red-dead-singleplayer

[thorny cargo]

well obviously arthur. but im talking about gang member deaths aside from him

kierans was brutal

[vestal shard]

Kieran's

[coarse egret]

Same

[coarse egret]

Yeah ofc i meant that to

O

[vestal shard]

Bro went missing and only one person cared enough to ask around the camp about him

poor lad, blud didn't even like, murder anyone or anything it

[coarse egret]

Yeah did you know you can hear his screaming voices in the woods right before his death?

[vestal shard]

he just did chores for the gang

[coarse egret]

Sean and kieran worst death for me

[vestal shard]

you got vid of that?

[coarse egret]

Hosea and lenny ofc aswell but sean hit me like a rock

[coarse egret]

I saw it on tiktok

Ill see if if find it

Go in media @vestal shard

[thorny cargo]

search it up. its not exactly confirmed, it might just be lemoyne raiders, however its a common theory

[vestal shard]

Kieran hit me the worst cuz like, he's (almost) the most innocent death (molly's wins)

He was forced to work for the odriscolls, kidnapped then tortured by the gang, and even when joined, almost everyone belittled him, he never like, planned or do any robberies, he just did horse work while Billy kept harrassing him

[coarse egret]

Yess

[vestal shard]

Hell he was even more innocent than the camp girls given he never did any robberies for the van der linde gang

Bro was just trying to live, and he got punished for it

It's just such a tragic character, he didn't deserve any of that

[coarse egret]

Fr

[vestal shard]

Can't find it

Oh ok found it

I was on rdr2-media instead of the general one

mb

[coarse egret]

Yes

[vestal shard]

Who's your fav rdr2 character that isn't a gang member?

[coarse egret]

Ooo

[vestal shard]

Y'know like the strangers or npcs

Mine's Albert Mason

I love that guy

[coarse egret]

Does trawlawny count?

If not

Uhh

[vestal shard]

It can also be an antagonist

I really liked Angelo Bronte

[coarse egret]

Hercule i think his name was

On guarma

[vestal shard]

Oh the leader of the rebels?

Or am I mistaking him?

[coarse egret]

Yeah

I really liked guarma

But ch3 was goated

[midnight ocean]

sister calderon

[vestal shard]

people really do not give her credit for that I'm afraid scene

all of her words, the va's work

she really got Arthur to open up

also, she's a badass on undead nightmare

[civic mulch]

Alden

[coarse egret]

@vestal shard what is your honor?

[vestal shard]

that mustache is CRAZYYY he got it on

[vestal shard]

high honor as always, just my preference

[coarse egret]

Heh mine might be the lowest rn🥹

[oblique quiver]

low honor superiority

[vestal shard]

that's aight

ain't no wrong way to play the game

unless you like, idk, play without using guns

then yeah I guess that's a wrong way to play it

[pseudo solstice]

Howdy fellers

[vestal shard]

yeehaw

[pseudo solstice]

So I joined this server for modding help and I was wandering if this is a channel for mod help or not

[thorny cargo]

depends

[coarse egret]

My first time playing story

Yes i will go for the money

Yes i will be low honor in epilogue

[thorny cargo]

if its about a mod you have already, you can ask, but we cant suggest mods or how to install them etc

[oblique quiver]

high honor go for money is better imo

[pseudo solstice]

I’m pretty much tryna get help cause I think I messed up and the mods didn’t enable

[oblique quiver]

cos with high honor go back for money you can slash Micah’s eye

[pseudo solstice]

Okay

[coarse egret]

I want rdr3 to be more about black water

And how the gang formed

Maybe even playing as like dutch

[vestal shard]

Nah, the point was revenge le bad, helping John is the high honor choice imo

[coarse egret]

Or hosea

[oblique quiver]

I can help you with mods twiniliosis

[coarse egret]

Or maybe not hosea

[oblique quiver]

Dm me and I’ll help

[coarse egret]

But dutch

[pseudo solstice]

Ok

[vestal shard]

In fact, if not having honor maxed out, choosing to help john does in fact give you honor lol

[midnight ocean]

tbf i think shes replaced by swanson in that scene if you dont meet the requirements right

[vestal shard]

Like the little pop up sound and icon

[midnight ocean]

so some people might not have even seen that

[coarse egret]

I will do low honor money🥹

My next playthrough will be high honor

Maybe

50/50🥹

[oblique quiver]

Well yeah but I’m saying by having high honor and going back for the money, you can cut Micah’s eye that will give him a scar that shows in the epilogue and also a line from Micah about the scar

[vestal shard]

I've never encountered Swanson's since I always do side missions, is it the exact same scene? Like, does Arthur say the same

[coarse egret]

What's y'all's favorite chapter?

[thorny cargo]

3

[vestal shard]

Yeah, but the gang remembers that decision as they agree Arthur would've wanted revenge when riding to Micah's location since he did left John in order to get the money

[coarse egret]

Same

[vestal shard]

As you mention, even Micah taunts John about it

[coarse egret]

The last mission is my favorite in ch3

[thorny cargo]

my favorite mission is revenge is a dish best eaten

[vestal shard]

My fav is chapter 2, I love it

It's so funny and chill

and it has the OBJECTIVELY best mission in the entire game

and all of times

of any single game

[coarse egret]

I think its the same mission

[vestal shard]

Lenyyyyy!!!

Lenny ma boah!

[coarse egret]

Short walk in a pretty town is goated i think

[coarse egret]

Wait no i meant Bloods feuds, ancient and modern

[vestal shard]

drinking mission solos

[coarse egret]

😭

[vestal shard]

My top 3 is:

-Lenny drinking mission
-House building mission
-Braithwate's raid mission

[midnight ocean]

i have no idea tbh

[vestal shard]

Idk the names, I don't read

[midnight ocean]

goat

[midnight ocean]

i must be the only mf who hates the lennay mission

[thorny cargo]

i know right

[thorny cargo]

no i dislike it too LMAO

in some aspects

[civic mulch]

Joint between 2 and 3, because life is good and everyone is happy until A Short Walk In A Pretty Town, and my favourite missions from those chapters are The First Shall Be Last (because Sean is hilarious), and Sodom, Back To Gomorrah (because of the big take, and Bill's rant at the beginning)

[midnight ocean]

thank you

i am vindicated

[thorny cargo]

good base mission but its so overrated

[midnight ocean]

i HATE slow walk missions in games

[vestal shard]

it's aight, we all dislike objectively good things

For example, I didn't like spirited away

[midnight ocean]

stop fucking slowing my walk

[coarse egret]

I hate down to my heart

Like

Very bottom

[midnight ocean]

you can leave now

[thorny cargo]

OH my god i HATE walking in camp

STOP!!!!

