red-dead-singleplayer

[hidden moss]

Ill just pretend john is arthur

[deep glacier]

The “…” at the end is making me think different

[latent knot]

which honor u had

[dark ferry]

😅

[vestal shard]

-150 honor

[hidden moss]

High. remember no spoilers please 😄

[latent knot]

u had deer

i like more black wolf

because arthur was good man

[hidden moss]

Low honour seems sooo fun but high is just better story i bet

[slim steeple]

Not sure if anyone can help, but I just caught a 3 star deer, so I want to take it to the butcher, and...
The icon shows the butcher is open (it's 4pm) but the butcher is nowhere to be seen, so I can't sell it

[latent knot]

yea but i like more idk is more funny bcs arthur dreamed about black wolf

like black wolf is him

when u will see his grave

u will find that wolf

[midnight ocean]

maybe something scared him off

try riding away from town a bit and go back

[slim steeple]

Maybe
I just got here though lol

[slim steeple]

I'll try that, thanks

bruh now he's back

I didn't even go anywhere

WTF

Where did he come from?!

[latent knot]

just camp and sleep like 6 hours to open

[slim steeple]

Somehow he suddenly appeared from somewhere
No idea where
One minute he's nowhere to be seen, then I turn around the next, and boom... he's back

[latent knot]

u cant sell when he arrived??

where u sell bro

which city

[slim steeple]

No, I've sold it to him now
He spawned after I asked for help

[slim steeple]

Armadillo

Tumbleweed, sorry

Not armadillo

[hidden moss]

Wait does john have a different dead eye sound than arthur

[latent knot]

i knew armadilo dont have butchery 😭

[slim steeple]

I think I've heard about that, not sure if it's true or not

[slim steeple]

I meant to say Tumbleweed

[latent knot]

oh

i saw

[latent knot]

idk death eyes sound like same

to me

are you tryed something?

[copper moat]

armadillo is infected with cholera 😭

[hidden moss]

Farmhand!

[autumn gate]

yo

[latent knot]

yeaah they people is like zombies

like in rdr undeed

nightmare

[copper moat]

yep

but they dont bite

just vomit

[latent knot]

yea they just cough and die

[copper moat]

real

[latent knot]

in rdr was better

armadilo

and mexico

[copper moat]

yeah cuz rdr is after rdr2

so armadillo recovered from it

[latent knot]

yea that little confused when i saw years

[copper moat]

tbf i didnt even know that when i started to play it

[latent knot]

same

[copper moat]

but i was addicted to the lore and i figured out

[latent knot]

i was just like rdr is before than rdr 2

[copper moat]

same lmao

[latent knot]

but rdr 2 is more colored

[lapis panther]

Yes his RDR1 dead eye sound

[latent knot]

johns dead eye?

[lapis panther]

Yes

[copper moat]

kinda makes sense

2017 game against a idk when rdr was released

[latent knot]

rdr is maybe older than me

im 2008

but its peak

rdr is my childhood

[lapis panther]

RDR1 was great but I have not played it since 2015 I think

[latent knot]

bro my second time played is like when i brought in steam and finished story and now i brought rdr 2 on pc

[lapis panther]

I've only played through the story twice I think. Ending annoyed me a lot

[latent knot]

i played only before on ps4

and ps3

in rdr 2 online i was like 70 lvl

but i lost my acc on ps4

[lapis panther]

Played it when it first came out and then 5 years later. I played it on 360, but my 360 conked out during pandemic and didn't need to buy another

I have both ps4 and ps5

[latent knot]

same but i brought second time because is fun

[latent knot]

same but my brother is more play on ps5

but i have pc

im more play on pc now

its different controles but its easy for learn

[pastel linden]

I haven;t finished rdr1, I played it with my cousin as a kid and I've played about half of it since I got it myself a couple years ago

then I got Elden Ring and RDR2 and still haven't gotten back to it

[latent knot]

bro finish rdr 1

[pastel linden]

I basically got to Mexico and quit

[vestal shard]

Talked with Dutch while he was smoking, didn't trigger the pipe request

fucking bullshit

[hidden moss]

Can I still get the black arabian at saint denis as john in epilogue?

from t he encounter

[lapis panther]

You can buy it from the stable in Saint Denis.

[hidden moss]

I’ll need to progress first so I get money

[reef rose]

Gavin where are you

[radiant venture]

U can even get it for free

But those police guys will follow u

[copper moat]

Gavin dosent exist friend

[reef rose]

I don’t believe you

[copper moat]

im the king of the swamp castle i have notes of all people in lemoyne

he does not exist friend

[reef rose]

Do you know where he is?

[deep glacier]

Couldn’t tell ya partner

[copper moat]

possibly in someones belly or in the grave

[midnight ocean]

look within

[lapis panther]

The Murfrees got him haha

[reef rose]

…

[dreamy canyon]

Do gavin even exist

Wondering so i could kill gavin and show him to his friend

[modern bobcat]

You're Gavin, you are

[modern bobcat]

Is there a model in the game files for 1895 arthur?

[hidden moss]

Even if I got before with Arthur?

[radiant venture]

Yeah

Just go the saint Denis stable

U need to enter from side door

Like their will be a cash register etc

Then shoot the bulb or something it will alert police

Stable will be shut down

Go to the horse feed it after feeding it u can see the horse symbol on map

Like it shows that it is ur horse

Escape from there while u r at escaping call the horse(whistle)

It will come to u

[hidden moss]

Isn’t it the same where I enable that encounter?

[radiant venture]

wt encounter?

i haven't played it in a while

[hidden moss]

You go to saint denis, a random encounter happens and the black arabian spawns

[radiant venture]

nah man there is no random encounter

[hidden moss]

For arthur there was

[radiant venture]

yeah i know that

but this is different

tbh u can get white arabian which is so good

[hidden moss]

I prefer black horses imo

just like to match for what im wearing

even if its slightly worse

[radiant venture]

ok i get it

its not randomm

it's a trick or something

read that text u can get the horse for free

i did it so many times

[hidden moss]

Wait and the black horse wuld be IN the stable or?

[radiant venture]

yeah it will be in the stable

[midnight ocean]

black is better than white

[hidden moss]

Is it?

Oh woolie u changed ur pfp!

[midnight ocean]

1 point higher health and stam

yeah lol

[hidden moss]

and nicee

[midnight ocean]

might go back to the regular one but i wanted to take the halloween one off

[hidden moss]

I woke up today thinking id be happy playing rdr2 but then realised yk..

