you can still get achievements
#Save Fixing
sudden arch
spring glacier
oh, nice
sudden arch
well should be able to
spring glacier
what was the issue?
light cargo
🤔
light cargo
fine let me get the forbidden book of knowledge out of the closet and see if your mod breaks achievements
sudden arch
i was actively getting achievements whilst walking to the digsite
noteably getting corestone and cloutium achievements
sudden arch
2k dirt chunks
spring glacier
i don't even know how that would happen
light cargo
2k dirt chunks
did they change how dirt works then?
since my thing didnt catch "dirtQuality"
sudden arch
my guess is that a dirt chunk got stuck while loading and it just caught all the other chunks
light cargo
i need a better detector then since i couldnt see any dirt
deft dune
yup
deft dune
You have a filter on the underside of the cloutium pipe line, its broken and hidden
Its just before the first auto repair filter you got
spice zephyr
thats where the filter went lol that disappeared friday lol
deft dune
lol
spice zephyr
btw you are awesome
spiral kindle
🤔
Do you have other mods installed?
The mod is meant to be run alone
Unless it's for a mod save
light cargo
Do you have other mods installed?
no that was a screenshot of venom fixing the save
this one
obsidian comet
if you need mod list let me know in dm.
who knew removing the water stopper while the belt was on breaks the belt lol.
uneven harbor
Oh absolutely send your mod list here
My computer isn’t anything fancy so I don’t think I can load this one
But if whoever loads it is missing your mods then mod stuff will get deleted
obsidian comet
this is the ironic part. im on a gamer computer geared for VR and win 11. LOL
uneven harbor
I can't even alt+f4 the game now trying to load your save 😆
obsidian comet
thats why i called for help LOL
pulling it back cause i went to try again and it fixed itself
the belt just randomly repaired itself and the massive resources clog rode it.
uneven harbor
nice, im still trying to force close my game now lol
obsidian comet
i wound up for that log out of the computer log back in.
it was lag causing my issue. note to self NEVER work on the pipes while the system is running.
now i made sure i had a backup incase it decides to do this again
hybrid hamlet
I left my drills running and it won't load, no mods, and can you turn off the water downstairs if you are able to open it? Thanks
spiral kindle
I left my drills running and it won't load, no mods, and can you turn off the wa...
sure you got mods?
hybrid hamlet
I have no mods
hybrid hamlet
yeah, trying to get achievements
spiral kindle
I am unable to load the save it just crashes for me
hybrid hamlet
oh man... thanks for trying,
spiral kindle
I feel like its because its a cloud save
hybrid hamlet
i pulled that from my harddrive
is there another place than the saved games under my windows name?
spiral kindle
Yeah but cloud save is still enabled the reason i think its that is because i was able to load any save that has come and non of them were cloudsave
hybrid hamlet
i just checked my cloudsave online and it is the same file.. this stinks.. I appreciate the effort though
spiral kindle
Saves are in %localappdata%\Mining\Saved\SaveGames But i think you got it from there
There will be someone else who can try it
They are just not here right now
hybrid hamlet
okay, I
okay Ill try it later, do you do anythign special or jsut try it on another machine?
spiral kindle
I try it normally and also with a mod that im testing
hybrid hamlet
Well nice meeting you, and thank you
obsidian comet
I could try but i use mods.
hard depot
I can look in a couple of hours.
obsidian comet
this is why i turn off my water even when im just going to the store [in game] i have 5 shut off valves. 1 for drills, 2 for belts [one for drill belt the other for the resorces], and the grinder. shut them off in sequence of drill, belt1, grinder, belt 2, THEN main water valve. right nwo my water is off.
@hybrid hamlet is it ok if i turn off the water with mods or you prefer i turn off my mods before i try and fix your save?
do you have any mods btw?
deft dune
Loading the Same with Save Fixer 2.2 ends in a crash report
Loading vanilla the Save ends in a crash report.
obsidian comet
noluv's save?
deft dune
yup
obsidian comet
hmm i think ill try.
deft dune
The same is fixable, but I'm unable to keep the achievements flag intact
obsidian comet
almost got in. was bringing me to your base and then crashed @hybrid hamlet
sorry
spiral kindle
Yeah same
spiral kindle
The same is fixable, but I'm unable to keep the achievements flag intact
you got in?
deft dune
Yes using mods
Theres alot of iron ore/gold ore, so probably an issue after the harvester
hybrid hamlet
i dont have nay mods
yeah, I had about a dozen t3 harvesting away while i was remodeling and i got called away and just quit the game
deft dune
I can fix the save, but I unable to keep the achievements flag intact
hybrid hamlet
if you can save it I'll take it, I've resigned myself to starting over for the achievements
I wanted to test the value of the different crafting items so it'll still be a good save to do that
deft dune
you sound surprised?
spiral kindle
I couldnt get in
Can you try it with a mod?
The save fixer
Its been posted in #🤓nerd-lounge
deft dune
doesn't work, it just leads to a UE4 crash
deft dune
Yup, Mods
tall pollen
I wanted to test the value of the different crafting items so it'll still be a g...
btw, check out #1019663660521623623 message - I've already done some of that.
But if you want to because you want to, that's fine, too, haha.
spiral kindle
Which mods?
deft dune
Yours
I cleared the dirt/ore, but the achievement flag is most likely gone now. You will also need to turn off your drills and check that all the filters still have the gold ore/gems on the splitter/sorters
hybrid hamlet
oh wow thank you, and you're chart is pretty much what I was lookign to build
deft dune
chart?
hybrid hamlet
Kodiak,s post on value of processing items
uneven harbor
FAQ has all the nerdy information you could probably ever ask for
deft dune
To fix it the first time, I used deleteall mod part of hydroulitity++? deleting all in the resources tab allowed the save to load
The second time which is probably a bit cleaner was the MCGFixer Mod, this allowed me into the save
The issue with deleteall mod is that it does not seperate the raw and processed resources, if you could fix that, then that'd be great
otherwise I end up deleting bars and hydrocoins too
Save Fixer 2.2 didn't seem to have any impact on loading the save, both that and vanilla just resulted in the UE4 Crash
hybrid hamlet
IT works WhiteWolfnz, did lose the achievements flag on there but thank you for yours and everyone else's help, I'm not sure which mod killed the achievemnts flag though
deft dune
loading any mods or creative mode will diable the achievement flag
deft dune
yeah and thats where I can't help, MCG/deleteall worked, savefixer didnt'
I'll do some more tests later on, just gotta walk dog before the rain
spiral kindle
ill see if mine will load with it
hard depot
hmmm
deft dune
oohh No Access, I haven't been to that section yet
sick gorge
jeff bezos' save is of a world where all of his progress (and the starter items like pan+brush) vanished. it's not the first time that this happened to him
strong olive
3 times this is the most recent instance
spiral kindle
3 times this is the most recent instance
Do you have cloud save enabled?
strong olive
no
strong olive
Sadly we cant recover saves like this
any idea why it occured?
spiral kindle
i have 1 terrobyte left
also on your windows drive?
spiral kindle
any idea why it occured?
I have no clue
strong olive
yes 136 gb on my windows drive
spiral kindle
Maybe it misses permission to save in that folder
Weird when it works sometimes tho
strong olive
does the backup look the same as well?
spiral kindle
yeah
deft dune
Just a few suggestions if you didn't get any.
Disable Steam Cloud Saves in Steams Library and Diable any Cloud Saves in hydroneer itself. This usually helps saves not become corrupted.
Other things that can damage saves are things like spaces or weird unique characters in the savegames name. So just keep it simple
hard depot
fwiw all of mine have spaces.
deft dune
Agreed it should have no impact but I've seen cases suggesting it helped, however there could be another reason behind it
light cargo
Just a few suggestions if you didn't get any.
Disable Steam Cloud Saves in Stea...
