neat mural
Honestly i have no idea
#red-dead-singleplayer
amber halo
Anyone know if the oil wagons come back after "Pouring Forth Oil"?
twilit path
Howdy guys
amber halo
Arthur at "Average" weight looking like he jogs 5 miles a day and lifts quite regularly. HAHAHAHA At perfect he looks like a long distance runner-SKI-NEE!
twilit path
I need people to join my server this is my 1st time on here anyone want to join
amber halo
Weird af how all the horses I've had, well after level 4 bonding (which I think isn't the highest) push their heads all over like they've never had reigns on. Strange. So I check the disposition-"Calm". HAHAHAHA F'n weird. NONE of the npc's do that.
olive mango
I thought the epilogue in rdr2 would take me more into new Austin but it didn't. After the game there really isn't much to do there in that space right?
amber halo
Shit-just watched a vid of gamers reactions to the ending. GAWD started f'n balling.
Whew these guys sure th did an amazing job. DAM!
@hidden mossYou have to win a race.
@olive mangoI'd just look. Under every rock, everywhere.
amber halo
So I know nothing about the series other than I tried Revolver years ago and didn't like something about it. I can't remember.
But I'm curious; Is this the best written story of them?
amber halo
"It's worth more than you".
$155.00 (which is vastly less than any of the pots won.)
F'n stupid. I mean either make it insanely worth something or change the dialog in the game. That's just stupid.
round hedge
I thought the epilogue in rdr2 would take me more into new Austin but it didn't....
John canonically never got into new austin
until 1911
hybrid igloo
What about 1907?
summer garnet
"It's worth more than you".
$155.00 (which is vastly less than any of the pots ...
155 dollars is alot for that time its basically a 1899 rolex but i also think it shouldve had more worth
summer garnet
What about 1907?
that was jarthur morgstan
round hedge
What about 1907?
no
I mean, the writers were stupid enough to actually have a mission with Sadie there
because they completely forgot that John never went to new austin in RDR
gray wasp
What about 1907?
That was Jim Milton
John never went past Blackwater because he cant swim
amber halo
@summer garnetOh I know that but it's not a lot when we find $500 gold bars and $50 bags of jewelry. It's not a lot for the game at all actually. That can be made in about 5 days in game with no robberies, hold ups, shooting, fighting, simply gardening and crafting.
It was a poor job by the team that's all. Stupid phrase is all, unneeded.
Might anyone know if there's any unannounced extra benefit to using the tent to sleep in? Kinda like there's a little bit more than bonding level 4.
That's actually a thing I figured out must be real, a bit more after 4.
summer garnet
<@!765684449483554868>Oh I know that but it's not a lot when we find $500 gold b...
Couldnt agree more. And for the tent thing theres no benefits its just there for comestic
amber halo
$155 in 1900 is about $5,500K today. HAHAHAHA That's a cheap rolex. It was just a useless line.
@summer garnetYa I was wondering. Still kinda wondering. Like there's a little extra for bonding. Every horse I get to level 4 I immediately make them rear up as my celebration and almost all of them buck me instantly. But after that they don't. So there must be a tiny, little bit extra hidden in there. Heh.
hybrid igloo
John never went past Blackwater because he cant swim
:troll:
amber halo
All the scars on Arthur's face when he's clean shaven. HHmmmm
I'd like to see the back story for them. Although aren't they in RDR??
Oh wow. Just noticed something....after about 700 hrs or so...I somehow magically, or conveniently, have a rifle on my back in camp when not so good looking Kieran shows up carrying something personal.
So I guess that's always the tip off that there's gonna be a fight.
gray wasp
Oh wow. Just noticed something....after about 700 hrs or so...I somehow magicall...
what?
amber halo
@gray waspI said:
"Oh wow. Just noticed something....after about 700 hrs or so...I somehow magically, or conveniently, have a rifle on my back in camp when not so good looking Kieran shows up carrying something personal.
So I guess that's always the tip off that there's gonna be a fight."
gray wasp
God, I must seems so dense rn for not understanding this
amber halo
"F A I L E D
You didn't retreat inside Shady Belle".
Well f me. I almost did. HAHAHAHA SHIT!!
amber halo
@gray waspIn short I said there's always a tip off when you're gonna be in a big gun fight bc you'll have your rifle even though you left it on the horse.
amber halo
Def.
amber halo
I hadn't noticed that in all these hours.
gray wasp
YOU
YOU MENTIONED SHADY BELLE
AND KIERAN HOLDING SOMETHING "PERSONAL"
JESUS
*ptsd
amber halo
Ya I was talking to Dutch and saw in the cut scene and saw I had my rifle and was like "Wait, no weapons in camp???"
I have no ptsd but do have mem problems. And ya, that's def something personal hahaha
gray wasp
Ya I was talking to Dutch and saw in the cut scene and saw I had my rifle and wa...
I'm learning to use my repeater more actually, RDO is teaching me the more complicated forms of combat.
amber halo
@amber haloI use that like 90% of the time. Actually like 95%. I rarely use the pump action and extremely rarely use the revolver which I love the look of when it's all customed.
I'm talking story.
amber halo
@gray waspWTH I guess I did. No idea wth I did but yep.
Hey @amber halo you moron! STOP @'ING YOURSELF!!
gray wasp
lol
frigid cloud
What the fuck
gray wasp
idk man
I feel like I'm descending into being braindead
I can feel my neural pathways shutting down
amber halo
All those unlootable bodies at the Shady Belle massacre. Dam!!
@gray waspThat's f'd. Sorry to hear. Doesn't sound good at all.
Hopefully gaming can help keep that shit stimulated enough to get as much as you can out of it. Really f'n sucks.
gray wasp
well theres a problem with that
one little thing called school
So I'm stuck here
for FIVE HOURS
(WTF its only 9:28?!)
amber halo
"Shoot the O'Driscoll's before disembarking the boat"-ACCOMPLISHED.
I didn't even see a boat. HAHAHAHA
gray wasp
Please tell me that in some point in the game you can replay ANY story mission, and I dont have to replay the entire game multiple times in order to get Gold Rush
frigid cloud
After epilogue ends yeah you can
But you won't have as much items such as chewing tobacco, dead eye items
amber halo
Ya I thought you could as well.
frigid cloud
I'd rather do it in a playthrough
Also drinking moonshine doesn't effect 'dont use any health items'
amber halo
Is everyone else like me when they play story mode? I never take any health tonics or eat anything that gives me a boost for health.
