red-dead-singleplayer

[warm salmon]

Nice

[tidal slate]

Its called something with Brown Stripe Chipmunk or something...ffs

Now i just need an Opossum to complete it

[warm salmon]

Those are easy. Hunt at night. Use varmint rifle
And remember - Don't SKIN them

[tidal slate]

I read something like that, someone eat his Chipmunk by Accident on his Campfire...

😄 best Part ever

[obsidian plinth]

That sounds awful oh my god

[fathom mulch]

i was never ready and i never will be

probably how arthur felt tbh

[obsidian plinth]

I was not ready the first time, and I was not ready the next few times. And I'm most certainly not ready now

[fathom mulch]

i feel like they should've done more with john which is kinda why i delay it hopefully we got a mod that allows us to play rdr1 in rdr2

RDR1 was my favourite game coz it was the only rockstar title i was allowed to play as a kid so many great moments then the government screws john over for no apparent reason damn serpents

[obsidian plinth]

There's some mods that add to the after game, i plan on adding some when i get to that point. Otherwise im booting up rdr1 😂

I only played it once, and it took too damn long to get my hands on a copy of the game for my ps3

[fathom mulch]

yea im gonna get expanded bounty hunting mods

[fathom mulch]

i finished it on xbox 360 a bunch of time and 100% on PS3 once a couple years back coz i was collecting all the playstations and said never again lol

my favourite achievment out of the whole game was get 10k bounty and use pardon letter to clear it

[obsidian plinth]

I have a physical copy just because I like to have the disc but I did get it on pc so it should be more fun to play

[fathom mulch]

just kill every cop with the pistol for like 2 hours#

[fathom mulch]

its got a funny bug where u can ride any animal

i got the pc port lol i was riding a deer around lol

[warm salmon]

I did this multiple times 😭

[obsidian plinth]

I had to wait for a steam sale because it was going for too many bones for a game that old

[mighty sparrow]

Hello! Anyone wanna play?

[fathom mulch]

i got it for £10 on a cdkey but on steam its like 35

i dont really care for online either i always preferred single player when it comes to a rockstar game but gta online is good and single player is ass compared to gta 4

[obsidian plinth]

Online is fun when you have someone to play with, I enjoy the different things you can do

But rdr2 is a masterpiece to be. Truly my favorite game

[fathom mulch]

anyone else had a bug where u give pearson the naval compass and the cut scene doesnt play i no longer have the compass but the item request task is still there anyone know how to fix it

ive tried using a save editor just to get rid of it its rather annooying

[foggy glade]

i just finished the main part of the story

and im sitll crying

10 minutes later

[obsidian plinth]

Yeah it'll stick with ya

I cried for a whole day

[foggy glade]

hey, atleast im playing farming simulator 1899

[obsidian plinth]

Happy home designer 1899

I reached that part in the game

[fathom mulch]

its ashame u cant play with mods

[fathom mulch]

this is why i play the game slow im in chaper 3 for 3 days now i spent the same in chapter 2 i live and breathe this game

[neon saddle]

when i try to greet someone i cant and the greet and atnagonize option is flickering white and grey?

is it cuz i just started the game

im at chapter 2

[obsidian plinth]

I spent weeks in chapter 3 tbh, you can just pause everything and fool around. It's the best time to

[obsidian plinth]

Are you close enough to the people? Sometimes you can't greet/antagonize if you're not close enough

[neon saddle]

i am

want a video?

[obsidian plinth]

You can send videos in the media channel I think. Or you can dm it to me and i can try to help you out

[fathom mulch]

indeed it is

[fathom mulch]

save and reload the save

[neon saddle]

tried many times

go on media

[fathom mulch]

u restarted the game>

[neon saddle]

uh cant send

il send u on dms

[foggy glade]

yeah,sadly i cant make john drive a hellcat

soon i will buy a new pc

then i can

[fathom mulch]

dont be doing dumb shitty mods keep it immersive we aint making youtube shorts out here bwoy

my game is roleplayers delight lol and some things that rockstar shouldve just put in the game for better immersion

[obsidian plinth]

Mine is mostly cosmetic stuffs lmao

And decorations

[half flower]

Guys, I'm here right after finishing the game.

I really feel bad for Arthur.