Other things that can damage saves are things like spaces or weird unique characters in the savegames name. So just keep it simple
From my testing, special characters like !@#$%^&*(), space, ¡²³¤€¼½¾‘’ don't bug, but characters like ♫☼‼§ do
deft dune
yeah I just wanted to give him some points just in case he didn't get any
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sick gorge
Loaded into @plush anvil 's save and
- recovered his Hydrocoins from the river's mouth near Bridgepour
- collected the piles of gems that got left behind by the gem compressors at emerald cradle (emerald, saphire, ruby) and compressed them
- collected the piles of gold and iron as well as two shards and the unpolished gems (also at ember cradle) and made them into bars/compressed gems as well
- bought a pan and an iron intake for that
The Bars are in the safe at Ember Cradle, the Hydrocoins on top and the gems in a pan right next to it. Loading into the game puts you right there.
spring geyser
deft dune
Thanks
spring geyser
Thanks
i think its running on the ptb but this was like it before then
i have the plot at start and icehelm
deft dune
are both running?
spring geyser
icehelm likely is but not the start up one
deft dune
I'm getting around 100 FPS on load
spring geyser
i dont know what it could be as i say other save file has more going on and it still at 110fps
also i was getting 140 at 1440p ive reduced to 1080p and im getting 50 it makes no sense at all
deft dune
when you clear resources is that from the load screen or in the game save?
spring geyser
ive done both
deft dune
on load the game sits around 100 FPS
my screen is 144 FPS
clearing dirt and clearing raw ore in the save seems to improve things, but not on your end?
Does the game have 50FPS at specific areas?
spring geyser
so this is how my pc is running and when i intitally do it ie go to pause screen my frames return to 120 the moment i come out after clearing resources ium straight back down to like 50 60 fps
the only place im getting 110 is down by the rce bridge
austere wave
Perhaps I should load it on my potato and see if that reveals the issue 😄
deft dune
Whats your Max FPS set too in the video settings?
deft dune
looks like your magnets at ember cradle still have things stuck to them
austere wave
What's wrong with the save again?
deft dune
just bad fps
austere wave
so far runs way better than my main save xD
spring geyser
i dont get it im gunna finisah getting achievments in this save then restart i think as i say i done a crteative world on a bigger scale with everything operating and im still getting 110fps
deft dune
yeah its a little weird, I cannot find anything specific to as where a fps issue could be, you may have to get a bit extreme to find out
You could start by copying the save file to another save file, just use windows explorer copy/paste then rename it to something else
spring geyser
i cleared out half of what i had in icehelm and for everything i remoive it just offers me no benifit
deft dune
Load that save in creative mode (not your original save) then use the wand to delete stuff
austere wave
My main save struggles to push 25fps when I have my main drills running, and 10-15fps when I have all my drills running, and I get a solid 40fps in your save.
Not really seeing an issue xD
deft dune
I'd start with deleting Ember Cradle
spring geyser
ill give it a go
deft dune
See if that helps any
austere wave
logic saws can can intermittent issues for me, that are solved by reloading the save, maybe that's it?
spring geyser
i found the problem straight away
deft dune
lol what was it?
spring geyser
where you buy the drills and harvesters because their all duplicated and stuck inside it was causeing frame drop
deft dune
interesting, did you do something with them?
austere wave
might be a ptb issue, I did not switch to the ptb and I don't see any duped drills not obvious, but I can pick them up
spring geyser
I went into creative and used the wand to delete them
deft dune
ok if you go back your original save, without creative mode you should be able to fix the issue
just don't use creative mode
to get rid of the excess drills you can just take them outside of the shop without buying them
I think theres a iron harvester on there is well hidden
You all good now?
spring geyser
Yep thank you I didn't think to create new save and use wand
Only problem I get now is I have to remove them everytime I reload save as it always has duplicates
austere wave
Interestingly I see the same issue in my main save, but tossing the 15 odd extras doesn't have a meaningful impact on framerate
deft dune
Sure that'll get fixed soon
austere wave
I suspect at some point that object spam is overshadowed by the dirt/ore counts xD
next crane
T3 line keeps stuttering. cant figure out why i already thought i double checked. my other line also stutters but idc about that it will be shut down soon
deft dune
Any mods?
deft dune
where is this pipe?
next crane
should spawn in at it
south hope back left
corestone pipe idc about the cloutium stuttering
deft dune
mm most of used wrong player.sav hehe
next crane
the T3 belt
in the back left of the plot
should spawn in at the bottom of it
so do neither belt stutter for you then? maybe its a performance issue
both lines on my plot stutter for me but i was very careful and double checked when building
deft dune
see #🤔help
tall pollen
both lines on my plot stutter for me but i was very careful and double checked w...
Was this resolved?
tall pollen
Was this resolved?
( @deft dune ?)
ashen scroll
Hey I'm having troubles loading into my save and was hoping to get some help! The mods I have installed are RFC Mod Shop, Extended Water Pipes, HML, Build Anywhere, Hydrotility++, Hydrotility++ Moverment, Teleportals, Resource Combiners, Currency Converter, and Duct Tape.
next crane
@tall pollen think it ends up just being a performance issue. Not really sure though. Once I finish my build some more if I keep having the issue I'll repost my save
tall pollen
Hey I'm having troubles loading into my save and was hoping to get some help! Th...
I could load into it right away using the "Clear Resources on Load" available through the player test branch.
That means there's a tiny chance that I've introduced a bug by doing this, but it looks to work.
I had to delete a lot of dirt/raw resources, including what was on the trays. I placed resources back on the trays, but I didn't have corestone to put on the last tray.
ashen scroll
Awesome thank you! I'll give it a try and see what happens. Do I just replace the old "Level.sav" with the new one?
tall pollen
Awesome thank you! I'll give it a try and see what happens. Do I just replace th...
Right.
And perhaps keep the other one as a backup - just name it Level_old or something.
sick gorge
found only this https://i.imgur.com/dXIqTe7.png
tall pollen
found only this https://i.imgur.com/dXIqTe7.png
If you're talking about double_pinkeye's save, they have a mine in Icehelm (player.sav saves the player's location, and they were standing in it)
sick gorge
ah, ok 😉
tall pollen
Awesome thank you! I'll give it a try and see what happens. Do I just replace th...
I got it to barely load after deleting iron and gold only.
This is the culprit:
Likely, there was a resource popping out of the harvester the same time something dropped from a funnel and something got stuck there.
Try to get rid of the T1 harvester and use only one T2 harvester there on the bottom row.
ashen scroll
Thanks for the help @tall pollen I got back in and its all working now! I'll make the upgrades to try and prevent that buildup! And @sick gorge I didn't realize I had a problem there! Ill make sure I fix that thank you both!
deft dune
( <@139316380527886336> ?)
I loaded up the save for a an hour or so testing, but I was unable to find any issues on my PC. I ran out of time at the end. The issue is the pipes seem to drop to 0 pressure then back again. The Drills seem to turn off then on again. But I could never reproduce the fault
fluid notch
@light cargo if maybe you could tell me how to do it myself somehow I'd like to learn for future problems, don't wana have to bother you every time lol
light cargo
i'll try 😄
primal peak
Folks who're usually helping others in this forum post...
How are you finding the new 'resource remover' option added in todays patch? Our plan for this is to essentially remove the need for this forum post and have any issues sorted using this new option.
light cargo
Folks who're usually helping others in this forum post...
How are you finding th...
i wanted to try it out but i never had the time for it
tired heath
<@946028925203669045> if maybe you could tell me how to do it myself somehow I'...
Tick the box on the menu when loading your save - this should clean it up ready for you to use
light cargo
<@946028925203669045> if maybe you could tell me how to do it myself somehow I'...
ok so without even opening the game, you have 15 dirt laying around and like 3000-3100 loose items , ores, bars, whatever
i suggest opening the save with cleaning as ^^ says
also 356/2 = 128 ? fish
fluid notch
ok so without even opening the game, you have 15 dirt laying around and like 300...
How do you open it with cleaning?
uneven harbor
it should be a checkbox, under creative
fluid notch
oh, that didn't work
light cargo
i'll try the same thing
fluid notch
ive also like set my settings to absolute low and im only able to walk around for 2-3 seconds
tired heath
oh, that didn't work
What didn't work with it?
light cargo
What didn't work with it?
oh boy 1 second being in with fixing and it froze
does clear resources include gems?
fluid notch
What didn't work with it?
yea, the clear resources didn't help my save
tired heath
does clear resources include gems?