I ALWAYS have health tonics available ane never use them.
Funny, though. The mission report cards at the end always claim I took a health item. Almost every mission does that to me.
Let me rephrase. I never eat anything during the missions.
amber halo
And I never use health tonics in, or out, of missions.
@frigid cloudNah.
@frigid cloudI think I'
late light
I just never die
frigid cloud
Probably a bug I guess
late light
The only times i perish is if i fall down cliffs
amber halo
I think I'm gonna stop doing that and start eating and using the health stuff. Or look up the mission objectives first then try to hit them.
steady vector
And I never use health tonics in, or out, of missions.
Do you use stamina or dead eye items?
amber halo
I'm so careful on horses it's ridiculous and I haven't fallen to my death yet in this run. We're just now leaving Shady.
frigid cloud
Stamina, dead eye items are fine
late light
Its funny cuz horses dont crash into trees or stumps on their own
Its your controlling that causes it
steady vector
Wait, people die from crashing their horse ?
late light
If you spam x forward the horse dodges the obstacles on its own
No but usually the horse dies
amber halo
@steady vectorYes, Dead Eye. I have used them before and passed.
I read that D.E. isn't a health item and I use the one's that don't boost health. I save those for the raids on comps but I'm not doing those this run.
steady vector
No but usually the horse dies
Never had that either lol
amber halo
@late lightMine actually has. I literally let go of the stick well before and BAM! I mean like a good 3-5 seconds before but it's very rare.
late light
I hate it when horses stand infront of the train at the trainstations
They get run over on their own
And i watch them die
amber halo
HAHAHAHA
late light
From their own misfortune
steady vector
Lmao
steady vector
Hitch them before leaving
late light
This your fault!
amber halo
So instead of "Bird brain" it's "Horse brain"
amber halo
I hope if they ever make another one they make horses just like they did cars in GTA. ERxpendable. Just grabbing any horse every 5 minuted.
They could have tons of different stats for them, too.
amber halo
Cornering, braking, drifting, etc.
Oh hell Ya I agree but no one was attached to shit in gta. Although this definitely is NOT gta.
amber halo
Watched a vid today of gamers reacting to the end and started balling like crazy.
late light
And said "goddamn what a game"
I wager RDR2 is the greatest game of the last 10 years
Or 20 years even
amber halo
I shed tons of many tears. HAHAHAHA I'm def more of an Alpha type male for society irl and I still cry hard sometimes. I can always keep my head straight though.
late light
Still attracting attention 3 years after release
RDR1 will outlive us all most likely...
amber halo
I agree. It's absolutely incredible. There is so much to do aside from everything they show us. The dialog. GTA had amazing dialog but this is just crazy!
late light
People knew they only get a game like this once per decade when it was announced
amber halo
Like you can watch, and follow, and NPC and they have lives and do shit. Kinda freaky in a way too.
late light
RDR1 already pushed the boundaries once
amber halo
Ya it's just baffling.
late light
If it cost 100 i wouldnt mind
gray wasp
They really put their hearts and souls into this game its insane
amber halo
I don't pay more than $5 or so for almost every game I have and NEVER get dlc's. This game is worth that price.
gray wasp
In CAD it is $80 so
late light
When did they start work on RDR2?
gray wasp
I was lucky to get it on sale
amber halo
I also have gotten a lot for free. But this game. Sheesh!
gray wasp
When did they start work on RDR2?
right after they finished Rdr1
late light
So potentially
amber halo
I got it on sale 3 yrs later. HAHAHAHA I never get stuff early but I'm not a creator.
late light
RDR3 is in the early, EARLY stages
gray wasp
I got it on sale 3 yrs later. HAHAHAHA I never get stuff early but I'm not a cre...
same!
late light
As we speak!
amber halo
@late lightSource??
late light
No but
If they started work on RDR2 shortly after RDR1's release
Why wouldnt they start work on RDR3 shortly after RDR2's release?
amber halo
All you have to do is get to know any one of them personally and if they can't tell you what they're doing-YOU KNOW! hahaha
late light
Ya feel me?
They couldtnt even tell their families what they were working on
The actors
amber halo
Ya. Like I said-FREAKY!
compact wing
why would they work on rdr3?
late light
Why not?
amber halo
I mean it's like "What, are you acting for the cia?"
gray wasp
why would they work on rdr3?
M O N E H
late light
Yes
But whats the name of the main writer?
Hes probably started working some plans
Like good ol dutch
amber halo
Ya I don't see it either. DLC-DLC-DLC-DLC-DSLC....A new brand of gaming now that lots of companies are adopting "Live Service Gaming".
One game then only DLC's.
compact wing
remaster is easy money
compact wing
Its just cool to think about
yes
shy mulch
hopefully not a shitty port
late light
Some sheets of possible ideas in the file drawer of the main writer
shy mulch
lord knows what happened to San Andreas
compact wing
they could make a game about one of the brothers that I forgot the name now
shy mulch
jack went on to become a writer.
gray wasp
jack went on to fight in WW1
late light
He shot a man in cold blood
compact wing
you can't make a western game during the WW1
gray wasp
IMO
gray wasp
you can't make a western game during the WW1
lol true
late light
Probably on the run himself
compact wing
you can't make a western game during the WW1
not even Sergio Leone could do that
late light
The cycle repeats itself
gray wasp
its not really a western anymore TBH, it's the 1900s now...
late light
I mean the last stagecoach robbery
late light
Happened in 1916 
compact wing
or maybe a Red Dead Revolver 2
compact wing
rdr1 and rdr2 are both about the decline of the old west
a third game about that could be...
you know
shy mulch
then they should subvert expectations and make it not all about the old west
gray wasp
rdr3 should be about Jack trying to adjust to the new world, one of technology
or smth
shy mulch
i feel like its gonna stagnate if it stays all old west
compact wing
rdr3 should be about the peak of the west
late light
Yes
gray wasp
like a prequel-prequel?