[obsidian plinth]

His fate is so cruel

[half flower]

Yup

[half flower]

Lol, you're playing since 3.5 hrs?

[foggy glade]

ye ik

is there a mod where u can name your horse what you want?

[empty ingot]

can i buy specific ammo like split point one somewhere? Kind of a hustle crafting each bullet

[half flower]

No, it's available by default

[fathom mulch]

bro my horses name isnt censored by default its bad word but it is also kinda cute and at the same a very niche racial slur rockstar has never heard of just get creative

creative names are better because they arent straight up offensive u need a brain for u to be offended

[fathom mulch]

only buy express and high volocity theyre the best rounds

[empty ingot]

Yeah but other ammo types are cool aswell

[fathom mulch]

the split points are just better accuracy and explosive is best used in scripted events

get funny cut scenes

the only things i think that are worth making is poison arrows

[obsidian plinth]

Lmao not my longest.
When I first got the game I'd play 12-13 hours daily

[empty ingot]

read on a magazine that split point causes internal bleeding on the ppl u shoot at. Didnt seem to work tho

[tall pewter]

Holy shit man

They blew a fucking brain off

[obsidian plinth]

I see you finished chapter 3

[foggy glade]

i named my horse (RIP) like my grandpa

as it was a halfbred hungarian and my grandpa is also hungarian

his name was Tamas

[obsidian plinth]

Amazing

[foggy glade]

yes

Tamas is the hungarian word for Thomas

[obsidian plinth]

It sounds so nice

Is it pronounced the way it's spelled ?

[foggy glade]

no

its Tamasch

[tall pewter]

Who

Dutch just aura farmed

Agent Milton was just doing his job

But he's racist

[calm oasis]

If I kill those lollygagers up at Chez Porter, will I still be able to get the home robbery with Javier?

[tidal slate]

Just to make sure, what's a good spawning Location for opossums? At the Moment I'm close to the Emerald Ranch

[astral badger]

++

[viscid skiff]

he did more than just that

the van der lin gang was just anotha gang

but he was able to give them a chance as they were pretty closely tied together compared to most gangs

and ofc the gang refused the offer both times

[calm oasis]

Is the frozen cattle not a POI?

I cant inspect it for some reason

[summer sinew]

Hey does anyone have rdr2 on xbox (specifically disc) i have a question

[calm oasis]

Horses balls shrink in cold???? This game is insane

[midnight ocean]

that's like the games biggest meme lol

[calm oasis]

Somehow this flew past me

[tidal slate]

Sadly it doesn't, that's the Reason why I'm using female Horses. They don't shrink 😏

[summer sinew]

Anyone???

[austere axle]

On the shore between the train bridge that links west elisabeth to new hanover and Clemens point, at night, just wait 5 meters away from the water and do a little walk, they should appear

[obtuse trellis]

your still asking this

😭

[midnight ocean]

what is your question

[tidal slate]

I give it a go tomorrow, even a cowboy 🤠 needs some rest now 😄

[midnight ocean]

lol so theres a chapter 5 mission where dutch is saying chess moves to himself as you approach him to start the mission

so i opened a chess site and played the moves out and guess what opening the sequence of moves is?

the dutch defense

talk about vanity

[austere axle]

"A famous chess move"

[midnight ocean]

wut

oh lmao i just started the cutscene

[naive barn]

Should i always have a temporay horse

[midnight ocean]

imo only if you plan on hunting a lot of big game

but theres really no downside to just always having one i guess

[naive barn]

I do and i dont

I do like to hunt birds though

[midnight ocean]

well small animals are just stored in your satchel

but if you're trying to complete the trapper and need to poach some cattle its nice to be able to take two cow or bull pelts instead of just one

[naive barn]

True but u gotta feed both that gets expesnive

U kill cows u lose honor

Im a high honor player

[midnight ocean]

yeah well i wanted all the trapper outfits lol especially the principal vest which requires a cow pelt

and it really doesnt cost that much honor

[naive barn]

-200

Or 100 i cant remember

I sent u a dm why its hard for me to have a tempory horse

[midnight ocean]

wait so how are you high honor and also go to jail a lot lol

[naive barn]

