red-dead-singleplayer

[night raven]

I love the Black Arabian

[quiet gazelle]

I had the black arabian on my first ever playthrough

[loud forum]

honestly I don't think anyone can disagree

the outfits only feel nice in Arthur

[night raven]

I like the cowboy outfit on john though

[half seal]

oh no

[loud forum]

don't remember how it looks so can't agree or disagree

why would you try to mention everyone @half seal

[half seal]

i am 47 years old

[loud forum]

no you're 2 years old

you're illegal here 😳

[half seal]

your mom is 2 years old

[loud forum]

quit talking about yourself bro

[half seal]

your pretty

pretty ugly

[loud forum]

you're*

[half seal]

ah

i don't give a shit

[loud forum]

okay

[half seal]

@everyone

[loud forum]

lmaoo why'd you try it again

this server isn't run by dumb people who leave @everyone perms on

[misty prawn]

Damn he telling you

[thick chasm]

imagine being toxic

[glad brook]

@half seal Be nice mister.

His facial hair is different. That's about it though.

Oh and his body.

[hidden moss]

In 1.00

[hidden moss]

and his body is Arthur's tb modified body

In 1.00 his facial hair was his npc facial hair

and his body was modified version

which had some of npc parts

they looked well

[red helm]

John in Epilogue is awesome!

Kidding, kidding. Sometimes I just want to say that to bug Desano and the rest of you guys that are always gripping about it.

[stiff echo]

@glad brook

Idc.

[hidden moss]

Not really affected lmao

i can sense a joke when someone does it

[glad brook]

@stiff echo

[red helm]

lol, Yeah, I know, just... whee.

[stiff echo]

Spit it out.

[glad brook]

John milton.

[stiff echo]

Juan.

[hidden moss]

wheeeeee

[stiff echo]

Arthur Marston.

[glad brook]

Juan Marsrin.

[gaunt bobcat]

Fun fact:Killing the KKK actually gives positive honor

[night raven]

In my entire playthrough, I never found them. I’m hoping that I can run across them in the epilogue so I could kick butt

[hidden moss]

They are mostly around rhodes side of lemoyne or west elizabeth strawberry side

[night raven]

Got it

Thx

[round hedge]

yeah, sadly not many changes

cowboy outfit was better at least

still sucked but slightly better

[fierce cave]

wbere do you find kkk

[glad brook]

Only difference between his 1.00 and current model are his cheekbones.

[hidden moss]

No

His gloves and pants size

Mustache

[glad brook]

Model.

[hidden moss]

He was still arthur marston

except more decent

[red helm]

Rockstar be lazy, indeed.

[round hedge]

nope

his face wasn't changed

mustache, gloves, pants, beard and body

those were the changes

everything else is normal

[night raven]

Does anyone know if you can set up more than one camp without one going away?

[hidden moss]

not possible, only one camp.

[night raven]

Ok thx

[red helm]

Why would you need more than one?

[night raven]

I don’t I was just curious. I also sorta wanted to toy with the idea of setting up my own personal rest stops between town

[red helm]

I see, just look for smoke fires in the distance? Of course, random npc's put up camp fires too, so that would ruin that.

[night raven]

Right

I googled this for a long time and kept thinking that I could get a better camp that refills my ammo, but that’s rdr1

[red helm]

Indeed. Someone was talking about a tent, a long time ago, that gave them Gold cores when they slept, but that might be Online or something, because I've never been able to figure out a better one in single player.

Or, they just confused eating meat with Herbs for doing that.

[night raven]

Maybe they made herb meat in a camp and accidentally ate it and thought they stowed it

But it could also be the maxed out rdo camp

[red helm]

Right.

[static rover]

red dead redemption on the pc looks beautiful

[hidden moss]

Guys is there a way in rdr2 story to ALWAYS cause npcs to bleed out every time

[civic nest]

No, unless you use mods I imagine

[gray wasp]

So... snakes are In this game huh? Thank God I had Ginseng on me...

[gray wasp]

Aim for the back of the neck (allegedly)

Also I finally was able to buy a train ticket to Saint Denis, now I’m gonna finally go to a fence, then buy some clothes and get a drink :)

[hidden moss]

Rhodes has a fence too

Best fence imo

[gray wasp]

Why?

[hidden moss]

Cus the NPC is nice xD

[gray wasp]

Ok

Well I’m already in Saint Denis so

[hidden moss]

And Rhodes is beautiful, nice saloon with blackjack

[gray wasp]

Cool, I don’t know how to play

[hidden moss]

You’ll learn ;) there are some gambling challenges

[gray wasp]

Of course there are :l

[hidden moss]

Just fyi, best to avoid this server till you complete the story. Spoilers are allowed here

[gray wasp]

Well

About that... 😬

I may have watched a playthrough

[hidden moss]

Ah alr😄👌

[red helm]

Spoiler: The Cat kills everyone in Chapter 9.

[hidden moss]

^^

[gray wasp]

But I only watched up until the end of chapter 6

So everything beyond that is new

But I’m in no rush

[red helm]

Good, do not rush the game.

This game is definitely about the journey.

[hidden moss]

Nice, ye take it slow. Do challenges, catch legendary fish etc

[gray wasp]

I’ll try and stay In Chapter 2 as long as I can

[red helm]

Hang out in the camp, chat with the other gang members, explore, etc, etc.

[gray wasp]

Well, There will be time for that, it’s just a shame I had to get this game with only 1 day of vacation left

[red helm]

Like, only do Yellow Missions if you feel there isn't anything else to do. Or you are just bored...

Eww, yup, it's definitely a rough one to only play in small doses.

[gray wasp]

Yeah, time seems to pass slowly and super fast at the same time somehow

So does anyone know where I can find a trapper?

[red helm]

There are 5 of them around the map. But.. are you still in Saint Denis?

[gray wasp]

That where I last saved, yeah. Isn’t there a trapper in the city?

[red helm]

Yes, It's in the northeast side of town.

Also, the fence is right next to him.

[gray wasp]

Ok, thanks, I’ll go there when I get back to playing. (Wow that convenient)

[weary scaffold]

I wish you could go in those big hotels in saint denis

[red helm]

That would be sort of interesting.

[weary scaffold]

There is aslo that doctors office in strawberry you can’t go into

[gray wasp]

(Wait, isn’t there something at Six Point Cabin? I went there and there was nothing.)

[red helm]

"Gone Fishing"

[weary scaffold]

Yeah forever

[red helm]

There are a lot of buildings that you can never get into.

[weary scaffold]

Yup

[ruby pewter]

its so stupid that john cant multi task

he cant whistle for horse while in looting anamation -___-

[gray wasp]

Do you keep special masks and hats you find around?

