap honestly

[wet kestrel]

i hope you can do it asap

getting gear stolen is truly disgusting

[willow plaza]

My missus is coming into some inheritance. And is giving me some to get everything which is nice af

Yeah... Literally worst experience of my life so far, honestly.

It wasn't like expensive stuff. I was your typical 21 year old playing in dive bars every other weekend metal guitarist. But it was MY shit. So gutting.

But, i never had what i would class as an 'Expensive' Guitar.

[wet kestrel]

yeah, it's still very frustrating

[wet kestrel]

same really

[willow plaza]

https://www.jacksonguitars.com/en-GB/guitars/pro-series/pro-series-monarkh-sc-lh/2916903503.html
This is 100% what i'll be getting

[wet kestrel]

i've been playing for 10 years and the most expensive one i have is the gretsch supersonic baritone which goes for around 500-600, got it used for 450

[willow plaza]

That's a lot of guitar for not a lot of money though

[wet kestrel]

looks sick, if you want more lefty options you can also look at schecter

[willow plaza]

I had a Schecter omen 7. That was one of the guitars that got stolen

And like, it FELT okay to play, i just couldn't get on with it very well

[wet kestrel]

i like this kind of stuff, if it works it works, having a cheap ibanez never stopped me from creating. I wrote half of my band's album with it before i got an upgrade

[willow plaza]

Back when i thought Drop G made me heavy af

[wet kestrel]

oh i see, maybe it was that because of it being omen

but also could be the neck

[wet kestrel]

those were the days

my band plays metalcore-ish pop rock so we chose Bb as our tuning, ended up moving down to drop F

[willow plaza]

DAMN SON

That escalated quickly

I don't need a 7 string. I'm more than happy in drop C-A

[wet kestrel]

yep

but also you don't really need a 7 to go low, we're playing 6 strings

[willow plaza]

I was young and naive back then

Had a very "But this goes up to 11" mentality back then

[wet kestrel]

it took me too long to figure out how to tune my 7

[willow plaza]

Bro don't

When i first got my 7 string. I tuned it to drop C (I know...) And just tuned the extra string to C aswell

metal af

[wet kestrel]

hahaha

i did that with Bb

[willow plaza]

oooh a question i've never needed to ask because i've never had one

That Monarkh has Active pickups. Which is obviously 9v battery stuck in it's butt

When i'm not playing, do i take the battery out?

[wet kestrel]

nope

just make sure guitar isnt connected

it doesn't do anything bad, just drains it faster

[willow plaza]

Alright awesome, ty

Hoping i can get it all bought in the very near future. I know guitar is somewhat like riding a bike. You don't forget.

But unfortunately, my fingertips are soft and not ready for the pounding they're gonna take

[wet kestrel]

maybe it will be fine

good luck with starting it out again, i'm glad the creativity won in the end

[willow plaza]

I love the optimism. But it'll suck. It's okay haha

Yeah me too

Thank you so much for your help. Really appreciate it!

[wet kestrel]

you're welcome! no one deserves such things happening to them

[willow plaza]

Such is life!

[wind mauve]

not to interrupt or anything but i just bought the archetype abasi and i'm trying to get a good lead preset made cause i don't want to rely on the presets, how does this sound?

also the riff is actual dogwater i know but bear with me

[willow plaza]

That tone is dope

[wet kestrel]

yep sadly, but now you can get back into it

[wind mauve]

i did use the toby morelli preset as a starting point

the problem i find, around the 40 second mark, that's my 7th string

and it sounds really shitty

so i need to figure out how to make that sound not like a tin can, but also keep the rest of the strings sounding clean

[willow plaza]

Someone with some more knowledge is probably required to help you on that front. But i see what you mean

[wind mauve]

yeah

its super tinny

[gritty garden]

Yeah like Gaffy said, just make sure you unplug the cable. Same as when you put a 9v in a pedal. Putting a cable in completes the circuit and will drain the battery.

[wind mauve]

ok fixed the issue, i just needed to up the bass on the fx pedals

now i have a silky lead tone and no lead guitar skills

[willow plaza]

Story of my life

[wind mauve]

one day

[bronze orbit]

For me, I would just need one tone for the whole set

Because we just play Hardcore death core slam stuff

I already have a pretty good fender amp that cost $1200 I just need a head probably

[wind mauve]

whats hardcore deathcore slam without a silky smooth shredding lead

[bronze orbit]

Well, we only have me as a guitar so

The ideal situation would be to just use archetype gojira into my amp like I do in practice

We basically do slammy hard-core

[wind mauve]

alright check out my perfectly normal guitar tone

nothing weird about it

[misty canyon]

does anyone wanna start a project band?