Alot of greeting

I mainly go to jail for minor stuff

[midnight ocean]

well i mean ive killed a lot of cows and bulls and oxen and my honor is like mid-high

itll probably be max by the time i finish the story

[naive barn]

In level 7 honor

I play as john cause its more peaceful

I like a temporay horse but its so stupid when u cross water or a bridge

But what horse breed would make a good temporay horse their so many breeds u can steal

[midnight ocean]

i mean are you ever gonna ride it lol

like why do you want the temp horse

damn charles sucks

bro died to like two murfrees

[prisma marsh]

very worth the cow murder

[midnight ocean]

exactly

lol arthur to charles "its not worth messing around with boats" makes sense when you consider arthurs experience with boats throughout the game lol especially from chapter 4

almost getting shot on the saint denis riverboat, almost getting eaten by the bullgator in the bayou paddle boat, almost dies in a shipwreck before marooning in guarma

[long tulip]

the only npc in rdr2 i feel bad for is the saint denis tailor man. i robbed him then after 2 days he still didn't treated me bad like other shoppkeepers. Other shopkeepers say me things "have any questions? Feel free not to ask", "Everything on sale expect the floor boards", "Oh sorry I didn't knew you could read", "You know people always talk how big piece of shit you are". While He always speaks so formally avoiding saying mean words to me even if i have robbed him.

[naive barn]

I have buell but i dont ride him he to slow compared to my white araibam

[cyan pendant]

Does anyone know where the blood bay throughbred spawns

[foggy glade]

New Austin and New Hanover I'm pretty sutr

[cyan pendant]

Is it just a random spot

[foggy glade]

Hanover is heartland

And Austin idk rn

[viscid skiff]

austin is out west past blackwater

wouldnt suggest it as getting there is impossible

weird how rockstar added that while not allowing us to go there

[fringe spruce]

Sadly the area seems to be dead, even though we go as John

It would have been Cool if it is like rdr1

[viscid skiff]

🥀

did you not see what i was doing there

[fringe spruce]

Wut?!

[viscid skiff]

oh nvm

me dum

[fringe spruce]

Uhhuh

[humble ether]

can someone help me with an issue i have on rdr2?

[mortal tusk]

What's the issue

[humble ether]

basically

my game doesnt "fit" the screen correctly if i select my gpu

it only does if i select the 1920x1080 resolution, but my screen has lower resolution

it only does fit correctly (and show up my actual resolution) if i select the integrated graphics

and i dont really know why, my drivers are updated and everything.

[mortal tusk]

Oh guh sorry I can't help eith this I play on ps4

[humble ether]

darn

its alright

thanks for trying tho

[mortal tusk]

Have you found anything on reddit/ yourube?

[humble ether]

i searched on reddit and found someone who had the same problem as me, but the post didn't had any comments

and i searched on youtube for similar whatsoever problems, but tried a lot of them and nothing

[mortal tusk]

Ah I see hmm well I'm not sure tbh

Maybe you can try posting urself?

[humble ether]

the comment from the dude is from 3 months ago, i don't think i'll have an awnser soon XD

but, i guess i should try contact rockstar support (again)

[obtuse trellis]

still an issue?

i play on pc

maybe i can help

[humble ether]

Yeah

[cedar pasture]

Say, is there another way to have fun in RDR2 rather than just explore and getting items? I'm thinking more about getting more involved in gunfights but it might cost me the reputation

[midnight ocean]

hunt and rob trains

rob townsfolk

[cedar pasture]

Does by wearing the mask gonna make it less chance of reduced reputation?

[midnight ocean]

think that goes down no matter what

[viscid skiff]

going on mass slaughters can be useful if you find gang hideouts

but rob a few folk every once in a while, fun controls to be had

bunch of secret controls with melee

and have a few bar fights

if you grab em by certain objects (walls, tables, windows) and do the finishing blow while you grabbed em

you can do some fun death animations

that one dude in valentine with the raccoon hat in the saloon sometimes has a LOT of health for punching

Leave the mass shootings later personally

Or go on a shooting and simply get that honor back through other activities, fun to see a LOT of death every once in a while

[tidal slate]

One mission what makes me worse locking all the Time
The Sidequest The Mercies of Knowledge in RDR2

[toxic pier]

no

but you will appear as an unknown suspect

so you can still go to the town you massacred without a wanted

[soft root]

unless you get seen by a cop

since they have x ray goggles in the 1890s

and they will instantly contact the hive mind that they've found you

[rocky rose]

My raven black shire died I'm actually so sad 😭😭😭

[tidal slate]

It is always sad, hence sometimes I just ride along... And miss something and my Stage 4 Horse just died. Even tho I had my white Arab

And me just thinking, damn how I could not see that Rock or Fence...