Or if you lose them, are they gone forever?

[hidden moss]

no you keep them

they should be on your horse

if you have picked them up

[gray wasp]

Ok, ok, I just need to know for future reference

Thanks

[hidden moss]

no problem

[gray wasp]

(I still don’t know how the clothes system works yet and how to use them with. U horse or whatever)

[shut harbor]

Just finished the game for a second time let’s goooooo

Wanna cry again but who cares

[ruby pewter]

if i drive a train for long enough

will people try to rob it?

[night raven]

I have no idea, but I saw a random encounter one where some guys had stopped a train and tried to rob it, so maybe?

[night raven]

I just finished the main story for the first time on Saturday and the “thank you” scene just broke me

[night raven]

You can save outfits to your horse and then once you’re on your horse you can switch between those outfits

[night raven]

Here’s a story about me being stupid. I went through two whole story missions without firing my revolver because I had two bullets. Little did I know that this was split point ammo and I had over 300 of regular and express. I felt so stupid afterwards

[red helm]

Ha, ha, what a dumb dumb.

I've never done anything foolish like that.... Just accidentally shot the Trapper when I meant to target him....

[night raven]

I have a similar story about the first time I got arrested in game. I meant to greet a stranger in valentine and accidentally robbed him. He punched me in the face and I got arrested

[red helm]

Yeah, hitting the wrong button leads to some good times.

Or the old "Trying to get on your horse, but a person is standing to close, so you tackle them instead" That totally has only happened to me 2-3 times...

[night raven]

Also accidentally firing your weapon in town

[red helm]

"Disturbing the Peace" That's a beaten.

[night raven]

Yeah

[smoky hornet]

finished the game

definitely my favorite game now

[red helm]

It's a good one.

[smoky hornet]

is it objectively the best? prolly not, but it's near perfect to me

[red helm]

Was milking the cows your favorite mission, or building the fence? Shoveling the stable?

[smoky hornet]

no no no it was DEFINITELY getting that wagon back

[red helm]

Oh! The wagon thieves, those jerks.

[night raven]

I’m loving the epilogue so far

[smoky hornet]

jokes aside prolly the second to last mission in ch 6 with eagle flies (Trying to be as subtle here as possible), maybe ch4's disaster

or a silent night

or the final mission of ch6

it's hard to pick

[red helm]

Yes, yes, Lots of good missions. The train Robbery in chapter 2 was good times. I love Assaulting the Braithewaithe Manor as well, super good music.

[native thunder]

the hell is 'a silent night'?

[smoky hornet]

yeah commiting arson FTW

[smoky hornet]

as far as I remember

LENNY?!

[native thunder]

OH

HAHA

[red helm]

Lenneh!

[smoky hornet]

LENNEH!!!

I miss lenny

[native thunder]

"A Quiet Time" is the real name lol. gave me a good laugh because 'a silent night'

[night raven]

Assaulting the manor was spectacular. That scene with the seven facing the manor was awesome

[smoky hornet]

synonyms

[native thunder]

a silent night sounds like a dramatic version of it lol

[smoky hornet]

yeah it was outstanding

[night raven]

I’m going to go back and replay that at some point just for the cool screenshot of that shot

[smoky hornet]

surprisingly enough I also really enjoyed ch2's sheep mission and not just because of the escape from valentine

[smoky hornet]

i gotchu gimme a sec

[night raven]

Cool desktop screensaver

[native thunder]

i love playing the manor mission with only dual revolvers, makes arthur look insanely badass

[smoky hornet]

#red-dead-media

[night raven]

What revolvers?

[native thunder]

whatever i have, usually schofields

[smoky hornet]

I made two really sick revolvers for ch 6 I'll post them in red dead media

I actually stuck with cattlemans the whole game

[red helm]

I Just finished the 100% and Squirrel Trophies, so Gold medal farming time. Definitely hit that one, just for the heck of it.

[smoky hornet]

there posted my revolvers

I also loved avenging sadie's husband

[night raven]

In saint denis?

[smoky hornet]

both that and the mission where you finish off odriscolls for good

[night raven]

Yeah those rock

[somber grove]

i need some advice i just got to saint denise

but got robbed by a kid in a misson

so does this also happen in freeroam

[civic nest]

No it doesn't

[somber grove]

oh ok

ty

anny advices

as i just started cahpter 4

[willow vortex]

what activity gie u most honor

?

[hidden moss]

pls help

why when im playing singleplayer my camera is lagging

[frosty bloom]

hey guys so i have a question, so lets say i will use the "add 500$" cheat code and keep doing it till im rich and buy some stuff, if i turn the cheat code off will my cash, the things i bought (with the cheat code) all dissapear?

[summer garnet]

you cant turn off cheats as far as i know

[hidden moss]

will disappear cuz you can't save

[somber grove]

chapter??

[willow vortex]

3 now

[somber grove]

ok did youd o the misson of train chase

??

[willow vortex]

no

i just got to chp 3

[hidden moss]

throwing fish back, camp chores, greeting

basically honor

[willow vortex]

after helping arthurs old flame get her brother

[willow vortex]

oh

but what give the most

[somber grove]

ok there will be a misson just accsept to go to fishing with dutch and hosea

[willow vortex]

which activity

[willow vortex]

ok

[somber grove]

and donate 20$to camp

if you have

it gives a lot of honar but just 20$

you can also do fishing

[hidden moss]

it takes a while for all of these, but greeting gives constantly but in small amounts

[somber grove]

and in chapter 4 just great a heela lot of strangers in saint denis

[hidden moss]

yea

i mean do those honor based stranger missions in chapter 4 too

[somber grove]

yes

and if in misson you have a option to kill or not just don't kill it will give you honar

[round hedge]

Can't wait until R* decides to target RDR2 mods for no reason lmao

[steel parrot]

Where is saint denis?

[surreal creek]

south eastern lemoyne

[winter turtle]

Bottom right in the swamps

[random sedge]

[hidden moss]

Tbh it’s better to go there when the story takes you there imo

Unless your doing challenges

Not really a reason to go there, more fun exploring during chap 4

OHH B0Y

YoUr Ok BoY

[amber halo]

AAAAAhahahaha I just got a "Good" pelt from f'n cow I walked up to and used the knife on. Guessing it was because there was a "Witness". Didn't happen with the goat but seemingly no one saw that.

