#red-dead-singleplayer | Red Dead Redemption 2 | Page 536

iron pecan Dec 23, 2021, 2:12 AM

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Yeah I am new to the game and I would like to know that too

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 2:21 AM

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Okay So high and low honor have different cut scenes in different parts of the game and I believe if you have high honor you get discounts on things in the stores

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 2:28 AM

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high honor gives some store discounts as well as some outfits, some outfits are low honor. Oh, and high honor the police are more likely to forgive minor crimes

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and yeah some cutscenes are slightly different

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arthur is generally greedier in low honor

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Ooooh

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Minor crimes like Disturbing th e peace

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 2:30 AM

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mhm

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Thanks a lot

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 2:30 AM

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it also impacts the ending

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 2:31 AM

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Sometimes I accidentally aim my guns at people because L2 is to interact with people as well as aim so I always have to remember to put my guns back

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 2:32 AM

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yeah, with so many controls rdr2 has the fault of a lot of actions being the same button

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 2:32 AM

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Yeah it sucks

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I can imagine it’s easier on PC

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 2:32 AM

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its worse

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thats why im getting a controller on xmas

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Dang

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 2:33 AM

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cause with pc

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 2:33 AM

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How is it worse?

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 2:33 AM

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for some reason

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they made the entire keyboard have functionality

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practically every button does something and usually multiple of something

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im gonna bare through it

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just cause i wanna play and i cant wait <3 days for xmas

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 2:41 AM

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Nice!

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I was about to buy it on steam, but I decided to get it on PS4 recently instead because my friend also has it on PS4 and we wanted to play Online together

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Benefit of PC, you don’t need a subscription to play multiplayer

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 2:45 AM

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Like the serial killer that taunts the cops, Dutch can't help but secretly flaunt the location in that conversation
I forget what he says exactly but something about how his mother got the last laugh
The woman who never approved of his career path now keeping safe the fruits of that path... which he can't get to anymore
Idk I could be spitballing but all the pieces fit. It's the one place in Blackwater nobody would ever check. Even Arthur is hesitant to rob graves.
Old Milton never could have guessed that spot.

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 2:50 AM

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It does make a lot of sense. Digging up graves and robbing them is considered extremely disrespectful and I don’t think Milton would ever think that Dutch would dig up his own mothers grave to hide the money

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It really does all fit together

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 2:50 AM

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Which is kinda why I'm in love with this theory

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Because Dutch is always that low down and awful

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He riled up the best of Wapiti's generations and pointed them at the oil field, killing almost everyone
He'd certainly dig up his mother

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Hell, he shot that hostage on the boat in cold blood

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 2:52 AM

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Not to mention leaving Arthur and John to die

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Two people that were basically his sons

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 2:53 AM

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That too

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But like this one Mexican dude I shared a camp with said, betrayal from those closest can be expected
Granted he was talking about the Three Annesberg brothers and their gold but still

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I knew he was low down enough to do that, but using people like that just felt worse

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 2:54 AM

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disconnecting my old r* social club account cause it has a regrettable username

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 2:54 AM

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Maybe just cause I knew he was gonna turn based on John in rdr1

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 2:55 AM

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r* just let me unlink my account ffs

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dont make me jump through suppourt hoops hhhhhhhh

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time to wait

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 3:01 AM

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I just feel like that would seriously be a good place for Dutch to hide the money

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Because as crazy as he is he’s very smart

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:04 AM

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another good place would have been inside a political building

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as nobody would have the gall to accuse the mayor (even indirectly) of hiding the money

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:04 AM

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I was bringing back 2 rabbits and a deer to camp, and I got there and y'know that one cut sense thing with the clouds, yeah that happened and now the food is rotten, does anyone know why this happened other then enemies?

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:04 AM

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also i hate rockstar suppourt oml

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:05 AM

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minor sedge I was bringing back 2 rabbits and a deer to camp, and I got there and y'know tha...

they were probably dead too long

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:05 AM

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Nah, they were fresh when I got there

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:05 AM

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idk then

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:07 AM

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I like ur pfp! I'm trans too! :)

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:07 AM

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eYYYYYY

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Too bad u play on pc :(

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:08 AM

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bruh why the cinnamon toast fuck do i need to contact rockstar suppourt to unlink my social club account

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i just want to play rdr2

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Dang

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:09 AM

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they replied instantly to tell me to email them proof and then they just, vanished

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:10 AM

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R* support seems kinda shitty

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:10 AM

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seems it

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WAIT

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would deleting the account unlink it

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:11 AM

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swanson is drunkly singing in my ear help

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drunkenly*

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:12 AM

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yknow what, i dont even want this account

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i made it back in my edgelord phase when i was like, 14 or 15

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back when i thought communism was the pinnacle of humor

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ill have to wait 2 hours to request a deletion

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:13 AM

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lmfao, glad i havent named any usernames like that

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:13 AM

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if they havent responded by then ill just delete the damn account

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:13 AM

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i guess other then this user which is kinda funny

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:14 AM

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i was gonna name it Smil but it doesnt fit so i named the account GoonBrann

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which is my writing account/new emails name lmao

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:14 AM

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lmao

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What are ur pronouns? Sorry for random question, I didnt want to misgender you

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:15 AM

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she/they :3

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yours?

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:15 AM

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He/They/It's! :)

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:15 AM

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:DDDD

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:17 AM

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i always found it funny that u can never tell the gender of the animals u hunt (other then deer and pronghorn)

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:17 AM

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i think thats so they didnt have to model parts lmao

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:17 AM

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lmfao

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:18 AM

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or to just save space

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:18 AM

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they did model penises on horses

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and made it so they shrank in the cold lmfao

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:18 AM

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LMAO

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:20 AM

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im trying to get the trophy the one with killing 20 bison cuz i want the natives to stare at me in disappointment

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but idk how to other then get the evans repeater

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:21 AM

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shotguns

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can r* support respond already

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:22 AM

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that seems a lot better then the evans repeater

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anyways i think i might go online cuz i've been playing story mode for too long now

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i gotta balance it out

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i also wanna see the winter update thingy

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i havent seen it yet

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:23 AM

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i just wanna be able to play LMAO

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:24 AM

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lmao

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sorry im just rubbing it in ur face lmfao

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:24 AM

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its finee

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:26 AM

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i think one day i might try to get a mic plugged up to actually talk to the stupid idiots on the missions to actually do something for once

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:26 AM

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when i play ill just exist lmao

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:27 AM

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lmao

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:27 AM

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i wanna play as a mountain woman

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:27 AM

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oo

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:27 AM

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hunting, staying out of the action in the woods and mountains

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and selling the results

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 3:27 AM

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minor sedge i think one day i might try to get a mic plugged up to actually talk to the stup...

Oof good luck

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:27 AM

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i've been saving up to get better clothes

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i also made a woman account on another playstation thingy just cuz the woman clothing is so much better

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:28 AM

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im just gonna wear what looks like it'd fit a hunter

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i always play as girls for the euphoria i get lmao

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 3:29 AM

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Any hats that look like Jamie Foxx’s hat in Django Unchained?

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:30 AM

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I don't really get dysphoria, and it seems kinda weird to a lot of other trans folk

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:30 AM

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weak pawn Any hats that look like Jamie Foxx’s hat in Django Unchained?