[dawn harness]

Whats Dutchs political beliefs you reckon

[tall pewter]

Should I collect the dinosaur bones?

[calm oasis]

You cant find them all until epilogue

Since some of them are in New Austin

But you can still find most of them

[soft root]

dang......and that's why horse revivers are so important

[soft root]

conservative

[dawn harness]

Nah they don't tend to be anarchist or socialist

[soft root]

anarchist? huh.....that fits better ig

[winter moat]

I finally did it guys. 100% completed RDR2

my life is complete

even did all the missions on gold though I didnt have to

for the love of the game

[tall pewter]

U plat it??

[half flower]

Interesting

[tidal slate]

... i freaking **** arrr i now looked up nearly 5 different Locations for the Cedar Waxwing and i cant find him

last Time i found one, shoot him and he disapeared right in front of me

what the heck

where is a good Spot for them?!

At the Moment im close to Downes Ranch but hell man, i cant see any?!

[obsidian plinth]

Saving John from prison today

[winter moat]

Yes at long last

And also 100% compendium

And also all missions golded

Nothing is left for me

[broken snow]

Why the fuck dose the rdr2 slogo turn gay then trans

Logo*

[nimble goblet]

????

[obsidian plinth]

I think it was there since pride month but that was all the way in June

Gays love rdr

[tidal slate]

I did if, "Is this Art the 🐿️ Statue" 😄

[small wyvern]

If I get max honor and get the grip for the cattleman revolver then I get the lowest honor for the double action revolver grip do I get both or does it get rid of the other one

[tidal slate]

What's wrong with it?

[lime forge]

what are some good ways to make some money? spent a ton on the camp so now im broke

[calm oasis]

There are a lot of gold bars hidden around the map, treasures, gang hideouts sometimes have up to 100 dollars

[lime forge]

alright

thanks

[winter moat]

so at the end of wisdom of the elders... I still see the crazy shaman guy around the village :/

[tall pewter]

Wait do aurthor stinks

Because someone said something about it

[winter moat]

yeah you gotta bathe him from time to time

also swimming cleans him

[tall pewter]

Mary linton

Too bad John can’t swim

[molten crest]

John when he swims in one inch water: DED

[tall pewter]

This shit sad

Arthur love life

That made me feel some type of way

[winter moat]

confused tf outta me the first time it happened

[minor lion]

random question if any1 knows and this is about the strange man's cabin. I'm trying to progress the art canvas but nothing works , I've been saving the game and coming back each 3 days any suggestions?

[obsidian plinth]

I think it changes with story progression and honor increase/decrease

I could be wrong

[minor lion]

ooh righty I'll try that out tysm!! ^^

[obsidian plinth]

you're welcome!

[long tulip]

why is there javier's bounty poster hanging in the camp in chp 4 😭

[open juniper]

i j finished my 100th playthrough

[scarlet lantern]

I've just started american venom

What happens in it?
(First playthrough btw)

[midnight ocean]

just play it lol

[midnight ocean]

story missions give you a lot

also look out for extra side missions at camp

those are basically always robberies and will get you some money

[scarlet lantern]

I did it

I shot Micah the bastard in the bloody head, he had no eyes in his final breaths

I hope he saw flames in his moments.

[urban girder]

Hell yeah

[scarlet lantern]

I wish I could've aimed for his balls tho

[midnight ocean]

there's always sniper elite

[scarlet lantern]

I don't have that

[long tulip]

do the angelo bronte mission money glitch

[midnight ocean]

really not necessary

by the time you get to that point you can have camp fully upgraded and like $5k in your pocket anyway

[cosmic wasp]

hey bor how does the glitch work?

[tidal slate]

Yawn ... So many things to do.
I'm at 92% competition and the last Thing I did was the Squirrel 🐿️ Statue and found that poor Guy freezing on the Mountain. Heck knows how Abigail climbed up there, while I was sleeping...