[hidden moss]

Unless they shot the cow, ppl witnessing won’t drop pelt quality

It prob was just a 2 star cow

[amber halo]

Right. I'm just thinking the witness maybe hod nothing to do with it, MAYBE, but ya, it's def not supposed to. Although there's a lot of bugs and stuff here and there just like any other game. Probably what it was but it absolutely didn't report back as a 2. Looking at it through binoc's, then standing in front of it, then using the lasso. I didn't just screw it up or something. HAhahaha

[hidden moss]

Ah ye. It’s possible that the cow despawned and a new one spawned in place. Can happen if you turn your back and are far enough away ;)

Track the animal you’re looking at if it’s at a distance

That way it won’t despawn

I had the same with a bull moose

Turned into an elk since I didn’t track it

Quite disappointing😄

[lilac prism]

How much honor do you need to get the good ending in chapter 6? Also what mission will end Chapter 6?

[mild scarab]

the one that arthur dies in

[lilac prism]

What is the name of the mission? And how much honor is needed to get the good ending where Arthur ends peacefully?

[rapid gust]

Blessed are the peacemakers

[steady vector]

I think Arthur’s last mission is called “Red Dead Redemption”

[hidden moss]

About middle, just a lil bit higher

Is already enough

In the grey, towards the white

If it’s in dark/red it’s to low

[hidden moss]

Yup it is

[toxic crystal]

hm

[grand phoenix]

Hi guys

[quartz charm]

Herbalist challenge 9 smh

[amber halo]

I've been pegging the hell out of greeting people, doing everything for everyone, leaving dead stranger loot alone. Only things I do that give neg honor, which I notice usually don't, are some requirements for camp stuff however I have an idea that late enough in the game those things will probably be involved in missions and provide no negative honor.
Like I don't touch any bodies that were ended by people or enemies anymore and haven't since ch 1.

I still don't have honor fully good.

Actually since ch 2. I think. Whenever you can interact with "Strangers" who are dead.

I didn't even take anything from the gunsmith when I freed that kid. HAHAHAHA Pretty sure I wouldn't have gotten anymore neg on that.

[hidden moss]

You didn’t take the free gun?

There’s no honor loss from that

[kindred leaf]

Trying to finish the animal compendium rlly sucks

[balmy palm]

I'm getting bored of the game.

[craggy kettle]

how far are you

[kindred leaf]

129 out of 178

I finished the story

I am at 88.7%

[craggy kettle]

some of the animals in the swamp are a pain to find

[native vector]

Screw micah

[hidden moss]

Well, let me have a ruler and a saw and a board
And I'll cut it
I'll climb up the ladder with a hammer and nail
And I'll nail it

[hidden moss]

LOL

[quartz charm]

Could you guys tell me what is the 3rd legendary fish ?

I missing this one

[frigid cloud]

Open your map and you can find every fishes' location if they are caught it'll have ❌ on it but if not you gotta catch it @quartz charm

[quartz charm]

Thanks for the tip!

[hidden moss]

the log has a list right? for legendary fishes

[night raven]

Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that we have to read the pamphlets after buying them in order to get the recipe? It should at least auto open them once you buy it

[frigid cloud]

Use next→ ←previous options

[night raven]

I know about those, but it should give you the option to just open them automatically. Like with treasure maps

[gray wasp]

how long does it take for a legendary animal to respawn if you dont kill it?

I found a shack in the swamp, full of painting and cryptic writing, whoever lives here must be a very strange man. I left as soon as I could.

[frigid cloud]

😆

He's named strange man

[gray wasp]

Yeah I know lol, I knew you guys would catch that :)

is he really (allegedy) the personification of death?

also holy shit you have the Best in the West role

*clapping

[smoky hornet]

I tried installing the intro skip mod and now my save's deleted?

I'm back at chapter 1

[gray wasp]

GOOD

[hidden moss]

they call him the grim reaper and reason for the cholera spread, so i guess

[gray wasp]

ok, so I scrolled down like 30000 names or so and I counted around 21 people with the Best in the West role. Holy. Shit.

im in the C section of people who didnt choose the Ps, Xbox, Stadia, or PC roles

[night raven]

I’m shooting for the best in the west trophy

[gray wasp]

Jeez, good luck to you friend

how long have you played the game?

[night raven]

Dino bones are going to suck

[gray wasp]

Dino what-nows?

[night raven]

I got it on July 30th and finished the main story on Saturday

I’m working my way through the epilogue now

[gray wasp]

I just started

[night raven]

Then I’ll cover the stuff that I haven’t yet

[gray wasp]

Make sure you dont miss things that are one time only!

[night raven]

You’ll love it

[gray wasp]

I havent gottem a chance to play that much, and I wont be able to for another 7 hours

I wish I hadnt gotten the game at the end of summer

[night raven]

Same

[gray wasp]

:(

[night raven]

Maybe it’ll help you not rush the golden path and do more side things

[gray wasp]

thats the plan

its why IM in Saint Denis rn

[hidden moss]

yea dont rush it, enjoy all the small details, i went for the trophy on my 3rd or 4th try

[gray wasp]

oh crap

[night raven]

What chapter are you in? 2?

[gray wasp]

make the count 22 now

[gray wasp]

yeah

[night raven]

That’s a fun one

[gray wasp]

Its the best

[night raven]

I love three too

[gray wasp]

I plan on staying in 2 for as long as I can

[night raven]

It’s just good all around

[gray wasp]

not like Beaver Hollow...

[smoky hornet]

I lost my save

rip

[night raven]

Oh no! That suck dude

[gray wasp]

The view there at Horseshoe Overlook is just amazing as well

[night raven]

Yeah. Best view of all the camps

[smoky hornet]

ive been planning on going straight to another playthrough and actually do more side content this time

so it's not all bad

but means I can't finish the epilogue]

[gray wasp]

Idk what to say. sorry dude...

how many hours didja have in that?

[smoky hornet]

it's not a huge deal I may be more comfortable playing as john the second time around

[smoky hornet]

about 80

[night raven]

Real quick side note: is upgrading camp required to get Best in the West?

[gray wasp]

oof

[night raven]

Like getting the cosmetic stuff from Pearson, not stuff from the ledger

[hidden moss]

nah

[night raven]

Ok

[hidden moss]

satchel are good tho, cuz more quantity

[smoky hornet]

I think i can go for a more complete journey this time

I'm gonna still try downloading intro skip casue I don't wanna spend another 5 hours on ch1

actualyl like 3 I just spent a lot in ch2 that first time

[night raven]

I didn’t do those during the main story, I’m going to do them during the epilogue.