No, I don't think I do sorry!

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 3:30 AM

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An ok. No worries

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I’ll just go do some research

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:30 AM

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my dysphorias mostly around my body and face

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well, upper body and face

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so i usually just avoid thinking about it and play girl characters

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Yeah, understandable

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 3:32 AM

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ughhhh, rockstar is so slow its not even funny

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ima just play warframe

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 3:36 AM

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i really just lost note taht had the horse name i was gonna get im so mad

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i found it omg

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 3:53 AM

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You aint a real cowpoke unless you can sing the Ballad of Otis Miller by heard

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And that cowardly killer who shot Mr. Miller, has laid poor Otis in his graaaaaave!

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 4:01 AM

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Y’all know east ways to get gold

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 4:06 AM

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In singleplayer? Do treasure hunting

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There's a fuckton of gold to be made

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 4:06 AM

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No multiplayer

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Cause I do bounty hunting and it’s not giving me a lot

tacit plover Dec 23, 2021, 4:08 AM

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@marsh valley you know the easiest treasure hunts for the explorer challenges

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 4:08 AM

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Uhhh

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Go to the obelisk by lake oujawa or whatever

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That one gives 4-6 I think
I havent checked

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That, Jack Hall Gang Map, the statue puzzle

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Lots of easy gold out there

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But go to the burned down town near Horseshoe overlook

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There's a gold bar there

tacit plover Dec 23, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Now that I have horseman out of the way, I’m currently dreading explorer and herbalist

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Herbalist in particular

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Explorer isn't too bad

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Often there's other stuff in the area to nab as well

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It's just going from A to B

tacit plover Dec 23, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Yeah, but that takes time

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Bandit is actually fun

tacit plover Dec 23, 2021, 4:15 AM

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I’d argue it’s the most fun challenge

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 4:15 AM

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It does
I just put on videos on my phone and pull up the interactive map so I can clear out all the stuff

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Oh yeah

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Doing 5 real train robberies is great

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And by real I mean no witnesses because everyone is dead

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Btw locomotives explode

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I did not know this

tacit plover Dec 23, 2021, 4:15 AM

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I learned that there are apparently safes on trains

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 4:16 AM

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Yes!

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There's good stuff in those

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Bring 3 dynamite

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 4:16 AM

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Where can u find the safes?

tacit plover Dec 23, 2021, 4:16 AM

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I always max out on dynamite whenever I use it

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 4:16 AM

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I usually hit the train arriving at Wallace Station for the associated shop robbery

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And that one has safes in the cargo cars

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 4:17 AM

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i made around 150 robbing one train lol

tacit plover Dec 23, 2021, 4:17 AM

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marsh valley And by real I mean no witnesses because everyone is dead

How do you manage that?

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Bring the semiauto

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Camp the train

tacit plover Dec 23, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Shotgun?

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 4:17 AM

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It's all corridors they cant kill you

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Yup

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Browning Auto-5

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You have the advantage on the train, especially if you disable it on a bridge

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 4:24 AM

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rockstar suppourt still hasnt contacted me back

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im probably just gonna delete the old account

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 4:32 AM

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dang

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even after like an hour??

urban kestrel Dec 23, 2021, 4:33 AM

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Hiya guys

zinc geyser Dec 23, 2021, 4:37 AM

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The story is so long im only on 23% (not complaining)

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 4:57 AM

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Enjoy the early bits while they last

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 5:04 AM

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Chapter 2 is the best chapter in my oppinion

sly nest Dec 23, 2021, 5:05 AM

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Bro The free gun guy got scared away while talking to me cus I “disturbed the peace”

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 5:05 AM

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Anything before rat face is my favorite

sly nest Dec 23, 2021, 5:06 AM

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What’s rat face

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 5:07 AM

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My nickname for Micah

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Because I don’t like him

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 5:23 AM

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Chapter 2 is great

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...but we must move on at some point

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I rather like 3 as well
Higher stakes but you still have some time

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Things haven't truly gone to hell yet

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 5:24 AM

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I started rdr2 thinking micah was like trevor or sumn

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 5:24 AM

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Nah he's worse

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Trevor had a sense of loyalty

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A man who valued friends

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Micah only uses people
He has no friends

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Once someone becomes sick or weak they're cut loose

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 5:25 AM

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Trevor has a good heart fr

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 5:25 AM

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He's just... a bit too crazy

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But the heart is what matters right?

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 5:26 AM

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yessir

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 5:26 AM

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Micah's is cold as Mount Hagen

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 5:26 AM

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i just blasted his balls with explosive ammo

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 5:26 AM

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I took out his other eye and half his face

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Finish what Arthur started

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 5:27 AM

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FMicah

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 5:27 AM

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I do like his death

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Man had a lot of fight in him

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The Rhodes Massacre, he kills three men before anybody has time to blink

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I hate him but he's natural gunslinger

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Which is why I love blinding him

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 5:27 AM

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Micah def a top 5 gunslinger

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 5:27 AM

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Good eyes are everything in his line of work
Missing one hurts

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It's the lion who took down the water buffalo but his leg healed wrong

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Living on borrowed time

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 5:28 AM

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No more field depth

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Gotta hurt the aim

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 5:28 AM

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Arthur can't kill him, shore, but he can hit him where it hurts

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His talent

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Plus his whole thing is surviving

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Even he knows he's less likely to survive with that

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Eyes don't heal

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 5:30 AM

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Rdr2 a crazy game

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What you think rdr3 gonna be like

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 5:31 AM

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I hope we get to be Hosea

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There's a man I want to see from the inside
I wanna be in his head

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A clever con who isn't afraid to play it dirty

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 5:33 AM

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Part of me wants a rdr sequel

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I want to know what jack does after his vengeance

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Would love to choose different paths in the game like joining the army, becoming a rancher/gunslinger or reuniting with Charles or sadie

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 5:35 AM

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We sorta know from an easter egg in GTA
He does end up writing a book

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But I'd rather wind the clock further back, escape the modern era

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 5:36 AM

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Ooh ye

minor sedge Dec 23, 2021, 5:39 AM

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hidden moss I want to know what jack does after his vengeance

Me too

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 5:40 AM

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Another concept would be the origins of the gang, just Hosea, dutch, and Arthur. Also John a little further into the game. It'll be about how the gang came to be and it's robberies for the poor then slowly descending into robberies for themselves, the game would end after the Blackwater ferry job

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 5:56 AM

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Alright, im deleting my old account

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Bye bye edgy name

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 5:58 AM

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marsh valley But I'd rather wind the clock further back, escape the modern era

I wanna see Arthur and John as kids, Hosea and Dutch when they were a bit younger

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I wanna know more about Hosea and his partner

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 5:59 AM

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Bessie?

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Yeah Bessie

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 5:59 AM

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Yeah

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 5:59 AM

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I'd love to know more yeah

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Especially the whole "she knew what I was and accepted it" part

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:00 AM

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Definitely

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Like I wanna know about what relationships they had before everything went to shit

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:00 AM

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But yeah I want a Hosea centric game
Because Arthur is his successor, and you could say Arthur passes that torch to John

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:01 AM

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I feel like Hosea alone took so much money from people because he’s a conman

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And a good one at that

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:02 AM

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Jesus

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So I just heard Grimshaw

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Say that Dutch is "The ideal America was set up to create"

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And he leaves her gutshot and dying and didn't cap Micah

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That stings
She was a true believer

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But yeah like
Hearing that story at Shady Belle about how he walks into a random man's wake by accident, reads the name, and suddenly improvs his way into being the man's lost best friend
"Did you rob them"
"Of course not you heartless bastard! We'd shared so many tears... I robbed the priest though."