[midnight ocean]

This may be one of the most grindy money glitches but here it is. During the mission Angelo Bronte, a man of honor there is a hack where Arthur is able to go to New Austin. John follows him (and is annoyingly close) but you can travel Al the way to Ridgewood Farm in Cholla Springs. There is a tool box behind a shed that has a navel compass, ammo, gum and a gold ingot. DO NOT TAKE THE GOLD. Instead there is what looks like a storage closet or in modern times what would be a water heater closet, climb that and jump down onto the table. Position Arthur between the wall of the shed and the tool box, equip a pistol and dive towards the fence that is near the table. You’ll end up kicking the gold out of the tool box. At this point you can ride West past a railroad track and then return. The gold should respawn and now you can collect 98 more.

this does not sound worth it lol

[midnight ocean]

think im at like 70%

still lots to do

[tidal slate]

But you helped me out a lot..I mean... Even I found my most hated animal there. The freaking Bird "Cedar Waxwing" damn that costs me some nerves...

I don't know how many Videos and Maps, Locations I've checked to find him and on the End... I got one in the 🏜️ Desert

[midnight ocean]

oh good shit lol always happy to help

i need to find a couple robins somewhere i havent seen any in forever

need the feathers for the trapper

[tidal slate]

There is a neat spot, where I actually found everything I need. Like Including all the Rare Birds which makes me wonder...

[midnight ocean]

the exotic birds?

[cyan pendant]

Doesn’t anyone know that Missouri Fox Trotter glitch were you kill the lady over and over I’ve don’t that every play through and I can’t get her to respawn

[midnight ocean]

think that one is really iffy

can you try getting it through arcadia for amateurs instead?

[tidal slate]

Well I've found nearly everything I need

And even more

[tidal slate]

River South of Caliban’s Seat

Location: South of Caliban’s Seat, near the Dakota River. Robins,Woodpeckers
Orioles,Sparrows
Cardinals,Songbirds,Cedar Waxwings

[midnight ocean]

nice

yeah i need to kill a couple robins and also a hooded oriole so ill check that out

i basically havent been back up to new hanover since starting chapter 4 aside from that one quest

might just wait for the epilogue at this point

[tidal slate]

If you find Caliban's Seat, which is south of Valentine… post up on the south shore of the river roughly across from that junction. There’s a number of big rocks in the river there and there are constantly small birds landing on them all day

[midnight ocean]

yeah i know calibans seat

[tidal slate]

You nearly find everything Bird Wise on that spot

[midnight ocean]

thats where the first treasure map takes you

[cyan pendant]

The what

[midnight ocean]

the silver dapple mft

[calm oasis]

Uhm

[cyan pendant]

Arcadia for amateurs

[midnight ocean]

you can get it by using an exploit during arcadia for amateurs III

[calm oasis]

I have accidentally

And I really mean it

[cosmic wasp]

thank you so much

[calm oasis]

Accidentally

[midnight ocean]

its a stranger mission

[calm oasis]

Killed Wróbel

[midnight ocean]

[cyan pendant]

The Albert mason one

[midnight ocean]

yes

third one where hes photographing horsies

[cosmic wasp]

[midnight ocean]

by emerald ranch

the mft runs away after the mission but if you start tracking it just before completing it and skip the ending cutscene you can pick up the trail again

its really hard to track it down though, i wasnt able to do it after like five attempts

[cyan pendant]

Taht never works for me

[midnight ocean]

yeah

[cyan pendant]

I’ve always done this method I’ve never had her not spawn

I’ve done it like 4 times

[tidal slate]

By the Way I got the Blueprint for Poison arrows... But I can't craft them, do I need all the ingredients first? Or that's the reason

[midnight ocean]

i think theres another one you can try

like theres one where she needs a ride to emerald ranch and one where she needs a ride to lagras

[cosmic wasp]

yall like my pfp?

[midnight ocean]

if you dont have the ingredients yeah you need them

oleander sage for poison weapons

btw you can view recipes you dont have the ingredients for by hitting "show all" in the crafting menu

[cyan pendant]

I just don’t know if that one works

[tidal slate]

Yes I miss the Oleander Roots I think

[midnight ocean]

"During the random encounter where the woman's horse "Biscuit" has died and she needs a ride to Emerald Ranch, a glitch can occur where the horse, a Silver Dapple Pinto, will be found alive and can be claimed.