[midnight ocean]

they really expect you to pick up that bag and haul it across camp for some honor points lol

[coarse egret]

When you walk on Guarma after being captured

[midnight ocean]

no fuckin thank you

[coarse egret]

ITS so Slow

[midnight ocean]

at least theres like tension in that scene

[coarse egret]

Oh

[vestal shard]

I also disliked the godfather

[thorny cargo]

i know if i was doing that myself id be hauling ass 😭 just let me run

[midnight ocean]

ok now im lobbying for a ban

[vestal shard]

dislikes slowness
plays rdr2

[coarse egret]

😭

Guys

Whats yall favorite missions

[thorny cargo]

that is entirely different bye. do you enjoy walking slow across the camp?

[coarse egret]

Like the icon

[vestal shard]

Ah yes, I hate slow things, I will now proceed to play the game where you pick up each item at a time

[coarse egret]

For example dutch missions have D

Sadies have S A

[vestal shard]

Ye

[coarse egret]

I like M and D🥹

[vestal shard]

wait

what does MD mean

[coarse egret]

Uh

Idk 🥹

[vestal shard]

wut

[coarse egret]

Oh md

Uh

[vestal shard]

typo yeah

I get the SA one

[midnight ocean]

yeah that very first mission kills me on replays lol

[thorny cargo]

sadies, because i love sadie and it makes me happy to see her missions

[vestal shard]

but what's the MD one

[midnight ocean]

slow ass walk through the snow then having to loot sadies house

[coarse egret]

Maybe marko dragic

[coarse egret]

D and M for me

And maybe L

Okay yeah L too

[vestal shard]

Eh, I loved it, all of it, first few hours were slow, color me surprise, the rest of the game is slow too

[coarse egret]

Hosea missions are to boring

[midnight ocean]

hit me with a ?

[vestal shard]

I like, I like slow things

[coarse egret]

🥲

[midnight ocean]

oh wait thats just stranger missions

[coarse egret]

First chapter was boring tbh🥹

[midnight ocean]

in gta 4 some missions where you havent met the mission giver yet the icon pops up as a ?

[vestal shard]

And I loved it

[midnight ocean]

instead of the letter

very spooky

[vestal shard]

If I could Id post that

the punisher gif

Hell I loved it!

[midnight ocean]

the slow parts arent so bad the first time around but on replays it can suck

[coarse egret]

I will be trying to do everything in my next playthrough

Like

All side quests and stuff

[vestal shard]

True, specially when trying gold medals

[thorny cargo]

first chapter you like for a few playthroughs. then it gets tiring after a few more cuz you want to get to the good stuff, but i do take my time to enjoy it

[coarse egret]

Money in story mode tho🥹

And how you get the law🥹

[midnight ocean]

short walk in a pretty town is my favorite mission because theres no horse ride lmao

[coarse egret]

Same

I like it

[vestal shard]

I just think the game was obviously made to be played without in a rush, that's why replays and mission golds feel so jarring

[thorny cargo]

i love massive amounts of enemies to kill, its satisfying

[coarse egret]

Personally any Shooting Mission is goated

Rest are ahh

Except maybe a few idk

[vestal shard]

You have yet to see the vision, all of chapter 1 IS good stuff too

[midnight ocean]

yeah same, i like the epilogue ones where john and charles gotta kill like 100 skinner bros

[thorny cargo]

i have no problem with the steady pace of the game. thats not our issue. its the slow walks.

[vestal shard]

I love all the slow boring ass things as much as the frenetic missions

[thorny cargo]

it is, but after a few times it gets repetitive as theres no free roam.

[coarse egret]

We all think the course of true love is the worst mission in all of red dead

[thorny cargo]

not me

[vestal shard]

nah

[thorny cargo]

those are some of my favorites

[vestal shard]

who is we

[coarse egret]

how?

😭

[vestal shard]

u speaking french?

[coarse egret]

Its sooo boring

[thorny cargo]

i love a good romance

💚

[vestal shard]

they were cute

[coarse egret]

Horsing around back and forth then driving a protest truck💔🥹

[vestal shard]

I think the only missions I actually just didn't enjoy or like were the guarma ones

[thorny cargo]

its fun

[coarse egret]

Then driving to a old war Battlefield

[vestal shard]

Even on replays it's just

eh

[coarse egret]

Guarma was goated wdym

[vestal shard]

I don't hate it, but I don't find myself having a good time either

[thorny cargo]

the guarma ones are fun for the dialogue especially!

[coarse egret]

What do yall think about the Theorie

S

Like how dutch got a brain injury after the trolley craah

[thorny cargo]

which ones

[coarse egret]

S

[thorny cargo]

no

[vestal shard]

I'm sure it's objectively good, I just didn't care for it, I'd skip all of guarma is it was up to me

[coarse egret]

Wdym no?

[midnight ocean]

ok actually my favorite mission is archeology for beginners, i just liked short walk a lot while i was doing gold medals because it was so fun and easy

[coarse egret]

Alr alr

[thorny cargo]

he definitely got a concussion but if youre insinuating the theory is that brain issue was what influenced his actions, i disagree

[thorny cargo]

archeology for beginners 🥹

[midnight ocean]

i think it had an effect but i think the thing people get wrong is that the injury made him evil

he was already evil and selfish, but i think the injury makes him more unhinged and reckless

[vestal shard]

Sometimes rdr2 REALLY takes you out of the immerssion with the fact it is still a videogame

Arthur: Here's one of the most traumatic experiences I've ever had to encounter which haunts me every-

Rainsfall: hold on cowpoke imma get some of me herbs

[coarse egret]

Not in the end of Arthurs life i think that was more Micah manipulations but there is like Theories that he became cannibal after that

[thorny cargo]

ya

[thorny cargo]

the cannibal theory i have no idea what to think

[coarse egret]

I think it could be true

[midnight ocean]

i dont know this one lol

is this a rdr1 theory

[thorny cargo]

no

[thorny cargo]

cuz of the human skulls in the beaver hollow cave

[midnight ocean]

i can see rdr1 dutch eating people

[thorny cargo]

i believe

its been a few years since ive heard abt it

[midnight ocean]

isnt that just from the murfrees you clear out of there?

[thorny cargo]

yes, but uh i cant remember the details let me look it up

[vestal shard]

I find it rubbish to think Dutch was always terrible, like, he literally had nothing to gain by taking Sadie in, matter of fact, it made matters worse, another mouth to feed on desperate times where they barely got to eat for the gang already

I just don't think he was always like the Dutch from the later chapters

[midnight ocean]

he had the same thing to gain he had when he brought in every other member

[thorny cargo]

wait it is going into rdr1 nvm, the theory is that rdr1 dutch is a cannibal

[midnight ocean]

a potentially loyal soldier

[vestal shard]

Difference being, they weren't starving back then

[midnight ocean]

were they ever starving? i think dutch just wanted to grow the gang

[vestal shard]

? Pearson literally says they barely had food to eat

[midnight ocean]

when

[thorny cargo]

@midnight ocean "there's a theory that Dutch became a cannibal in RDR1. If you go up to his cave in Cochinay after his death, you'll find several human bones, like skulls, and femur bones around a fire pit."

[midnight ocean]

in the mountains?