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Hosea is the perfect conman

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A Trelawny type in the old school, more than willing to throw down to the mats

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But able to bullshit like no other

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:07 AM

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That’s why I don’t understand why Dutch didn’t listen to Hosea about the bank robbery

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Because you have to think at that point they probably robbed so many people of their money

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:07 AM

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Well
More why he didn't listen about Bronte
The robbery could/would have worked if they hadn't spent two missions prepping and killing Angelo

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Hosea said it could be done

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If not for Dutch's pride over being tricked and him indulging in revenge
It still could have worked

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:08 AM

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Heres my theory for a rdr sequel

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After the events of the epilogue of rdr1, Jack marston settles in the ranch, starting a family and leaving his gunslinger past behind him for good, in 1917 the US joins WW1 thus issuing a nationwide draft, which Jack attempts to evade but eventually gets tracked down (he is on the top of the list because of his ability). He serves for some time then returns to his family for a short while, seeing the horrors of war he decides to spend more time with his family. The Government, recruiting Jack as a Special Operative, Holds his family as leverage, thus repeating the cycle his father was burdened by. he goes on dangerous missions then he completes his service. The Government stays true to their promise and returns Jacks family. Jack returns to his ranch and walks around at all the memories he had good and bad, he goes to the porch where uncle died, goes to the fishing spot John took him too when he was a boy, and his Fathers place of death, in front if the barn. The game ends with jack and his family standing by Johns, Uncles, And Abigails grave

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:08 AM

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Maybe the Pinkertons wouldn't have had the time to tighten that noose

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Idk
Chapter 4 is fucked

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You know by the opening that this is when things go wrong

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Maybe we should've agreed to murder Hector Fellows idk

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:09 AM

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If Dutch never bonked his head things would’ve happened differently

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:09 AM

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Dutch getting that concussion fucked things

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I don't think it did permanent damage

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:10 AM

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Dutch knew micah was up to something

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:10 AM

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But I've asked a friend

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He said he was more aggressive and impulsive and didn't think as clearly and long term when concussed

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All of which matches Dutch

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:10 AM

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Well you also have to think that he got that concussion after watching his best friend and brother die

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:11 AM

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No

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The concussion was during the trolley station bit

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Hosea died two missions later

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:11 AM

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Oh yeah it was

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Nevermind

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:11 AM

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I feel like Dutchs mind is a void and every now and again he finds a bit of sense in that void but it doesn’t last forever, soon those bits would stop coming through

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:11 AM

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Got missions messed up

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:11 AM

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That concussion leads him to get enraged and want revenge

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:11 AM

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It’s been a good bit since I’ve played through story

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:11 AM

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and our boy Arthur votes with Dutch

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instead of his real dad, Hosea

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:12 AM

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But in the end Dutch got that final bit of sense, realizing his time has passed

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:12 AM

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That is the moment where things might have shaken out differently

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But once Arthur agrees, the course is locked for destruction

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 6:13 AM

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In chapter 2 he understands that Micah is up to something

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:13 AM

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I feel like that may have changed things but Dutch was still hell bent with Micah supporting his every move

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:13 AM

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It's why he doesn't send him after the Blackwater money

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 6:13 AM

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Mhm

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:13 AM

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He knows Micah would cut and run

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 6:13 AM

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Dutch is a smart person

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:14 AM

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But Micah is an enabler, the guy offering the alcoholic another drink

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 6:14 AM

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He also fuelled Dutches ego

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And took advantage of him

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:14 AM

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No matter how smart, in Dutch's dark moments of the soul, Micah was there to provide assurance that yes, this is the best plan boss

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nevermind that he's dismantling the gang, he's giving Dutch a Yes

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:14 AM

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Mhmm

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 6:15 AM

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He also makes Dutch feel better about being shitty

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Like leaving Abigail

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:15 AM

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And damn Dutch for not being able to recognize Arthur is now filling in for Hosea

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 6:15 AM

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Hosea should’ve been Micah

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:15 AM

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Hosea was definitely what kept Dutch grounded and made him think about his decisions and then Micah comes around and weasels his ass in there and Dutch doesn’t listen as well

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 6:15 AM

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Damn his death scene is tragic

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:15 AM

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Like a politician, its easier for Dutch to make the decision when someone else says what he is privately thinking

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Hosea knew he was a dead man
And had one regret
That his knowledge was obtained at such a price...

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:16 AM

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marsh valley nevermind that he's dismantling the gang, he's giving Dutch a Yes

After Hosea died Micah took his place, unlike Hosea who gave his wise opinions whether they agreed with dutch or not, Micah just assures Dutch so he could get what he wants

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:16 AM

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But he died standing up, and he definitely gave Abigail the time she needed to run

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:16 AM

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Fuck micah man

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:16 AM

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Cause Abigail escaping I think is all up to Hosea distracting the Pinkertons

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Otherwise they would have nabbed her for leverage

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Like Milton does later

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:17 AM

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Oh it definitely was

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:17 AM

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Hosea was the best among us
He was for sure the worst among us

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amogus

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:17 AM

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amogus

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:17 AM

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whoops adhd
But no he's cold hearted but he cares about people

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Hosea has done some twisted shit

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But he's learned that he needs people to care for

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~~basically how my low honor Arthur acts~~

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:18 AM

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@marsh valley whats ur opinion on agent milton

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:19 AM

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Horrible man....... but he has a bit of a point

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 6:19 AM

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Hosea is honestly a g

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:19 AM

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And he explains why Ross is like he is

zinc geyser Dec 23, 2021, 6:19 AM

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hidden moss <@297402438074368002> whats ur opinion on agent milton

Bad, bad men

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:19 AM

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I think Milton was actually a good person imo

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 6:19 AM

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Agent Milton has some fucked up skin

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:19 AM

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hear me out

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:19 AM

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He's the other side of Dutch's conviction

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The antithesis

zinc geyser Dec 23, 2021, 6:19 AM

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hidden moss I think Milton was actually a good person imo

He’s good but, in the story hes protrayed as a bad guy

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:19 AM

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But Milton has abandoned his righteousness for victory

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He will be as bad as the outlaws if it means ending them

zinc geyser Dec 23, 2021, 6:20 AM

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True

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:20 AM

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Which... I can respect

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:20 AM

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He gave the gang several chances to leave without consequences at the price of dutch and he kept offering until they forced his hand

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 6:20 AM

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I just played the level where Sean dies and I got the fright of my life

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:20 AM

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We fight on the same level

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Oh Sean...

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:20 AM

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weak pawn I just played the level where Sean dies and I got the fright of my life

Oh no..