late light
They still havent used that
shy mulch
well if the gameplay is still last gen then idgaf what they do
compact wing
yes
gray wasp
interesting indeed
gray wasp
Well, if rdr3 would be set before rdr2, who would be our protagonist?
amber halo
How did revolver do in the series? I had played it at one time and couldn't get into it for some reason.
late light
Its very archaic
late light
And not as expansive as RDR1 and RDR2
gray wasp
I'd pay for that
amber halo
But was it decent at all?
gray wasp
actually...
shy mulch
mate its a different genre of game
amber halo
Isn;t RDR2 the precursor to RDR?
late light
Theres everything else and then theres Red Dead Revolver
gray wasp
I guess
amber halo
OK Well I never played RDR. DAM!
late light
And RDR1 is 1911+1914
shy mulch
probably why the writing railroads you so hard in RDR2
the only choices you get are how Arthur goes on his own terms
gray wasp
Hosea
I feel like if rdr3 was going to be set before rdr2, then Dutch would be a better choise than Hosea, he just doesnt seem like a player-character...
also same
shy mulch
Hosea and Bessie would be a better main story
shy mulch
I'd rather just antagonize NPC Dutch again
gray wasp
I'd rather just antagonize NPC Dutch again
LOL
shy mulch
or they could just do the lame GTA thing and have them both be playable
late light
Then he pushes you off the cliff
At horseshoe overlook
I need to get that to happen
gray wasp
or they could just do the lame GTA thing and have them both be playable
(Rockstar pls dont)
late light
Imagine how RDR3 is gonna look like
Compared to rdr2
Probably not 8-bit is my guess
Maybe 16-bit graphics
shy mulch
if you look at the texture and foliage that shit is actually cheap looking compared to the lighting
late light
It moves.
shy mulch
they will probably cut corners somewhere for their next game to actually run
late light
No because technology moves along with the game
gray wasp
was doing the covid test
and?
amber halo
That's the other thing, too. That f'n score!! OMFG! Tears me up. Shit!
shy mulch
only the lighting was good
gray wasp
ok
shy mulch
the rest are pretty cheap tricks
late light
Critisizing game?!?!!?
shy mulch
imo the rage engine rlly showing its crust with the hair and foliage and how they render that shit
late light
How dare u!!
compact wing
imagine a game where we play with the man with no name (clint eastwood)
it would be impossible
but it's still fucking awesome to think about
late light
Copyright claim moment
compact wing
Copyright claim moment
yeah
wide pivot
i’m trying to drop a wagon off at the fence, but the dudes not opening. he’s not near but it’s clear day and i’m not wanted help pls
gray wasp
i’m trying to drop a wagon off at the fence, but the dudes not opening. he’s not...
it is a acceptable wagon?
what wagon is it and where did you get it from
because prison wagons for example dont work
wide pivot
no it’s an ordinary and the week shows on the map
gray wasp
ok
shy mulch
are you wanted
gray wasp
did you recently commit a bad boy action?
shy mulch
i think you just back up and try approaching it again if seamus doesn't open the first time
gray wasp
@compact wing let this person give you a goddamn wagon!
Wagon. NOW.
gray wasp
(a side mission where Seamus' cousin by marriage finds out he stole it and attacks him would actually be pretty cool)
amber halo
WTF?!?! They let micah shove us in camp and we can't shove back? HAHAHAHAHA whatever!!!
FUCK that pisses me off.
gray wasp
WTF?!?! They let micah shove us in camp and we can't shove back? HAHAHAHAHA what...
A N T A G O N I Z E
amber halo
Ya, that's all you can do-TALK!
gray wasp
we're gonna be seamus on rdr3
Fence simulator 1899, coming in year 2036
compact wing
killin' my cousins (by marriage)
late light
Just dont let the Emerald Ranch owner find out
compact wing
it's time to sell some beans
late light
"This is a sideline!"
misty cliff
Ya, that's all you can do-TALK!
Hehe, ok cowpoke.
late light
black lung.
hushed flare
Micah good Micah good Micah good
hushed flare
gray wasp
(and now the chat descends into madness once again)
hushed flare
amber halo
So I've been told, which I find extremely funny, that if you have very high honor it's extremely difficult to get extremely low honor.
I can't see that being a difficult task. I mean there's how many people, horses, and animals to kill? How many things to blow up or set on fire?
compact wing
if trelawny was at the camp when things fucked up he would poison micah's coffee
fact.
misty cliff
late light
🤬
compact wing
trelawny is the best character
late light
What about seamus?
compact wing
seamus isnt a character
amber halo
Poison micah's coffee and make it look like he had some weird venereal disease.
compact wing
he is superior
amber halo
Trelawney could pull it of.f
late light
Good
amber halo
So that Shady Belle O'Driscoll attack mission starts with you carrying a rifle in camp but the objective states that it has to be done with handguns. PFT whatever.
compact wing
kill them with the fishing rod!
amber halo
Another thing I dislike quite a bit: the f'n horses winging their heads all over the place even though they aren't startled or agitated. Tf is up with that weird shit? The NPC horses NEVER do that.
@compact wingHAHAHAHA Exactly. Plus they put the rifle on you. Like, "Hey guess what you finally get to do in camp?!?!"
gray wasp
Another thing I dislike quite a bit: the f'n horses winging their heads all over...
That happens to me too I also dislike that
late light
I think its because happy
frigid cloud
Another thing I dislike quite a bit: the f'n horses winging their heads all over...
Tired I guess
late light
Wholesome
frigid cloud
If you have ! in stamina core must be tired
amber halo
@frigid cloudNah. Just leaving for the day after being hitched, any time of day, any kind of trip. It's habitual.
If they are tired then it's age or something but that's not it either. Thy do it all the time unless you're just trotting.
I could see if bond was like a level 2 or 3 mayube but just UGH
gray wasp
it is annoying isnt it?
I like to walk everywhere personally
unless its a serious situation
hushed flare
Walking from annesburg to tumbleweed
amber halo
@gray waspLike from Valentine over to Annesburg??
amber halo
Another silly thing is when you slam open doors in shops and the owners physical reactions are like they were terrified momentarily but their dialog is all calm and shit.
gray wasp
or just around town
hushed flare
<@!664917446121095168>Like from Valentine over to Annesburg??