[wind mauve]

i'd say yes if i thought i was good enough to be in a band

i could be like a groupie or smth tho

[graceful socket]

lmao feel that

[verbal fossil]

to be fair i'd love to cuz i've always been searching for vocals to put on my instrumentals but idk if i feel like joining a band online and all the stuff that creates around it

I play guitar but i program bass and drums

[wind mauve]

i play guitar and i can't program bass or drums for shit

or write my own parts

i can play written stuff decently well with some practice tho so uh

[verbal fossil]

this is the last track i made to give you an idea of what i make it's more hardcore than what i usually make tho and i mixed it myself too

also i might try quad track the guitars to see what i can do with it

and this is more of what i usually make

[wind mauve]

damn

that shits good

[verbal fossil]

and i'm solo on this

[wind mauve]

oh also im a mega nerd and i'd want to make songs based on video games or anime or smth so if i was in a band and they asked me to write smth

you better believe we gettin nerdy

[verbal fossil]

i'm learning screaming and i have lyrics and toplines for the 1st one i sent

but i have to wait to get back from vacations to start recording and not sound like shit

and the 2nd one i've already played it live at my music school lmao

[wind mauve]

nice!

[verbal fossil]

i mean the track is pretty easy so that's why i chose that one to play

and the other one didn't exist at that time

it would have been funny to play that disgustingly heavy bullshit at my music school where the heaviest thing you can get is basically AC/DC

or scorpions

so this is what i used for both of the track with archetype petrucci for the tone

[wind mauve]

nice!

i currently use archetype abasi with an ibanez gio 7

[verbal fossil]

my 1st guitar was an ibanez GIO and i just can't play it anymore it's destroying my fingers

the sharp edges on the frets

also this is all my guitars in the order i got them :
Ibanez GRG170
Ibanez RGAT62
Ibanez RG7420Z
ESP LTD JL-600 Jeff Ling signature
Schecter Demon 7 White
Solar S1.7APP Poplar Purple Burst

[wet kestrel]

that's a hot guitar

and yeah i'm already in too many projects

even had to leave the big 6

[verbal fossil]

and it sounds and play amazing too

[wet kestrel]

can imagine

i know solars have some qc issues

[verbal fossil]

qc?

[wind mauve]

quality control

i assume

[wet kestrel]

correct

[verbal fossil]

oh yea i can see that

i've noticed some things on the fretboard but it's not bothering in any means tho neither sound wise nor feeling wise

it's very minor tbh

[wet kestrel]

yeah scratches or other imperfections

if it doesn't affect playing then it's fine

[verbal fossil]

yea it's like max 2-3mm

[wet kestrel]

hopefully not deep

[verbal fossil]

This is the only issues i have with the guitar

[summer swan]

Here’s my Stratocaster I call it the green bastard

[wind mauve]

where's the green

[modest ravine]

on the clover sticker on the headstock

[wind mauve]

good enough

7/10

not enough greem

[summer swan]

It’s sea foam green

Here’s my Ibanez

[vestal badger]

Now that’s a green bastard

[summer swan]

Yeah

You could call it that

I just call it the monster because of its sound

[vestal badger]

Fair enough

[summer swan]

It sounds awesome though

It is really old

[wind mauve]

its definitely teal

[wind mauve]

this is green tho

8/10 greem

[vestal badger]

Old stuff is great

I’m not super into guitars or basses but I found this old mosrite ventures bass at a music store and it sounded amazing

I would’ve taken it home if I had two thousand dollars but I’m broke

[vestal badger]

Extended range trio

No I haven’t cut the ends of the strings on that RG8 yet

[lethal fractal]

I almost got the RG8 but went with a Schechter omen 8 was a hard choice

I like the finish on the bass a lot

[vestal badger]

I wish it looked like that in real life

Idk what my camera did but it looks better

RG8 was an impulse buy cause it was used at guitar center right before I did a song with an eight string

[sinful nacelle]

just dropping by to say something cursed: I apparently learned how to do a pinch harmonic before I learned how to do barre chords properly

[vestal badger]

I also did that lmao

[balmy vortex]

isnt that 7 string majesty 25.5" tho?

[wet kestrel]

but it's still considered extended range since it has 7 strings

[sharp raft]

Zakk Wylde sends his regards

[inner mauve]

bro im losing motivation to pick up the guitar or even do vocals

idk if its cuz im too lazy to walk to get my guitar or im just lazy af in general

[wind mauve]

think of all the chicks you could pick up by shredding on stage

[inner mauve]

doesnt work with the one chick im thinking of

[wind mauve]

think of more chicks

but fr tho

if you're losing motivation, that means you need to keep working at it until you find that motivation

can't wait for it to come back to you, you just gotta keep pushing ahead

if nothing else, pick one singular technique and practice it every day until you're sick of it and would rather practice literally anything else

[inner mauve]

i might have to do some easy stuff then

Linkin Park WOOHOO

[open steppe]

Hey, what are your guys' thoughts on learning guitar on a 7 string? (I've also got smallish hands) I found a killer deal on an Ibanez RG7421, and I do listen to a lot of 7 string bands (Trivium, Suicide Silence).