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 6:20 AM

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It was so unexpected

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:20 AM

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That's where it all goes sour

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:20 AM

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I hated how Sean died

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:20 AM

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I love the low honor reaction

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 6:21 AM

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Why did my message get deleted

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:21 AM

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He was very annoying but like

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:21 AM

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Everyone who wouldve sided with arthur got killed

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:21 AM

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Arthur describes his death in the cutscene and whines about no gold

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:21 AM

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A brother or sibling annoying

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 6:21 AM

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Yeah he was one of my favourites I was starting to like him

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:21 AM

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But then in the journal he mourns Sean
Realizing how much he loved him... too late

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Low honor is such conflicting emotions

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 6:21 AM

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It was so sad he didn’t even get a real death

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He just got sniped

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:21 AM

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Sean, Lenny, Kieran,

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:22 AM

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At least he didn't die like Kieran

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 6:22 AM

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Kieran death was horrible

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:22 AM

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And Lenny... right there the future is dead

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 6:22 AM

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I haven’t seen Lenny die yet

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:22 AM

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Arthur's other protege is dead

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:22 AM

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marsh valley Low honor is such conflicting emotions

Low honor Arthur dont give no shits

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 6:22 AM

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That’s gonna be sad

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:22 AM

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i love how alot of the deaths are sudden

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:22 AM

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Lenny hurt my soul because I really liked him

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:22 AM

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Low honor Arthur cares... but all he sees is the violence
His mind is clouded by it all

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A world he can't control that rips people away

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:22 AM

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low honor arthur gives up to the fight with the giant

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:23 AM

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You didn’t get much play time with him but I loved him

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:23 AM

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There is real og respect in low honor saving john

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Dying a bad man who did a good thing

zinc geyser Dec 23, 2021, 6:23 AM

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Bruh, i cant joke about spoiling iron man dying

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:23 AM

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But I prefer the about switch that comes after the doctor

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:23 AM

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high honor arthur going for the gold is the worst ending

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:23 AM

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Low to High

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:23 AM

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marsh valley Low to High

same

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:23 AM

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I disagree

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I don't go for the gold

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:23 AM

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i dont keep arthur like, low low

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:23 AM

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I go for Micah

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I'm there to make him suffer for what he's done

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:24 AM

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i go for low but dips into neutral easily

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i wish micah got redemption

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:24 AM

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I'd burn all the money if I could

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Just to watch the rat scream

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:24 AM

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he feels like he was supposed to be a tragic villain tbh

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:24 AM

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I like what he is

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An unrepentant monster

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:24 AM

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Micah was destined to be a villain

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:24 AM

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A man so awful his own brother swears to kill him

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He's the apex predator of the wild west

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:25 AM

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personally i hate pure evil characters

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:25 AM

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As much as I hate Micah he played his part very well

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:25 AM

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But think

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:25 AM

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His brother was the only one to break the cycle

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:25 AM

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RDR2 is nothing in terms of stakes and story

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Without Micah

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:25 AM

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Micah and his father didnt

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:25 AM

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Micah is the essential counterpoint

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:25 AM

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i just wish micah was portrayed as a tragic villain

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hes still the bad guy, yes

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:25 AM

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I prefer that being underplayed

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:25 AM

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but atleast give him justification

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:26 AM

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There's implication he's just too damaged

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But he's gone past being a victim imo

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:26 AM

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no, tragic villains arent victims

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:26 AM

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He crossed and burned that bridge long ago

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:26 AM

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theyre villains motivated to do bad because of a past issue

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:26 AM

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Not quite what I mean

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:26 AM

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hidden moss but atleast give him justification

His father was a famous outlaw and micah took on and learned from his father who murdered and robbed

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:26 AM

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But like
His father raised him to be like this

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:26 AM

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and, i still wish he got his chance at redemption

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:26 AM

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And at some point before this

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:26 AM

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arthur morgan got his chance and we all know arthur did messed up shit

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:27 AM

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Micah decided he liked this way of living

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:27 AM

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legit arthur only really changes because he got TB

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:27 AM

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And that is a fascinating twist

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Cause he's like Mac and Davey

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But he knows the end is coming

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:27 AM

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and honestly

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it would be better in my opinion if we saw micah actively get his chance

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like, some major event

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:28 AM

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I just believe Micah is broken somewhere deep inside

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:28 AM

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that would have set him down the path of redemption

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but he rejects it

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what arthur could be

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:28 AM

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hidden moss legit arthur only really changes because he got TB

Not really, he changes brcause he knows he’s screwed, which he would find out either way after clemens point

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:28 AM

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From birth or from his father
But he's broken

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I like the idea that an irredeemable man can exist

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Someone truly too far gone

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:29 AM

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Whats yalls theory for jack in rdr3

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:29 AM

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French Foreign Legion

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:29 AM

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i hope rdr3 follows a new story

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:29 AM

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On the run from the FBI

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:29 AM

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hidden moss Whats yalls theory for jack in rdr3

Your ww1 theory was kinda good

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I could see it

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:29 AM

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WW1 but not with the US Army

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The Army killed his pops

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:29 AM

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i honestly hope rdr3 takes place in australia

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:29 AM

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Jack'd hold that grudge and die a draft dodger

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:29 AM

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marsh valley The Army killed his pops

draft

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or the star is sadie

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:29 AM

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Yeah, anything with the government he would hate

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:30 AM

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But I could see him fleeing the country and winding up in the French Foreign Legion

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:30 AM

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in case anyone missed it

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After the events of the epilogue of rdr1, Jack marston settles in the ranch, starting a family and leaving his gunslinger past behind him for good, in 1917 the US joins WW1 thus issuing a nationwide draft, which Jack attempts to evade but eventually gets tracked down (he is on the top of the list because of his ability). He serves for some time then returns to his family for a short while, seeing the horrors of war he decides to spend more time with his family. The Government, recruiting Jack as a Special Operative, Holds his family as leverage, thus repeating the cycle his father was burdened by. he goes on dangerous missions then he completes his service. The Government stays true to their promise and returns Jacks family. Jack returns to his ranch and walks around at all the memories he had good and bad, he goes to the porch where uncle died, goes to the fishing spot John took him too when he was a boy, and his Fathers place of death, in front if the barn. The game ends with jack and his family standing by Johns, Uncles, And Abigails grave

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:30 AM

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Having absolutely ruined his birthright of Beecher's Hope by killing Ross

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Cause you know they won't let that go

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:30 AM

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imagine sadie adler in Australia for rdr3

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:30 AM

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A decorated FBI agent murdered

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:30 AM

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Sadie would just be a bounty hunter

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:30 AM

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marsh valley Cause you know they won't let that go

Ross is a old forgotten man

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:31 AM

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Unless Archer gets the case and buries it... he liked John Marston

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:31 AM

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maiden sentinel Sadie would just be a bounty hunter

that would be fun tbh

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:31 AM

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Retired don't mean forgotten

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He founded the Bureau practically

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:31 AM

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playing as a bounty hunter, and her redemption is her learning to deal with her past properly

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:31 AM

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hidden moss that would be fun tbh

I mean it could but she would only be a bounty hunter

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:31 AM

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and?

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bounty hunting is fun

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:31 AM

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He's on the ground floor when the Federal Government creates the Bureau
His murder gets investigated

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:31 AM

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Very true

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:32 AM

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or if we just got an rdr3 in australia

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make the star ned kelly for all i care

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:32 AM

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And unless Archer, who honored the deal with Marston and didnt show up to kill him catches the case
Jack is a fugitive from the law

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:32 AM

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I’d like to see Sadie truly happy again, but it’s very possible she’s happy being alone and bounty hunting

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:33 AM

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But equally I'd like to see Jack catch that break
That the lead investigator knows its him... and knows Ross deserved it

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:33 AM

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marsh valley And unless Archer, who honored the deal with Marston and didnt show up to kill h...