[hidden moss]

ur dog one is the OG

[midnight ocean]

tru

[hidden moss]

Its fun to play as john ngl

All my food is gone tho which idk the best way to get a bunch of food

[hidden moss]

Does it have to be night?

[radiant venture]

No

[hidden moss]

Okay

[midnight ocean]

gators

[hidden moss]

ohh yeah

[hidden moss]

Whenever i try shoot it it wont let me in then

[atomic flume]

Hey guys,

How do I add this Discord to my list? I've had to "Join" every Discord, but when I came to this one, it never asked me to join and I can't seem to add it to my list with the other Discords that I'm with.

Thank you.

[midnight ocean]

if you didn't join you wouldn't be here lol

maybe you just need to scroll down the list

[hidden moss]

iTS not working ugh 😭

[atomic flume]

Nope, I just clicked on this one, went to this specific chat to ask for help and that was that.

It never asked me to join or click any buttons or click on any of the side bits to "Complete" anything.

But it isn't part of my list of Discords, that's my point

Oh, I thought you could sent images on here.. I just screenshotted my screen to show.. but I can't see the "Image" option.

Oh wait, my bad, it is there...

Never mind, but it's showing the "Undead Nightmare" picture.... THAT'S why I didn't see it..

I never played Undead Nightmare, so I didn't realise...

Still though, I don't actually remember "Joining" this Discord...

Ah well.

Never mind.

Thanks anyway!

[hidden moss]

Do i have to go to the trapper to unlock more like bandoliers n stuff or would it auto go to my equipment tihng

[atomic flume]

Think you need to get the pelts required to unlock more bandoliers

I don't use them myself personally, I mean, I equipped them for the ammo feature but take them off afterwards - so I'm not entirely sure...

But yeah, pelts are needed to unlock more, depending on what bandolier/outfit you want.

[latent knot]

yes

[latent knot]

when u finish chapther 6 u get 24k money

[hidden moss]

Thats prolly only if u choose to go back for the money

[latent knot]

in every honor u get 24k

[hidden moss]

I didnt get 24k haha

[latent knot]

when u finish chapter 6

[latent knot]

how

?

[hidden moss]

Idk haha

i have like 100

[latent knot]

im sure ur rdr is glitched

bc i finished both honors and get 24 k on both when i finish

no when u finish full story

u get

24k

mb

[hidden moss]

u scared me sunraku xD

[latent knot]

MB broo

[hidden moss]

thought my rdr broke LOL

[latent knot]

xD

[latent knot]

when u finish rdr i mean not chapter 6

[hidden moss]

so after epilogue 2?

[latent knot]

mb boss

[latent knot]

yes

[hidden moss]

rightt ok

thats alot of money

[latent knot]

yes sir

[hidden moss]

i could buy everything

[latent knot]

u can buy arabian

[hidden moss]

i got arabian already hehe

[latent knot]

from saint?

i like more from blackwater

grey

[hidden moss]

Yea black

stupid bounty hunters almost killed myu horse

[latent knot]

when i played first time a brought black arabian and didnt know if he die when i finish 6 chapther

bcs of arhur

arthur

i was so sad

[dark ledge]

Yall I just did the delights of van horn mission, and was going to do the Leopold Strauss ones next but it’s not on the map

Im still early in the chapter

[outer burrow]

Hello! I just started my save

[brazen wren]

I have 90% on red dead redemption 2 but the collectables and challenges piss me off

[atomic flume]

Why do they piss you off?

[brazen wren]

I was planning to get 100% but the collectables and challenges are too annoying

[atomic flume]

Yeah, you said that, but whyyy, that's what I'm asking xD

[azure sluice]

I’m missing 1 horse breed on my compendium

[hidden moss]

May I stand unshaken

[misty prism]

Especially skeletons of dinosaur

Those were ugh...one of the worst imo

Cards were easy for example

[midnight ocean]

which is it

[midnight ocean]

just get a map or watch a vid

[brazen wren]

I know but I don't wanna do all that

[midnight ocean]

yeah its a lot easier if you do it from the start of the playthrough and spread everything out

i imagine it sucks waiting until the epilogue and having to get everything

[atomic flume]

Sorry for asking again, just curious as I know some challenges are annoying, but why do you find them annoying?

[vital crypt]

ive always preferred playing games this way. but i guess it can be different

[brazen wren]

I don't have the patience, and these stupid gambling things are so hard

[vital crypt]

real

i dont wanna gamble

[hidden moss]

Does arthur have a grave anywhere? Can I find it?

[atomic flume]

Fair enough! I just used YouTube to help me get through them pretty easily, like little hacks or whatever.. but the gambling ones... yeah, not so fun.

[vital crypt]

yes

look up the location

[atomic flume]

What paranoxon said.

[vital crypt]

sometimes googling to find a pic is better than having other people google the pic for you

[midnight ocean]

doing all the collectibles all at once?

[atomic flume]

For sure, or asking Google in general, it's going to pop up straight away xD

[vital crypt]

yes honestly. i play completely unbothered until the end

[midnight ocean]

there are a few graves and you're supposed to save his for last iirc

[vital crypt]

real. its not my inconvenience but i dont understand why some people would rather not google

[hidden moss]

Who else can i see?

[vital crypt]

sean, kieran, the two from chapter one

[midnight ocean]

i just feel like theres generally gonna be burn out that occurs

[vital crypt]

uhh

lenny*

[midnight ocean]

especially in this game with the bones, dreamcatchers and orchids

[vital crypt]

grimshaw, hosea (bot)

[midnight ocean]

jenny, davey, sean, hosea, lenny, grimshaw, eagle flies

[vital crypt]

not for me. i played many games this way

[atomic flume]

It's like those that comment on Facebook posts asking a question with the likely hood that no one will answer it... when you could Google and instantly get a response. xD

[midnight ocean]

probably forgetting someone

[vital crypt]

yeah i have dementia

[vital crypt]

kieran

[midnight ocean]

yes

[vital crypt]

omg you get me.

[midnight ocean]

lol

[vital crypt]

nk

didcord glitched

[hidden moss]

Ill prolly do that once i finish the epilogue 2

[vital crypt]

it showed me the right message first...?

[vital crypt]

meant to respond to you

[midnight ocean]

it was the last thing i did for 100%

nice lil double achievement pop

[hidden moss]

How do you even 100% what do u gotta do

[atomic flume]

Sorry, waht do you mean?