[vestal shard]

Chapter 1 the hunting deer mission

Yeah

[midnight ocean]

yeah but theyre on their way out, thats just a temporary setback

[vestal shard]

The reason they went in Sadie's place for food and supplies

[vestal shard]

?? That's still nearly starving and dying to cold

Taking Sadie in just made matters worse as it was another mouth to feed on a dire situation

[midnight ocean]

yeah that i can buy

i remember him being way crazier in rdr1

[vestal shard]

Weren't there like

[thorny cargo]

my guess is that even dutch noticed sadies potential. "she has a wild look in her eye" as stated by charles

[vestal shard]

human bones

at his cave?

[thorny cargo]

yes

[thorny cargo]

yup

[vestal shard]

cannibal dutch is awesone

[midnight ocean]

and another soldier

[vestal shard]

I love that theory

[midnight ocean]

or at least a worker

hes making an investment

[vestal shard]

A worker at what, in chapter 1 you go back and see none of the girls working

Matter of fact they have to spend time comforting Sadie instead of working

That's how bad things were

[midnight ocean]

dawg they know theyre not gonna be in the mountains forever. they're there very briefly

they just need to get through the mountains to the other side

[vestal shard]

They nearly died up there, there were desperate for food and supplies

They had to stay in the mountains to avoid the law

[midnight ocean]

and they found food at the same time as they found sadie

[vestal shard]

Then waited thaw to get moving agahn

[vestal shard]

Which wasn't even enough as the next mission requires you to go hunting at Pearson's request as there wasn't enough for everyone

[midnight ocean]

and then you get a couple deer and everything is fine lol

no one starves

[vestal shard]

That's all in the future tho, that's what happens next, Dutch took Sadie in without a guarantee she'd be of any use, in the moment, she was just another mouth to feed

[midnight ocean]

also no one is like "wtf another mouth to feed?"

[midnight ocean]

he did the same with everyone else in the gang lol

[vestal shard]

Arthur's and Charles conversation do say that, actually

[midnight ocean]

its an investment like i said

[vestal shard]

No one else in the gang was recruited when they were starving and freezing to death

[midnight ocean]

or maybe dutch wants to avoid appearing heartless to the rest of the gang

they might feel pretty bad about leaving a woman to die, especially after dutch just murdered the girl on the ferry

[vestal shard]

I don't think Dutch's thinking would've come up that looking good was a good expense at having another mouth to feed when they were starving

It just doesn't make sense

[midnight ocean]

it makes perfect sense lol

[vestal shard]

It doesn't

[midnight ocean]

its not like someone else has to die so sadie can live

they have enough food for everyone

so dutch made a smart choice

[vestal shard]

They didn't??????

[midnight ocean]

because sadie proved to be a capable fighter

[vestal shard]

That was the point of the chapter 1

[midnight ocean]

so who starved?

[vestal shard]

They were desperate

[midnight ocean]

i dont remember anyone dying

[vestal shard]

Technically one died, but not out of hunger

They only survived the hunger barely thanks to Arthur and Charles

[midnight ocean]

okay so that means they were able to get enough food to keep everyone alive

so it was a smart investment

[vestal shard]

Whef Dutch found Sadie, they did not have said food

[midnight ocean]

remember that they had just lost like four people in the ferry disaster

[vestal shard]

They only bately survived thanks to Arthur and Charles

[midnight ocean]

it makes sense dutch would want to add some new members soon after

[vestal shard]

On the deer mission

They were already at low supplies to even feed themselves

[midnight ocean]

sigh lol

you're just not hearing me

[vestal shard]

Yet Dutch went out of his way to take another person in

[vestal shard]

You keep speaking of chapter 1 as if they weren't starving

[midnight ocean]

someone who wound up being very valuable to the gang later on

[vestal shard]

They did not know that though, only Charles had an intuition

For chapter 1 and 2 Sadie just stayed at camp

At the latter she didn't even do any work, you'd just find her sitting

[midnight ocean]

yeah she was traumatized lmao

[vestal shard]

Well yeah, I'm not saying she didn't have a reason

[midnight ocean]

but then look what happened

people can change and grow

[vestal shard]

I'm just saying, they had no guarantee she'd be of use

Dutch took her in when it added another mouth to feed

[midnight ocean]

im not claiming they did lmao

you're just not reading what im writing

i never said she was guaranteed to be useful

do you understand what the word investment means

[vestal shard]

Dutch couldn't have taking Sadie in as a investment given at the time they took her in they were already low in supplies, it made matters worse

[midnight ocean]

but there was no negative consquence? no one died, they were able to keep everyone fed and move on

[vestal shard]

Dutch has an habit of keeping people who aren't really doing much for the camp at all

Molly

[midnight ocean]

dutch keeps molly because shes his concubine bro

[vestal shard]

The literal next chapter has pearson telling you they have no food because there's too many people

She's one of said new people

That's a bad consequence

That they had to fix

[midnight ocean]

then they would have been really fucked if mac davey and jenny were still around lol

[vestal shard]

There's also Swanson

[vestal shard]

Pretty much so

[vestal shard]

Uncle does help every ten years according to Arthur

[midnight ocean]

well swanson may have served a purpose at some point but by the time we meet him hes kinda just a bumbling drunk/drug addict

[vestal shard]

If you find Dutch and Swanswon talking to eachother at camp, it seems that, Dutch recruited him as an effort of moral support to the group, since he himself doesn't believe in god's rules yet admits he respects Swanson's devotion

He used to be a preacher, after all

Unfortunately said moral support didn't work as he ended up an alcoholic drug addict which the group had to keep taking care of and taking pity on him

He did help from time to time tho!

We do see him trying help John with his "medicine" and giving Arthur a pickpocketed watch

[vernal crane]

Like risking your life to save him from a train

[vestal shard]

Yeah

[midnight ocean]

would dutch have rode out onto those tracks i wonder

[vernal crane]

doubt it

they left John

[vestal shard]

Micah makes a good point that there's quite a few members on the camp that are deadweight, but that's the thing, they aren't just an efficient gang, they are a family

[vernal crane]

and Arthur when he got jumped trying to save Javier

[vestal shard]

They don't keep people around just for efficiency, it's also just kinship and companionship

[vernal crane]

Without the women they wouldn't be so good, i reckon

[vestal shard]

Oh yeah, the women are NOT deadweight

[vernal crane]

frfr

[vestal shard]

Arthur made that clear to Micah

"I ain't see you lift a finger back in camp"

[vernal crane]

they all help in their own way

[midnight ocean]

dutch also has this idea to "reform society" which he wouldnt be able to do with just a small crew of gunmen

[vestal shard]

Not really... Even Arthur admits it right after the dialogue I told you

"Oh yeah? And what about Swanson and Molly? Do they do any work?

Arthur: "That's different..."