@gray wasp actually walks from tumbleweed to annesburg regularly
frigid cloud
First thing he does when he gets on
hushed flare
No sprinting
gray wasp
<@664917446121095168> actually walks from tumbleweed to annesburg regularly
🎵 And I will walk 100 miles and then I will walk 100 more- 🎵
amber halo
HAHAHA
hushed flare
Multiple potent stamina tonics
gray wasp
(I love this: no discussion, no questions about the game, just jokes and making people laugh)
hushed flare
Micah good
gray wasp
and then SOMEONE SAYS BULLSHIT LIKE THAT-
hushed flare
"no discussion"
misty cliff
Micah good<:micah:661738467344121860>
Agreed, he killed the worst character ever.
hushed flare
true
misty cliff
yeah
amber halo
OK So I've been feeding my horse just like I eat. In the morning and at night and in between if needed. When they are hitched, or not being used, does their hunger rise along with mine?
hushed flare
Fit horse weight is a benefit
amber halo
I mean should I be feeding them even when nothing is low?
amber halo
They are always fit. I guess I should just watch that then. I will.
hushed flare
better then a malnourished horse
amber halo
All my horses always stay "Fit" but me. HAHAHAHA I had "Perfect" for quite a while on one run through.
hushed flare
Perfect weight is op
amber halo
Heh. Perfect weight is apparently pretty hard again for some reason. I can't figure it out. I know it was something hefty like venison then a veggie like yarrow or something at least twice a day but I can't get it anymore. At least that had worked for me.
hushed flare
It's in between below average and above average
The closer your core bonuses go to 0% is when your close to perfect weight
like 0.75% stamina and -0.75% health
gray wasp
you guys talking about perfect weight again? (I'm fine with average tbh)
as long as none of my cores are too badly affected
amber halo
Pay for a bath in Val-doors locked, icon isn't gold (no idea wth a gold icon means). I cross the street, grab something, come back and bath is now available, still no gold icon.
I thought the icon turned gold bc you paid for it. No f'n idea!
The hell is going on?
I just finished a bath and get an alert for an item request for the book Jack wants???
Is that a tip like to rob something nearby or something? I mean it's the hotel in Val.....I'm lost!
gray wasp
The hell is going on?
I just finished a bath and get an alert for an item reques...
*laughs in already done that request
amber halo
@amber haloWith all the time I have in I haven't done more than 3 requests.
I'm just wondering why I got the prompt as soon as I left the tub in the hotel, like not in camp where I usually get it, right after the request is made.
hushed flare
The game is reminding u
amber halo
@hushed flareAh that's all?
I don't see them for others. Like we're about to leave Shady and I have had maybe 3 of them pop up the entire game.
@gray waspGenius!
Since we're pretty active rn I'll throw this out there again.
Anyone every try grabbing the Ardennes horse? I know how to make it spawn and have on multiple occasions but it spawns in dead.
hushed flare
Buy the horse
amber halo
@hushed flareWhere??
I only found it bc I saw the title of the vid about getting one.
hushed flare
Van horn
amber halo
It wasn't......NM it was how to get one early.
OK TY
Pretty sure I'm gonna use that the rest of the time although fast traveling really eliminates most attacks from anything.
opal geode
why do people care so much that marston has the same animations as arthur for some things
amber halo
Maybe the reason why they always exclaim that your late is bc the team knew everyone would be exploring around new places and stuff.
Kinda irks me how they always say I'm late. Hehe
hidden moss
why do people care so much that marston has the same animations as arthur for so...
makes sense though
John has his own aiming in game files
opal geode
i play alot of open world games from shitty companies like ubisoft and whatever and people should be grateful
opal geode
like imo there is so much detail its mindblowing I think exceptions can be made
with johns animations being the same
hidden moss
like imo there is so much detail its mindblowing I think exceptions can be made
small details like horse balls but let's throw away one of main protagonist details!!
amber halo
Randomly walking in circles-AAhhhh the beauty. Especially during missions. Always the best time.
hushed flare
horse balls > proper epilogue John according to rockstar
opal geode
you guys look like you dont appreciate the hard work put into rdr2 lol
hushed flare
I mean I 100% the game
opal geode
play watchdogs 3 if you think rockstar handled epilogue john with laziness play that game and you would throw up
hidden moss
horse balls > proper epilogue John according to rockstar
According to fanboys and rockstar devs, horse balls are more important than epilogue John
hidden moss
play watchdogs 3 if you think rockstar handled epilogue john with laziness play ...
Imagine if epilogue Arthur looked like previous protagonist of rdr3
hushed flare
Arthur with John's hair
opal geode
or play assassins creed the newer ones
where there is minimal animations
boring cutscenes
and dead facial expressions
and people looking like clay
hushed flare
ok and
hidden moss
Also haven't you got over yourself with people talking about epilogue john issues?
It makes you hypocrite
We have mods, now it's time for you to get over yourself friend.
opal geode
literally im admitting i dont like his body structure but thats a big detail
hushed flare
his hair is a big detail
opal geode
people really cry over him having the same puking animation as arthur
hidden moss
people really cry over him having the same puking animation as arthur
I don't mind animation
but sound is
amber halo
@opal geodeJohn's in Watchdogs?
opal geode
while there are games from ubisoft for example who dont even come at 1% of rdr2s success
so why should people complain its a minor detail whatever move on the game was perfect already for the past 60 hours of story
hushed flare
people really cry over him having the same puking animation as arthur
ok but the exact same sound as Arthur is dumb
opal geode
ok but the exact same sound as Arthur is dumb
i never saw john puke so idk
or i forgor
hushed flare
eat common bulrush for suprise
round hedge
Why wouldnt they start work on RDR3 shortly after RDR2's release?
because why would they work on rdr3
opal geode
i hope you guys know where im coming from
hushed flare
mircah good
shy mulch
that's why you do it
round hedge
so why should people complain its a minor detail whatever move on the game was p...
then why not make John perfect
would only take 1 hour of working at max
shy mulch
he's well written and therefore I have to roleplay
hidden moss
in front of micah's shoes
Nah if you really hate him, keep eating as Arthur when he’s very sick, right in front of Micah. Make him the next black lung😄
shy mulch
ok i feel like that's a poor take i doubt it would take an hour
IM still fucking surprised Micah didn't get infected out of all people
I worked his ass in the fight and probably coughed a metric fuckton of blood on him
opal geode
then why not make John perfect
idk i dont work for rockstar i didnt like johns body structure but it is what it is and rockstar really outdid themselves with the rest
amber halo
People can complain all they want.