[vital crypt]

[vital crypt]

i meant to respond to you but accidentally responded to someone else

[atomic flume]

You can Google the list of things to do to get 100%

[vital crypt]

i said "omg you get me"

[midnight ocean]

go to the progress screen in the menu and go to total completion

[atomic flume]

Ooooh, that was to me xD

[atomic flume]

Or do that

[hidden moss]

All of that!?

[midnight ocean]

lmao i thought because i had said i was forgetting and you had just said you have dementia

[vital crypt]

yes..?

[vital crypt]

LMAO

that too

[hidden moss]

Wowzers

[midnight ocean]

yeah its quite a grind

[hidden moss]

Im at like 80%

[midnight ocean]

most of the actual percentage is story missions

[hidden moss]

i thought so

[midnight ocean]

and then the rest is all the side stuff

like 10-15% or so

[hidden moss]

I need to find 2 more gang hideouts aswell?

however i do that

[vital crypt]

oh my fucking god

[hidden moss]

im banning that bog ong

bot

[vital crypt]

ive 100%ed a few very annoying games

and i am convinced rdr2 is going to be easier

[atomic flume]

Yeaaah, when you send too many at once, it stops you

Also, someone's message just got deleted, saying paranoxon was sending too many, then the message went away

[vital crypt]

i know that

thats why im mad

[dreamy canyon]

Ive only 100% spider man 2

[midnight ocean]

explore new austin

[vital crypt]

just google it bro

honest

[midnight ocean]

del lobos alone have like five hideouts

[vital crypt]

just check on a map if you have them all

[atomic flume]

Sorry, I was rerplying to another xD

[vital crypt]

accept friend request? if i ask nicely

[midnight ocean]

i wanna say i did the first one

i remember doing all the taskmaster stuff at least

[hidden moss]

Actually, it doesnt seem too hard to do, itll just take a while

[dreamy canyon]

I yet to finish that one

[midnight ocean]

exactly

[atomic flume]

Google is your best friend UNLESS you're really stuck and you ask here, but for a 6 year old game, a MAJORITY of your questions CAN be answered with a simple Google.

I used Google, Reddit and YouTube to get 100%

[vital crypt]

absolutely

[hidden moss]

Yeah sorry 😭

[vital crypt]

maps are the thing you nerd

need

not people to be honest

[atomic flume]

No need to be sorry, this Discord is here for a reason xD

[midnight ocean]

only thing thats actually difficult is probably gold medals and some of the challenges, but you dont need any gold medals for 100% anyway

[vital crypt]

two screens. one map one game. ipad or just a second screen does the job

[dreamy canyon]

[vital crypt]

thats how i do it, easiest way

[hidden moss]

After i beat Epilogue 2, ill start too 100%. dont i get a little role here as well!?

[midnight ocean]

yeah they have roles for that one plus gold rush, zoologist, its art, and uh bountiful i think

that last one is the online one

[atomic flume]

But yeah, most of what people ask can be found by Google.

I actually only came here because it had been a long time since I played Chapter 2 and was wondering why I hadn't taken the kid fishing yet... Google and ChatGPT were not giving me proper answers and I couldn't figure out what missions I had left to do as I still had Micah and Arthur's ex's first letter to read, which would provoke the Downes mission.

Straight away, people said it was later on in the Chapter 2 where you get the rod and Legendary Map.

[hidden moss]

Ooh i see. shit didnt u say there was somethingg i had to do to get 100% or is that only for like platinum

or is that the same xD

[dreamy canyon]

I dont like dutch keeps yapping bout some plan and tahiti but i donate 300 dollars and yet he still says “grrr we need more money oh and don’t forget my pipe”

[midnight ocean]

no thats just platinum

100% is just story stuff

[vital crypt]

real like shit man we really aint broke

[atomic flume]

Yes, there is one item you cannot get unless it's online, but it doesn't hinder the 100%.

[cursive mulch]

Hey guys

I have almost 500 hours on this game and I regret rushing through the story and not doing side missions , only had 1 play through so far (yes I have over 400 hours as John) and I’m wondering if there’s a good list of things that are missable for my second play through

[hidden moss]

But ill get best in the west for 100% story?

[midnight ocean]

tbf they do need quite a bit for the tahiti plan

[dreamy canyon]

[atomic flume]

Yeah, that's annoying xDD

[hidden moss]

or is it east

idk xD

[azure sluice]

No idea I can’t figure it out

[midnight ocean]

yeah you just need to be able to prove it

[hidden moss]

With like a screenshot?

[midnight ocean]

what are the breeds on either side

[midnight ocean]

yeah thats how i did it

but i used the xbox app so idk how youd do so on pc

[hidden moss]

Probably showing steam or like rockstar app

[midnight ocean]

guess just ss your steam profile with the achievement visible

[vital crypt]

theres a whole ass tutorial in that channel

[dreamy canyon]

Why does the online trophys have no separate list on PlayStation

😔

[midnight ocean]

i feel your pain

i still need like every online achievement

[dreamy canyon]

I love my horsey and my hosey love me

[hidden moss]

Also

it says i havent been to a show before? I thought the theater was a show?

[midnight ocean]

theres a live show and a picture show i think

[hidden moss]

ohhh

[atomic flume]

Ooooh... doesn't this Discord accept links?

I just tried twice to post a YouTube channel link.

[midnight ocean]

i wanna say you do one with mary and one with abigail

[trail marsh]

i just completed it again for the 10th time

[hidden moss]

I remember going to theater with mary

[azure sluice]

Thoroughbred on the left

[midnight ocean]

turkoman?

[atomic flume]

This dude - GTA Series Videos - on YouTube... he (could be a she, no idea), his videos are VERY helpful - helped me a LOT.

[hidden moss]

Im okay with doing it without vids n stuff, i prefer just asking google and reading tbf!

[midnight ocean]

you can buy a gold turkoman in saint denis, a dark bay in blackwater, or a silver one in tumbleweed. there are no wild ones

[hidden moss]

as long as they provide images

[atomic flume]

I understand, but sometimes a visual and direct/short video is helpful - to me anyway.

I'm a visual learner, so I guess the videos help me more.

[azure sluice]

Yea could be

[midnight ocean]

yeah i also prefer text guides but used videos for the most part on this

[hidden moss]

fairr

[azure sluice]

the game isn’t loading bruh

I failed a mission and restarted the checkpoint it’s been loading for like 5 minutes now

[midnight ocean]

most likely since buying one is the only way to even see one

although i think hosea has a silver turkoman

[atomic flume]

That's strange, may need to restart unfortunately.