[vernal crane]

I meant the women

[vestal shard]

I mean, Molly is one of the women

[vernal crane]

like tilly and karen

[vestal shard]

Yeah, those are all, women

[vernal crane]

yeah, though molly don't count lol

[vestal shard]

But

She's a woman

[vernal crane]

yeah..but she just sits there all day

and gets yelled at by dutch

[vestal shard]

Even Arthur reluntantly admits Molly doesn't pull her weight, when greeting her, specially at Chapter 3 or 4 (even 2)

Arthur sometimes will ask if she feels like helping with some work, she rejects and Arthur simply moves on

[vernal crane]

what i'm saying is the ones that help, make the difference

[vestal shard]

Arthur knows there's deadweight on the camp but while he is indeed concerned and wants them to change, he doesn't seem upset about it

[midnight ocean]

yeah dutch just lets her stay out of the kindness of his heart lol

[vestal shard]

Said kindness coming with a neglectful partner

[midnight ocean]

i was being sarcastic

[vestal shard]

Even on chapter 2, with all supplies maxed out, Molly asks Dutch on a date and he just goes "Maybe, who knows"

[vernal crane]

...

[vestal shard]

I know, I was trying to add to it

"I love you, Dutch"

"Thank you, Molly"

Oh my god bro

We never fucking hear him say he loves her

[vernal crane]

even Arthur made the effort for his wife and son

[vestal shard]

Arthur was kinda deadbeat but honest about it, admitted he wouldn't be there all the time but kept checking in every month to see if all's wells

[vernal crane]

he made it clear what he was but still went and visited

[vestal shard]

Dutch is technically always there, but pays no mind to her, thus essentially not actually being there, and whenever Molly confroted him about it, he'd just go "But I HAVE been here!" Which yeah, he was technically present

[vernal crane]

but not mentally

[vestal shard]

But he never did anything with Molly, merely justifying himself as "but I'm already here"

Classic manipulation

He was a dishonest deadbeat, at least Arthur was honest

The true couple was Hosea and his wife, partners in crime

If you wanna have romance as an outlaw, date an outlaw!

Shrimple as that

[vernal crane]

100%

[vestal shard]

Invincible doest this too lmao "wow it is far much easier to date as superheroes insteas of one supe one civilian lmao"

[lone mantle]

Does anyone know where dutch is in chapter 4? I finaly got his pipe but i cant find him anywhere to give it to him

[midnight ocean]

if hes not at camp hes probably part of a mission marker

[turbid rampart]

John is a bottom, I just can't prove it

[autumn lynx]

i already know this trust me

[peak heath]

Dutch only lives himself

[lapis sable]

Dutch is the best man i know in game. I always loved all his missions, even the ones where he starts acting crazy

So long as i get to shoot and mutilate folk i'm happy!

[midnight ocean]

no one cares

[small oar]

Made it to Chapter 5

Lots of action in my playthrough....stealing horses, getting into a huge fire fight at
Braithwaite Manor

oh and rescued a kid

[lapis panther]

That is what Dutch does. Most of the gang's members were saved by Dutch and brought in when they were at their lowest. Swanson and Micah are the only two members who saved Dutch's life

[small oar]

Author seems to highly respect Dutch...like a father figure

[midnight ocean]

dutch and hosea met him when he was pretty young so yeah

and it was just the three of them for a bit

[lapis panther]

Dutch also did the right thing bringing Sadie in

Only a callous heartless bastard would leave a widow who has just lost her home and husband to fend for herself.

[small oar]

I feel like I did a lot today in game

[lapis panther]

Towards the end of Chapter two, you see her helping more with the cooking. By chapter three she'd had enough of Pearson ordering her around and that's when the shopping trip and Sadie the gunwoman starts lol

[worldly saffron]

How do I get my horse to have the fire effect?

[remote temple]

is anyone playing rdr 2 story mode still ?? or its more fun to play online ?

[midnight ocean]

rdr1?

[midnight ocean]

up to the individual

plenty of people still play story tho

[glossy crow]

If you're talking about rdo
Those are mods.

If you're talking about Rdr1 Undead Nightmare, you can catch one of the Apocalypse horses

[midnight ocean]

war

[sand inlet]

exactly the entire game dutch is on taking revenge and arthur is saying revenge is a
fools game

[sand inlet]

every plays story mode its the goat and rdo is like all other rockstar online games its fun but it does not last

[lapis sable]

If only we can bring back cut missions

[coarse egret]

I just got the "you got tuberculosis son"

🥹

[coarse egret]

In Dutch's camp in rdr1 in tall tree's there are human skulls in his room placed like decorations with multiple hip bones

The hip is where on the body you have the most meat

[final grove]

Anyone had trouble to deliver algernon wasp request?

[final grove]

And how to rob 50 dollars without the trains? Lol

[winged crystal]

Did you already get pickpocketed in both saint denis and Van horn?

[midnight ocean]

why without train

[civic mulch]

Nick oil wagons and sell them to Seamus

I think oil wagons are the only ones that you’ll get 50 for, all the rest of the highly valuable ones like logs get you 40 maximum

[glossy crow]

Am I the only one who get's pissed when people claim "you cannot kill Sheriff Freeman!!" (Tumbleweed Sherriff)
Even though you can.

[fading bobcat]

I got a dead or alive wanted bounty in Valentine 😭

Welp

[robust phoenix]

Do the murfree brood just shoot your horse on purpose? An ambush started with a gunshot and getting thrown out of the saddle but I wasnt hurt, then when I get back on I see a shotgun hit on my horses side

[glossy crow]

I noticed that too, they particulary shoot at your horse as some also shoot you

[robust phoenix]

asking because the event seems scripted, you dont usually get thrown off your horse when it gets shot

and they ran away after shooting

[sand inlet]

how much are you wanted for in terms of money cause you can get dead or alive with a 50 buck or a 1500 buck

[final grove]

John blew the tracks

[final grove]

But i gotta rob people apparently
It's for bandit level 7 I think

[fading bobcat]

4500

[glossy crow]

Impossible btw😭

[brazen current]

[hidden moss]

Just Why

[marsh flint]

Did they release 60 fps or is it fake news

[glossy crow]

I don't think so

[midnight ocean]

luckily there's more than one set of train tracks

[harsh bloom]

Hi

[coarse egret]

Hello

[jade river]

The lighting literally changed 3 times for me on the mission where Jack gets taken

In the opening

Lmao

It changed from the standard lighting to like a blue tint and then changed the time of day to night time 💀

[jade river]

Why can’t I find my photo mode pictures on social club anymore?

[thorny cargo]

you have to upload them yourself,like in the game go and click upload to social club

im pretty sure

[jade river]

No like I mean there isn’t a photos tab or anything

Idk how to find it

[thorny cargo]

you have to specify rdr2 i think, im pretty sure it automatically assumes gta on the website

if there is no photos at all idk

[final grove]

Where do I go for the other?

[midnight ocean]

other what lol

[jade river]

There’s none on the website

No photos tab or anything

And yet there’s a section where I can check my exact fucking dollar amount in the single player campaign

I wasted like 30 minutes looking

[final grove]

For the other train to spawn

[jade river]

Yeah

[thorny cargo]

hm

[jade river]

Only crew, jobs and games

No clue if they for some reason removed it

[thorny cargo]

that means your friends tab isnt visible either?