Archer would definitely drop the case, all he would see is a boy getting vengeance for his father

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:33 AM

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Exactly

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He thanked John for his service

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:33 AM

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or, hell, make rdr3 a preprequel

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:33 AM

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He honored his end of the deal

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A man making right

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:33 AM

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Dont stop jack from getting draftef though

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make the star dutch

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:33 AM

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Ross just followed his mentor and stuck the knife in

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It's what Milton would have done if Arthur had turned cooperator

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I never wanna be Dutch

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:35 AM

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Fuck Dutch

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Actually

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:35 AM

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Cause I feel like Dutch has always been manipulating others
Hosea is the one I wanna be
Cause like Arthur and John after him, he cared a lot

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I subscribe to the theory Dutch has always been this bad, but the events of 1899 split him open

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Let all the evil spill out

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:36 AM

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Dutch did his best to hold the evil in

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Like he said on the mountain you cant fight nature

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:36 AM

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But idk if that was for his benefit to look good or to protect others

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or if hes just never suppressed it and always been lowkey shitty

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Like Colm's plan fails because Dutch doesn't go looking in a rage...
But also that might be because I vanish for a week going hunting

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Micah was for sure behind that one tho

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I felt like that was him trying to sell Arthur out and thin out the gang

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 6:38 AM

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Definitely

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:38 AM

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marsh valley I felt like that was him trying to sell Arthur out and thin out the gang

Micah definitely saw arthur as a threat

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:38 AM

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Hosea too

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And he noticed Hosea's cough
His old age, weakness
And kinda goes after him about it

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:39 AM

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That Colm fiasco was one of Micahs only chances to get rid of arthur without looking sus

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:39 AM

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And Pearson under Micah's coaching conveniently has a parlay offer...

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no

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Micah talks to them
They set it up so Pearson gets the idea they thought of it themselves
And Dutch buys it

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Arthur gets got while Micah keeps Dutch from making a dumb move and trying to save Arthur, getting them all caught

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:40 AM

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Because there would be no way colms men would let Pearson go

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:40 AM

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No way in hell

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Pearson is great, and I wouldn't trust not to lose something valuable to him in a fight to the death, but...

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They'd kill his ass easy

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:42 AM

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Although he has no gunslinger abilities, like strauss he is loyal

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Remember that strauss died in custody and never said anything

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:44 AM

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Surprising considering Arthur boots him out

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But Strauss redeems himself in never talking a word

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He did some shit
But he owned it in the end, never tied a noose around anyone's necks

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I can respect it

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:45 AM

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Strauss knew his work was wrong and shameful so he didnt fight arthurs boot

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Im exited for GTA6

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Or RDR3

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or both if all studios work on it

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:47 AM

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Idk about more GTA

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But like

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Nobody makes wild west games anymore

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:47 AM

#

ong

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:47 AM

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the genre is out of style and ripe for a fresh rendition

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rn Rockstar is the only one who seems to be following it up

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and I need more

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Like WWII games
Popular back when games looked like shit, went out of style
Now we get new renditions

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:48 AM

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Rockstar just living off of sequels at thus point

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:49 AM

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Years of military shooters make me crave that gunslinger you vs a few lawmen kind of life

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They kinda are yeah

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Not that they do an awful job with sequels per say

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Max Payne 3 was good

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:49 AM

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not complaining but one of these days they need to cone up with something fresh

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:49 AM

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And I guarantee you some of that tech went into RDR2's death animations

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It just feels similar idk how to put it
Aside from the open world and being able to matrix dodge, a lot is the same

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:50 AM

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I never played max payne

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:50 AM

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I recommend it

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Good series, and Rockstar made the third one

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Which is not the same as 1 and 2, but it looks better

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 6:51 AM

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Are the other games by rock star good

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I’ve heard of gta V

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:51 AM

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I've only played Max Payne, some GTA, and RDR

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:52 AM

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weak pawn Are the other games by rock star good

Rdr, gta, max payne, and bully are a few very well known franchises by rockstar

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:52 AM

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But the way enemies clutch wounds and die, that's all Max Payne 3 tech
Good stuff

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And for pc, the good pinpoint aiming out of that game too

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:52 AM

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marsh valley But the way enemies clutch wounds and die, that's all Max Payne 3 tech Good stuf...

funny asf when u shoot their balls

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:52 AM

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Oh yeah

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:52 AM

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them clutching lmfaooo

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:52 AM

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There's tactics to shooting a guy in the knees/balls

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And then getting the prone headshot when they fall

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Or have the LeMat and just shoot em in the chest

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2 ideally

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12 is better than 6 in the chamber
And 18 is better than 9

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:54 AM

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Lemat and the modern pistol are overpowered

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:54 AM

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Plus a sawn off shotgun in two revolvers

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See I'm okay with that

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Watched any Westworld?

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 6:54 AM

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Nope

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 6:54 AM

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The LeMat makes me feel like the Man in Black

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Hang on

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 7:40 AM

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Honestly i really love the M1899 Pistol

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 7:41 AM

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Off topic

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I love Albert Mason

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Even if I hunt more than he'd like

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Arthur takes such a joy in his quests

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Money isn't even a concern he's just having fun

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Man hands him a wolf photo and he just has this childlike grin and walks off

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 7:42 AM

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He was cool

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You can also see his photos in the saint denis gallery

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 7:43 AM

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Yeah I noticed that only last run

maiden sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 7:43 AM

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I loved his side missions

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 7:43 AM

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There's just such a pure joy in Arthur in those

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He does so love nature

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 7:43 AM

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Albert mason reminded me of bob ross

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He has the same hair and everything

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 7:44 AM

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Yeah that

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Except with 50% more fear and 100% more trembling

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Albert knows nothing about the wilds, but he's determined

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 7:45 AM

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I liked the mission in the swamp

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Where your in the boat

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Taking pics of the alligators

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 7:45 AM

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Man loves flirting with death

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 7:45 AM

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Fr

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 7:45 AM

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But he's genuinely in it for the nature/science

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 7:45 AM

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Yea

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 7:46 AM

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or photography

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And that's what Arthur so loves

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He's constantly amused this babe out of the cradle photographer is out here tryna take pictures of wolves

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And impressed

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The man lacks knowledge but he has spirit

#

And in a different way, so does Arthur
Just he knows little of civilized living and science and such

visual sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 7:50 AM

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Hello guys, i have a question, i just bought the game and i don't really familiar with all the things, does have a high honor or low honor will affect the story? Currently 33% story

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 7:51 AM

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Yup

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It will for sure change the story

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From small journal entries down to what Arthur says in the cutscenes sometimes

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But you'll see the biggest difference in chapter 6

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I encourage low honor tho

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I had the most fun with being a bad guy

visual sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 7:53 AM

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I thought having low honor will make the story less interesting and some things will not go smooth as i thought it would

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 7:53 AM

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I wouldn't say less interestin

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Just

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Think a man more in tune with his emotions vs a man who is thorougly jaded

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that's the immediate difference

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But I find depth in both low and high honor

#

Arthur Morgan is a complicated character no matter how you play him

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~~but ending with high honor is best, I just do low until a certain point, which I'm sure youll figure out~~

visual sentinel Dec 23, 2021, 7:56 AM

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Ok, thank you my g

weak pawn Dec 23, 2021, 8:04 AM

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hidden moss Rdr, gta, max payne, and bully are a few very well known franchises by rockstar

What’s bully?