[midnight ocean]

idk if studying it puts it in the compendium

[azure sluice]

I finished the game can’t do that

[midnight ocean]

yeah so just go buy one

[azure sluice]

💔

[empty ingot]

if i sell perfect pelts at pearson, can i use them for crafting at other shops? Or do i gotta deliver the pelts directly to the shops i wanna craft smth at

[hidden moss]

do i level up stamina by literally just running xD?

[midnight ocean]

the latter

[midnight ocean]

yes

[hidden moss]

i think theres one where i have to lvl up all my like core things to lvl 10

[midnight ocean]

but you cant go past level 8 without doing the challenges and buying the gear from the trapper

[atomic flume]

How long have you played the game for? Is this your first playthrough?

[hidden moss]

137 hours lol. Im on epilogue 1 and yes first

[atomic flume]

Daaang, to play the game for the first time again, holy crap.

I haven't actually completed the game fully since my 2nd playthrough... I just find Chapter 6 waaay too depressing... 😅

[hidden moss]

Challenges and what gear

[midnight ocean]

there is a set of gear that goes with each set of challenges which you can buy at the trapper

[hidden moss]

Does it still cost money

[midnight ocean]

yes

that hardly matters tho

[hidden moss]

ohh yeah ok

and what challenges? How do i access these?

[atomic flume]

Yeah. you're in the Epilogue.. you got the money for it xD

The challanges you've probably been doing throughout the game, they're listed in the Menu

[hidden moss]

Oh god theres alot

[midnight ocean]

9 sets of 10

[atomic flume]

Eeyyupp xD

[hidden moss]

Do i have to discover every single animal, equipment, gun to 100%?

[atomic flume]

No, thankfully

If you Google it, you can literally get a list of the things you need to do to get 100%

[midnight ocean]

bro doesnt know about gambler 8

[atomic flume]

Just had to Google to remind myself... oh daaang xD

Ahh, good luck with that Fake Morgan! 😅

[hidden moss]

Goodnesss

How can i tell if ive done all Strang missions?

[atomic flume]

Strang?

[outer burrow]

How many hour is the game?

[hidden moss]

stranger

[atomic flume]

Stranger? Do you mean?

[hidden moss]

yh

[atomic flume]

You know what, I don't even know if I've personally done all of them, so I couldn't tell you, sorry

I just know when you Google stranger/side missions, they are separate for every chapter.. if you enter into the next chapter, the stranger/side mission will disappear... so, I know that for sure

As in, the stranger mission from the previous chapter will no longer be there..

You gotta make sure you do each stranger mission IN the chapter you're in

[empty ingot]

when crafting amuletts, can i equip them somehow or do they all just give me their bonus passively?

[atomic flume]

Pretty sure passively

[vital crypt]

passively

you can equip some but its purely cosmetic

[empty ingot]

❤️ thanks

[hidden moss]

Do blackjacks usually happen more at night

the game

[atomic flume]

No, it doesn't matter what time of day

[hidden moss]

Weird i cant see the icon

and i asked google and it says im in right spot

[atomic flume]

Oh, I'm sorry, I must have gotten that wrong then...

I guess because in my memory, I've done it any time of day

Sometimes depending on what's recently happened, like a brawl or something, it can temporarily remove it and you need to go to another one

I think

[misty prism]

I am very close to 900 hrs

2x times story mode

And it was so worth it

[midnight ocean]

where are you

dont trust google ai btw

itll start telling you about the part of the game where arthur goes to mexico to capture jack marston

[hidden moss]

Blackwater, went to saint denis butt still couldnt find

[shrewd kayak]

I had it tell me Hiccup from HTTYD had a sister once 💔

[lyric pike]

if you put -ai at the end of your search it actually doesnt use the AI

[midnight ocean]

blackwater has it upstairs in the saloon

saint denis doesnt have blackjack i dont think

[lyric pike]

How do I find a Panther im already in the general area but I cant find one

[midnight ocean]

rhodes does

[midnight ocean]

try making camp and sleeping a day

[misty prism]

Man this challenge with bears is tough af

Those respawns are slow or doesn't exist lol

[midnight ocean]

which one is that

[lyric pike]

how do I get a bounty removed without paying at the post office i think panthers arent spawning cause bounty hunters keep on spawning

[hidden moss]

My rdr2 performance goes down after a few weeks everytime I have to reinstall it to fix it

[midnight ocean]

thats the only way

well you could get captured i think but you still lose money

unless someone breaks you out

[lyric pike]

well thats annoying id rather not pay 125$ because of how crowded saint denis is

[midnight ocean]

just go slowly lol

[lyric pike]

maybe im just looking in the wrong spot is south of bolger glade/west of shady bell a good spot for hunting panthers

[vital crypt]

"good to see manners aint dead yet" i dont think thats the ideal way to greet someone pissing on the sidewalk

[midnight ocean]

should be right by old harry fen or whatever its called

can never remember the name

[magic hill]

They should add 60 fps tbh

[hidden moss]

I just gott a new monitor, 75 HZ instead of 60. What does that mean?

[magic hill]

75 hz is the refresh rate

It means that your monitor can display 75 fps

But if the game isnt made for 75 fps it wont run in 75 you have to mod it

[lyric pike]

okay ill try there

[magic hill]

Theres a fort not fort wallace but its close to van horn when i go there it says theres s weapon but i cant find it

[latent knot]

i have monitor 75 hz and i have 144 fps

in rdr 2

[vital crypt]

i just saw a grizzly, shot it, then a wolf attacked me then an elk showed up and now i am being shot at

all in not even a minute

im not in good grizzly nor wolf territory help

anyways i got my bear pelt...? so thats fine

[lyric pike]

im about to loose my mind

[vital crypt]

another perfect elk just a few metres away

[lyric pike]

These damn bounty hunters will not stop spawning

[hidden moss]

Oooh nice. And it’s bigger my monitor

[midnight ocean]

its in da basement

oh wait

yeah

there should be a hat too

[hidden moss]

You rat

[late ibex]

Hi guys I am Tyler durden

[midnight ocean]

someone name this guy fake tyler durden

[hidden moss]

Idk why people use fast travel. It feels great to ride around

[lyric pike]

ive been trying to find a panther for so long, arthurs beginning to look like bigfoot when he's crouched down in these forests

[lyric pike]

short form videos have ruined peoples patience and attention span

[midnight ocean]

in case you wanna go from tumbleweed to annesburg

[vital crypt]

why does charles have the most glorious hair ever

im jealous

[vital crypt]

bro i feel you cause same

i once got eaten by one early game thats about it

[lyric pike]

I just got killed by one

that was the first panther i have seen

[vital crypt]

i am so sorry

[midnight ocean]

stay on your horse and keep your rifle ready

[lyric pike]

I was using deer as bait and i was moving the deer A little more into the forest I saw a red blip on the map dropped the deer, turned around saw nothing red blip also disappeared, I turn back around and just get jumpscared

[midnight ocean]

using a deer as bait?