[smoky hornet]

I didn't get a single satchel upgrade my whole playthrough as arthur

[hidden moss]

in epilogue u can buy them, no need to craft

[night raven]

I thought you still needed to give the stuff to a fence

[hidden moss]

nah, just money

[night raven]

Oh sick

[smoky hornet]

I didn't do many of the challenges either or get all legendary animals/fish

[night raven]

Neither did I. I love the look of the og

[smoky hornet]

so I think I can feel less urgent about the story and focus more on the cowboy simulator part

[night raven]

That’s my goal in the epilogue

[gray wasp]

its annoying though

[night raven]

Yeah

[gray wasp]

but I agree

[smoky hornet]

I'd do it in the epilogue but 1. save file gone 2. John

[gray wasp]

I might get the Tonic satchel though

[night raven]

Yeah

[gray wasp]

So... what do I do with all the animal...bits I have?

(bad quality, idk how to hunt good)

[smoky hornet]

if meat make it into food they're the best way to up your cores if something else idfk

[gray wasp]

oh ok

I never knew how hard it was to keep your cores up

[night raven]

It’s difficult

[gray wasp]

you have to eat, sleep, drink, ECT

[night raven]

Yeah

[gray wasp]

its just Life simulator lol

[night raven]

Dead eye was the hardest to conserve for me

[smoky hornet]

im expecting the second goaround to be a lot longer

[smoky hornet]

same

[gray wasp]

Ikr?! idek how to fill the center one!

only the outer ring

[smoky hornet]

meat

[hidden moss]

cigars

[gray wasp]

also It took me longer than it should have to realize that to sprint I have to tap A rapidly

[night raven]

Yeah use meat or most liquor to fill the cores. Cigars and tobacco for the outside

[gray wasp]

Thats super helpful

[hidden moss]

cigars are for the cores, it reduces stamina cores tho

[night raven]

You can change it in settings

[gray wasp]

lol Im too lazy

[smoky hornet]

im still somewhat upset I lost all my data

[gray wasp]

Whenever I see Arthur smoke I get upset, he really shouldn't be doing that. (neither should Hosea...)

[night raven]

I double saved every time I closed the game to avoid that

[gray wasp]

same

Im very worried about my save data already

[smoky hornet]

I was tryna install a chapter 2 save and my original save got cucked

gonna try and see if I can use steam to restore it

[gray wasp]

THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE

[smoky hornet]

cause we all know how reliable rockstar is

[hidden moss]

might have replaced the same slot

[smoky hornet]

yeah i think that's what happened

meh

the only unreplaceable thing dies canonically anywayss (horse) so it's not all bad

[night raven]

Does anyone know if you can buy feathers or do you just have to kill birds for them

[gray wasp]

So, I was going to name my horse Morgan, but the breed of the hourse I have is Morgan... I just named him Lee. :l

I was taken by suprise and just went with Lee

[hidden moss]

kill

[gray wasp]

murder

[night raven]

Ok

When I do a second run, I’m going to go mostly first person instead of mostly third

Just to see how different it is

[smoky hornet]

my first horse was named Jean after an AoT character

[gray wasp]

I like 3rd person, but first person seems like a cool experience

[night raven]

Yeah

[smoky hornet]

first person's a neat gimmick but it's really awkward on horseback

[kindred jackal]

I did a full playthrough of GTA V in first person when it came out on PS4, definitely not the smoothest thing in Rockstars games

but indoors its okay

[gray wasp]

yeah, Idk whens a good time to use it

[hidden moss]

picking items

[smoky hornet]

it's decent in gunfights but the cover mechanic looks super scuffed

[gray wasp]

(BRO THERES A GUY IN MY CLASS NAMED MICAH)

[smoky hornet]

is he a nice person though

[kindred jackal]

on console maybe, but RDR2s gunplay is a nightmare sometimes on PC nevermind first person aiming

[gray wasp]

idk never met him

[smoky hornet]

the kid named arthur should fight him

[wild flare]

maybe an outlaw lol

[kindred jackal]

i do a lot of stealth sections in FP in RDR2 and GTA V

[wild flare]

xD

[gray wasp]

I dont know anyone named Arthur, but if it ever happens, I'll scream

[smoky hornet]

WAIT

[kindred jackal]

if that happened the arthur kid would be dead

[smoky hornet]

I GOT MY SAVE BACK

IT'S NOT GONE

[muted sierra]

Why can’t modderd take John’s hair from GTA 5 and put it on him for a 1911 John mod!!

[gray wasp]

NICE

NOW FINISH THE DAMN GAME

[smoky hornet]

well i finished arthur's story

currently my john marnston's horse died he's far away from any society and has no lasso

so we're doing pretty good

[gray wasp]

whoops

meant to do the emoji

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I have question about the leveling up of Stamina, health and deadeye

how tf does that work?

[smoky hornet]

health is like getting creative kills like with knives or dynamitte

stamina is just running n shit

deadeye idfk

[gray wasp]

Headshots?

[smoky hornet]

fishing also works for health

[hidden moss]

deadeye has a lot.. headshot, hunting, chores

[gray wasp]

I dont have a fishing rod yet

chores?

like chopping wood

[hidden moss]

camp chores

yep

[gray wasp]

oh alright

[hidden moss]

gives 5 points i think

[smoky hornet]

by chapter 6 I really missed camp shores

chores

[gray wasp]

havent been in camp much, dont want Grimshaw to complain

[smoky hornet]

they're somewhat monotonous but like

they're neat

remind grimshaw of her fate and tell her to spend her days wisely

[gray wasp]

I wish I could. I wish I could...

[smoky hornet]

Arthur pulls a Sans Undertale

[hidden moss]

that was the most random death..

[gray wasp]

I want to jump inside the game,slap Dutch in the face, and scream at everybody to listen to Hosea. (and kick out Micah)

[smoky hornet]

sansthur

leave micah in prison

mock him every other day

just lie

jump around in the open world

[limpid gyro]

I do that too

[wet saddle]

Arthur deserved his death

[limpid gyro]

arthur did not deserve it

well he kind of killed lots of people

so uhhh

[wet saddle]

And robbed countless more

[smoky hornet]

the entire story of rdr2 is: "Just because you are bad guy does not mean you are bad guy"

[gray wasp]

THE FUCK YOU SAY YOU- *expletives deleted

[wet saddle]

All the Van Der Linde gang earned their deaths

[gray wasp]

even Jack?

[hidden moss]

jack doesn't die though

[smoky hornet]

even

[wet saddle]

Jack was a minor

Like

Toddler

[smoky hornet]

EVEN CAIN

[wet saddle]

Doesn’t count as an active participant

[smoky hornet]

arthur isn't a good man as he says himself but he was one of the only people that actually tried getting his act together as much as he could by getting john out of it

[gray wasp]

Hosea didnt deserve death, he deserved retirement.