Yeah
Correction - apologies - Cut gems are not included
light cargo
then i think that is what happened
fluid notch
hm, pretty weird
I made sure to turn off my machine before exiting
uneven harbor
my money is on an emerald buildup
fluid notch
was sure I cleaned it all up
uneven harbor
unless something weird is going on
light cargo
was sure I cleaned it all up
well i did see 3000-3100 "any non-build item" in the save-reader thing i got
that has to be something
fluid notch
what about buildings that are not set down?
I had been working on the machine for a few hours and may have left quite a few things around
light cargo
that is an build item with this tool; and they dont impact performance as much as ores
fluid notch
ah alright
light cargo
this because usually an ore/gem/whatever spillage means they are all in a clump
if its a loose clump then all of these will collide with like 5-9 others * how many you get
if its a tight clump then all of these will collide with most to ALL of the others * how many you get
at best its like 100 items * 5 = 500 collisions
but at worst its 100 items * 99 = 9900 collisions
build items tend to be spread out or in a cart and not having collisions
fluid notch
I see, then yea
It must be either my emeralds or sapphires. I have been working hard to make sure dirt and ores don't clump at the end
had just put in a new system that seemd to work well for those
light cargo
i'm opening the save with HML and hydrolity (which would dirty the save)
to see if i can open it at all
fluid notch
**Correction - apologies - Cut gems are not included**
Maybe there is a way to have the clear resources thing clear under a particular weight? or are ores on sorters and compressors safe already?
light cargo
ok so i cannot go to gems fast enough
i am deleting all resources under 10 weight see if that works
tired heath
Found the problem
light cargo
can you fix it without dirtying the save?
fluid notch
huh, thought I looked at them before exiting but guess not lol
light cargo
any way we could force a gem deletion from main menu without dirtying save?
tired heath
Out of curiosity - when was the last time you left this save?
fluid notch
yesterday
light cargo
huh, thought I looked at them before exiting but guess not lol
yeah this is why we usually recommend having a drop into the compressor
Im surprised your smelters work as they are
fluid notch
whats wrong with my smelters? 🥲
light cargo
the funnels 👀
but hey if it works i guess thats in the "evidence against steef" pile lol
fluid notch
Thanks! We'll keep an eye on it 😄
Happy to try and break the game with just numbers any time c:
Ill let you know how the full machine works when I finish it xD
tired heath
Good luck!
fluid notch
@light cargo thank you for trying sorry that dev tools won
light cargo
<@946028925203669045> thank you for trying ~~sorry that dev tools won~~
nah this is cool; least i can do is the save reader tool
i could explain how i do it; even have a video
but if people mis-use it it will lead to save corruption
oh that reminds me i should do a corruption test
fluid notch
yea, should have a back up your save reminder
uneven harbor
reminder to back up your save
light cargo
pre-corruption
OH no i edited the save by "accident"
fluid notch
OH no, you poor thing
light cargo
and it froze the game maybe i need to edit something else
- Added new preventative measures for corrupted files. You'll automatically be directed to the backup of the save file if it detects a corruption.
#BlameMax
tall pollen
Folks who're usually helping others in this forum post...
How are you finding th...
@tired heath (because I'm afraid of tagging max, haha)
Best/fancy option would be 3 checkboxes, revealed with an "expand" arrow where the current check box is. Dirt, raw resources, and gems. Plus a slider for gem weight.
Bonus points (if possible) display the quantity of items before loading that fall within that weight.
But one way or another, gems should be included in cleanup.
deft dune
Folks who're usually helping others in this forum post...
How are you finding th...
I haven't yet seen enough data from the resource remover to know how well thats working. But I just wanted to add that this forum post isn't solely used for Saves that have too much resources in them.
I Also use this forum post for generally anything that requires a save upload. Including things like FPS Issues (like for example all the iron drills spawning on themselfs) and other issues such as cork in pipes.
I usually redirect people here when the need to chat can be quite extensive and I feel like it clogs up the main #🤔help with questions and responses that are not all that helpful and may possibly be missed when multiple conversations are happening.
sick gorge
Folks who're usually helping others in this forum post...
How are you finding th...
I tried it while still on the ptb and discovered the res deletion also killed nuggets on splitter trays (reported and no longer the case), so it was a bit too effective for me that moment. Didn't yet try again but given the potential advantages, I already promote that feature for those that littered their save
austere wave
<@167728011007885312> (because I'm afraid of tagging max, haha)
Best/fancy optio...
Could also be a "keep largest x of each gem"
Heaviest 20/50/100 of each gem would probably cover almost everyone for options. although that may be more troublesome than just "delete any gems under x weight"
light cargo
Could also be a "keep largest x of each gem"
Heaviest 20/50/100 of each gem wou...
due to how items load in it would keep the first 20 gems
then whenever a gem is loaded it would have to sort through the list and delete the lowest
it is not that efficient but if you use binary heaps it is a bit mitigated
austere wave
Yeah, that loop can be pretty heavily optimized depending on the format. Data pre-processing/data analytics was my day job for many years. We pushed far more complicated python pre-processors up to 10k-100k entries/sec or more on a "normal" computer, at least when dealing with text manipulation.
And given it scales linearly with how bad your save is, even if it took 10 minutes to automatically fix your save, that would probably be worth it. (in that case I'd expect it to culling millions of objects. The last time I had to manually clear my save (with an autoclicker, thank you autoclicker) I had like 10k gems and it took about an hour, so I'd expect that to be measured in seconds to process.)
What I don't know is whether that's feasible given the game's save structure/loading strategy to pre-strip those items before the save "loads" properly.
light cargo
Yeah, that loop can be pretty heavily optimized depending on the format. Data pr...
What i've seen from loading higgs' save the other day is it spawns in items continuously, seemingly at random but probably by creation date from the save file
And you'd need to put a test and delete within that load step
austere wave
I'm a little surprised that a fresh save I made to diff the saves with meld is ~21MB...
Compare this with my end-game 60 drill automated save at 24MB, seems like the majority of the save data is not player influenced content.
It does make me wonder what sort of shenanigans one might be able to get up to by introducing unexpected changes though.
light cargo
I'm a little surprised that a fresh save I made to diff the saves with meld is ~...
yeah this game is weird
some people have 8-9 MB new saves
some have 15-16
some 21
hard depot
A drill an placement is probably just a few bytes of data.
Raw resources on the other hand...
light cargo
Raw resources on the other hand...
from what i can read every item has roughly the same space use
"BoolProperty�������������None���������B���.Fld.VnqkcNai.Hsdlr.Bqnor.AO^OkmsEntmcshnm-AO^OkmsEntmcshnm^B ���AO^OkmsEntmc`shnm^B^1036283301�������€¨êz?èK>Ð/Æœ—$GüªC��€?��€?��€?�:������bCanBeDamaged�
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that is 212 characters of hex ; 00 -> FF or 0->255
which is 212 bytes
hard depot
ah, that makes sense. x, y, z data, perhaps some acceleration (or not which is why things freeze on save), model id, maybe some other meta.
light cargo
do note there is a whole bunch of the save file that i cant read and there is a header that has checksum data and stuff
looks about right
austere wave
Yeah, not that motivated to start bit twiddling with it trying to sus out the structure. Especially given the checksum: you have to solve that before you can make any meaningful progress.
light cargo
Yeah, not that motivated to start bit twiddling with it trying to sus out the st...
from what i understand it is something like this;
the first 16-30 bytes is general checksum / length / information data
then every 64-128 bytes after that is encoded as blocks
and i think they do is the 64/128 as a checksum as special data blocks on the end
this means that any standard checksum test will fail since those take all data into account and not just "blocks"
i was researching it for a bit but it's a nightmare and probably beyond my level
mystic ember
I hopped on my save yesterday and did a lot of work. I exited with save and exit to desktop and went to bed. Today when i went to go back on it the save is there but its a fresh game. I ran to my plot and it was empty. help please
uneven harbor
have you saved the game since you opened it to an empty world? if no alt+f4
uneven harbor
might be a lost cause, but have you tried loading the backup
mystic ember
mhm 😦
uneven harbor
#1068650486900719666 message
well, we have a quickstart save for instances when saves get corrupted
mystic ember
where is the save file located?
uneven harbor
do you have steam cloud save enabled?