[jade river]

It’s called social club and yet it’s hard to find any user made content

[jade river]

I think that’s there

[midnight ocean]

trains drive around the map all the time, blowing the tracks with john doesnt change that

[jade river]

No photos tab tho

[midnight ocean]

go to a train station and buy a ticket

then when the train arrives at the destination, rob it

[thorny cargo]

no idea why it isnt working, contact rockstar, sign in/out again, log in through a different device etc... troubleshoot for a while

[jade river]

I don’t feel like wasting another 30+ minutes rn

I already have

At least I found some cool shit ig

The gallery is pretty sick

The character stats are cool

[final grove]

Never saw another train, can't get a ticket anywhere

[thorny cargo]

wdym?

just go to a train station, like where you would get mail

[final grove]

"trains are currently unavailable"

[lone mantle]

Guys whats the best way to get my arthur at a good weight? Since i always seem to be underweight even though i feed him every time i can get food at the camp and whenever i make my own camp site (whats quite often since im hunting alot) i feed him 2-3 chunks of meat

[thorny cargo]

oh

[thorny cargo]

feed him regular meals, go to a saloon

in saint denis to be fancy

[lone mantle]

Should i feed him like after every mission?

[thorny cargo]

yeah i think that happens after you blow up the bridge but never checked myself. just follow the tracks you should find one eventually

[lone mantle]

Since idk how often to do it

[thorny cargo]

regular meals

breakfast, lunch, dinner

mines always starving but ive heard that works

[lone mantle]

dam ima go broke 🥀

[thorny cargo]

go get some gold bars

treasure maps

[lone mantle]

Where do i get treasure maps?

[thorny cargo]

have you done any at all?

you can get your first map from a treasure hunter north of flatneck station, at the cliff

[lone mantle]

I think ive done 1 treasure map since i remember something about a hidden stash in a tree

[thorny cargo]

that was probably for the debtor mission

[midnight ocean]

had no idea that happened

[thorny cargo]

me neither but the internet says so, ive never bought train tickets at that point lol

[marble stream]

there is a really scary creature following me

looks like a pig or something

[midnight ocean]

lol wtf

[cursive mulch]

Can any pc players help in #pc-technical-stuff

[marble stream]

i would but not a expert i wouldnt do you no help

[weak sable]

howdy chat.

[weak sable]

I've been needing to actually do the treasure hunting..

[dry osprey]

Oh it's a

[weak sable]

nah bro, that was MoOoLlLyy

[dry osprey]

Btw my profile picture is Arthur when he's gambling aka Gambther

And the revolver he's holding is the high roller

[weak sable]

the high roller is such a cool gun

[dry osprey]

Ik it goes perfect with my Arthur whenever he's gambling

[weak sable]

my 2nd fav, the LeMat looks best to me

[dry osprey]

The second revolver having my front pouch is calloway's

[weak sable]

i actually forgot to take his gun

[dry osprey]

Rip

How many playthroughs have you done

I'm on my second one

[weak sable]

same actually

trying to atleast hit 90%

[dry osprey]

I'm right now trying to do the Gambler challenge

I'm right now on challenge 5 of it

[chilly spade]

would dutch have killed micah if he admited to ratting instead of molly?

[chilly spade]

oh..

yeah thats absolute pain

[dry osprey]

If you want to know why I'm doing the Gambler challenges first go to Red Dead fashion

[chilly spade]

i wouldnt wish gambler 5 on my worst enemy

[lapis sable]

Nothing like gambler challenges to make me wanna put a bullet in my skull

I just focus gambler straight up just so i dont ever had to do it again each playthrough

[midnight ocean]

git gud lol

[chilly spade]

they fucking suck tho

i resorted to tiny task for that one blackjack one

[midnight ocean]

damn lol

i just put on a youtube vid and hammered it out

took like 2 hours

[chilly spade]

i was not bouta sit there for 5 hours lol

just put on tiny task and went to watch tv

and the dominoes one broke me

[midnight ocean]

dominoes kinda sucks yeah

[chilly spade]

i had to resort to a save editor

trust me i didnt wanna use it but i was playing dominoes for 6 hours

[midnight ocean]

ok it doesnt suck that bad lol

[flint dragon]

i wanted to do the challange where u kill 5 birds on a moving train

so i went to annesberg and got on a coal train

wprst part my phone was dead so all i could do there is nothing

[lapis sable]

When i did that, guards get pissed at me

[flint dragon]

i crouched and didnt move

but they didnt get angry at me getting on

and the 3 times i got on and off

[lapis sable]

I killed 5 birds, and 4 guards, and shot the engineer since i became wanted even when i didnt shoot the guards

[flint dragon]

hmm

[lapis sable]

Went full trevor on em

[flint dragon]

i came to annesberg trains cause they sometimes DONT care if u get on them

only when the trains about to leave u gotta crouch and hope for the best

[lapis sable]

Well... i did the challenge after Riggs station

[flint dragon]

hmm

if u get in a civvilian train the become HORRIDLY ANGRY

but a coal train they dont care

[lapis sable]

My god i think that's my mistake

I guess that's why i had to shoot the guards when they shot at me

[flint dragon]

cause in the game i think

you cant rob a coal train

but you can rob a civvilian trian

[lapis sable]

You can, but just the back compartment

Usually for premium cigs

[flint dragon]

no i stared at that coal train there was nothing

it was legit just one engineer

he was the only think to loot

[lapis sable]

Annesburg train ye

[midnight ocean]

probably better to wait til it starts moving then jump on

[flint dragon]

i didnt want to miss it

[lapis sable]

Well, challenge still done anyway

[flint dragon]

the problem is it ran over my warped brindle arabian

[midnight ocean]

lol rip

[flint dragon]

i got so angry

[midnight ocean]

yeah trains are a big killer of horses

[lapis sable]

The only difference is whether i had to do it clean or do it with 4 guards, and tons of civilians

[midnight ocean]

i always get nervous when i jump to the train from my horse

[flint dragon]

is there anyway to get the warped brindle agian before being john

cause thats my favorite state horse

[midnight ocean]

you can try to find it at the same spot again but if it died idk if it respawns

[flint dragon]

ill google

ill go now

[midnight ocean]

theres better arabians tho

[flint dragon]

ik

i tamed them all

all 3

[midnight ocean]

theres also two you can purchase

but one isnt until you're john

[flint dragon]

im still on chapter 2 im trying to 100% im on 46 on the downes misison

[midnight ocean]

and those are the two best ones

[flint dragon]

46%

[midnight ocean]

good that you're doing the challenges early

that helps a lot with the grind imo

[flint dragon]

any tips for herbalist 9

[midnight ocean]

yeah keep a running list of which herbs you've picked as soon as the challenge starts

[flint dragon]

im stuck here

[midnight ocean]

also you might wanna wait a bit

til you get the exotics side quest started

[flint dragon]

hmm

ok

[midnight ocean]

because for that you have to gather every single type of orchid

which are also needed for herbalist 9

[flint dragon]

the stupid guy in saint denis at chapter 4 above the city?