Similarly, a woman needing a ride to Lagras will also have Silver Dapple Pinto that will occasionally spawn alive. One way to ensure this is to go stand upon Face Rock where the event spawns by, aim with a sniper rifle at the road below after which the event should spawn so long as the encounter has not been completed by the player prior, and keep shooting the lady. This causes both her and her horse to respawn, and eventually, it should respawn alive, and be claimed by the player.

this is from steam community

[cosmic wasp]

woolie you know way toomuch about rdr2

[midnight ocean]

thats our boah

[cosmic wasp]

ha!

[tidal slate]

And XD because I'm an achievement hunter for steam lol. I need one but I can't get it 😄

[midnight ocean]

LOL well doing 100% you learn a lot

[cosmic wasp]

yeah

gt good night

gtg

[midnight ocean]

gn

[tidal slate]

It says create a Permanent Group ... I wonder why those RDO achievements are rare...

I'm more freelancing in RDO then getting shoot to bits by them greedy Modders

[midnight ocean]

lot of people dont play online at all

like me lol

i do want those achievements tho

[tidal slate]

Well I do XD

I'm Level 78 in RDO

Not much compared to others but I'm trying...

But now I'm addicted to get 100 percent done in Single Player... Which is pretty er .. well

[midnight ocean]

id probably be done already if i werent also going for gold rush

lemme check my online level

[tidal slate]

Hence I need to investigate or research 18 animals which I'm missing... For zoologic and skin 24 more

I need to check my compendium which one I miss...

[midnight ocean]

i am level 5 lol

[midnight ocean]

i have a lot of missing slots but i think its basically all new austin animals

only the hooded oriole and small brown bat i need to skin still

[tidal slate]

I got my Bat from a Cave near Van Horn. Easiest Spot to find em...

There is even this poisoned Treasure inside the Cave and some other Treasure

On the Entrance it's full of Rats and Bats

[midnight ocean]

the elysian pool cave right

i been there a couple times

[tidal slate]

It's located behind a waterfall at the Elysian Pool

Yes exactly

[midnight ocean]

yeah ive done that one but the first time i wasnt paying attention to my compendium so i didnt get a bat

second time i went there, no bats at all

[cyan pendant]

I swear these spawns don’t work

[tidal slate]

I found a perfect one for the Hunter Request inside that Cave

[midnight ocean]

theres a chapter 4 stranger mission that spawns bats but idk if you can kill one

yeah i also will need that perfect bat so ill just wait til im john

[tidal slate]

They are laying on the floor, not hanging on the Top of the Cave

[midnight ocean]

i looked all over lol nothing but a rat or two

[tidal slate]

I just went inside and found a perfect 3 star bat laying next to me

Just during Daytime

Or inside the Fort close to Van Horn

Hanging from the Rooftop inside

I guess if I find 18 animals and skin them there are only 6 others which I've already found but not skinned...

Well. I will get there

Need to take a nap now. My Mrs already sleeping, she's gonna skin me if I'm not awake later on haha or remain sitting in front Rdr2

[midnight ocean]

lol

[cyan pendant]

So I might just restart my game fully I’m just at chapter 2

Cause I kinda really want the mft

[tidal slate]

I dont restart, I maybe create a new save and try to reach the Spot which I need.

By any reason i miss an achievement XD

Where u need to bring your mates 5 Things they need... I don't even know what Chapter that is

[cyan pendant]

Nah unless you guys know a equaly good horse then

[tidal slate]

Im missing this " Errand Boy "

And it says sniff...
This trophy can be missed if you don't do it before Chapter V!

[midnight ocean]

arabian?

[tidal slate]

Rats

[midnight ocean]

or the free thoroughbred if you have special edition or whatever

[naive barn]

@cyan pendant the wild white arabian its fast

[midnight ocean]

damn

did you get friends with benefits?

[naive barn]

I got the special edition but i never claimed the free horse i dont like it

[tidal slate]

If you say damn that means... I need to play up to chapter 5 XD again

[midnight ocean]

dont like the coat?