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Is that another open world one

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:07 AM

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Bully the game

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idk what the real title is

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but like
Youre some schoolkid or something

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:23 AM

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Stagecoach stealing. Fence them for like, 45$ a piece or something like that.

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Blue stages, 4 door stages, and certain full size wagons are 45$.

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one more thing on something else I guess

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yo can also take the stage by the emerald ranch train station

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quick 45

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Is this another "Michael is in Witness Protection" theories

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:33 AM

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Nah this has some evidence backing it up

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:33 AM

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no the evidence is you take 42k at the end of the get the money ending

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:34 AM

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And that aint the Blackwater money

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That's the new money

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:34 AM

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that's the blackwater money, it's added to the 20k of the blackwater money

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:34 AM

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Which Micah takes

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Nah the Blackwater take was 150,000

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:34 AM

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what evidence is there to this exactly

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:34 AM

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Which, at least 66k was kept by Micah and Dutch

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Uh, the explicit word of Micah that he has the Blackwater take

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And John, Charles, and Sadie split it up

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The cave money is the stuff we've been collecting all game

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:35 AM

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ah

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:35 AM

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Feel free to compare it to the gang accounts tally in the journal

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It's roughly the same

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:36 AM

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never checked the tally

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it's hard to read

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:36 AM

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So that leads to where did Dutch hide it
and he hid it in a grave

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:36 AM

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it's really not like, just 50k or so

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:36 AM

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Somewhere nobody looks even as the town expands over the next 8 years

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it's like 40k something

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:36 AM

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wait so you're saying the blackwater money was never taken

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:36 AM

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Nope

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:37 AM

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did they fear blackwater that much

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:37 AM

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It stayed there until Dutch and Micah's boys got it back sometime around 1907

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Yes

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:37 AM

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buh

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:37 AM

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Yup

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:37 AM

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and to think John just walks into town

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:37 AM

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See, we could've just sent Sadie and Trelawny

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And all escaped

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Yup
Then again he isn't entirely made

#

Law enforcement kinda missed him for a while

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Until 1911 anyway

#

But yeah
His own mother's grave is a genius place to hide the money
Nobody would check it, or even assume someone could be that low

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:39 AM

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I can't remember there being any evidence he said where the money was. More or less.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:39 AM

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None exactly

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This is supposition yes

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:40 AM

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I remember talk, but nothing firm. I swore Arthur knew

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:40 AM

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But it makes sense

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Arthur knows nothing

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Micah might know, given he was along during the escape and hiding....
But he also asks Dutch to tell him so he can grab it

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:40 AM

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man this is the one layer of the game I kinda just let be abstract. Is there really more to the money thing?

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:41 AM

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Idk
Dutch talking about his mother being buried in Blackwater, it just fits
Somewhere they'd never look, and he'd remember where

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:41 AM

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like how much of the money thing am I missing? I get what Dutch wanted asides from the money. He wants to lead a political revolution.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:41 AM

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All of this is theory
But I think the pieces fit

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Well, Dutch just wants to play king with his round table of knights

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But the money is how that happens in his mind

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:42 AM

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but I don't get the money. I'm asking like, what is the deal with the blackwater money? Is it just not touched upon much?

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Is it the source of the conflict?

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:42 AM

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Not a lot until we lay hands on it in the epilogue... and every time Micah mentions it

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But it's why we ended up in the mountains

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the 5 million dollar take in today money from the ferry job

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:43 AM

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I know that. I want to know like, the game is more about the camp's share of the current take, not the ferry job?

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:43 AM

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that Dutch hid somewhere and now we can't get it back

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:43 AM

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that's left mostly a mystery right?

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:43 AM

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Yeah the money of this game is all what we've been making

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From the train job to the train job

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That's the big bag in the chapter 6 ending

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~~I wish I could've burned it all just to watch Micah cope~~

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:45 AM

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Micah wouldn't cope if we shot him

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let alone if you burned the money

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Wishing all the other members like lenny, sean, grimshaw, sadie, and charles stayed with us so we could ratio micah

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:45 AM

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Worry not

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:45 AM

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I find Micah too entertaining to kill

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:45 AM

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I think Arthur is reunited with them all

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:45 AM

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He really thinks he's Trevor

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:46 AM

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marsh valley I think Arthur is reunited with them all

sadart

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:46 AM

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Sean, Hosea, Lenny, Grimshaw, Hamish, Buell, all of them

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:46 AM

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sadart

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I'm dying.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:46 AM

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~~I got Buell killed but we got to go find Hamish together~~

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It's okay

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:46 AM

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I got TB

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Got it from a man for ten bucks.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:47 AM

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I cried when Buell died

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He was such a good horse...

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:48 AM

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yeah

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I let my black Arabian die

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Bro

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That horse had at least 200 hours on him

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never used another horse as Arthur

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he might be the best horse I ever had

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never struggled around gators

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I actually am really sad thinking about it

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I kinda don't wanna buy another one because of how much time I had on that one horse

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it's the only time I ever did that

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:49 AM

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Buell was the horse that matched my stats

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the boosted "I did the ten challenges" stats

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9 or 10

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idk

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 8:50 AM

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I had the Tennessee Walker from Colter.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:50 AM

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Ahhhhh
That was the horse I died with first run

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But, I spare it now

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:51 AM

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I sell it

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it's really slow

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like legitimately too slow to travel cross country with like I do

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 8:52 AM

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But in my first playthrough, I think I had an Hungarian halfbred.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:52 AM

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Off topic sorry
But I love the turnaround Swanson makes

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When everything goes to shit
The Reverend has achieved clarity and is doing his best
And going low to high honor, you join him in that

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 8:53 AM

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Yep.

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I also love how John also goes to low to high honor.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:54 AM

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He pulls his head out of his ass

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And I love it

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How he’s such a shithead for half the game

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 8:55 AM

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Yeah, he is.

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Especially to Abigail in chapter 2.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:55 AM

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And then he gets a series of knocks

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Like shit

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His brother is more a father to his kid than he is for a long time

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:55 AM

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nah not low honor they just actually redeem themselves

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:55 AM

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Well
“Brother”
But what does it matter
To Jack Arthur is always Uncle Arthur

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It’s the thing about the gang that truly made it different. Even if the reasons were lies, it was still some kind of family for a long time

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:56 AM

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what I do not like about low honor ending is that you fail to harm Micah

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:57 AM

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Yeah…

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:57 AM

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and the lower your honor

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:57 AM

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In low honor it’s best to be spiteful and die for John

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:57 AM

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the worse it feels

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:57 AM

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Be all jumping on a grenade

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In high honor

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You can get revenge

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In the burning hell of the camp

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:57 AM

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ehh

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it feels painful

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:57 AM

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It isn’t the mountain ending, but it is the cycle of revenge that John and Jack follow

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:58 AM

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like it's a short scene

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 8:58 AM

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I feel like the option "Go back for the money" should have been just named "Go back for Micah".