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mystic ember
do you have steam cloud save enabled?
i think so it says cloud status up to date on steam
uneven harbor
okay, going forward leave steam cloud save disabled
uneven harbor
steam has a bug where it wipes saves
mystic ember
I had someone fix my save file a while ago so i guess ill just restart from there
austere wave
from what i understand it is something like this;
the first 16-30 bytes is gen...
Yeah, trying to reverse engineer a checksum scheme, while doable, is beyond the amount of effort I intend to put into it 🤷
lunar lark
the savefile for the yeeted lady npc with broken pathing
lament geode
For those not following in #📝bug-report , Laura hit an NPC so hard, their pathing broke and they stay stuck after a reload.
I'm at work now, but I'm sure someone else will be on to see if they can replicate it on your save file
tepid birch
I would love to open it up, but I have no idea how to open a .rar file
sudden mauve
I would love to open it up, but I have no idea how to open a .rar file
use winrar
or 7zip, im pretty sure that also supports rar
lunar lark
sorry yup, i didnt pay attention to savefile size so i zipped it just in case
spiral kindle
I can get the npc out with mods
spiral kindle
Let me try something then
Not that I know
Will try in like 20 mins gonna make food haha
lunar lark
haha 😄
i mean i am ok with walking extra meters into water to get q its just funny that shes protesting in wwater
spiral kindle
I think I had the same thing actually
I had also hit her in the water and then onto a mountain lol
But I will see if it's the same for me
lunar lark
did it fix her?
lunar lark
lul, i love the mech of the yeeting. the only thing missing is a sound
😄
as in stronger one
last turret
it crashes within a couple of min.
hard depot
nice, lemme have a go
last turret
nice, lemme have a go
Thank you.
spring geyser
you have a pile up developing on your smelters
spiral kindle
@lunar lark there is no npc stuck in the water for me weird
try restarting the game
that might have done it
last turret
you have a pile up developing on your smelters
Was this for me?
lunar lark
i actualy managed to fix it by unpacking that save i published, just today but i had to leave house
spring geyser
ye
spiral kindle
glad to hear strange tho
lunar lark
so yeah when npc is very brioken the save goes cooko
😄
but its fine now
she still gets stuck in water but now when i reload she is back on her spot
so just funky save buisnes or something
spring geyser
ah ye i see it crashed on mine now
spring geyser
i load intos papas save but i ran down th shaft and game just crashed out of no where after a couple of minutes
last turret
i load intos papas save but i ran down th shaft and game just crashed out of no ...
yea isn't it weird?
spiral kindle
i havent crashed yet
spring geyser
LoginId:ad6f6dc249944c7f4e644ca9626c1fd4
EpicAccountId:725422a3039a473eacf9733955bbaef4
Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION 0x0000000000000000
Mining_Win64_Shipping
APEXFramework_x64
PhysX3_x64
PhysX3_x64
APEXFramework_x64
Mining_Win64_Shipping
Mining_Win64_Shipping
Mining_Win64_Shipping
Mining_Win64_Shipping
Mining_Win64_Shipping
Mining_Win64_Shipping
Mining_Win64_Shipping
Mining_Win64_Shipping
Mining_Win64_Shipping
Mining_Win64_Shipping
Mining_Win64_Shipping
Mining_Win64_Shipping
Mining_Win64_Shipping
Mining_Win64_Shipping
kernel32
ntdll
spiral kindle
i see nothing weird
besides resources piled up next to the smelters but that is probably due to when you empty it
@last turret any mods?
last turret
no mods no creative mode was going for achievements
spring geyser
on a second load so far its been ok
last turret
just crashed again for me took a little longer
spring geyser
ye i have now crashed again
spiral kindle
i just crashed
spring geyser
i even had turned the water off
last turret
corrupted save file?
spiral kindle
could it be achievements?
spring geyser
do you have any other mining sites
spiral kindle
ember
spring geyser
is it active]
last turret
one but hasn't run for ahwile its at ember creek
uneven harbor
That’ll do it
spiral kindle
you did this one correctly
but this one loops again
and has a cork
another loop
at the harvester
spiral kindle
and then a really big loop
i deleted pipes but
this is the left side of it
from the back you can the pipe going all the way back to the beginngin
last turret
yea they got outta control fast. i was really tired when doing this build lol
spring geyser
ive adjusted the pipes and i still crashed so its not that
last turret
ive adjusted the pipes and i still crashed so its not that
itchybeard is looking into it.
spring geyser
i also took all the extra spawned drills and harvesters at ember cradle shop out and it still crashed so not either of them
ok
spiral kindle
My guess its still all the loops @tired heath
last turret
Thank you for the help though.
spiral kindle
Thank you for the help though.
check if removing the loops help
you should turn of the water leave the save and join again
and then remove all the loops
the save and reload is pure to make sure there is no water just looping somewhere in the pipes
spring geyser
i have removed them all plus the dupe drills and harvesterat ember cradle still crashed
austere wave
I've seen issues with lag which seemed related to broken filters. I loaded up your save and tried removing the input pipe at ember cradle (valve should be before the filters, otherwise they continue to burn even when your machines are off) and turned off the water at south hope... haven't moved any pipes or anything like that.
10 minutes no crash... how long was it taking to crash for you guys?
spring geyser
it varied it crashed faster if water was running at south hope
no water i waited about 20 or so miinutes and had a crash
austere wave
I turned the water back on, we'll see 🙂
hey there we go (crash). So I guess it's not the busted filter at ember.
spiral kindle
Maybe it's a combination
austere wave
I disconnected the input water pipe at ember, so at the very least it had zero water pressure.
Loaded it back up and now have both input pipes removed. I'll give it some time and see if it still chokes.
Loading up other people's saves just reminds me of how janky my own mines are xD
austere wave
Only two other weird things I noticed in that save: they've got a bunch of stuff just sitting on the scrapyard burn plates, and this. But not sure why either of those would cause a crash xD
austere wave
Given it's been almost 30 minutes with south hope off no crashes, I'm inclined to agree
spiral kindle
there is a lot
austere wave
and when I say off I mean water input disconnected. Not sure if that's important.
spiral kindle
I believe not
i have checked all their pipes
except ember
but all of the pipes in southope
austere wave
Time to do some bisections and see what causes it. 30 minutes with south hope off no crashes. Like 3 with it on and it crashed.
Weird, the input pipe left behind the boosters when I picked it up...
Removed a pipe in the first set of stairs (between the surface and the 1st level of drills), no issues for 10 minute. Added it back in, crashed within seconds.
sadly doesn't repro the instacrash when I reload and try again.
austere wave
1st level of drills seems to not cause crashes either. 35 minutes no crashes, so I'd bet the problem is somewhere in the 2nd level
spring geyser
you have more patience than me haha
austere wave
I mean I was just letting it go in the background. And that kinda made sense: they likely would have posted their saves earlier if the problem was encountered earlier in their construction.
last turret
I mean I was just letting it go in the background. And that kinda made sense: th...
i was able to fix the tier 2 level. not sure what it was but was able to redesign a bit. now has been working for almost an hour.
austere wave
probably the loops. I imagine itchy & scratchy will be interested in fixing whatever crash regardless. Loops might be bad, but they shouldn't be crashtacular.
fickle raptor
My pipes ran out of fuel, so when I put the fuel in, world crashed. Hopefully someone can load in and clear dirt chunks? Or let it run for a few minutes so it stops flipping out
deft dune
My pipes ran out of fuel, so when I put the fuel in, world crashed. Hopefully so...
Hi Shian, If you are running the latest version you click the "Clear Resources" button when you go to load the save, this will clear the dirt chunks and allow you to get back in
deft dune
If this doesn't work let me know and I'll load it up the old way
fickle raptor
Hi Shian, If you are running the latest version you click the "Clear Resources" ...
I can't get in to clear anything. It just won't load
spiral kindle
I can't get in to clear anything. It just won't load
before you load there is an option to clear raw resources on load
just like creative mod or cloud save
you toggle it before you load in
fickle raptor
Yay! I got it! Thank you.
I'm sorry I didn't look and see the thing...