[inner mauve]

do it bruther

i got a 7 string and i got it to learn Lorna Shore

[wind mauve]

i got a seven string last summer and never looked back

[vestal badger]

Hell yeah

[wind mauve]

it dont matter so long as you're learning

what's "easy" might only be that way once you've mastered it

[vestal badger]

I literally only use a six if I need to play chords after I got extended range guitars

[vestal badger]

This

I used to not be able to play smoke on the water with power chords

[open steppe]

Aha nice. Yeah I might go with it. I'll just need to work on lots of finger stretching exercises lol

[vestal badger]

Nice thing about seven strings is that you can play most modern metal on them as long as you have high enough gauge strings

[wind mauve]

me trying to play eight string carcosa songs on a dropped 7

[vestal badger]

Seven strings only became a problem for me when I discovered animals as leaders

Then I got an eight and now I still can’t play mindspun but it’s not for a lack of strings anymore

Oh hey does anyone know where to get good sweeping shapes that use eight strings preferably in drop e

Too lazy to find songs that use those myself

And not good enough at guitar to make them

[vestal badger]

Nevermind I took that thing from nephele and extended it

[acoustic cobalt]

best way to regain motivation

learn an easy song that you’ll be able to play all the way through

and happiness 📈📈📈

[orchid mesa]

Hi everyone 🌸
Trying my luck here! I (vocalist) along with a friend (drummer) wish to put up a band with pro ambitions. We both have past experience (studio, live, etc.) in different band. Influences are bands such as Spiritbox, Sleep Token, Loathe, Thornhill, Invent Animate, Moodring, ...
Mainly looking for musicians (guitar/bass) with song writing ability and living around central Europe (Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, North of France, ...).
Feel free to send me a DM if you're interested ✨

(don't hesitate to tell me if there's a more appropriate chan to put this, new here)

[muted lake]

I've got a question concerning pedals and pedalboards, I'm a fairly new bass player self taught and making decent progress for 6 months and I want to setup a small pedalboard for a small budget consisting of a morley fuzz wah, and I'm not quite sure what overdrive pedal I'd want and what compressor I'd want, And for said pedalboard should I consider buying an actual power supply or start off with something cheaper like daisy chain, any suggestions would be lovely.

[gritty garden]

Can't help on the pedal suggestions but definitely buy a power supply with isolated outputs. What can happen with the daisy chains especially with overdrive pedals is you can create ground hum... Which if you're throwing through 2 overdrive pedals will amplify it ten fold.

Plus it's nice knowing that each thing has its own clean power source from the brick.

[muted lake]

Any suggestions for a power supply that are on the cheaper end?

[gritty garden]

Not sure I've not looked in a minute tbh.

Here's an example of what I mean https://youtu.be/EOqNaSZhDoY

I think I got the 1Spot Pro CS7 which is about £130. Just look at the milliamps and voltage of your pedals to check if the power supply you're looking at will meet the requirements.

[muted lake]

Sure thing, thanks for the advice 👍

[gritty garden]

You might get lucky though. A daisy chain might serve you well short term though until you can afford something better, fyi.

[toxic wharf]

Just learn triads across the fretboard

And the inversions. Dont get stuck in shapes

[vestal badger]

Banger

[scenic dune]

Si

[ebon relic]

I keep forgetting how hard these old Whitechapel songs are

Vicer Exciser is fucking tough

[vestal badger]

Shit I need to learn to write a guitar solo in like four hours

[hasty pivot]

Anyone here use Harley Benton guitars?

[hasty pivot]

Also, whatchu guys think of this riff? I’m new to writing still so critique is totally welcome!

[timid cedar]

guys

does a jazzmaster baritone neck need modification for a normal jazzmaster body

i really wanna have the loathe guitar but its way too limited and its a lot cheaper if i modify it myself

[verbal fossil]

I think the 1st issue you might have is wrong intonation, cuz the bridge might not be at the right place considering the spacing of the frets on the neck for the correct scale length

[timid cedar]

does that mean

a load of

buzzing

and constantly going out of tune

[verbal fossil]

well it's more like the 0 is in tune but everthing else is out of tune

no mater the intonation

[timid cedar]

ok so

what's a solution for that

like what should i be looking for when crafting that

[verbal fossil]

but you have to check if the bridge is placed at the right place already if not you will have to change the bridge's place

but it might already be in the right place

you just have to check

[timid cedar]

well cause

there IS a jazzmaster baritone but

its relatively expensive

and i thought that if there's a model already made

maybe the parts would be

already suited for each other?

or am i hella wrong o nthat one

[verbal fossil]

to be fair idk if the neck of the baritone fits a normal jazzmaster the only way you can check prior getting the neck is doing mesurements