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:58 AM

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but it's the most painful of them all

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:58 AM

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Yeah I think they mistitled that

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Cause I’d happily burn the money

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Just to fuck over the betrayers

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 8:58 AM

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And in the process you go back for Micah, you buy John more time.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:58 AM

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It’s not about the money
It’s about sending a message

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Oh yeah

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:58 AM

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so you burn the money in that ending?

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:59 AM

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If you charge down that hill

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You attract every Pinkerton and Van der Linde man in five miles

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 8:59 AM

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marsh valley Ahhhhh That was the horse I died with first run

For horses I just use the American Standardbred horse you can buy when you go to the stable with Hosea in chapter 2

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:59 AM

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John for sure escapes

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Because you go out in a blaze of glory

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:59 AM

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@atomic flame very plain

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 8:59 AM

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Yep.

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 8:59 AM

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no fox trotter?

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 8:59 AM

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Nobody is following John now

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 9:00 AM

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hidden moss no fox trotter?

I'm going to be honest I don't care what horse I use

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the standardbred max bonding is actually decent

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:00 AM

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Which is sad
You don’t get the “you’re my brother” line
But so much of that is already said if you’re ending in high honor in previous missions.

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:00 AM

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Imagine just being John in chapter 6,you're trying to run away and all you hear is your brother screams: "DUUtcccHHH! MIiCAAhhh"

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:00 AM

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It’s made very clear that John and Arthur are feeling that brotherly love

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They’re all they’ve got, plus Charles and Sadie

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“Micah I’ve been waiting to kill you!!!”

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 9:01 AM

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Charles is a very interesting character

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:01 AM

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atomic flame the standardbred max bonding is actually decent

Rachel is even better, and you can buy an Appaloosa for about 450$ with more stamina.

atomic flame Dec 23, 2021, 9:01 AM

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Bill is just well.. Bill

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:01 AM

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I do love Charles

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Bill is a pit Bull

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:01 AM

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Too bad Javier was in shock the entire time.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:01 AM

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Constantly abused

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Always loyal to the point of extreme violence

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:02 AM

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I gave Bill all I had. :(
Hair pomade.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:02 AM

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Javier was too torn to act, he never attacks Arthur and John

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I gave bill shit for following along

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But… he defended my TB

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Micah is a twisted man, only insulting the weak

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Meanwhile I antagonize anyone who gives me shit even if they can kick my ass

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The Virgin Rat vs the Chad Cowpoke

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:03 AM

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Imagine if Arthur vs Micah wasn't an fist fight, it would have been an duel instead.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:04 AM

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Oh Arthur would blow his head off

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:04 AM

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@cold parcel Javier and Rdr1-ier are two different people. I have a hard time crossing that line into saying they are two characters.

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Aren't

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sorry

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:04 AM

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hidden moss <@366636426831331329> Javier and Rdr1-ier are two different people. I have a har...

Well that's disappointing. shock

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Oh.

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:04 AM

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he is pretty shellshocked tho

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:04 AM

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He duelled Flaco Hernandez, Billy Midnight, Emmett Granger, and Jim Boy Calloway

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Micah is a footnote compared to some of those names and their reaction times

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:05 AM

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hosea

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:05 AM

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it's cause he expected the gang to be as tough as nails as another fellow greaser and they aren't

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they're not really... Traumatized by the horrors of the Mexican American wars

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:06 AM

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There’s that yeah

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:06 AM

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hidden moss <@366636426831331329> Javier and Rdr1-ier are two different people. I have a har...

I imagine since he made very powerful enemies he made bad friends and worse decisions that led him to become less like his old self

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and willing to work to change for a better culture

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:06 AM

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It would have been fitting if John killed Micah with his cover pose. Would have been badass.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:06 AM

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I should’ve used sawn odds

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:06 AM

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He is, he was raised in it. In a historical perspective his character is driven by Mexican dissent

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:06 AM

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But I used LeMats

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Arthur’s LeMats

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:07 AM

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and it's a sad thing to watch him be so shellshocked, but my reaction is maybe sick comedy to it

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:07 AM

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I’m honestly not sure

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If it’s better to kill him

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:07 AM

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you gotta feel for bill too

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:07 AM

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Or hand him over to the hangman

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:07 AM

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I used Arthurs Schofield revolver.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:07 AM

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Bill can die of natural causes as I understand

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You just don’t save him

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:07 AM

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All bill ever wanted was to be treated like a friend

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:08 AM

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Bill could have been just sent to the gay zone.

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:08 AM

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@hidden moss bill is really tough. He's probably the toughest man on the planet

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I give him a lot of props for being able to fight and willing to just rough it through hell.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:08 AM

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…all those rape charges against his gang, I hope it wasn’t Bill doing it

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:08 AM

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marsh valley …all those rape charges against his gang, I hope it wasn’t Bill doing it

Oh boy.

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:09 AM

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Bill is gayyyyyyyy

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so gay

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:09 AM

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marsh valley …all those rape charges against his gang, I hope it wasn’t Bill doing it

he was friends with a rapist

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:09 AM

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cowboykekw

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:09 AM

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Could be they didn’t just go after the women with Bill in charge…

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I’m sorry
But Bill was never meant for command

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:10 AM

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I feel like Arthur would have make Dutch come to his senses if he just said the right thing.

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:10 AM

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what was the reason for bills dishonorable discharge

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:10 AM

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hidden moss what was the reason for bills dishonorable discharge

Being gay

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“Conduct unbecoming”

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:10 AM

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Bill definitely “had it rough”

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YeeHawAinsley

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:10 AM

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Heavily implied it’s because he likes men, which nothing wrong with it now but in 1890 not so much so

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:11 AM

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hidden moss <:YeeHawAinsley:649414717563076608>

cowboykekw

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:11 AM

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what are you talking about? You know bill is a war veteran with plenty of combat experience. He's evil, too.

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he is the only person who doesn't fear guarma

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think about that

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he doesn't fear blackwater.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:11 AM

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…he’s a prize idiot but he’s seen this shit before

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:11 AM

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he fears only himself

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:11 AM

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Although Arthur performs just as well without military training

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:11 AM

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and yes a prize idiot.

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Bill just does as he is told

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:12 AM

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And remember, we could have gotten respect from Bill if we knew an difference between an man and an sheep.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:12 AM

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But I guess Arthur has always been a part of Dutch’s little army

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:12 AM

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Good in combat, which is all that matters

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:12 AM

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They’re both just soldiers in the end

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I do so love Guarma even if it’s short

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That turn of the century modern warfare hits hard as fuck

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:13 AM

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bolt action riffl

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and cattle gub

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:13 AM

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Getting organically dropped into the Caribbean hell’s cape

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Running from Wild West problems

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I so did not expect that

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But it works…

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:13 AM

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yeah I wish it was free roam

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:13 AM

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Tahiti would have been better tbh.

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:13 AM

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but otherwise it's nice

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:13 AM

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I wish it was free roam too…

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I tried cooking meat I harvested

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No dice

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You can’t cook meat on desert survival island

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So restrictive but the vibes… the vibes….

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:14 AM

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Have you tried cooking faith?