Too busy panicking that I couldn't get in and since I lost my save once...
spiral kindle
Too busy panicking that I couldn't get in and since I lost my save once...
no worries glad it helped 😄
sharp viper
no idea what's going on, power went out, save maybe corrupted but still loads, i just spawn under ground with all of my belongings no longer existing, tried a new game and same thing happened
deft dune
I'll load it up when I can but it's probably a blank save file loaded from a corrupted save
Is the level.sav in the backup folder the same size?
sharp viper
in the back up its 21.37mb but has the same issue
deft dune
Thanks
I'd suggest starting by turning off steam cloud saves in the hydroneer settings tab in steam
And turning off cloud saves in game this usually helps stop the bug from happening
Assuming the power cut didn't trash the save
Does that allow you too save?
sharp viper
yeah starting a new game seems to work now
can leave and come back to actually having stuff so thats good
deft dune
You may want to backup the save files every so often
Just copy the two files to Google cloud or something
deft dune
can leave and come back to actually having stuff so thats good
Not important, The first level.sav is empty blank, its padded with NULL. So there is no data in it at all.
The second file seems complete (starts/ends with markers I usually see) however there seems to be no data inside the file other then just blank data, no vehicles no tools. This is usually the result from loading a corrupted save file then saving over the top of that save file.
If you have any further let the guys know in #🤔help or #📝bug-report
paper nymph
unsure if these are done right but hopefully they can be recovered
deft dune
unsure if these are done right but hopefully they can be recovered
did anyone get back to you on these? It'd be helpful to know what the issue is etc?
loading the save files they appear blank, usually this happens after some sort of corruption on the master save file, it tries (fails) to load data and loads you into a blank save
If you got steam cloud enabled for hydroneer in steam (game properties) try turning that off and don't use cloud saves tickbox in game.
Also don't use spaces or weird/unique characters in the saved game name.
Hopefully that should help with the save file not corrupting itself.
paper nymph
did anyone get back to you on these? It'd be helpful to know what the issue is e...
No one has, it's not on steam cloud save, and there's no spaces or special characters in my save
deft dune
you'll need to check both locaions, in steam itself and in game. Theres a rare bug that can happen that wipes the data from the save files resulting in corrupted saves.
Its also possible something on your PC modified it (virus/malware) making the game think it was corrupted (unlikely)
paper nymph
I'm about to go to bed, would you mind helping me with that tomorrow?
deft dune
sure just ping me, I'll reply if I'm around
paper nymph
Sure 🙂 thank you
hard depot
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hard depot
Ok I'm in, but ember cradle is empty except for a shovel hole?
none of the other plots are touched, I'm guessing this isn't the affected save.
junior bison
hrmm, South Hope is where i had my mine
junior bison
Ok I'm in, but ember cradle is empty except for a shovel hole?
Try this one:
hard depot
that's it! I'm in.
I turned on your setup and it's been running for 10 minutes or so, no problems.
did you hand pan cradle to make enough for south hope? Killer! 🙂
Moreover, I don't see anything too crazy. Dozen or two drills, sensible sorting setup
junior bison
strange. I wonder why it crashes for me
junior bison
did you hand pan cradle to make enough for south hope? Killer! 🙂
not hand pan, just used the starting drill/harvester
Ok, I think i stumbled on to something. If the game doesn't crash until I start manipulating dirt (pickaxe/rake)
hard depot
Oh interesting. I’ll give that a go.
hard depot
Oh i might’ve missed that, only saw t2 drills.
junior bison
there's only 1 drill and it's not finished. It's what i was working on when the crashing started
hard depot
I can't get back to it for a few hours but I’ll start there.
paper nymph
second time in a week, even on a new save. if someone could help me id be so grateful.
deft dune
Whats the issue?
light cargo
Whats the issue?
looks like its all 0'd out
that means save corruption
@paper nymph save corruption can have several causes, could you please help us find the cause by providing the circumstances on how it happened, and your PC specs (parts)?
Oh and sadly, we cannot really "fix" this save as i cant get data out of all 0's
paper nymph
looks like its all 0'd out
that means save corruption
<@335190715367817218> sav...
Well I took advice from last time and started saving and quitting to the menu instead of the desktop. I'm not sure what happened, I just logged out, went to work, came home and my world was pretty much reset like the first time. I'll grab you my specs in a few
paper nymph
Oh and sadly, we cannot really "fix" this save as i cant get data out of all 0's
heres my specs
light cargo
Hey, @tired heath could you look at this issue more?
Im a bit caught up in work
tired heath
Hmm - corrupted saves. We've not been able to nail down what exactly is causing the issue. Only things we've heard that fix the issue for some users, is as you've tried, save and quit to menu, before closing the game. And also disabling Steam Cloud Save sometimes helps.
What are you naming your save(s)?
Do you have the game installed to your C (windows) drive?
paper nymph
Hmm - corrupted saves. We've not been able to nail down what exactly is causing ...
My first one was called Kembreeze and my second one was called redemption, it's not saved to the windows drive. The first save that became corrupted wasn't saved to the steam cloud, but this one was
deft dune
you'll need to disable the steam cloud completely, is steam cloud disabled for hydroneer?
The option you need to disable is the bottom one, "Kepp games saves in the..."
The files being padded with NULL/zeros can be replicated. In my game this was by deleting steam cloud enabled saves (so it updated the steam cloud cache file) then deleting the save file from outside the game.
This left the file inside of steams cache file, (which stores the hash/filename/filesize)
When reloading the game, something will recreate the directories and files (level.sav and player.sav) but it will be the same size as the steam cache file, but it will be padded by NULL
gaunt crystal
Hi, my save file wont load due to too many resources in pans. What can I do about this?
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hard depot
You can post your save here but did you try the clear all resources checkbox?
gaunt crystal
Will that remove the resources from pans?
And what will putting my save in here do?
tired heath
And what will putting my save in here do?
Allows someone else with a more powerful computer to load your save, delete the resources, and send it back so you can load back in.
gaunt crystal
How powerful because mine is already quite up there
tired heath
I can't answer that, because I don't know your hardware, nor other users' hardware. Most of the time, someone else is successfully able to load into a bricked save and clear it up because they have a more powerful computer, or more patience 😅
hollow grotto
Is it ok that I have mods installed
if you have some that add actual content its good to list them so it’s not deleted when loading up the world
gaunt crystal
Here are the mods:
RFCModShop
Delete Cut Gems
Hydrotility Collisions
Hydrotility Movement
Hydrotility ++
Build Anywhere
More Pickaxes
Bulk Buy Crates
Infinite Durabililty
ExtendedWaterPipes
dw i got in just took some time
hard depot
Yeah best to walk away for a while 🙂
And it might crash when you interact with stuff. Save often as you clean up.
raven oriole
My save wont load due to cut gems, game freezes on the loading screen, have to restart computer to exit hydroneer
only mod is delete cut gems
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spiral kindle
only mod is delete cut gems
Upload ye save
deft dune
did this save still need fixing? I have attempted to load it, probably takes about an hour, this is afk save gone wrong?
Also this save achievements flag intact or modded? (allows me to use mods to fix)
raven oriole
yes, this save does still need fixing, i poured out a pan full of gems, save achievements is modded so feel free to use mods to fix
deft dune
explains why theres a bucket floating on my screen
I'll give it a bit more time then try forcing a clean up of cut gems
deft dune
yes, this save does still need fixing, i poured out a pan full of gems, save ach...
In the end it took too long, I suspect if you leave it long enough it would work itself out, but I have no idea if it would or if it just ends up in a loop forever.