[vital crypt]

i prefer doing it on ground

[lyric pike]

yeah it apparently works a little too well

[midnight ocean]

why?

[vital crypt]

if your horse throws you out you are GONE

and if theyre too spooked they wont go anywhere

[lyric pike]

yeah and I have a white arabian I will 100% get bucked off

[vital crypt]

last time i encountered a cougar my horse stopped and refused to do anything, cost me my life and i had to relog

[midnight ocean]

nah if you keep the rifle equipped and deadeye ready you're fine if you get thrown

[vital crypt]

LMAO

my tb is fine but its still annoying

[midnight ocean]

unless the thing is right on top of you already

[vital crypt]

thats usually what happens with the kitties

[lyric pike]

I DID IT

Finally

that took so long

[midnight ocean]

you should see and hear them long before theyre close enough to spook your horse unless you're not expecting them

[lyric pike]

unfortunalatly I need 2 perfect panther pelts so back into the forest I go😭

[midnight ocean]

itll take another day for another to spawn jsyk

[dark ferry]

which spot are you hunting from

or location

[vital crypt]

i just hear one loud hiss and im dead

ive got headphones and all

i like treating my arthur to the big saloon in saint denis for a bath a good night of sleep and food

some peace

[lyric pike]

south of old harry fen

[dark ferry]

i see

[midnight ocean]

well thats why you should stay on the horse too lol its like a buffer from dying

because first the horse has to throw you

[vital crypt]

i dont know what to tell you. when i go off my horse nothing spawns. when i stay on my horse a whole zoo spawns, my horse freaks out and launches me into my grave

[lyric pike]

im just gonna walk through the forest with another deer carus until one charges me, worked last time even though I did meet me end before I could kill the panther

[vital crypt]

sounds smart

[lyric pike]

arthur looks so tired, and hes so dirty that npc's ridign on the trail will pull out their guns out of fear

[dense gate]

how many horses can i bring to camp, i’ve stolen 9 but they’ve disappeared…

[viral flax]

I only know you can have 1 temporary horse but you can ofc take the other horses too a stable and keep them there

[midnight ocean]

you dont need to do this lmao

[hidden moss]

@viral flax yeahh you were right btw. It’s pretty

[viral flax]

West Elizabeth is so pretty

Well, north side of the river that is

The south side with Blackwater isn't as good but it's still nice

[vital crypt]

how far can i get into blackwater while wanted dead or alive im too lazy to test it rn

[outer burrow]

Should I play the first game first or can I skip it

[vital crypt]

the first game plays after the second one

[outer burrow]

Oh good!

[vital crypt]

yes

1899 vs 1911

so it really does not matter

[outer burrow]

God this game is pretty

[vital crypt]

you can play whichever you prefer first

the first one has john as mc

[outer burrow]

I really thought my cpu and gpu wouldn’t be able to handle the game

[vital crypt]

well good thing it does handle it

mine could do maxed everything but to keep it a bit quieter i do mid

i dont need to deepfry my laptop im not that desperate

[outer burrow]

Nah I got a gaming pc.. also i had it on my ps4 before that

[latent knot]

same

[vital crypt]

yeah i get it

my laptop is fine im joking around

it can handle it but yes obviously it makes noise

you cant hear it with headphones on

[outer burrow]

Oh.. i wanna see the difference between pc and Xbox and ps4 i am interested don’t know how

[viral flax]

There is basically a secret sniper that if you stay for too long you just die

Because you aren't meant to explore that bit of the map as Arthur

[vital crypt]

ill see for myself

[vital crypt]

right.. can he die already

[hidden moss]

Does anybody else not like Bill at all?

[viral flax]

Bill is ok. He is a bit of an idiot but he is loyal and tries his best for the people he cares for.

[hidden moss]

I mean, he was alright earlier on, but later I didn't like him for some reason.

Does handing in bounties give me honour?

[viral flax]

I actually don't know, never noticed it

[hidden moss]

Wait, I forgot what people said, but in epilogue, honour doesn't matter?

[viral flax]

No it doesn't really. But you will lose perks like cheaper items in stores and the ability to buy certain outfits if you lower it.

[hidden moss]

Mine is high anyway.

[viral flax]

Like in Rhodes, there is a outfit called "the gamblers outfit" and you need high honour for it.

[hidden moss]

Oooh, I see. Honestly, I just use custom outfits. I don't bother with the presets.

[hidden moss]

Have you 100% the game yet?

[viral flax]

The story yea but not all the challenges and stuff

[turbid gate]

are there other tips for gambler 8? ik one what is when i got too much cards i hold esc and sit again

[hidden moss]

So you haven't got best in the west yet?

[midnight ocean]

no he hasnt lol

[hidden moss]

Woolie, how long did it take you XD?

[turbid gate]

how the hell u survived gambler challenges

[midnight ocean]

those are like the easiest ones

are you stuck on a particular one

[turbid gate]

not 8th one 😭

im still stuck on that one

[midnight ocean]

a few months lol

but i play other games and have a job and stuff

[hidden moss]

That is fair lol.

[midnight ocean]

i also went for all gold medals and full compendium

[hidden moss]

Dayum.

[turbid gate]

im going broke by it bro

[midnight ocean]

did you mean bandit or gambler

[turbid gate]

gambler

bro

my bad

[midnight ocean]

yeah that one is annoying, i sat down at the table and watched youtube

it took like 90 mins

[turbid gate]

im now listening to some songs and keep doing that

[midnight ocean]

youll get it

[hidden moss]

Why is blackjack actually fun!?