Imagine, someone complaining about people complaining. EPIC!
However, things seem to be changing a tiny bit in the great America........maybe we can't complain about stuff anymore. Y E T!
OK that's it. My 3.5 centson such a subject.
opal geode
so seeing it get that much hate is almost as if the community is under appreciative to rockstar
while there are games i play from triple a studios where horses literally look like plastic
round hedge
idk i dont work for rockstar i didnt like johns body structure but it is what it...
Rockstar really outdid themselves in being lazy fucks with their most iconic character
opal geode
whatever man your opinion
round hedge
however Ubisoft successfully made Aiden Pearce into watch dogs
with a whole DLC focused on him
but i guess Ubisoft bad rockstar good
because they spent days making realistic horse balls
🗿
opal geode
rockstar have been money hungry lately but their singleplayers are still genre toppers
shy mulch
but i'd rather talk about the rest of their jank design than john lol
opal geode
also dont compare ubisoft to rockstar bruh
gta 4 has better facial animations and physics than recent ubi games
round hedge
EA would be a better option
opal geode
watchdogs 3 doesnt even have working waterphysics
round hedge
cool, they still cared about their iconic character
shy mulch
lul I think Ubi is on its way to have an even shittier track record than EA at this point
round hedge
and even added his walk animation after fans complained
shy mulch
'specially with that Valorant MW ripoff
round hedge
EA also listened to feedback with NFS Heat
opal geode
okay good i was scared to say this but i think ea have released better games recently
shy mulch
well we'll see
I think it's just bc they've been under the radar and folks are finally calling out shittier devs
opal geode
ea sport are still scum tho
shy mulch
cough activision blizzard
round hedge
I think it's just bc they've been under the radar and folks are finally calling ...
finally calling out but GTA V E&E Will sell like water
opal geode
look at ea games they released recenlty
shy mulch
probably
opal geode
a way out
it takes two
battlefront 2
bf 2042 looks promising
shy mulch
see there's probably a reason why people keep buying remasters despite criticism
round hedge
only remaster thing in the game are the yellow plates lmao
EA would've done a good job with John if they were sent to fix his issues tho
shy mulch
do you think my definition of remasters is held in high regard lol
round hedge
compared to rockstar
round hedge
do you think my definition of remasters is held in high regard lol
should be
opal geode
gta 5 expanded and enhanced will have some more easter eggs thats it
shy mulch
they are all lazy as fuck these days
shy mulch
i want reboots and remakes
not a port
and if the remaster is GTA V level then it might aswell be a port
amber halo
Game switching my rounds to regular rather than express for missions. HAHAHAHAHA Ahhhh good stuff.
opal geode
dunno
shy mulch
lol look at the remaster trailer
shy mulch
all that shitty PR they've gotten for those ambiguous ass terms
round hedge
like they even care about quality
opal geode
they cared about quality since the beginning
round hedge
yeah i can tell, epilogue, patches that bring more issues than they fix
opal geode
literally they do 1 very bad thing and you compare them to the worst scum jesus
round hedge
terrible updates for both games
a trailer full of bugs
not sure how that's quality
opal geode
youd think rockstar doesnt know that
round hedge
what
opal geode
do you really think they didnt know the trailer was filled with bugs
round hedge
Oh, but didnt they focus on quality?
so why is the trailer completely filled with bugs
opal geode
i gave you a point recently on that
round hedge
that doesn't show quality, does it
opal geode
i agree that gta 5 expanded enhanced poopoo
gray prairie
who cares go to work or school
round hedge
post RDR2 rockstar is poo poo
shy mulch
im sure the original teams who worked on singleplayer sure did until they got dropped
amber halo
I've had minimal problems with RDR2. I waited 3 yrs to buy it, no patches for me. No major, continuous, bugs for me. That's how ALL my purchases go now. Ever since the first 500K people who purchased the PS2 got swindled it's been that way for me.
opal geode
post RDR2 rockstar is poo poo
here ya go
amber halo
I haven't owned a sony product since and I never will again.
opal geode
you sounded like rockstar was always never about quality
round hedge
actually, they got poo poo during RDR2
and became terrible after it released
I'd expect better quality games from indie companies at that point
opal geode
an indie company cannot make gta 5
round hedge
they can make better written and more fun games instead
opal geode
gta 5 is fun
opal geode
well obv not now for me
bcs played the story like 5 times
but in general
its fun
for a person who picks the game up first time and goes trough story mode
the satire is perfect the acting is perfect the details are astonishing
for christ sakes they hired actual prisoners to do voice lines
round hedge
perfect story mode perfect writing simp for the multi billionaire company
opal geode
alot of missions were fun and for that time is was graphical masterpiece
but oh an indie game can do better
with a few million
round hedge
yep
they don't need to make giant games to make them fun
or have realistic blablabla shit
opal geode
this is the last time I’m listening to an anime pfp dude
round hedge
this is definitely not the last time I'll listen to a Rockstar cocksucker lmao
frigid cloud
this is the last time I’m listening to an anime pfp dude
How is that relevant
amber halo
Comes in here starts bashing people for complaining about stuff. HAHAHA
Peace!
opal geode
i just said something and it escalated im sorry
opal geode
Comes in here starts bashing people for complaining about stuff. HAHAHA
Peace!
show me evidence of bashing people like actually bursting and cussing everyone out for not agreeing to an opinion of mine
which had decent arguments
buoyant adder
Woah what did I stubble into
shy mulch
i dont think folks actually want a discussion they just want others to validate their own opinion
round hedge
Woah what did I stubble into
a guy defending rockstar with his life
opal geode
idk i just said i dont know why people complain much about johns smaller details in the epilogue because for me the game was already perfect at that point
like compared to other open world games rdr2 is a gift and many can agree
round hedge
geez I wonder why people complain about a terrible and lazy model in a game full of high quality stuff
opal geode
i also never said rockstar was perfect i literally said gta expanded and enhanced is bad but okay
round hedge
i mean, he's just your main character, why would you care?