I have deleted the cut gems, I think the mod leaves any big gems (50w+ and oynx)
If you had any mods loaded, I'll need a list of them to preserve the mod data within the save (as I loaded it without mods any modded items will vanish)
raven oriole
thanks man
raven oriole
i didnt have any mods installed but delete cut gems btw
deft dune
If your wondering what the trick was you have to press ESC as quickly as possible then hammer the delete all gems button before it starts loading in too much
lament geode
@white sparrow here is where you want to post your Save to be fixed. I copied it from the other forum post:
I left the game on for a couple of hours and now the game froze and i cant clear all dirt/ore chunks pls help
(attached is the broken save)
light cargo
What mods were used if any?
lament geode
didn't say
gray patrol
i got my world file here anybody who loads in will automatically know whats wrong. there is a pan full of shards iron gems and gold. can somebody please take that to the jeweler and sell it for me?
uneven harbor
Any mods?
gray patrol
yeah i will check
light cargo
i got my world file here anybody who loads in will automatically know whats wron...
first things first let me do a quick readout
19 "dirt"
5271 "canbedamaged" (tools, recourses, misc)
16 "placeddown" (build items)
ok that means that its 5250 ish recourses, sounds like not that bad but i fear its probably emeralds
gray patrol
hml, rfcmodshop, more pickaxes, extended water pipes, Resource teleeports, extended logic, eleportals, logic addons, mining tnt, pickaxe+ infinitedurability and more pans
those are the mods
sorry it took so long i had to scroll a bit
light cargo
let me enable the mods that i dont have so we dont get funny business
gray patrol
i have a terrible computer so thats why i cant run it
light cargo
i have a terrible computer so thats why i cant run it
oh dont worry, i got you
gray patrol
thanks
light cargo
this may take a bit
gray patrol
and it could run a second and a half on my computer?
light cargo
while i load, what claim are you on?
gray patrol
the starting one
light cargo
this game is weird with what pcs work and how loading times work
i have a save that i can get 30-90 fps that takes 2mins to load
gray patrol
i just made the world so there isnt much just that bucket
light cargo
oh no if its a bucket i may die lol
gray patrol
just what ever you do please do not clear resources
light cargo
i got a few aces up my sleeve dw too much
gray patrol
yeah i dont knowi cant really see it that well
gray patrol
since there is infinite durability i just leave it like that and i am fine
light cargo
its basically 5000 normal recourses
gray patrol
apart from frame rate
light cargo
since there is infinite durability i just leave it like that and i am fine
you need a sorter and smelter so that you dont FPS death
gray patrol
i should have made it drop into a crucible
light cargo
like i could crash if i pick up that pan
gray patrol
try it lol
light cargo
do you know what that entails lol
light cargo
picking up 5000 items will make those 5000 items calculate collisions with every other 4999 items
gray patrol
what does that mean?
light cargo
now if it was 10 items, thats 10x9 or 90 calculations
5k that is llike upward of 25 MILLION calculations
pearl socket
It means 12.5 million physics calcuations
light cargo
of physics
gray patrol
oh no
light cargo
so yeah
pearl socket
5000*5001/2
light cargo
i mean if it didnt crash it could take hours to process 1 frame
light cargo
5000*5001/2
its just 5000x4999
gray patrol
oh i see
light cargo
not even /2
pearl socket
Thats the formula for 1+2+3+etc
light cargo
i'm looking so that i can recover the most of it
gray patrol
oh how?
pearl socket
Which is basically what that's doing
gray patrol
oh okay
light cargo
basically
gray patrol
kinda like what the gem compressor does
pearl socket
I assume your tools don't show the total weight of all that crap, so you gotta average it out with your depth data?
gray patrol
i am so lost right now
light cargo
kinda like what the gem compressor does
i am just doing it manually with the spawn menu
pearl socket
Sorry, that was for Steef. I'm curious about his process of dealing with that
gray patrol
oh ok
pearl socket
Knowing the method behind his madness means I can better help others in the future when shooting saves over to him
gray patrol
@light cargo you will probably see the flying goggles it isnt in creative and i only used it for the goggles and hourglass
pearl socket
Shouldn't make any difference. What matters is if achievements are enabled or not because some processes can't be done while maintaining achievement enabled status
And if you already popped into creative and used mods, well the answer is pretty clear that you aren't concerned about them. Meaning all good 🙂
gray patrol
i never had them since i run mods like extended logic and extended pipes
pearl socket
Do you even do logic? I know this is off topic but curious why you have the mod if you aren't in the inner circle of logic nerds
gray patrol
i dont do logic but i wanna try it out
pearl socket
Fair enough. I can appreciate that answer
light cargo
one down like 7 togo
light cargo
im using the scales as a sanity check that i didnt miss something
gray patrol
iforgot that shards dont have a price
pearl socket
They are priceless ❤️
light cargo
They are priceless ❤️
💫 they are worthless 💫
ok hydropolice is on my heels
gray patrol
how did you guys become beta testers
light cargo
get the hydro nerd role and then get invited by itchy to 2.1 and 2.2 beta
gray patrol
alr
pearl socket
Basically be helpful
gray patrol
im guessing a hydro nerd is someone who knows a lot about the game?
pearl socket
Not that hard to do. Being a nice guy on the internet isn't that hard to achieve
light cargo
its 100+ pokes in #🤖bot-channel
gray patrol
is itchy beard a dev?
pearl socket
Nerd role is based on poke count. You get pokes for helping out from other members of the community
Yes, Itchy is a cool guy who does dev things
pearl socket
All those swag af models in game... yea, that's Itchy 🙂
gray patrol
im guessing max doesnt care about modders since he has #💻modding-releases#👮🏼modding and #🔧modding-dev
pearl socket
On the contrary... He cared enough to make it possible to easily mod the game
light cargo
this is like accurate to 1%
pearl socket
So you did use your depth spreadsheet to do that
light cargo
no
pearl socket
No?
pearl socket
I thought you had an average on that spreadsheet
light cargo
like here i get 0.3 - 1.5 wt ores
gray patrol
back
pearl socket
I figured you were taking item count and multiplying it by the average
pearl socket
OH, you do have a weight on that tool
light cargo
(the 001 matters)
gray patrol
im still yet to know whats in the relic door somehow
light cargo
we cannot say that
pearl socket
I've only ever seen you post the "count" in images in the past. So that's why I was curious how you were addressing that
gray patrol
i wouldnt want you to
light cargo
anywho with half the ores gone i may be able to pick up the pan
but its still like 2.5k, 6.2mil calculations
pearl socket
3.1 :x
I highly doubt it's double dipping between two entities
So a and b would be one calculation, no b + a included
pearl socket
Which means the infinite formula stands. Although you were right about it being 4999*5000/2 earlier. Still was 12.5m roughly so no biggy there
light cargo
like
idk
from what i sus all particles will do all calculations with all neighbors
not just the one calc per collison
i believe AB and BA both happen
pearl socket
Mayhaps. I thought the collision calculations happened once per ab then altered the course of both
light cargo
and for this its better to be safe with it lol i dont want a crash
@gray patrol what do you want with the uncut gems
theres like a good 400 if i have to guesstimate
gray patrol
you can destroy them
light cargo
i mean i can sell them like i got solid 12fps
you can handle the iron and gold, i'd use them for drill crafting and smithing respectively
gray patrol
oh okay then please sell them
light cargo
pretty much
gray patrol
oh yeah also please get rid of the scale
light cargo
2 steps ahead on that lol
gray patrol
oh okay
light cargo
im just now doing another diagnostic just to be sure
gray patrol
can you send the file through?
light cargo
will do once i think its fixed lol
gray patrol
that shard is massive
light cargo
before:
19 "dirt"
5271 "canbedamaged" (tools, recourses, misc)
16 "placeddown" (build items)
now:
1 "dirt"
470 "canbedamaged" (tools, recourses, misc)
16 "placeddown" (build items)
470 is still relatively high ngl
it could be all the shop items around the world
light cargo
a drill is a build item too
light cargo
and somethings like count as build items but arent
pearl socket
Mhmm. The 470 has me raising my eyebrows though. Did he pull a madman and litter the shops?
light cargo
this is not really well understood
light cargo
Mhmm. The 470 has me raising my eyebrows though. Did he pull a madman and litt...
no item has more than 5
and that is mining TNT
in my old item list theres 319 items
so 470 is not that crazy
i chuck that 150 up to the random dispersed items, mod stuff and just miscategorised items
(and 2.2 stuff i dont have in my list)
@gray patrol
light cargo
now the drill is gone and it freezes every time i open it
Hm
Well i fell asleep
I cant really help until after dinner in like 10 hours
gray patrol
i fixed it
west birch
digital bramble
Just a small question, what pc is considered beefy for save fixing?
light cargo
Just a small question, what pc is considered beefy for save fixing?