[wet saddle]

A commendable but failed feat

[smoky hornet]

Kieran i don't believe deserved death either assuming he really wasn't an o'driscoll

[wet saddle]

And his sins caught up to him as well

[gray wasp]

Arthur became Hosea, in a way. y'know?

trying to save everyone

[wet saddle]

Kieran joined a gang that kills and robs amongst other horrid things

He got what was coming to him

[smoky hornet]

the guy had no real choice he was forced into a life of crime and was going to be killed if he escaped from either one (Odriscolls or VDL)

[wet saddle]

He wasn’t forced

[smoky hornet]

he basically was

[wet saddle]

He was down on his luck so he took to robbery as an easy way out, and soon learned it weren’t so easy.

[smoky hornet]

if he didn't join the VDL gang he'd be found by o'driscolls

which sure he eventually was

[gray wasp]

with Arthur and John, you have to understand that they were raised by criminals, its the only thing they knew back then. (its like Megamind lol)

[wet saddle]

Why was he running with the O’Driscolls in the first place

[smoky hornet]

they forced him to run with them

they gave him a choice of "ride with us or die"

[hidden moss]

ride or die

something like that

[smoky hornet]

this aswell

[wet saddle]

To die a brave man is preferable compared to being a spineless coward funding murderous rats of human beings

[gray wasp]

*coughMicahcough

[smoky hornet]

arthur did die a brave man though

[gray wasp]

he really did

[wet saddle]

I’m referring to Kieran

[gray wasp]

oh well...

idk how I feel abour Kieran

[wet saddle]

Arthur died a good death

[smoky hornet]

you have a point but the guy was desparate during his whole arc

[wet saddle]

But that death was earned

More than earned

Same for John

[smoky hornet]

you could say that yeah

[gray wasp]

(is Agent Ross the same guy as Edgar Ross?)

[smoky hornet]

I'm pretty sure

I'd say dutch had it coming even more than micah

[gray wasp]

yeah, I wasnt sure

[gray wasp]

I cant disagree...

[wet saddle]

Dutch was a narcissist

And above all else a fool

[gray wasp]

His mental health wasnt the best though, but you cant blame all of his behaviour on that

[wet saddle]

He listened to Micah because he was a Yesman

Feeding his ego

[smoky hornet]

micah is absolutely a terrible person but Dutch completely lost his mind, you could even say the only thing keeping him from being this way was hosea

who knows

maybe he always was that way

[gray wasp]

awww now I'm sad...

[smoky hornet]

but hosea just kept him in line

[wet saddle]

One could argue Dutch was always a pos

[gray wasp]

Hosea we miss you :(

[wet saddle]

And the last act was him showing his true color

[smoky hornet]

yeah

mainly because of hosea I'd assume

[hidden moss]

Dosent White Arabian horse respawn if it dies?

[gray wasp]

I take this back, your being very intelligent about this.

apologies

[hidden moss]

yes

[hidden moss]

Its not there for me

sleep and reload

[wet saddle]

Jack also did a bad thing killing Ross, something even his father didn’t want.

[round hedge]

Arthur's canon death should be low honor saving john

so not exactly a good death

[wet saddle]

High honor is canonical as it makes more sense for the character

[smoky hornet]

yeah

[gray wasp]

Damn, looking back, none of us were prepared for RDR2's story, were we?

[wet saddle]

Especially after Tuberculosis

[round hedge]

doesn't make sense for Micah to just walk away and leave Arthur

he'd definitely put a bullet in his head like low honor

[wet saddle]

Maybe he wanted him to choke on his own blood

[smoky hornet]

I feel like the most natural progression for arthur would be neutral honor during chapter 2 maybe slightly low honor during chapter 3, can go either way during chapter 4, and then chapter 6 he decides to spend his days cleaning hisact

[wet saddle]

A more sadistic end

[smoky hornet]

his act*

[glad brook]

Micah Javier and Bill were the only ones he had left.

[gray wasp]

Faced with him own mortality, Arthur decides to make the best of the time he has left and try to become a better person, I say he succeeded in the end.

[round hedge]

did he really become a better person tho

[wet saddle]

Micah was the only member of the gang that would agree with whatever Dutch said, and actively stroked his ego.

That made Micah his favorite

[round hedge]

all he did was save the woman he made go in prostitution

and give them 50 dollars

[gray wasp]

and it made him the exact opposite to everyone else

[wet saddle]

And Micah used that to manipulate Dutch

[gray wasp]

depends on how much the player helps

[glad brook]

He died for and gave John's family a chance to live a normal life.

[wet saddle]

Arthur was Dutch’s favorite when he was young because he was a Yesman.

Same with John

[smoky hornet]

the thing is Micah used this to turn the gang into a community where everyone had say and could express themselves to a prison where dutch ruled with an iron fist

[round hedge]

John pretty much handled the whole thing lol

[smoky hornet]

arthur made it possible

[round hedge]

he was always in front of Arthur who just followed him

not much from Arthur in that mission

aside from slowing him down to mourn the damn horse

[wet saddle]

Had Arthur not save Abigail and John there would be no hope

[round hedge]

i can agree with Abigail

but john handled himself

Arthur didn't save him

[wet saddle]

John would’ve gotten shot to hell had Arthur not covered him

[round hedge]

nah, john is also highly skilled

he wouldn't

[wet saddle]

Against that many men? Doubtful

[smoky hornet]

looks at rdr1

[round hedge]

yep

look at RDR and epilogue

[glad brook]

Was just about to mention that.

[wet saddle]

John was also always more proficient with revolvers

[smoky hornet]

both were in a bad state and needed each other to get as far as they did honestly

[wet saddle]

Arthur was the rifleman

[smoky hornet]

if john weren't there arthur couldn't have confronted micah at all

if arthur weren't there john would've gotten shot to hell

[round hedge]

why are you guys acting like john is a weakling

[wet saddle]

He isn’t

[round hedge]

you can go without Arthur firing a single bullet

[hidden moss]

no one said he was

[round hedge]

and John will take care of everyone

[smoky hornet]

he's not but against that many men in a half dead state he'd probably die

[wet saddle]

20+ snipers is something not even the strongest of men can handle alone

[round hedge]

all he did was get shot in his shoulder

which doesn't bother him at all during the gun rights

fights

[smoky hornet]

that's in a gameplay standpoint

but thinking of it in a canonical standpoint

john would've been screwed

arthur needs help aswell

most of the time you take out small groups by yourself

camps or wagons

not gigantic armies

[round hedge]

pinkertons weren't even that much

[smoky hornet]

I'm talking about the U.S army here

[round hedge]

John could handle them

[smoky hornet]

or the huge amounts of lawmen

[round hedge]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[weary scaffold]

I like to think Micah bell wasn’t always evil I’m sure his dad is the reason he’s the way he is that still dosent e all the evil things he did later in life I mean he could of did what his brother did but didn’t
I got those last words form a vid but still

[smoky hornet]

in CH2

[glad brook]

Like he did in Redemption 1s ending?