[midnight ocean]

yep

[flint dragon]

😠

AHH

[midnight ocean]

yeah its one of the worst parts of 100%

[flint dragon]

explorer is the worst part

[midnight ocean]

not if you just youtube it lol

[flint dragon]

question on explorer 2 can i just skip finding the 14 maps and just go strait to o creag

[midnight ocean]

dont think so

you just need to find ten treasures

no shortcut

[flint dragon]

nah im going to cry myself to sleep as i play better than wolves

[midnight ocean]

lol

btw since you're still so early id recommend this guide

its in the pins

[flint dragon]

sure

[midnight ocean]

it spreads everything out for efficiency and to avoid burnout

has a big list with videos to go along with everything

.

[final grove]

"my last boy" or "our best selves" should be the mission after going to aberdeen farm?

[midnight ocean]

after my last boy and before our best selves is when you should go

dont forget to rob their lockbox in the little side shed thing before you leave your money

[final grove]

ooh

[midnight ocean]

its not much but you might as well grab it lol

[final grove]

outside the main house?

[midnight ocean]

yeah its connected to the house but is only accessed through an outside door

its weird its like a shed thats attached to the house lol

[final grove]

ill try

suite privvy

[midnight ocean]

think its to the right when you go in

[final grove]

before you go into the house?

can you start talking to the fat dude before going into the shed?

will the trapper still have all my stuff with john? T_T

[midnight ocean]

yes

[midnight ocean]

i think so

but yeah you wont lose clothes or guns or challenge progress or anything like that

you just lose money, horses and most of your satchel items

[warm tendon]

Yo best way to get money in story mode

As mr morgan

[jade river]

I feel so dumb I just had to scroll to the right 😭

[shy bear]

i got to st denis and i lowkey dont feel like exploring this shithole

place is so depressing

[quasi sapphire]

yo what should i do as john

[dense gate]

Jump

[quasi sapphire]

wow ok

[marsh flint]

St denis is such a horrid place

I hate it

I hate walking in it

[worn totem]

How bad is rd online I if the first experience is getting spawn killed I don't think I wanna try it

[spice whale]

not to bad

[spice whale]

mostly neutral tillu shoot sm1

[shy bear]

bro what the fuck? why is aim weapon even left click with npcs

this shit is dumb

[calm epoch]

chat, best way to stop a train for bandit challenge 10

[alpine flicker]

You don’t have to stop the train at all, just buy a train ticket (or jump on any train), rob some people and then get off

[calm epoch]

alr thx man

[livid wind]

I just got a nice saddle for my black shire

[crude thorn]

Everytime I get On rdr2, theres literally nobody around. wheres everyone at? lol

[flint dragon]

What's the best horses that dont look exotic but have wonders of stats

I was using warped brindle but he die

Also im on chapter 2 before downs mission

[boreal garden]

It seems like every opinion I see about Sadie Adler goes from
"The worst character ever created by man"
or
"The best character in the whole game"
There is no middle ground

[late lichen]

I finally finished chapter 2

[cursive mulch]

Can a pc player help me in #pc-technical-stuff

[obsidian thicket]

Do you guys think the m1899 pistol is too modern for rdr2?

[late lichen]

Yea but thats for the chapters, its reasonable to have them in the Epilouge tho

[obsidian thicket]

I agree

[coarse egret]

100 men vs "i gave you all i had"

[teal plaza]

I barely started playing online, I’m having a hard time trying to get started basically 😅 I know I need to get money and gold bars and so far the easiest (somewhat) has been doing bounty’s but then I run out of ammo and sometimes end up having to not finish my quest and going to buy more bullets and restarting the quest again. I’m like back and forth struggling on trying to finish quests and then needing to buy more ammo or even just the tonics or health stuff 🫠 so can someone show me the way of properly doing it?

I may have spent the money I had in the beginning already, on clothes first instead 🫠💀

[thorny cargo]

if youre inquiring about rdo, go to #rdo-chat or #rdr2-online-support . if youre strugging with running out of ammo, utilize other ways of killing, such as throwing knives and hatchets, or just your regular knife. you can die as many times as you like so theres not entirely a risk aside from running out of time. right now, bounties is definitely your best bet if youre just starting out. its a long grind, but eventually youll get enough gold for another role

[teal plaza]

Thank you so much!

[rapid tinsel]

Dug

[warm nimbus]

Howdy

Can i talk about rdr1 here aswell

[thorny cargo]

yup

[warm nimbus]

Great

When is rdr2 comming to switch 2

?

Lmao

[thorny cargo]

i doubt ever. its too high quality of a game to run on a switch.

[warm nimbus]

They have cyberpunk 2077

[ember ridge]

Congratulations to cyberpunk 2077

[warm nimbus]

Bro my pc runs rdr2 well if i ran cyberpunk it would collapse

[ember ridge]

They've probably made it viable to play on the switch

By downgrading graphics and stuff

And in my experience. Rdr2 is far more detailed then cyberpunk

[umbral wadi]

RDR one is great

[final grove]

maybe on switch 4

[warm nimbus]

Lmfao

[warm nimbus]

Agreed

[somber otter]

I shot two men in self defense

now the ENTIRE TOWN wants me DEAD

There’s like 50 red dots on my map

all of them are angry civies

[junior hatch]

oh no

[final grove]

goodbye honor

[candid kindle]

I did all hunting requests and i cant find mr hobbs invitation can any1 help

[thorny cargo]

look to see if its already in your satchel

youll have to wait a few days to get it after youve completed the hunting requests im pretty sure

[candid kindle]

I received the letter but i had to go so i saved the game and left when i came back the invitation was not there, it just says “ accept ms hobbs invitation “

[forest siren]

Yo what's the minimum requirements for rdr 1 to just run on an pc on minimum settings and fps mods

[thorny cargo]

did you read the letter when you got it the first time?

[candid kindle]

No

But it should be in the satchel

[thorny cargo]

have you checked the mailbox again already?

[candid kindle]

Yes

Its over

i have to do it again 😭

[thorny cargo]

no?

just go to her house and see if youre allowed to enter.

if you cant then youre glitched, but it doesnt mean you have to do it over again

after that id suggest restarting your game and console

[candid kindle]

none of that works but thanks for your help

[mint heart]

what should i do after completing the epilogue?