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:14 AM

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I haven’t but I imagine it turns into Swanson’s morphine

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Pure copium

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:14 AM

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true

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:14 AM

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Works.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:14 AM

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To ignore Dutch killing women

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:15 AM

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why does dutch hate women

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:15 AM

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Not saying we shouldn’t have gotten our money back from that old crone… but damn he didn’t even get the gold back from her dead body!

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:15 AM

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Everytime Dutch enters into blackwater, an woman dies.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:15 AM

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Killed an old grandma and left the gold this man was on some serious head trauma

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:15 AM

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yeah like what is his concept of morality

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:16 AM

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Cmon Hosea and Lenny’s deaths should’ve been worth 250 a piece instead of NOTHING

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:16 AM

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Are women like, material objects for his view on "Americanism"

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:16 AM

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Fuckin Dutch

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Hosea is better

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:16 AM

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no

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Hosea is a yes man

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:16 AM

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Nah, it's obviously LENNEEEEEEE

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:16 AM

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Hosea is the questioner

#

Arthur is the yes man initially

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Always backing the play while Hosea doubts

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:17 AM

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not that kind

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the other kind

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:17 AM

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How you mean

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:17 AM

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cold parcel Nah, it's obviously LENNEEEEEEE

You are wrong
It’s YENNEL

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:17 AM

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I just.. he never truly asks Dutch anything of substance on the manner

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:18 AM

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ynnEl

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:18 AM

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I think Hosea always knew how far he could push Dutch

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:18 AM

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he generally thinks of it more while he's brooding over coffee

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not when he's planning with Douche

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:18 AM

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So as not to come across as doubtful and steer him in the right direction

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When they’re planning together who knows

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:18 AM

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I wish we knew more from those Callander boys.

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:18 AM

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the one person who actually does confront Dutch is Arthur

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:19 AM

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But when Hosea has doubts he’s trying to guide them around Dutch’s god complex

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:19 AM

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and John, in other ways

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:19 AM

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Uncle did confront Micah one time.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:19 AM

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But that’s prolly cause they’ve just been partners so long

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:19 AM

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At one point yeah you're completely right.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:19 AM

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Arthur is more desperate in his questioning. He has to step up and represent his people now

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:19 AM

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I have ate food and smoked weed while listening to convos

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:20 AM

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Cause he’s not sure Dutch cares about Jack no more

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:20 AM

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a lot of them, I do agree

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:20 AM

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Wêëd

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:20 AM

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I just think there is a big dissolving element in the gang as we see it

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:20 AM

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Good shit

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:20 AM

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like how Hosea broods over coffee

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:21 AM

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I forgot to give Dutch the pipe when I was Arthur, now I have it as John.
I can't do jack with the pipe.

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:21 AM

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and how Dutch antagonises any women he's close to but the hag

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the whipping bitch

#

antagonises Uncle

#

Who is an amazing leader

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:21 AM

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Uncle has it all figured out tbh

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:21 AM

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He gives people faith

#

He doesn't prod them

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:21 AM

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Uncle has an plan.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:21 AM

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Everyone gives that old man shit but he knows what’s what

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…except for which coaches are Cornwall’s

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:22 AM

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The one shot kid even fought Cornwall men.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:22 AM

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Did pretty good as I recall

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:22 AM

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marsh valley …except for which coaches are Cornwall’s

Shhhh.

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:22 AM

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what nobody realizes is that the house is mostly uncle's plan

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:22 AM

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Shh.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:22 AM

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He also got me an early Carcano so it’s all good

#

Oh yeah

#

The house is all uncle

#

And to his credit

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:23 AM

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I cant bully Micah anymore since he dead, so I now gotta bully Uncle.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:23 AM

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He protects it and the Marstons with his life

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Don’t bully that man

#

He dies for Jack and Abigail

#

And Beechers

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:23 AM

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Mhm.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:23 AM

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Truly an MVP

#

Despite all his gross, crude, nasty shit

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:24 AM

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I have a hard time bullying uncle.

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When I'm not working, I'm uncle

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:24 AM

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The maniac can actually do something when shit gets serious.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:24 AM

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Fuck yeah Uncle is my ideal

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:24 AM

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I literally live by his philosophies anyways I genuinely like the man

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:24 AM

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Thinking takes a lot of energy

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:24 AM

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Does it pay well?

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:24 AM

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no

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:24 AM

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Coming up with theories as to where Dutch hid the money

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Well… if I can find the Blackwater money, yes

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But otherwise no

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:25 AM

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the blackwater money was us guys

#

we are the money

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:25 AM

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L u m b a g o

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:25 AM

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The black water money was the friends we made along the way

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Most of whom are dead

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:25 AM

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I got lumbago, John. It's real serious.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:25 AM

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Poor Kieran

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:25 AM

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mjfeels

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:25 AM

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I do like him

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:26 AM

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Kieran was good.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:26 AM

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He got roped into working for Colm

#

He just liked horses…

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Which I respect

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:26 AM

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Kieran was a good horse trainer. He was scared of people, and he liked animals

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:26 AM

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Horses are everything in this game

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:26 AM

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so he was probably a good kid all things considered.

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I don't doubt much about him

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:26 AM

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“He saved my life and I could not save his”

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:26 AM

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I just wonder what he really did to be in colms gang

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:26 AM

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One of the best high honor lines

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:26 AM

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I feel like Kieran should have escaped the Van Der Linde gang tho when he had the chance.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:27 AM

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He got forced into it

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Bystander conscripted

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With Colm

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:27 AM

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he escapes they look for him as a prisoner. He'll talk, sadly

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:27 AM

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Should have just moved out the country.

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:27 AM

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you either take him and explain this to him as you go, or you don't do it at all. And the gang was not there yet

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:27 AM

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I think he gets wasted when Jack comes back and they find him

#

I don’t recall seeing him after that

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:28 AM

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like as a person who understands some idea of good authority

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:28 AM

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I remember him saying sorry to Abigail.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:28 AM

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Of course he’d talk, he ain’t outlaw material. But Colm didn’t care it’s all numbers with him

#

They trail loose ends like confetti

#

Kieran almost lost his balls and he still liked Dutch’s Boys better

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:29 AM

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Dutch and the boy's even remembered his name.

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:29 AM

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you can't really.. let people out of your life knowing they won't rat.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:29 AM

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Cause he didn’t get hassled too hard once he found his niche

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:29 AM

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you have to be sure, at least. If this crazy bandit life is the way you go down.

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:30 AM

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Some people will stay solid

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Others aren’t built like that

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I’m not

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I got people who are

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:30 AM

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@cold parcel he apologies to her but he also flirts with all of the gang, he's pretty lonely.

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all of the ladies

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Mary is fond of Arthur

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:30 AM

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Kieran is the equivalent of the average gamer dragged into the mess

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:30 AM

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he doesn't.. do what he should

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:30 AM

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Arthur is also so jaded

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Losing a lover and kid

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:31 AM

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but alls well ends well yeah he's jaded lol

marsh valley Dec 23, 2021, 9:31 AM

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He’s deeply broken inside

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They died for $10

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And he died for barely double that

cold parcel Dec 23, 2021, 9:31 AM

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Now Sean died because of Bill.

hidden moss Dec 23, 2021, 9:31 AM

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Arthur is pretty broken man

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but he's a warrior