[midnight ocean]

for camp requests? naw you can probably get them all in chapter 2

[naive barn]

No seems a bit slow compared to the white araiban

[tidal slate]

Yes it's the camp Requests

[midnight ocean]

barely

[naive barn]

What u mean barely

[tidal slate]

Is there even a better Horse then the White Arabian?

[naive barn]

@midnight ocean what u mean barely

[midnight ocean]

thimble for jack, book for jack, $5 for abigail, book for hosea, herbs for hosea, rabbit for pearson, pipe for dutch, pocket watch for lenny, pen for molly, all available in chapter 2 i believe

[tidal slate]

At the moment I got this Free Horse from that Guy hunting in the Woods. Can't remember the Name

[midnight ocean]

i mean the RDB thoroughbred is very fast as well

in fact i think the top speed is better than the arabians, its just that the acceleration is slightly worse

[naive barn]

It is but i prefer female horses over males its a male also terrible max level abd stamina stats

[midnight ocean]

RDB thorough and MFT have the same speed stats i think

[midnight ocean]

buell?

[tidal slate]

Yes

[midnight ocean]

oh lol i dont have a preference

but i dont like small horses

[tidal slate]

I got him next to my White Arabian in the Stable

[naive barn]

It doesnt have good max health and stamina levels

[midnight ocean]

so no arabians for me

id like an mft or turkoman ideally

[naive barn]

The free horse

[midnight ocean]

i think the dutch warmblood you can buy at the very start is a decent starter horse if i start another game for some reason i might buy her just to do something different

pretty coat too

[naive barn]

Whats the nnax level and health stamina for the free special horse

[midnight ocean]

yeah but do those even matter

[naive barn]

Yeah if u run alot

[midnight ocean]

tonics exist tho

[naive barn]

I like fast horses not slow

[midnight ocean]

you're only gonna run out of stamina if you're like doing those horse challenges to ride from one town to another. and even then you can just use items to boost it

[midnight ocean]

i thought you were talking about stamina

[naive barn]

I neex ones with high health so when i get in shootouts with lawmen

[midnight ocean]

like i said, the speed on the rdb thoroughbred is very high

[tidal slate]

Hah Horse Challenge... I hated that Thing from Van to Blackwater

[midnight ocean]

i gotta do that one soon

[tidal slate]

At the Moment I'm doing the Horse Challenge 10 but I'm still missing some wild Horses

Think I only got 4 so far or 5

[midnight ocean]

yeah i just use deadeye liberally so they dont get a chance to shoot my horse too much

[naive barn]

I never thought of doing that

[midnight ocean]

using deadeye?

[naive barn]

Yeah

I also like to run fast into other horses parked or people riding them

[tidal slate]

Well. 🛑 Here ... Bed 🛏️

XD sorry

[naive barn]

So the horse gotta have high health

[cyan pendant]

They have like no health tho bro

[midnight ocean]

lmao

[naive barn]

So whats the health level start also stamina for the free horse

Im not on the game rn

[midnight ocean]

idk but the max is 6 and 6

speed 10 acceleration 7

[midnight ocean]

thats not true

they have a ton of health

the rose gray bay arabian has the highest possible health and stamina

white and black are pretty high too

[naive barn]

Is the gold turkeymon fast as the araiban i like that horse

I like the gold color

[midnight ocean]

that sucks because the rose gray is just better than the white lol

but its a minor difference so if you prefer the coat of the white then thats fine

[naive barn]

Thats true but the white more pretty

[midnight ocean]

turko is slightly slower than the RDB thorough

but more health and stamina

[naive barn]

Oh whats another horse as close as fast as the araiba

[livid aspen]

Hello guys please why the game is soooooo buggy on pc i just start the campaign i have no mod

[midnight ocean]

none basically

[livid aspen]

Like sometimes I cant move and when I go to menu nothing work it’s just a grey screen

[naive barn]

Oh that sucks

[midnight ocean]

the RDB, MFT, and reverse dapple roan nokota all have 10 speed and 7 acceleration

[cyan pendant]

Would the brindle throughbred be better?

[midnight ocean]

so theyre all a bit faster than an arabian but worse acceleration

[midnight ocean]

same as the RDB

[foggy glade]

Yo can uncle just die

I hate him

Whining about lumbago laying down while I rebuilt a Frickin ranch

[cyan pendant]

RDB

?