[midnight ocean]

i got kinda lucky tbh pretty sure i got two wins in a row

[turbid gate]

i got one in 3 hrs

[midnight ocean]

yeah blackjack is fun especially if you know a system for it

[turbid gate]

i almost did this 😭 but lost by one

[midnight ocean]

just keep trying and dont lose hope

remember to split whenever you can

[hidden moss]

Also, I'm trying to go to a bounty but it keeps having a locked symbol on it.

[turbid gate]

sanity too

[turbid gate]

wdym split

i need at least 5 cards right?

[midnight ocean]

when you split its like having two hands at once

and it lowers the total

[winged charm]

Which mods can I use to spawn a horse without breaking the game?

[azure sluice]

You can use cheats but that disables saving if I’m not mistaken

[winged charm]

My horse always de-spawned and was replaced with a vanilla Tennessee walker.

[winged charm]

Yep, that's why I would like to use Mods

that wouldn't disable saving right?

[azure sluice]

There’s a mod called Rampage I think

Idk I’m on Xbox lol

[winged charm]

oh ok, Thanks!

I also played on Xbox, before too!

Did you get that horse bug where your horse de-spawns and is replaced with a Tennessee Walker?

All the bonding is reset to zero as well which is really annoying

[azure sluice]

Not really no

I’ve had my horse get stuck underground near Lake Isabella once though

After setting up a camp

[midnight ocean]

just restart the game

[azure sluice]

But idk usually when your horse dies its replaced with a Tennessee walker

[midnight ocean]

its a bug lol

[winged charm]

oh ok, so just reload a save?

Darn, I've already saved for quite a while with the "new" horse, and so I think I've lost the previous horse for good.

I remember on the Xbox, though that reloading a save didn't work.

[midnight ocean]

did i say reload a save or restart the game

[winged charm]

oh ok

well that didn't work

Is there a trainer or something that can spawn horses directly into the game without breaking anything?

[winged charm]

nvm, I found it. Rampage Trainer

This wouldn't break the game or anything right?

[midnight ocean]

did you actually do it because it should take longer than like ten seconds i think lol

[azure sluice]

it’s that one iirc I’ve seen it in some videos

[winged charm]

As if anything exceeds the game memory then the game breaks completely and becomes empty.,

[midnight ocean]

i had my horse transform into a tenny walker multiple times but changed back after a restart each time

[winged charm]

Is restarting the game shutting it off and then relaunching it?

[midnight ocean]

yes

[hidden moss]

I feel so bad for acidentally killing a bounty 😭

[midnight ocean]

thats a load save lol

[winged charm]

yes that didn't work.

[midnight ocean]

weird

[hidden moss]

It was wanted dead or alive anyway

[midnight ocean]

true

[winged charm]

I always got a Tennessee walker every time I played again.

[midnight ocean]

maybe your horse died and you didnt notice

[winged charm]

It was randomly replaced during the mission where you save Sean.

A Tennessee walker was spawned instead of the American Standardbred

[azure sluice]

Weird

[winged charm]

oh well, I'll try out some mods and hope it doesn't break the game.

[winged charm]

On Xbox it was during the Fence mission with Hosea.

the American horse disappeared and was replaced by a Tennessee.

[turbid gate]

update: i won

can i send links here to site?

[midnight ocean]

no

gz tho

[turbid gate]

okay

so i got a mod

that claims it will finish my gambler 8, 9 and 10

if it does

it counts to 100%?

[midnight ocean]

i hope not lol

[turbid gate]

i hope yes

after 100% imma mod the game

[copper moat]

ngl modding the game is boring and it takes time

what i mean by boring is like, it dosent give that thought of i gotta watch out where i spend my money

[turbid gate]

yeah but mk2 in saint denis is just fire

[copper moat]

ok i lost

fuck

[midnight ocean]

well damn wild bill even a stopped clocks gotta be right sometime

common logic says you're gonna win one sooner or later

[tawny iron]

Does anyone know which town i can buy a mustang at?

[low zealot]

No clue, but you sure could find a wild one, or look out for camps to steal one from a camp

[tawny iron]

I found the most beautiful silver mustang out near tumbleweed but no that damn spanish gang pulled up 20 deep

[copper moat]

possibly valentine or saint denis

[low zealot]

Oof

[turbid gate]

update²: i did it

[hidden moss]

Does uncle actually have lumbago?

[azure sluice]

Probably not lol

It’s just an excuse to avoid work prolly

[rocky bone]

No he doesn't

Unc does a lot of work in camp though, like sleeping and "thinking"

[azure sluice]

he gets up way too fast when John kicks him soooo

[midnight ocean]

i dont believe you

[midnight ocean]

get the tiger striped mustang

or maybe that was the one you found

[copper moat]

ty for the kind words mr

[hidden moss]

Also, I've just seen charles again. Bet on charles for the fight or bet against whats the difference

[turbid gate]

i destroyed whole rhodes

died in action

because whole rhodes teamed up on me

now gambler 9...

[midnight ocean]

think you're meant to bet on him there

[hidden moss]

Does bet against mean like bet n the other dude

[midnight ocean]

yeah

[hidden moss]

ohh right okay yeah im betting on him

on charles

[deep glacier]

Betting against Charles is an actual crime

[hidden moss]

Fr. idk why its an option tbh xD

[deep glacier]

For those extra low honor players like ahem @oblique quiver

[oblique quiver]

Huh

[dark ledge]

Honestly low honour just feels against Arthur’s character

[oblique quiver]

For what was I summoned

Oh nvm

No I bet on charles

When that happened

[deep glacier]

I’d hope so

[oblique quiver]

Sure im extra low honor but I still like the high honor characters

I hate post ch4 Dutch and I’ve always hated Micah

[dark ledge]

Low honour is basically against Arthur’s character lmfao

Sure it may be fun, but it doesn’t feel right at all

Makes sense

Low honor matches? lol no

[oblique quiver]

It does match, but imo, the best way to play Arthur and keep it the most accurate is do low honor until he gets diagnosed with TB, which gives him a new perspective on life and leads him to high honor

[dark ledge]

That’s pretty much the way to do it

Although even before

I’d consider him an honourable asshole

Still wouldn’t consider him “low honour” in chapter 3-5

Chapter 2 and 1 I was a bit of an asshole lmfao

But even then it still feels against Arthur’s character

I just did it for the arc

[deep glacier]

Starting with low honor then ending with high honor makes the most sense

Considering it’s his redemption arc

[dark ledge]

For the epic arc yeah

It’s called “ red dead redemption” but even so

I still don’t think he should be completely “low honour” at the beginning

[deep glacier]