[wet saddle]

Micah wasn’t always evil

But he definitely became scum

[smoky hornet]

unlike arthur john was in a relatively decent state when he fell

[smoky hornet]

so basically he's the DIO of rdr

[round hedge]

yep, he didn't die until he wanted to

before that he shot every single army man that appeared

man wouldn't give up until his family was safe

what a chad

[smoky hornet]

he didn't want to die there he still had a family to raise

[wet saddle]

He didn’t want to die against the Pinkertons, but he knew he had no choice but to die

[smoky hornet]

he died protecting his family

[wet saddle]

If he didn’t die they’d eventually kill him and his family anyway

[smoky hornet]

but it's not because he WANTED to DIE

it's because he had to

[round hedge]

FBI

not pinkertons

it was the FBI and the army

[round hedge]

that's what I meant

[wet saddle]

Practically all those men were former pinkertons

FBI at least

As for the army less so

During that time FBI were just rebranded Pinkertons

[round hedge]

john should've been able to shoot two handed guns with one hand when using horses and carriages

God I miss that a lot from RDR

[wet saddle]

What would he do after that?

Get killed in his sleep

[smoky hornet]

same goes for arthur but for all the people in the camp that could still live a life, Tilly, the marstons, possibly Sadie (though unlikely as sadie had already become a notorious outlaw)

[round hedge]

Sadie should've died 🗿

[smoky hornet]

in the high honor ending he literally says he tried

[round hedge]

she can go fuck herself

[hidden moss]

i miss hot air balloon guy ;-;

[smoky hornet]

same

[wet saddle]

Sadie was alright

[round hedge]

nah her character was pretty crappy

always fucking the gang up

[glad brook]

How tho?

[wet saddle]

Only thing I recall her fucking up was getting John to help her kill Micah

Which HE agreed to

Even after his wife begged him not to

So not her fault

[glad brook]

John's biggest mistake was looking back. 😔

[round hedge]

constantly ruining their plans during shootout

also making stupid shootouts that could ruin the gang's hiding

such as lemoyne

gang was trying to take cover in shootouts and there she went trying to knife fight with 3 guys

[wet saddle]

How’s that worse than Dutch fucking things up 24/7

[round hedge]

did i even mention it being worse

[wet saddle]

You called her the worst character

[round hedge]

exactly

[glad brook]

She handled herself.

[round hedge]

you seriously want to call dutch a terrible character lmao

[glad brook]

Didn't cause any trouble.

[round hedge]

only made 3 people get out of the house

and risk getting shot

[wet saddle]

He was an idiot

And had more experience than Sadie

[round hedge]

then there was the balloon guy

[glad brook]

You expected them to hide in the house till the odriscalls left?

[round hedge]

of course? why get out when you can safely shoot people from cover inside

dumbass

[gray wasp]

imo hes a great character, just not a good person

[round hedge]

fighting o'driscolls in chapter 6 for absolutely no reason

[wet saddle]

Sadie was never an experienced outlaw

[round hedge]

risking both her life and Arthur's

[wet saddle]

She was married to some hunter

And got thrown into the life

No one bothered teaching her anything

So she reacted how she saw fit

[round hedge]

yet becomes a perfectly experienced outlaw in just 1 chapter

[smoky hornet]

she really doesn't

as you said

she's reckless

and she can ruin plans a lot

[gray wasp]

she already had some shooting skills before

[wet saddle]

She acts tough and that’s about it

[smoky hornet]

but despite that she can still be very skilled and a great gunslinger

[round hedge]

shooting animals who didn't shoot back

[gray wasp]

but ye this^^^

[wet saddle]

Her shooting skull came from hunting

[smoky hornet]

exactly why she's reckless

she underestimates human opponents because of her time hunting

[wet saddle]

Shooting an animal is no different than shooting a human once you know how to duck shots

[round hedge]

chapter 2 she's crying for her husband
chapter 3 she starts a whole shootout and kills everyone

[round hedge]

oh yeah it does

get shot at and it's a whole new experience

[gray wasp]

eeeeeeh, I wouldnt be so sure of that, irl you have to factor in that they also have human intelligence

[round hedge]

its not just wait until you focus your aim and shoot

[smoky hornet]

by chapter 3 she wants to get clean her act off and trying to help those who saved her]

even if flawfully

[round hedge]

and she perfectly does that creating trouble with the other gang

[wet saddle]

I doubt her psyche would be damaged during battle from gunshots

[round hedge]

and trying to kill Pearson

[summer garnet]

but how did she became a full on gunslinger bro

[smoky hornet]

she creates trouble with the other gang yes

[wet saddle]

She heard a lot of them when her husband got murdered

[round hedge]

plot

[smoky hornet]

she knows how to use a weapon but not exactly a super skilled combatant against humans

she's careless and that's the flaw of her character

well the human flaw

[summer garnet]

she used it only for animals not humans so

[smoky hornet]

EXACTLY

that's why she isn't great against humans

[round hedge]

isn't great?

[smoky hornet]

she's reckless and causes comflict

[round hedge]

lmaoo

isn't great but is as skilled as John Marston in one chapter

[smoky hornet]

not even lamo

lmao*

[round hedge]

tell me one battle she lost

[wet saddle]

Also any reckless altercations with the O’Driscolls can be chalked up to her experience with them

[smoky hornet]

this

[round hedge]

aside from her stupid ass getting trapped when saving abigail

[summer garnet]

lmao no she legit becomes a gunslinger without even practicing and is at arthurs level who has been using a gun for 25 years

[wet saddle]

Anyone would be irrational if they were fighting the men who butchered their lover

[wet saddle]

That’s gameplay

Even Pearson would be a god if he had to fight in game

[smoky hornet]

for gameplay all helping shooters are basically the same no matter their character

[wet saddle]

^

[smoky hornet]

they're programmed the same

[wet saddle]

Criticizing non scripted gameplay is incredibly stupid

Especially for player characters

[smoky hornet]

an arthur played by fuckin shroud would be leagues above any supporter

[wet saddle]

Just because you can shoot down 1000 men when you’re playing as a character doesn’t mean said character shot down those 1000 men in lore