[empty kestrel]

go vist micah s body

[quartz jewel]

vist

[dense gate]

Close the game

[warm nimbus]

Start a new playthrough

My favorite rdr1 feature is the fame it's such a shame they don't have it in rdr2 it's so immersive

[mint heart]

I miss the duels

[marsh flint]

Duels are so peak

[dull solar]

Guys where can I find a black bear I’m struggling

Also I sold my legendary wolf pelt to the trapper but it won’t show anything craftable with it

[midnight ocean]

big valley or lagras

[midnight ocean]

you might need more pelts first

there's a legendary wolf outfit

[slate helm]

tall trees and lamoyne

[sudden briar]

Hey yall have yall ever seen a deer on a house randomly

Not sure if I still have the pic but I found one like a month ago and it was not my first time finding one like that

[thorny cargo]

its not uncommon for animals to accidentally spawn on buildings. happens with coyotes too

[sudden briar]

Oh thanks

[coarse egret]

I personally think tall trees is terrifying

Like not just riding around there

But when you look from a distance i just see the picture when dutch is seeing John in rdr1

Ill see if i find it

[midnight ocean]

just the other day lol

[coarse egret]

I forgot i cant even show it

Its when john uses binoculars tho

And dutch sees him

[empty patio]

I remember that time I was near Hanging Dog Ranch and a pack of wolves spawned on top of that stilt house where the two prisoners stayed

[frank gate]

who’s 100% the whole game?

[midnight ocean]

me

[frank gate]

how did you get every single animal i’m playing as john and i cannot find all the animals on like guarma and stuff

[midnight ocean]

you dont need the guarma ones

[frank gate]

ohhh okay that makes more sense

[lapis panther]

I think I have only seen it once. Looked weird

[lapis panther]

Aside from the areas already mentioned, Kamassa River and the road leading to Annesburg from Van Horn (you either get a black bear or cougar spawn here) are good spawn points too

[small oar]

I'm at the right location, at the right time frame yet the weather isn't as it shows on the map. I'm seeking "Bruce" aka the big ass gator

[thorny cargo]

what chapter are you in

[small oar]

4 I believe

today was another adventure involving Bronte

[thorny cargo]

it wont spawn until chapter 6

pretty sure absolutely confident

[small oar]

I see. okay then I think I'm stuck on 4

[thorny cargo]

good luck!

[small oar]

the last mission was Horsemen, Apocaypses

[small oar]

made it to Chapter 5

[worldly saffron]

A short walk in a pretty town is a bullshit name I hate this mission

[shy bear]

why des arthur keep getting off the horse/carriage after the mission in the middle of nowhere lmao
at least give us the option to fast travel to camp instantly

[warped ridge]

traveling in the game on horseback is part of the fun

sometimes I’ll run

I’m ran from tumbleweed to annesburg once with my horse following me

[obsidian thicket]

Some missions let you ride with the gang back to camp which act as fast travel if I remember correctly

[outer talon]

Where do I find a fast horse I'm in chapter 3 so far:/

[fickle lance]

If you go to a place in Saint Denis you can find a black Arabian horse but you will get wanted for horse theft if you take it straight away, it's at midnight. There is also the white Arabian at lake Isabella

[obsidian thicket]

Try to get the red Arabian it's a beautiful horse

[fickle lance]

That one too is food

Good*

[obsidian thicket]

I'm not gonna eat my horse

Anyways yeah I agree it's a great horse

[fickle lance]

Knowing Micah, you will

[outer talon]

What is saint denis

[outer talon]

Where do I get it:D

[fickle lance]

Google

[outer talon]

Kk

[obsidian thicket]

There's a few YouTube videos on it

[fickle lance]

It's next to Rhodes, just ride a little to the east and you'll see it

You said you were in chapter 3

[outer talon]

yes just new in chap 3

I mean just finished chap 2

[fickle lance]

You could have found it bc the first mission you go to Rhodes

[outer talon]

Ah

Idk cuz I've been playing for the whole day and after I got to chap 3 I saved my game and quit

[ornate void]

Can you still get the fastest horse in the game in ch2 via that one encounter in heart land oil fields

[stable ravine]

Whats the best war horse for shootouts (I'm using the war horse from Van Horn stables rn)

[robust phoenix]

Turkomans, some andalusian coats, one other ardennes coat, and one arabian coat have max health afaik

The black arabian and buell have 9/10 health and lots of horses have 8/10 or 7/10 health

[ivory sandal]

I’m about to do American venom then find some beautiful horses

[jaunty parrot]

Should I restart the whole story

Cattle rustler

[summer pier]

Finished RDR2

Ngl I still don't understand the micah hate

[limpid spindle]

so you didnt finish rdr2

[timber reef]

Hey, anyone who's an expert with rampage mod help me? recently downloaded it as my first mod, noticed some settings like max unlimited items dont save even with save and load settings can anyone help?

also is there a way to auto load wardrobes? same thing with horses and its stats, they don't save

[plucky fog]

Bro did not play rdr2

🧐

[summer pier]

I mean... the gang did kill thousands of people, massacred valentine, killed the grays and braithwaites, and ruined an entire buisness

Id say the gang kinda deserved it

[dull solar]

We got goodie two shoes over here

[summer pier]

Im just saying the hate is undeserved

[thorny cargo]

its not

i promise you that you are one of the few people out of the millions of rdr2 fans who think this

[small oar]

theres a 10 min cool down before my pics can be posted? 😕

also, I have a question about Lore...Dutch thinks someone set us up and I saw a video thumbnail on YouTube that pointed the finger at Micah being the Judas of the group

[thorny cargo]

youll see as the story goes on. dont get spoilered

[small oar]

Ahh. I started my suspicions after the robbery and we're all hanging out in some room nearby. Micah had the face of a guilty man

[shy bear]

the npcs in this game should just lowk look up infinite gold glitch if theyre broke

[stable ravine]

U prob didn't even get past Chapter 2

[summer pier]

We were basically war criminals

We massacred whole towns

[stable ravine]

You mean outlaws?

The Van der Linde gang never even fought in a war.

[summer pier]

Im pretty sure we genuinely murdered thousands

[stable ravine]

Any they massacred towns because of Cornwall and the Grays

And Micah too

[summer pier]

We wouldn't be in that mess if we didnt steal from Cornwall in the 1st place

[thorny cargo]

many of those being other outlaws and pinkertons, they avoided civilian deaths. i dont think you paid very much attention. im not painting them as good, but youre no better than a pinkerton if you think what micah did to their gang was "deserved"

why are you playing an outlaw game if youre spouting about their bad actions?

[stable ravine]

Correct.

[summer pier]

Im not saying that, I'm saying the gang deserved it in the end

Its still a fun game

[stable ravine]

Most fun after American Venom

[thorny cargo]

yeah, they probably did, but to say that micah wasnt in the wrong or that his hate is undeserved? you dont understand what happened at all

[summer pier]

Micahs main issue is that he played the part to well

He also massacred strawberry

[stable ravine]

Thats the Actor

[summer pier]

But the gang did alot more than that

[thorny cargo]

his main issue isnt that he ratted to the law about his gang, or that he manipulated the leader into doing what he wanted, convincing him to betray the men he felt were his sons at one point? are you even playing as arthur or are you just playing the side of the law, genuinely?