Basically anything with a strong CPU and GPU, though its more CPU heavy
limber temple
light cargo
hello, what is your issue that needs to be fixed, and do you use any mods?
limber temple
they fixxed it
light cargo
o
limber temple
tanks tho
fickle cloud
pearl socket
Still vanilla, so achievement friendly. Just gotta finish removing your unhooked up logic yourself and hammer in the few things I placed
Sorry about that. Small oversight on my part. Use this new one
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woven vapor
alr @gusty ember
im doing it now (;
its taking a while to load i see you're issue
how much gems are in the bucket
okay sorry man but thats even too much for me to handle
light cargo
okay sorry man but thats even too much for me to handle
Lol
woven vapor
im using a 3090 too so idk if even a 4090 would work
you pay so much more for so much less
light cargo
im using a 3090 too so idk if even a 4090 would work
this game is CPU heavy
sounds like a mod fix
wooden wing
so i had a bunch of stuff in my truck, went to buy new mine to move to, and then i left, when i came back and tried to load my game, when ever i load the save file it crashes
its on volcalidus
hard depot
its on volcalidus
I can give 'er a go if you're unmodded.
wooden wing
yep, no mods
hard depot
nice.
wooden wing
if u could just move the cart off the back of the truck, if it loads. should prob fix it
wooden wing
hopefully
hard depot
🎶 saillling away
wooden wing
lol
wooden wing
right outside of the first mine
hard depot
dawn's rest? Hmm. This didn't work.
can you zip up your whole save folder?
it's weird, the starter truck isn't there and the story isn't started and dawn's is untouched.
hard depot
nice thanks
wooden wing
ah i think ik the problem, is it bc i sent only the volcalidus save stuff?
hard depot
damn.
wooden wing
sadge
uneven harbor
i just got home, we'll see if I get luckier 😎
wooden wing
ik it isnt the resources, i am 95% sure it is the truck, its got SO many items in it :/
its weird bc my pc was running fine and wasnt lagging with the truck
wooden wing
its fine
hard depot
Hopefully Halbird will have better luck.
uneven harbor
afraid not 😨
wooden wing
is there anyway i can fix it? 🥺
uneven harbor
I am out of ideas personally 😓
hard depot
shoot
wooden wing
guess i gotta restart :(
hard depot
do we have an achievement-ready volcalidus starter save yet? I should make one.
uneven harbor
no, I wasnt going to do a volcalidus version of the one I made due to the increased early game pace
I'll poke you if you make one
hard depot
on it, right after I test the heavy junk!
wooden wing
ig i can continue playing some satisfactory
hard depot
oh my haha!
If I can find it, I'll base it on my bastion basic base so you can go either way.
deft dune
as soon as you enter the DLC, it seems to crash with a overflow. The devs maybe able to load it in their dev environment and see whats causing the issue.
Best I can do is delete the player.sav files and reset your position back to the start at bastion, but taking the ship back just ends in a near instant crash
wooden wing
hmmm, if u could somehow get the devs to help i would appreciate it, but if not ig its fine
wooden wing
for now im on a new save with creative mode so i can gather the items i had
wooden wing
now that i got the gist of my stuff, i now see why my game broke, its bc i had all this in the back of 1 truck
(this isnt the same save, i just used creative mode and grabbed a bit of the stuff i had from shop)
spiral kindle
damn.
@tired heath worth looking into? crashes when entering volcalidus bc items overload?
wooden wing
im almost positive thats why my save is crashing
wooden wing
if u could look into it that would be great
austere wave
I was able to load this save... although we'll see if I can fix it.
I was able to sell that bucket of gems, which cut the memory usage for the save in half from 12GB to 6GB
austere wave
Loads in 5 seconds with 3GB of memory, although that gem bundle is crashtacular. Sold about 450k worth of gems
I'd recommend clearing gems or getting an auto clicker and spending probably a long time dropping them into a pan.
lofty kraken
Hello can anyone please help with my save, i afk'd for 3 hours accidentally and now my theres too many gems and it wont load
hard depot
I can try if you're not running any mods.
hard depot
Oh hey, it loaded! Where're the gems?
hard depot
South hope. I got it picked up, just waiting for it to plonk on the jeweler’s table.
126k coins worth.
hard depot
Hello can anyone please help with my save, i afk'd for 3 hours accidentally and ...
Here's the file with the gems sold, framerate recovered nicely.
lofty kraken
Here's the file with the gems sold, framerate recovered nicely.
Omg Thank you so much!
ivory steppe
Hi. First time having so much ore in a pan I can't sort it and need help.
Where do I find my save file?
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ivory steppe
Awesome.
Which files are needed?
uneven harbor
The whole folder for the save is ideal
ivory steppe
Sorry that I can't just share the folder. Won't let me select it.
Save name "2024"
Oh I should warn whoever fixes that save.
Unfortunately I'm only using a single Hand sorter at the moment.
I was testing if an early game setup with auto fixers would work well.
And unfortunately it worked too well.
austere wave
I can take a look at it
Given it's all raw materials, might make sense to just clear raw... the resources are stuck in the sorter in a way that'll be a huge pain to clean up.
ivory steppe
Oh. I thought that was the save I made before tipping them in.
Let me try find that save properly.
Ok found it in game.
Now to grab that backup save.
austere wave
I melted down most of the iron/gold
ivory steppe
🙏
austere wave
your filters are broken, and I disabled cloud saving, so you may need to reenable that
ivory steppe
Ah. That was probably a while ago then.
I had fixed them in the main save.
Speaking of main save do I just replace the main files with the ones you just sent to fix it all?
austere wave
Yeah, drop them in a save folder, a new one or the old one, and you should be able to load it
ivory steppe
THX again.
Sorry about the save mix up.
austere wave
no worries
inner igloo
How does this work?
uneven harbor
one uploads their save that they overloaded, people with stronger pc try to load it and clear resources
inner igloo
Oh ok
fleet narwhal
Can anyone help? :/ When I entered the game, after 1-2 seconds the game freezes completely. Is anyone able to help? I only have two base (Snowrune and starter base on game)
pearl socket
Gem clog at ember it seems
Someone with the ability to delete gems might have to take this one. His save is marked dirty already so should be easy. Just staying vanilla atm for hotfix testing
austere wave
save shows as achievements enabled to me. Weird... when I reloaded it now says it's dirty. Guess it just was wrong the first time.
That save freezes for me as well, after 10 minutes still nothing.
pearl socket
I got a split second to pause despite setting it to clear on load. Deleted player.sav to spawn at ember and saw an absolute gem mountain. So yeah
Gonna take some quick pausing and the delete gems mod
odd gazelle
I tried that yesterday, the delete gems mod doesn't work for me anymore (it's also marked as outdated in the workshop), and the delete items mod interface can't be opened in the pause menu. Maybe an autoclicker would be able to do the job in the two seconds before the game freezes.
pearl socket
I couldn't get close enough. I got like 3 frames every load in and his gem pile is off in the corner
odd gazelle
I mean an autoclicker to operate the delete items mod interface, to be able to delete the gems before the game freezes (and the mod freezes alongside it), not on the gem pile.
pearl socket
Ahh gotcha
fleet narwhal
Ou, so it's all over the world and it's because of gems?
median drift
the gems are the problem, yes.
odd gazelle
Ou, so it's all over the world and it's because of gems?
Hi, so I got the save to be playable again, but I accidentally deleted ALL of your resources. (that includes bars, ore, gems, fish etc). If you're OK with the save in this state, I can post it shortly, otherwise I could attempt again to delete just the gems.
Guess I will try to do just that until I get your confirmation.
Also, it would be worth mentioning if you had any mods active that would have items associated to them, as me restoring your save without having those mods loaded would lead to those items being deleted forever as well.
odd gazelle
OK nvm, that was easier than I thought. For once having a slow PC helped, as you can open the delete items interface in the loading screen, and it gave me a few good seconds to do it. Deleted 800-something emeralds, 200+ sapphires and rubies. All were getting stuck as shown in the image. I saved the onyxes. Recommended steps to prevent this in the future would be installing a gem sorting and compressing extension to your sorting area, instead of dropping them in a bucket. Also, try not to save while your belts are working. You will spawn at Ember Cradle, the pan you were holding earlier in the Bridgepour harbor (with the gold swords or daggers) is in the back of the truck. I have disconnected the intake pipe in Ember Cradle as well so everything would just stop.