[round hedge]

easily takes out 3 people using a knife during a whole shootout

and you tell me she didn't become equally as skilled

le bruh james

[smoky hornet]

gameplay wise you can do that

hell I did that on multiple occasions

[wet saddle]

Once you close the distance a knife is better than a gun

[smoky hornet]

yeah

[round hedge]

when did she ever learn to fight with a knife

[summer garnet]

nah man plot and game mechanics

[wet saddle]

What’s their to learn

[round hedge]

oh yeah, animals ganged up on her, that's where the experience came from

[wet saddle]

Stab their vital points

[smoky hornet]

i dunno but it seems like in the mountains you can get mauled by bears and a knife is your best chance of escape

[wet saddle]

Common knowledge, especially for a hunter

[smoky hornet]

she probably knows enough about human anatomy

to know where to stab

[wet saddle]

You’re acting like stabbing someone in the arteries takes a PDHD

[smoky hornet]

if we're being honest it's more weird to see arthur take down legendary beasts 2 weeks after he was trained by charles

to hunt a buck

but

that's gameplay

[gray wasp]

hey how do I do that charge move where Arthur just straight up tackles an enemy?

just fucking go at 'em?

[hidden moss]

Just tried it, it worked. Thanks alot

[hidden moss]

yes

[hidden moss]

no problem

[smoky hornet]

yes

[hidden moss]

or pressing L3 or LS holds them down

[summer garnet]

run at them and spam b it worked for me

[granite linden]

ikr. i was drawn in just because bang bang cowboy game

[smoky hornet]

same

[ruby pewter]

is there a point

in tearing down a camp?

[summer garnet]

not really the camp just dissappers if you go far enough with your horse

[devout hemlock]

found a fun way to rob passenger trains without loosing honor

1. ride up behind train on horse, use lasso to pull first guard off train

2. sprint at the second guard inside one of the boxcars, tackle him, and tie him up

3. 4 guards from the front of the train will run to the back, jump on top of a boxcar

4. when each guard tries to get on top, lasso them

they should fall over and fall off of the train

now all of the guards are off of the train or restrained so you are free to loot the safes

[gray wasp]

aesthetic

So I found those Dino bones you were talking about earlier.

God this game is so cool

[frozen forge]

Does ANYONE have any tips to get a 3 star moose? I’ve been looking for 3 HOURS

[hidden moss]

Try your luck

Or use baits

in a lake

where u hunt down flaco

[frozen forge]

Done that

Didn’t work

Reloaded saves

I tried different locations

Potent bait

Nothing works

[hidden moss]

Oops can’t post link

I’ll dm, it’s YouTube

[vagrant temple]

Use #red-dead-media

@hidden moss

[hidden moss]

Alr👍

[ruby pewter]

Can my precious horse get eaten by an alligator?

[gray wasp]

hey, is it a good idea to ride around robbing people just because I'd like something to do? (I'd wear a mask)

[gray wasp]

idk

I dont want to know

[red helm]

Moose are quite rare, just look up their locations online. Youtube video can help a tad, but I really have never had much luck at all putting down bait to make any animal "Appear", but eh... they are either there or they aren't.

[red helm]

Of course, why wouldn't they be able to?

[red helm]

Bandit Challenge 1: Rob 5 Towns people.

[ruby pewter]

i was skinning a snake in the water and heard my horse crying and an aligator growl

my heart sank into my stomache while i was turning around

[gray wasp]

PERFECT

[static rover]

can you rob the secret business behind the doctors office without alerting the law?

[red helm]

Gator's are all over the place in the Boyou, and theygrowl a lot. Plus, all Horses have a hidden Bravery stat, and they will get spooked and run away from Predator's eventually.

[gray wasp]

Really? is it specific to a breed, or to each horse themselves?

[red helm]

Valentine one? Possibly, like if you don't pop the safe, if you are super quick.

[static rover]

yw

ye

[ruby pewter]

hidden bravery stat?

lol

[red helm]

All breeds have that stat, and even the bravest will surely eventually run. Warhorses are the bravest. Arabians tend to be scardy-cats.

[ruby pewter]

Mine is a turkoman

[gray wasp]

So, I have a Morgan, how brave would he be?

[ruby pewter]

lol

thats the worst horse in the game

[gray wasp]

well shit

[red helm]

Turko's are very brave. Think of it as a % chance each time you see a Predator.

[gray wasp]

Uh...

ok

[red helm]

They roll that die to see if the horse gets spooked.

[gray wasp]

How/where do I get a good horse? doesnt have to be the best, just pretty good.

[vagrant temple]

Bravery doesn’t exist

[red helm]

Worst horse is.. eh... Kentucky Saddler.. Morgan?

[red helm]

Or is it Tied into their Temperment?

[vagrant temple]

No it doesn’t exist.

[red helm]

Also how do you explain how Arabians run and hide whenever a leaf flies by their face, and a MFT stands their like a Statue when a Bear charges them?

If it's not tied into some type of "brave" statistic?

[vagrant temple]

That doesn’t happen

All horses will run

Unless you have S&S

[red helm]

This is what I am saying, but Arabians run at a higher Percentage then some other breeds. Like Turko's, MFT's, Ardennes... etc.

[round hedge]

because they are pussies

Arabians are terrible horses

[vagrant temple]

I know it’s weird but if you Google about it

It doesn’t actually exist

There’s no bravery mechanic

[gray wasp]

Idk about that I'm looking it up and Im seeing a lot of people talking about it

then again, not everything on the internet is true

but still

[red helm]

Okay, well, call it what you will, But... that's how I like to think of it as.

[ruby pewter]

kentucky>morgan but just barley

google horses ranked rdr2

[red helm]

Okay, I had them reversed.

[vagrant temple]

I hear so many different things

[gray wasp]

great, I have the worst horse...

[vagrant temple]

It exists, it doesn’t exist, it’s random, it depends on bonding

Someone needs to do testing

[red helm]

@gray wasp Long story short. Arabians have great stats, but run super easy. If that bugs you, try to find something like a Thorobred, Turko, or Missouri Fox Trottor(MFT).

[vagrant temple]

I use a gypsy nob

[red helm]

Also, also, try to craft a Saddle from the Trapper, those give a stat boost to any horse you own.

[vagrant temple]

It’s as skittish as an Arabian

[ruby pewter]

I love my turko from tumbleweed<3 ill never use any other horse ever

[red helm]

Also, Also, Also, don't worry to horribly about horse stats to much, find a horse that you think looks cool. That's the biggest thing.

[red helm]

I got the Turko from Blackwater, and have been enjoying that one.