buoyant adder
Rockstars pretty good, yeah, but like.. lets not simp for creators who have no idea you exist, nor do they care
opal geode
im not simping i expressed multiple tiles to irl friends about how i feel about gta online and gta 5 ps5
that its SHIT
buoyant adder
The story line is pretty lack luster
opal geode
but u have to give credit where credit is due and rdr2 is a very good game
round hedge
I won't give rockstar any credit, they do not deserve any kind of positive feedback for what they've done to their community
rdr2 was good but became worse with all the downgrades and bugs introduced with further patches
opal geode
my opinion literally had decent arguments in it and you just said that an indie company can make a better game than gta 5
well goodluck to that indie company
i hope they find 100 mil + funding
atleast
round hedge
I like how you immediately think that a better game needs to be the exact same genre as GTA V
opal geode
obviously??
round hedge
hell indie companies already humiliate rockstar's gameplay design easily
opal geode
open world games get compared to open world games
do racing games get compared to first person shooters
summer garnet
i dont think folks actually want a discussion they just want others to validate ...
fr lmao
verbal prairie
hell indie companies already humiliate rockstar's gameplay design easily
🤨🤨🤨
summer garnet
Why wouldnt they start work on RDR3 shortly after RDR2's release?
cough Grand theft Auto Online cough
verbal prairie
- what are they even meant to do for rdr3 their options are completely limited
verbal prairie
how so
round hedge
clunky and outdated
verbal prairie
really? maybe it's just personal preference but to me it feels great
at least with their latest release
gtav can surely feel quite bad at times but it's still a fun time imo at least with story mode
round hedge
their latest release is possibly the most outdated gameplay design to date lmao
opal geode
there are some times where i go like oh shit didnt want to do that but i didnt mind it that much
round hedge
there's a video explaining in detail why it is outdated
verbal prairie
send in dms I'll take a look
opal geode
popping a headshot with that aim assist
verbal prairie
maybe I'll be convinced
summer garnet
when the beef is real 
opal geode
it is true that it is outdated but that doesnt mean its shit
just annoying some times when you do the wrong animation
I think its more hell for keyboard and mouse players than controller players
bcs on consoles its more assisted
everything
round hedge
super satisfying
cant agree
verbal prairie
I do play console lol maybe that helps
the worst I felt was my character going not exactly where I intended
opal geode
yeah
verbal prairie
which could unimmerse you or whatever the opposite is
opal geode
or accidentally picking a dude up
opal geode
i think thats a detail
round hedge
no, it's just that bad
opal geode
the fact your horse just does something dumb and bumps into a tree
round hedge
rockstar added a hidden mechanic if you hold the running button where your horse avoids trees automatically
opal geode
when i bond my horse to max it happens lesser but that could be a placebo
round hedge
and ruins your control if you try to do it yourself
although it'll probably hit the tree if you use their mechanic too lmfao
no fun allowed
opal geode
hitting the tree funny tho
summer garnet
the fact your horse just does something dumb and bumps into a tree
And the horse bucks you instead of running away when a cougar is 100 feet away
round hedge
And the horse bucks you instead of running away when a cougar is 100 feet away
god i hate horse gameplay so much for that
RDR horse gameplay sucks too
hidden moss
And the horse bucks you instead of running away when a cougar is 100 feet away
ride slowly and pat your horse
summer garnet
ride slowly and pat your horse
it will still buck me i have tried that
opal geode
depends if you have max bonding
shy mulch
average non arabian enjoyers 
opal geode
oh yeah each horse is diff
summer garnet
Why are arabians pussies in this game, for realism?
shy mulch
to have a tradeoff
round hedge
Why are arabians pussies in this game, for realism?
think so
shy mulch
probably the reason you can get one so early
round hedge
probably the reason you can get one so early
RDR gave you the best horse at the start of the game
you reminded me of it with that comment
opal geode
Why are arabians pussies in this game, for realism?
its balancing prob
a nice looking fast horse but with a flaw
summer garnet
a nice looking fast horse but with a flaw
shouldnt the flaw be its size?
its so small
round hedge
shouldnt the flaw be its size?
mf looks like a poney
opal geode
that and being a pussy ig
round hedge
pony*
opal geode
its so that not everyone takes the best horse
shy mulch
it cant jump the one bridge
summer garnet
mf looks like a poney
riding an arabian=riding a mule
opal geode
it didnt look that small last time i remembered it
but yeah there are way bigger horses
round hedge
it's the smallest horse in the game
summer garnet
to have a tradeoff
i threw off my arabian and died then a tennesse walker spawned best trade-off 👍
shy mulch
lol have you guys seen uncles horse
summer garnet
yes it has a moustache
shy mulch
that mf is the reason why i learned horses can grow staches
I wouldn't be surprised if you could steal uncle's horse and it has stamina core drain from lumbago
hidden moss
Question: Did dutch van der linde suffered brain injury, or did he just revealed his true self throughout the game?.
round hedge
john said he became insane in RDR
summer garnet
Question: Did dutch van der linde suffered brain injury, or did he just revealed...
he revealed his true self
summer garnet
i have not finished the game
you got spoiled?
hidden moss
you got spoiled?
Just a little
My friend said
That
Well
So
Kinda
Lets just say
Dont check the creek
And dont spoil video games for me
We are not spoiling
hidden moss
We are not spoiling
Good
i always do these questions
sometimes related with ending, most of times no
ember wharf
Nobody actually likes Arabians
summer garnet
And dont spoil video games for me
leave this server if you dont want spoiling someones going to eventually will
ember wharf
Get a war horse
hidden moss
Im at the part at the Rhodes part where he is kinda like you know just finished tourching the feilds for calagan hall
summer garnet
Get a war horse
mft supremacy
winter turtle
Question: Did dutch van der linde suffered brain injury, or did he just revealed...