Keep your original save as well, just in case I effed something up.
fleet narwhal
Works! Thank you very much. It's kind of my fault for not separating these gems, because I was focused on the second base and didn't want to think about the first one anymore. Thank you again for your help and time. Have a good night.
odd gazelle
no problem
frosty lark
i have no idea how i'd fix this in a timely manner
ive been attempting to spam delete
deft dune
tried magnet on a stick? then throw them into a pan then onto the belt to get resorted
deft dune
yeah you'll need to start at the edges and go carefully
ideally you'll want to buy the gem compressors when you get the money so you'll only have a few gems to worry about
if achievements are active, then there is little you can do. There are mods or a wand to delete them
deft dune
yeah thats not surprising
odd gazelle
ive been using the want
Use the Delete Items mod (requires HML and Hydrotility++ mods installed as well). It works on Bastion saves. Press F2 in game and select what you want to delete. Gems are under "Resources". Make sure you click "Delete all of selected item" instead of "Delete all of selected category".
austere wave
you could post your save and I'd take a stab at it?
frosty lark
you could post your save and I'd take a stab at it?
I got it fixed thankfully
spiral kindle
Use the Delete Items mod (requires HML and Hydrotility++ mods installed as well)...
Should also work on volcalidus!
austere wave
pc crashed, now my saves are corrupted
#🤔help message
little crescent
Hi guys, can anyone delete the pans full of gems i have? 🙂 i cant seem to use my savefile
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uneven harbor
send the folder named after your save
little crescent
in a dm?
uneven harbor
in this channel preferrably
little crescent
removed my request, i got the file working, letting the game load long enough did the job
pearl socket
I loaded in immediately with clear resources checked
So you didn't break it too badly anyhow
little crescent
nice to now, i just went straight for my pans and sold them to jeweler
clever lodge
hey, any chance I get the resources cleared off of this save. I hope that makes it so I can load it
I waited 30 minutes and no luck
odd gazelle
quick question, do you use mods in your saves?
odd gazelle
gotcha
clever lodge
I do not mind losing all resources, so long as I don't lose my drills and stuff lol
Oh! It could be the insane amount of fish. Forgot to turn the automated fishing off
odd gazelle
That's a distinct possibility. Also, I don't think that I can do anything without mods, I usually use those to clear resources. I'll try and load it, nevertheless. Perhaps some of the other fine ladies and gentlemen here can do something.
toxic coyote
I'm taking a look
clever lodge
thanks. Sorry about that
odd gazelle
It's probably the 3600+ herrings, yeah
toxic coyote
Did you make it in, I have made it nowhere
odd gazelle
Yeah, it loaded, but freezes shortly after.
I can use the Delete Items mod right as it starts loading and it looks like we have enough fish to feed a small country
there are very few gems, though
clever lodge
it might be the fish then, yeah
odd gazelle
So, I guess the question is if anyone is able to delete fish without marking the save as ineligible for achievements
odd gazelle
it might be the fish then, yeah
And this is based on the assumption that you care about achievements on this particular save.
clever lodge
I kinda do, but if it's not saveable with achievements, then that's fine too
toxic coyote
It took 25 minutes but I got past the loading stage, unable to move yet
clever lodge
same happened to me
odd gazelle
Funny, it loads rather quickly for me, bu after it does, all I get to see is one frame of a truck. The advantages of having a 14 years old computer, lol.
toxic coyote
Well i loaded instantly to the truck, but it took 25 minutes for the loading at the bottom to disappear
clever lodge
honestly, if you can kill the fish with mods, even if it disables the achievements, I'm okay with it
big if tho, given how hard it is to get it to load
austere wave
Yeah, that save is cooked for me as well. If you have a backup save I'd be willing to try that, but no dice on the one already posted.
The save loads pretty quick, but whatever is going on causes it to never push out a 2nd frame after loading.
clever lodge
Yeah. I tried doing some poking and testing with some odd methods but I couldn't get it to run correctly or prevent it from giving me a blank world
odd gazelle
honestly, if you can kill the fish with mods, even if it disables the achievemen...
I'm sorry for not getting back to you last night - I was checking other stuff out and fell asleep without realizing. The save I posted here has achievements disabled, as I have used mods to delete a bunch of the fish (everything under 2 weight). Went to South Hope and (tried to) turn off your auto fishing farm by removing the logic repeater, but it looks like the magnets have a mind of their own. There are still a lot of fish left, and perhaps disabling the conveyors would also be a good step if you decide to clear it up.
clever lodge
No way you actually did it
Don't worry, the auto fish farm has a few failsafe yo make sure it's working, but I'll turn it off later
pearl socket
Nothing like destroying your save with a million fish totaling all of 3000 hydrocoins
clever lodge
Lmao
pearl socket
So profitable, so worth
odd gazelle
If you don't feel like dealing with the big ol' mess of fish that's left in there, you can do what I did, and install HML, Hydrotility++ and Delete Items mods, press F2 in game and go to fish category.
pearl socket
Gigglesnorts probably ;p
clever lodge
I'll take a screenshot of that
odd gazelle
No problem. It kinda bums me that something like the Delete Items mod doesn't have a native implementation in-game.
If you want me to, I can clear the rest of the fish, I thought you were using that as a source of income.
Also, T1 and T2 drills are off, and dirt/raw resources have been cleared.
clever lodge
No, the bars are the income. Over 300k per item crafted in a few minutes
The fish were..... doing something
But yeah, I'm honestly surprised there's not an emergency cleanup mode or something
Like, after Real Civil Engineer, Let's game it out, Dangerously Funny and other youtubers did what they did in that game, I thought they'd add something like that
Again, thank you so much. I'll have dinner and check that out after. I really wanted that save back for emotional reasons, since I got 100% achievements in it
odd gazelle
Again, no problem, and sorry to keep you waiting. This is the same as above, but I cleared the remaining 1000+ fish as well.
just in case
jolly pike
Hi, can you help me please? I have too many gems on this save. I was able to fix it with mods but that disabled me from achievements. these files are before i tried to fix it. (sorry for the bad English)
deft dune
Hi, can you help me please? I have too many gems on this save. I was able to fix...
I've cleaned up the two big gem chunks, had to redo the gem processing line to make things easier. You'll need to fix it up a bit when you got on. A few loose gems around you need to pickup but the Achievement Flag is still intact
I've also disabled the drill machines, just turn them back on when your ready
jolly pike
Thanks a lot! 👍
twilit temple
Hello, Could anyone help me with this save please? My gems piled up as well due to a gap with the hopper in the winter biome. I have mods on so no worries on achievements. I appreciate any help!
median drift
don't use hoppers next time
spiral kindle
Funnels*
spiral kindle
A hopper can also like temporarily store stuff before it drops
But just using the game terms so its more clear
median drift
But just using the game terms so its more clear
yeah I just said hopper cause he said it
twilit temple
yeah, sorry it is a funnel
deft dune
yeah, sorry it is a funnel
Where is the build up of gems, I had a look around cannot find any obivous signs
twilit temple
Hello Whitewolfnz, the build up is in the snow biome on top of the mountain. If you follow the road the front left side has the gem compressors
deft dune
Hello Whitewolfnz, the build up is in the snow biome on top of the mountain. If ...
Can you screenshot the problem? I checked out the claim, but there are no gems build up, however mods maybe interfering
twilit temple
Can you screenshot the problem? I checked out the claim, but there are no gems b...
I will try to load the save again, UE4 was crashing everytime I loaded it. For context, running a thread ripper, two rtx 2080 ti foundation editions, and 128gb of ram. I'll try it this afternoon after work. I appreciate you looking into it!
deft dune
I will try to load the save again, UE4 was crashing everytime I loaded it. For c...
yeah, it depends on the crash, is it instant? or does it crash after a long load (2+ hours) ?
If its a instant crash when you start the game, it means there is a bad mod, so disable mods via the workshop. it may help
twilit temple
yeah, it depends on the crash, is it instant? or does it crash after a long load...
It crashes after a long load I didn't clock it, but over an hour
deft dune
It crashes after a long load I didn't clock it, but over an hour
yeah it maybe exceeding the ram/executable size limits. Try disabling some/all mods, you can do this via the workshop if you cannot access the ingame mod settings
The save file seems to load fine for me, but I don't have any mods installed. Loading took about 2-4 seconds