He’s a mix of both in the beginning I’d say. He’s an outlaw but still has morals

Much like Hosea

[dark ledge]

Yeah

By the end he’s objectively a pretty good person

[deep glacier]

Without question ya

[dark ledge]

Unless you do low honor

But that makes no sense

And is against his arc

[midnight ocean]

idk id say he still starts the story off as a pretty decent guy aside from the way he acts during the debt collecting missions

he's pretty upset about the heidi mccourt thing despite not even witnessing it himself

[lapis panther]

Good when he needs to be and bad when he needs to be. That's how I play him

[midnight ocean]

he also seemed to prefer the gang back in the robin hood days and is already sort of disillusioned by the fact that theyve just become straight up robbers

its his loyalty to dutch that keeps him from questioning things too much

[dark ledge]

Yeah exactly

[dark ledge]

That too

It just feels wrong to play him low honor

[midnight ocean]

yeah the story would need to be a lot more open ended for it to work

[deep glacier]

That’s what I mean. From the start he’s an outlaw but also has morals

[tidal slate]

Badoom tzzz 🥁

[lapis panther]

I remember my second playthrough I tried low honour and it didn't seem the same character.

[dark ledge]

Yeah exactly

[lapis panther]

He also gets his good side/bad side from his parents. Listening to dialogue, Arthur's mother was a good person and his father was a bad outlaw

[lapis panther]

He probably doesn't even know what it is.

[lapis panther]

He did, hence why he hates Strauss' loan sharking

[vestal shard]

Every time I talk with Dutch while he's smoking he won't ask me for a pipe, I finally got Sean's fire bottle's chair and table to spawn but he just won't fucking sit and make fire bottles

I think this game just hates me

[dark ledge]

Exactly

If Arthur was low honour why would he kick him out?

The entire story is basically built around you becoming a good person

[lapis panther]

High or low honour Arthur doesn't like Strauss. Can see that in his journal

[dark ledge]

Yeah, doesn’t make sense tho

Low honour Arthur can get close to Micah in terms of evil

[lapis panther]

Low honour Arthur doesn't exist haha. It's not canon IMO 😉

[dark ledge]

Idk about canon

Rockstar never really mentions it

But yeah

Pretty much good honor is the canon way

Since the story is built around it

Like kicking Strauss out, helping the natives, paying money to the debtors

[lapis panther]

Look at the last debtor he sees

A woman and her child

[dark ledge]

Exactly

And he apologizes and pays her money

[lapis panther]

I think he got Eliza and Isaac flashbacks when doing that

[dark ledge]

It’s possible

I think he’s guilt ridden the entire story tho

[lapis panther]

Yes

[dark ledge]

It just really kicks in in chapter 6

[oblique quiver]

I honestly kinda wish they kept the original backstory for Arthur

[dark ledge]

What was it

[oblique quiver]

Where his wife and infant son died on Hagen

Froze to death

that was their original plot and he was supposed to be a lot darker

And they had some pretty gruesome voice lines

they removed it cos they thought it was too dark

[dark ledge]

Hm

Idk

[lapis panther]

Yes I read that

I am glad they took that out

[dark ledge]

Doesn’t seem very different

Yeah same

[lapis panther]

Too dark

[oblique quiver]

I ain’t

[dark ledge]

But idk how that’s darker then the current one lol

[oblique quiver]

I would’ve preferred him to be a lot angrier

[oblique quiver]

Cos it was a lot more recent

[dark ledge]

His family gets slaughtered by bandits

[lapis panther]

Eliza's model can be seen in game

[oblique quiver]

The ingame story happened like years and years ago

[lapis panther]

Francis Sinclair's mother

[oblique quiver]

so he had moved on more

[dark ledge]

But you can tell he’s guilt ridden by it

[oblique quiver]

Yeah ofc he is

[dark ledge]

He’s never moved on

He just never talks about it

[oblique quiver]

You know what I mean bruh

more time to heal from it

[sick sphinx]

Unrelated

[dark ledge]

That’s true

[sick sphinx]

But does anybody want to see an amazing clip I made?

[oblique quiver]

Yes

[sick sphinx]

From a Jim miltion rides again run I did

[dark ledge]

Jk

[sick sphinx]

😭

[dark ledge]

I’m becoming a changed man

Back to the main topic

You can tell a lot from the dialogue in the rains fall mission

Where you speak to him on the mountain

[sick sphinx]

Sent it to you

[oblique quiver]

In the barn where he questions the odriscoll at Adler ranch his original line was “Tell me exactly where, or I will smash your head CLEAN open.” n then after the odriscoll is like pleading with him and shit, Arthur does this low chuckle and it’s lowk scary as shit

[dark ledge]

I heard the full dialogue, although for some reason a lot of people don’t hear it fully?

[oblique quiver]

Yh I did that

[sick sphinx]

Yeah no he interrupted me

[oblique quiver]

Sadly removed

[sick sphinx]

Rain falls

Is like stfu

[lapis panther]

Beta version of Arthur was more darker and evil

[sick sphinx]

I need to get some herbs

[sick sphinx]

fr

They should’ve made Arthur more evil

[oblique quiver]

Exactly

That would’ve been so much cooler imo

[lapis panther]

Plus he was bigger and as tall as Tommy in Valentine

[dark ledge]

“My family was slaughtered by bandits, shot dea- HOld oN HeRE I GOtta GO PiCk SoMe GinSeng”

[sick sphinx]

As much as I love arrhur

Orthor

[dark ledge]

I prefer the one we have

[sick sphinx]

I think they should’ve made him less likable

[dark ledge]

But yeah

[lapis panther]

Same

[oblique quiver]

Yer a real fokin funi shit ahteh mohgan

[sick sphinx]

Arthur always seemed to me to not be a bad guy even before

He got tb

[dark ledge]

Jk

He’s speaking facts lmao

[sick sphinx]

Like sure he made bad choices but like

[dark ledge]

Even before Arthur had honor

He might’ve been a worse person

[oblique quiver]

Responded to wrong message

[dark ledge]

But he still wasn’t absolutely pure evil

Oh

[lapis panther]

20 years of killing and robbing? There's a bad guy there haha

[oblique quiver]

I was responding to you saying he’d like Micah as a protag

[sick sphinx]

Yeah exactly what I’m trying to say is that

[dark ledge]

Honestly I’m gonna be honest I played Arthur like a bit of an asshole in the beginning lol

[sick sphinx]

Before he got his redemption he was neither good or bad

[lapis panther]

He was both

[sick sphinx]

He did a lot of good things but also a lot of bad things

[lapis panther]

A bad guy can do good things

[dark ledge]

He was also the ugly

[oblique quiver]

it would’ve been so sick for his backstory to be Eliza and Isaac to have died on Mt Hagen right before the game started and for Arthur as a result to be a lot darker and evil throughout the game

[brisk steppe]

Nadie habla español aquí?