[stable ravine]

Actually, he ratted the gang to Agent Milton, the laws I don't believe so

[thorny cargo]

in the context of the story, thats what he did wrong. OBVIOUSLY he did more wrong. they're outlaws. its a story game, and in the story his hate is deserved

[thorny cargo]

yes, but the pinkertons work under the law, so im kinda including them there even tho they dont follow the rules at all lmao

[stable ravine]

Me too

[summer pier]

Are pinkertons even the law

Thought they were Cornwall men

[stable ravine]

Pinkertons are Agent Milton's men

Not Cornwall's men

[thorny cargo]

they're hired by the government to do their bidding since the law cant get caught doing illegal stuff

"armed security, private investigators, union-busters, and "private eyes""

theyre a detective agency but really just a lot of law-breakers in disguise, in the context of the game

[summer pier]

Im not mad that we play as the bad guys, I'm saying micah gets all the hate for being the good guy

[stable ravine]

Are u fr.

[summer pier]

Its not impossible to play as the story's antagonist

[stable ravine]

Micah annihilated half of Strawberry for his guns after you break him out of jail

And Rhodes too at the Gray's ambush

[thorny cargo]

okay, yes...? but like? how do you consider that undeserved, when youre playing as the bad guys in the game? it feels like youre playing on the wrong side here

[summer pier]

And we annihilated valentine, the grays, the braithwaites

[thorny cargo]

hes not a good guy at al

[stable ravine]

Bro

[thorny cargo]

but to the law, or the pinkertons, he is

[stable ravine]

Micah didn't touch the Braithwaites

[summer pier]

Yes, the gang did

[stable ravine]

Yes

Except for 2 people

[summer pier]

Making the gang responsible for their deaths

Adding to their growing crime record

[stable ravine]

Keiran and Micah weren't in the mission Blood Feuds Ancient and Modern

And the Braithwaites signed their own death warrant because they took Jack Marston

And gave him to Bronte

[summer pier]

We stole from them

[stable ravine]

Like Hosea said

[summer pier]

The gang got lucky the braithwaites didnt outright kill jack

[stable ravine]

"boys are off limits"

[midnight ocean]

didn't he also like murder a little girl

[stable ravine]

He did

[summer pier]

Also there was the whole Blackwater thing

Micah was the story's good guy, he just played the part to well

[stable ravine]

Sure.

"Good guy"

[summer pier]

Like I said, played the part to well

[stable ravine]

He caused the gang to fall apart

[summer pier]

(The same gang that killed thousands)

[stable ravine]

Of Law, Pinkertons, Cornwall's men, grays and Braithwaites

Have u seen the gang ever kill an actual civilian

[summer pier]

So since they murdered cops, body guards, and family feuders all those deaths are excused

[summer pier]

Blackwater

And Heidi

[stable ravine]

What the fuck is Heidi

[summer pier]

Woman in blackwater

[stable ravine]

I don't remember her

Ever being mentioned

In the story

[summer pier]

John mentioned it

She was on the ferry

And Dutch shot her

[stable ravine]

Oh

I remember now

[thorny cargo]

@summer pier micah is racist, sexist, and got jenny pregnant unwillingly too.

[stable ravine]

Btw he shot her because they were swarmed by law and Pinkertons

And Dutch didn't know where he was shooting

[midnight ocean]

how is he good again

because he opposed the gang?

[summer pier]

And the gang killed thousands

[midnight ocean]

micah kills just for fun lol

[thorny cargo]

are you going to keep using that as an argument or actually give something else?

[midnight ocean]

if micah is a good guy i guess so is colm o driscoll

[stable ravine]

Bro

[thorny cargo]

not to mention the fact the law and pinkertons were corrupt back then too... so even further, he was still a bad guy

[summer pier]

What else do I need to give? Micah did his job as an undercover Pinkerton

Although I wouldn't be shocked if he got betrayed to

[thorny cargo]

so because he did his job and was a good boy to the pinkertons he was a good guy?

[summer pier]

He turned in one of the most infamous gangs

[thorny cargo]

he didnt.. he just ratted some minor info about them

infact

[summer pier]

So he helped turn in one of the most infamous gangs

[thorny cargo]

the law never even served any of them a sentence long-term. only john was in the hands of the law for a while in rdr1

he didnt turn them in

youre not understanding

they were never in the hands of the law long-term

[summer pier]

Micah was a Pinkerton informative

That's a detective agency

[thorny cargo]

i wouldnt call him that. he wasnt an inside guy, just an outlaw who gave info to the pinkertons in return for his freedom. he was just acting selfishly

do you think he was doing it because he wanted the outlaws to be locked up?

he wasnt an official or anything

[summer pier]

Ofc not, but letting one guy out for the rest of the gang is a insane deal

[thorny cargo]

and he died anyways

loser

[summer pier]

Was this directed at me or micah?

[thorny cargo]

micah

to say that him ratting the gang to the pinkertons makes up for everything else he did is an insane opinion, im just pointing that out

micah is a horrible person

[summer pier]

Horrible person, yes, worse than the gang, no

[thorny cargo]

but its like youre comparing one member of the kkk to the entirety of the kkk. not to give an extreme example but it is

OBVIOUSLY if you compare ONE MAN to the entirety of his group, he isnt as bad

like hes not the devil. but hes bad

what youre stating is just the obvious. what im stating is that his hate is absolutely deserved, considering you play the game IN THE PERSPECTIVE of outlaws

[outer vortex]

how fucking rare is the chupacabra in undead nightmare

[thorny cargo]

have you reached undead hunter rank 5

[outer vortex]

yes

its the last thing i need to do

for 100%

[thorny cargo]

havent played undead nightmare in a long time but i remember that its pretty rare.

the wiki has a list of locations

i suggest going there and cycling through those places

[midnight ocean]

you know that dutch was the only one the Pinkertons really wanted right

and in the end, micah tried to escape with him

not to mention his motivations were entirely selfish even if he had turned dutch in

then he goes right back to stealing and murdering

and yeah he is worse than the gang lol. the only one who's maybe as bad as micah is dutch himself

[muted hill]

Yes

[deft atlas]

chat what is the fastest weapon in rdr2

[obsidian thicket]

Hip fire cattleman probably but the maxim machine gun if you use it in missions

[stable ravine]

Semi Automatic Pistol when you spam quick fire

[obsidian thicket]

Low-key forgot about the pistols isn't the m1899 faster though?

[stable ravine]

Idk

I haven't used M1899 since January xd

[deft atlas]

also for quickdraw

[outer vortex]

after too much time i finally found it

[midnight ocean]

double action revolver maybe

if you dont want a pistol

[stable ravine]

For revolvers its 100% Cattlesman and Double Action

For pistols is m1899 and Semi Auto

[midnight ocean]

cattleman firerate not good tho

[stable ravine]

Kinda mid

I only like cattlesman because of the Hero Pearl Grip and the way I customize it

The only time I used cattlesman was in chapter 1

In chapter 2 I got the Schofield revolver

[deft atlas]

bro why is the lemat revolver so mid

i checked the stats

its mid

[midnight ocean]

how is it mid

[stable ravine]

Lemat only sucks because

It has

Slow reload time

[midnight ocean]

lemat/schofield usually considered the best in single player