I feel like it’s both
winter turtle
Im at the part at the Rhodes part where he is kinda like you know just finished ...
dude keep playing till the mission your with bill Micah and Sean in Rhodes 👍
terse heart
How the fuck does strauss destroy me at any poker game
kindred jackal
Question: Did dutch van der linde suffered brain injury, or did he just revealed...
revealed his true self
hushed flare
How the fuck does strauss destroy me at any poker game
Skill issue
sonic saffron
“No need to keep your face covered now, it’s just me and you, sweetheart.”
hushed flare
Micah has good missions
sonic saffron
-micah
sonic saffron
grapple??
eager raft
For mission non-player enemies grappled
hushed flare
micah missions make me want to die
Micah good still
American pastoral gold medal is bad tho
sonic saffron
ok genuinely tho, not in a rude way, why the hell do you like micah 🧍♂️
frigid cloud
American pastoral gold medal is bad tho
Ive done it on first try
I don't like how we can't see our time, like GTA v we could see how many seconds we were behind
hushed flare
ok genuinely tho, not in a rude way, why the hell do you like micah 🧍♂️
good antagonist good gunslinger(almost killed John in final mission) cool outfit, missions are fun, guns are cool af, I want his jacket in 1899
sonic saffron
ohhhh okay so i thought you were seeing him as a good person and it confused me
round hedge
good antagonist good gunslinger(almost killed John in final mission) cool outfit...
badass jacket fr
river temple
hi had a random question, i hog tied an odriscle. what can i do with em
hushed flare
Loot him
hushed flare
depends if he came from a prison wagon
hushed flare
If he was in a cage I think u can sell
summer garnet
Micah has good missions
the legend returns
hidden moss
micah missions make me want to die
why
hidden moss
Micah has good missions
yes
summer garnet
over paranoia
what was he afraid about tho not arguing just asking you can ignore if you want to
hidden moss
i dont like his voice
i thought micah was hilarious in my first playthrough
vagrant temple
Micah has good missions
Okay Micah simp
sonic saffron
i thought micah was hilarious in my first playthrough
idk he just pisses me off
especially later on when he starts making fun of arthur's sickness
vagrant temple
idk he just pisses me off
Yeah the people who like Micah are weird
vagrant temple
Ah yeah good point
hushed flare
Yeah the people who like Micah are weird
Arthur simps weirder
eager pasture
micah is an excellent villain
sonic saffron
micah is an excellent villain
i agree
eager pasture
hot take: sadie is a bit of a Mary Sue
sonic saffron
i like her
hushed flare
Sadie is badly written
eager pasture
yes
hidden moss
Sadie is badly written
exactly
sonic saffron
but yeah she is.. kinda sorta. she's strong but badly written
hidden moss
hot take: sadie is a bit of a Mary Sue
She is
She gets no punishment for her actions too
Also disregards "Revenge is a fool's game"
hushed flare
from widow to gunslinger as soon as she puts a hat on and new outfit somehow
sonic saffron
i wish she had more of a personality other than independent woman
hidden moss
i wish she had more of a personality other than independent woman
I wish too
hushed flare
Sadie should have died in American venom atleast
hidden moss
from widow to gunslinger as soon as she puts a hat on and new outfit somehow
"some new pants, and you think you're landon rickets!?"
hushed flare
Bonnie Macfarlane is most realistic strong woman honestly
Problem is more people played rdr2 I think
sonic saffron
lmao
hushed flare
I haven't even touched rdr yet myself
eager pasture
She gets no punishment for her actions too
or in "Goodbye, dear friend" she starts a shoot-out in saint denis, that could've killed god knows who!
sonic saffron
I haven't even touched rdr yet myself
me either but my dad has lol hes very confused with rdr2
summer garnet
Sadie is badly written
Cockstar tried to make sadie too much of a badass
hidden moss
They downgraded John's character to oblivion lol
hushed flare
John morgan
hidden moss
Most John's rdr1 character has given to Arthur
summer garnet
John morgan
Jarthur morgstan supremacy
hushed flare
when Micah almost beats John in american venom
sonic saffron
i also wish arthur got a better life 🧍♂️
i think thats just me wanting him to be a father, yknow after seeing that fishing trip with jack
hidden moss
i think thats just me wanting him to be a father, yknow after seeing that fishin...
Please keep him away from Jack
summer garnet
he was
eager pasture
i think thats just me wanting him to be a father, yknow after seeing that fishin...
he had to die the redeem himself
hidden moss
John was a good father to Jack
sonic saffron
only after somethin happened to the kid
hidden moss
Shit
sonic saffron
he realized what he couldve lost and got better
hidden moss
Rdr2 community underestimate John
They think epilogue look is canon look
and they think him acting weird is canon too
lmao
sonic saffron
sdkfjhsdff
vagrant temple
Sadie is badly written
Why is she badly written?
sonic saffron
Why is she badly written?
too stereotypical independent woman
hushed flare
@vagrant temple
sonic saffron
sdljfhsds
hidden moss
Woman have rights?
I ate woman
late light
I destroy woman.
hidden moss
I don't know woman
hushed flare
i shoot
sonic saffron
women have rights?? 😡😡🤬🤬
late light
Woman drew flower on my hand
hushed flare
rdo characters be like
late light
I said "bruh"
hidden moss
What is woman?
native thunder
tf going on here lmao
hidden moss
tf going on here lmao
We are summoning hell
late light
Nothing to see here
eager pasture
javiers mustache is dumb
misty cliff
Why is she badly written?
She literally has no experience yet destroys a whole squad of lemoyne raiders and o Driscolls like nothing.
late light
The evidence has been burnt
vagrant temple
It’s her way of dealing with trauma. She’s not badly written
hushed flare
She literally has no experience yet destroys a whole squad of lemoyne raiders an...
With Arthur's help of course
summer garnet
Woman have rights?
As my homie Napolean said ''Womens rights? throw them in the trash''
eager pasture
rights or women
late light
When the odriscolls attacked shady Belle
native thunder
trauma doesn't make u a killing machine or better at fighting lmao
vagrant temple
She literally has no experience yet destroys a whole squad of lemoyne raiders an...