[gray wasp]

Well my horse is just a simple tan all around, I'll try and see if the horse I got in chapter 1 is still around.

[compact oxide]

I use fox trotter

[red helm]

If you didn't sale the Raven Shire that Hosea gave you, it's quite a cool one.

[prime estuary]

Its definitely random

Some horses run others don't

[gray wasp]

I sold it /shrug

oops

lol

[red helm]

Not a huge deal. That coat is unique, unfortunately, but you can find other shires all over. But, eh.

[ruby pewter]

ditch the morgan and go find a mustang in the wild its good all around until u can pay up for a top tier horse

[compact oxide]

If i want to see tier list i need to pay?

[red helm]

If you do want a nice horse, there is a Andalusian that sometimes appears at the Brandywine drop(Waterfall), west of Annesburg. I used it for quite a long time as Arthur.

[ruby pewter]

yes, unless you want that white arabian

but theres much better options

[compact oxide]

Im using Missouri rn

[ruby pewter]

ya

u said that

real good horse tbh

[compact oxide]

Oki

[lethal estuary]

I beat RDR2.

I’m going to buy the original Redemption this week then Revolver after that.

[red helm]

Missouri's are nice, but hard to get before the Epilogue.

[steep epoch]

just get gold bars and become a god like a pro-gamer

I always get all the gold bars when I start over, easy fucking money.

[red helm]

That would require knowing where the gold bars are.

[steep epoch]

are you saying you don't have several maps with different marking types on them to know where everything is?

[red helm]

If my brain counts, then yes.

[steep epoch]

good.

[red helm]

However, I was refering to new players not having that knowledge.

[ruby pewter]

does cooking meat make it worth more money in story?

[red helm]

Hrm... never thought to see if you could sale cooked meat.

[civic nest]

Pretty sure you can't

[red helm]

Yeah, I'd assume not as well.

[hidden moss]

I just beat rdr for the third time and i don’t regret it:))

[red helm]

But, I just always keep it and eat it myself, so....

[red helm]

Nice.

[hidden moss]

Mhm my favorite horse in the game is the rose Arabian

[keen birch]

[red helm]

Red arabian is pretty, yeah.

No links in this channel, go to #red-dead-media for those.

[hidden moss]

No not the red one

Oh i meant the gray one

It just said on the coat rose bay

[red helm]

Ahh, wasn't sure which you meant.

[hidden moss]

Yes

What is your opinion on Arthur dying?

[red helm]

Well, the red chestnut arabian, is my favorite for looks.

[hidden moss]

Hmmm

Mine is prob the tiger bay mustang

Also one thing that is helpful to me is stealing them from the stable

[red helm]

Honestly, I kind of knew it was coming rather earlier, because of the name of the game, Plus I played RDR1 a long time ago, so, was no shock. But, of course sad.

[hidden moss]

The expensive horses

Yes

I kinda don’t like John tho

He’s cool and all but Arthur’s better

[red helm]

John was way cooler in 1. He is isn't horrible in 2, but.... eh.. kind of a shadow of the 1 version.

[hidden moss]

Indeed

[kindred jackal]

not a very good iteration of the character in 2

[red helm]

In my first play through, I did honestly think they were going to have us play as Sadie at one point.

[kindred jackal]

relegated to an occasional mission companion because they rewritten Arthur to be in his position at Dutch's side

[hidden moss]

Sadie is awesome but why did Dutch leave Micah and then

Come back to him and mount Hagen

[red helm]

Who knows, Dutch definitely was not right in the head, for a number of reasons.

The Trolley accident being the main reason.

[kindred jackal]

i guess he was just in the mission for brownie points

same with another forced line about Arthur from John during the standoff

[hidden moss]

Yk I’m that stand off with Micah and Dutch you can shoot one of them

You just get shot in the process

[kindred jackal]

he says "arthur saved my life" to literally everyone, but even then him saying it to micah seems dumb

he wouldnt care

[red helm]

Indeed, Micah wouldn't give a crap about that.

[kindred jackal]

neither did i, jesus rockstar

[hidden moss]

But John is kinda a dumbass

Tbh

[kindred jackal]

no he isnt lol

exactly why the second games iteration of him is bad

[hidden moss]

Sadie and Charles John: Arthur saved my life rains fall and John: Arthur saved my life it just doesn’t make sense

[gray wasp]

"Does this trolley go to Tahiti?"

[kindred jackal]

just nerfed his charisma and intelligence points straight up

[red helm]

Right, like, they were sort of making him a dumb ass in the Epilogue, but then he definitely wasn't in RDR1.... so... ugh

[kindred jackal]

yeah, quite inconsistent

[red helm]

Ha, totally does.

[kindred jackal]

i mean 1899 version i guess i could deal with that sometimes, but epilogue is so close to RDR1 and hes nothing like himself

[gray wasp]

I love how on my map theres just a huge gap now between Valentine and Saint Denis

[red helm]

The epilogue had so much potential, I kept waiting for him to change into the RDR1 version, and it kept 'almost' happening, like when he killed the Larimee gang and did the Pose, and then after he killed Micah... or even the Mission with Sadie to get the Del Lobo guy... But... Nope, just kept reverting back to the ding dong..

[kindred jackal]

yeah...

i guess RDR2 just cared about doing its own thing rather than the prequel stuff

[gray wasp]

Lol

(wow, even the first Red Dead looks good graphics wise...)

[red helm]

I quite enjoyed 1's dirty/gritty graphics.

[kindred jackal]

yeah, i prefer the western feel of it more

[gray wasp]

it has a feel to it, doesnt it?

yeah somethng about these games is just...amazing. You really feel the hard work that got put into it

[kindred jackal]

RDR2 looks very good for PS4 and Xbox One, but it's more of a triple A game look and feel

like the art style and ambient music could be from other games if i didnt know better

[gray wasp]

ye, I was NOT expecting it to look this good on Xbox 1

[kindred jackal]

yeah, pushing the limits of the consoles near the end of their life spans like GTA V did

[gray wasp]

aaah, dont phrase it like that...

[kindred jackal]

wdym

[gray wasp]

"end of their life spans"

make them seem really old

[kindred jackal]

huh

well true

[ruby pewter]

my game just froze

and idk when the last time i saved was

[gray wasp]

Xbox 1 is still good

even if new things are out

[kindred jackal]

i still use my Xbox 360 so i dont consider its life span to be over

mostly just RDR and GTA IV, those games alone are worth keeping the console

[gray wasp]

I still have a Nintendo Wii and a Game Boy

so-

[kindred jackal]

yeah i also still have a Wii

[gray wasp]

tbh the Wii is like 75% of my childhood