[sick sphinx]

yeah

Idk why they cut that

[sick sphinx]

Okay okay

[oblique quiver]

They called it too dark

[sick sphinx]

Yeah

[dark ledge]

Jk

[sick sphinx]

Yeah I agree then

[dark ledge]

Wouldn’t make sense lol

[lapis panther]

Too dark

[sick sphinx]

That’s kinda silly

[lapis panther]

Look at the sitation the gang were in

[sick sphinx]

The whole game is you robbing and beating up people

Into nearing

[brisk steppe]

Hola hola

[oblique quiver]

No hablo español, inglés?

[sick sphinx]

Chapter 5-6

[lapis panther]

You wanna add an infant's death to that?

[sick sphinx]

Or mid to late chapter four

[dark ledge]

Also

They weren’t part of the gang

Why would they freeze to death right before the game started?

[oblique quiver]

that don’t matter much to me, what matters is how it would’ve made sense for him to be a lot darker as a result of that happening

[dark ledge]

Makes no sense

[lapis panther]

They were a part of the gang. Eliza was meant to be a gang member

[dark ledge]

Bro is Micah Fr fr

[sick sphinx]

Not to mention they cut a lot of his combat dialogue

[dark ledge]

Oh really?

[sick sphinx]

In rdr2

He has none at all

[oblique quiver]

Bc the original idea was to have them be with the gang, and on their trek on mt Hagen they froze to death

[sick sphinx]

I’m pretty sure

[dark ledge]

Okay but now this changed the entire story

[lapis panther]

Yes you can see her in game model still

[dark ledge]

Feel like Arthur would save her lmfao

[lapis panther]

Francis Sinclair's mother

[oblique quiver]

It ain’t really somethin you can prevent just by saving

If someone freezes to death that’s it

[dark ledge]

Give her some warm clothing

[oblique quiver]

it’s not somethin u can heal lol

[sick sphinx]

wait guys

Also

[oblique quiver]

I’m sure they had warm clothing

[dark ledge]

There’s a reason why they cut it lmfao

[sick sphinx]

Is it just me

or

[dark ledge]

Makes no sense

[oblique quiver]

I ain’t a rat

[dark ledge]

Not just because it’s “too dark”

[oblique quiver]

I’m low honor but not that low

[sick sphinx]

The opening credits should’ve opened in rdr2

[oblique quiver]

That is literally their reasoning

[lapis panther]

Save who?

[dark ledge]

“iM A SuRvivOr”

[sick sphinx]

When they go to the o Driscoll cabin

[dark ledge]

Eliza

[sick sphinx]

And the gunfight begins

I think that would’ve been cool

[oblique quiver]

I’m a survivor, black lung!

[oblique quiver]

I don’t mean this in an edgelord way, im just low honor main

[lapis panther]

The baby was meant to die at the start and Eliza lives. But they cut that out and made it a back story

[oblique quiver]

Oh Eliza was supposed to live?

I thought they both were to die

[sick sphinx]

Actually you know what though

[lapis panther]

Yes she was a gang member

[sick sphinx]

It makes sense though

[lapis panther]

There is cut dialogue

John was suppose to meet her in epilogue

[sick sphinx]

Arthur has done bad things in the gang for years

[oblique quiver]

Yuh ik

[sick sphinx]

It doesn’t make sense for him to be bad

When Eliza dies

[oblique quiver]

The cut lines for Arthur are so badass

[sick sphinx]

like look at the black water massacre

Dutch raised him into being a horrible person

Agent Milton himself says it

[oblique quiver]

Especially everyone’s favorite
“You’re a dead man! I’m sendin’ you straight to hell! Run now while you got the chance!”

[dark ledge]

Bit off topic but

[lapis panther]

Hosea says that Arthur was a delinquent when they found him on the streets

His father was an outlaw

[sick sphinx]

Agent miltion was in the wrong for killing Hosea

[dark ledge]

What are y’all’s favourite side missions

[oblique quiver]

Orphaned street kid seduced by Dutch’s silver tongue, matures into a degenerate murderer

[sick sphinx]

Unless Hosea killed a innocent person

Which he probably did

[dark ledge]

When did Hosea kill a innocent

[sick sphinx]

He could’ve have not known too

[dark ledge]

Oh

[sick sphinx]

Even if Hosea did kill a innocent if agent miltion didn’t know that

[oblique quiver]

What gang member who actually went into the deep shit wouldn’t have killed an innocent at some point in time

[sick sphinx]

It makes him a horrible human being

[lapis panther]

You think all them years he was an outlaw, he never killed one innocent person?

[oblique quiver]

Exactly lol

[dark ledge]

Purposely?

No

They considered themselves honorable

[lapis panther]

There's a campfire story he tells where he said when he younger he would kill and rob a lot

[dark ledge]

True but

That doesn’t indicate wether innocent or not

[sick sphinx]

Either way

If agent miltion didn’t know

Agent miltion is in the wrong

[oblique quiver]

Ofc they robbed innocents

They’re a gang dude

[sick sphinx]

For thinking he was a innocent person

[oblique quiver]

in the 1800s

[sick sphinx]

And killing him

If that was the case

If you don’t agree what with I’m saying let me give a example

A guy kills some random guy on the street

This guy happens to be a person who killed five people

But the person didn’t know that

And just killed the person they saw on the street

They still are a bad human being

Even if that person did something really bad but they didn’t know it

So if agent miltion didn’t know Hosea was a murder who killed innocents

Then he’s just as bad as the gang

[dark ledge]

Killed them? That’s another story

[lapis panther]

Milton killed Hosea when he could've easily handed him over to the law

[oblique quiver]

No

ofc they robbed and killed

[dark ledge]

Robbed banks, stagecoaches, stuff like that

[sick sphinx]

That’s something that Hosea at his older age wouldn’t like do

Or be like Dutch!

Don’t do that

Being the angel on his shoulder

[lapis panther]

Pinkertons were as bad as the gangs they used to chase