Lmao that’s video game logic
late light
Of course she had to take on 3 on her own
hushed flare
idk if the ai accuracy should be considered canon tho
eager pasture
When the odriscolls attacked shady Belle
when colm got hanged and sadie shoots the odriscoll
misty cliff
Lmao that’s video game logic
That's bad writing's lack of logic.
late light
When the
summer garnet
She literally has no experience yet destroys a whole squad of lemoyne raiders an...
realism
late light
The when
hushed flare
idk if the ai accuracy should be considered canon tho
All the ai have aimbot
ember wharf
Sadie was popping off during that Shady Belle mission
vagrant temple
Do you think it’s realistic to have Arthur kill hundreds?
ember wharf
Stabbing people
summer garnet
yes
misty cliff
Do you think it’s realistic to have Arthur kill hundreds?
Yes. I mean more than sadie
vagrant temple
Lmao
frigid cloud
He's experienced 
ember wharf
I wonder how many NPCs I’ve killed
hidden moss
Do you think it’s realistic to have Arthur kill hundreds?
Only John being killing machine is realistic honestly
sonic saffron
trauma doesn't make u a killing machine or better at fighting lmao
it just makes you more wild
late light
36 year olds be like:
hushed flare
Do you think it’s realistic to have Arthur kill hundreds?
I mean when the player is controlling no lol
summer garnet
All the ai have aimbot
Micah tho
hushed flare
Drink moonshine and use chewing tobacco and everyone dies
misty cliff
Only John being killing machine is realistic honestly
Seriously they screwed him up in the epilogue in plenty of ways.
eager pasture
sadie should have died in american venom. she should have been shot in the head by micah, which would cause dutch to shoot him in the abdomen (like in the game) and allowing the player to finish off micah (also like the game)
hidden moss
Seriously they screwed him up in the epilogue in plenty of ways.
Everything
summer garnet
and if you get blasted point blank eat bread ez
late light
She would have bleed out
Realistically
In cold weather WHILE bleeding out
Not the best conditions
vagrant temple
Only John being killing machine is realistic honestly
10,000% disagree
eager pasture
sadie should have died in american venom. she should have been shot in the head ...
i mean if sean gets killed like a damn dog, let sadie die too
native thunder
lmao sadie just loves through a stab wound by screaming
hidden moss
Do not underestimate John.
native thunder
lives
vagrant temple
The argument sounds a bit sexist honestly
hushed flare
Imagine if the player had the ai health
vagrant temple
It’s a video game
native thunder
don't turn everything into sexism
hidden moss
The argument sounds a bit sexist honestly
So talking about John being only realistic killing machine is sexist?
vagrant temple
don't turn everything into sexism
Y’all already did
native thunder
how
hidden moss
I even said Arthur wasn't realistic
eager pasture
So talking about John being only realistic killing machine is sexist?
rdr1 john sure, rdr2 john just gets shot and jailed
summer garnet
Imagine if the player had the ai health
doesnt rdo have ai health put to your character?
hidden moss
rdr1 john sure, rdr2 john just gets shot and jailed
Due to poor writing
native thunder
gotta make John look bad for Arthur to look good
hidden moss
gotta make John look bad for Arthur to look good
Yeah
Arthur didn't even exist in rdr1
misty cliff
Not even John is that realistic but as a character he is much better and sensible than the rest of them.
hidden moss
Not even John is that realistic but as a character he is much better and sensibl...
Exactly
late light
Arthur existed as bones smh
vagrant temple
It’s a form of fictional media. Everyone is a badass in the game. Saying Sadie shouldn’t also be a badass sounds sexist
late light
Yes
native thunder
Strauss is badass?
late light
😎
vagrant temple
Just my thoughts
hidden moss
It’s a form of fictional media. Everyone is a badass in the game. Saying Sadie s...
Honestly, there are far better characters than Sadie
eager pasture
Due to poor writing
i don't even mind the medium writing, i just find it sad how short-lived rdr2's story is going to be in comparison to gta5
hidden moss
female characters
misty cliff
Micah is badass
hidden moss
Lara Croft, Bonnie Macfarlane
late light
Strauss is the real MVP though
summer garnet
female characters
black belle
hidden moss
Black belle
But people ignore them
Lara Croft, Bonnie Macfarlane, Black belle. But no one cares about them
late light
Who?!?!?!?!
eager pasture
i don't even mind the medium writing, i just find it sad how short-lived rdr2's ...
the whole honor system affecting the story just clashes into Rockstar's formula of an open world game for me.
native thunder
we're not directing it against sadie bcs she's a woman. we're saying she shouldn't be a good fighter bcs she's had no combat experience lmao. if Arthur was a rancher for all his life and spent some weeks with the gang, I wouldn't acknowledge him as a badass gunslinger
summer garnet
Who?!?!?!?!
i cant decide if this is sarcasm or not
misty cliff
we're not directing it against sadie bcs she's a woman. we're saying she shouldn...
Same with John, Dutch or anyone else.
hidden moss
we're not directing it against sadie bcs she's a woman. we're saying she shouldn...
Shit you can't tell people about that you hate someone because of their character because they will think you hate them for their gender, race, sexuality
vagrant temple
Sadie is a member of the gang. She’s obviously capable of doing what she does. She has a traumatic past and she’s angry. I don’t see why that should be an argument.
misty cliff
But sadie never gunslinged before.
hidden moss
Logic doesn't work for him
misty cliff
So anger is enough to master gunslinging skills?
hidden moss
Just be hostile towards everyone, so you can't be called sexist, racist, homophobic
ebon bramble
I hunted all the people and took pictures what do I do now?
vagrant temple
So anger is enough to master gunslinging skills?
Lmao does Arthur or John have master gunslinging skills. It’s a video game. Stop overthinking
misty cliff
Gotta try it myself thanks for the tip man. I'll hit targets easily on a shooting range if i get angry, fine by me.
hidden moss
Lmao does Arthur or John have master gunslinging skills. It’s a video game. Stop...
John does honestly
native thunder
does being angry give you combat training? let's say I jointhe military rn bcs I'm angry I dropped my muffin on the ground. would I be a certified killer and trained pro in a few weeks without any training? would my anger just give me all that training immediately?
eager pasture
I hunted all the people and took pictures what do I do now?
wait until chapter 4. A stranger quest will appear in saint denis
vagrant temple
John does honestly
He’s never had training?
hidden moss
He’s never had training?
Play rdr1.
vagrant temple
Neither has Arthur
ebon bramble
Ah okay so I don’t need to revisit the bar or anything