[midnight ocean]

reverse dapple black thoroughbred

the stats depend on the coat

[naive barn]

@midnight ocean u r right it is fast

The free horse

[midnight ocean]

toldja

[naive barn]

As soon as i ran it took off

Whats the bravery status my white ariban doesnt buck me off in a wolf ambush at all

[cyan pendant]

The white ariban is know for being skittish at a wolf sneeze

[naive barn]

Well it never bucked me off

[midnight ocean]

i got bucked so much looking for shit in the swamps lol

but if you have your rifle equipped youll be ok

[cyan pendant]

Go to a snake

[naive barn]

Even to a snake it didnt buck me off

[cyan pendant]

Yeah either your not close enough or your just straight lying

[alpine jacinth]

stand right behind the horse and smack it

so people didnt like that i said gavin is the new austin sniper

why dont people like fan theories in a game where littlethings like this are so idk unintangible myserious

[naive barn]

Ive learned a little trick i hit the calm buttin why i arouns predotors when i am in wolf ambush i hit the calm buttin and shoot fast never got bucked off doing tjst

But she is very skitish of the train

[alpine jacinth]

i still stand behind gavins the new austin sniper

[indigo hound]

yo

[alpine jacinth]

yo

[indigo hound]

yooo

[alpine jacinth]

what do you think of gavin being the new austin sniper

[indigo hound]

idk who gavin is

[alpine jacinth]

oh

[indigo hound]

is that the guy who someone in rhodes screams

[alpine jacinth]

theres a guy whos looking for his friend gavin

but you never find him

apparently its been confirmed that gavin is just his ex who left england

[cyan pendant]

@midnight ocean do you know if I can get the mft using the I want something new glitch

[opaque dagger]

hello guys, i need help i have to craft a poison arrow for a challenge but in the firecamp i cant make single arrow; i have the read the recipe, i have the ingredients, i have no modified arrow in my inventory just regular, but i cant craft them, help pls

[trim hamlet]

getting bucked off? what's that like? /j
-ardennes user

[alpine jacinth]

hot take keyboard is better for rdr2

[trim hamlet]

just met him lmao

[cyan pendant]

Took my advice huh

[trim hamlet]

oh, I got rid of that dumbass Morgan as soon as I could. Saw the ardennes in the stable and was like

"this thing is an absolute unit I love it"

"wait why the f--k is it malnourished. this cannot continue."

I then proceeded to buy out all the food in the stable lmao

[cyan pendant]

I think that’s what we all said when we got a Ardennes

[midnight ocean]

idk what that is but afaik its just the two method

[midnight ocean]

lol

the downside being that you might occasionally trample an animal you wanted to skin

[cyan pendant]

I might just look for that black ariban then

[midnight ocean]

dont go too crazy over the horse stats it really doesnt make that much of a difference

especially if you plan on actually beating the game since you will lose your horses after that

black arabian is available for purchase in saint denis in chapter 4

i think there is a way to get a free one tho

[soft root]

apparently, ardennes are still afraid of gators...

at least, my bay roan is

[midnight ocean]

bro

why the fuck is there no in game timer for timed objectives

[obtuse trellis]

you need to set up your own camp

[opaque dagger]

Even if i do, that doesnt show up

[obtuse trellis]

the craft button doesnt come up?

[midnight ocean]

can you maybe take a video or screenshot?

[midnight ocean]

you dont need a campfire to craft weapons actually

just select the crafting tools instead of the campfire

[opaque dagger]

No i just got ammo craft, but not any arrow craft

[opaque dagger]

Can i send you that tomorrow ?

[midnight ocean]

can you scroll down? arrows are at the bottom of the ammo crafting menu

[opaque dagger]

Ye i did

[midnight ocean]

and theres no arrow recipes at all?

[opaque dagger]

No

[midnight ocean]

in the bottom right it should show a key for "show all" can you try hitting that?

it says show all or show craftable

[opaque dagger]

Its weird bg i could craft before, but not anymore

[opaque dagger]

I’ll try tomorrow and let you know

Thx

[midnight ocean]

np

[midnight ocean]

someone stole javiers horse lol

[mortal tusk]

That happens?? XD

[midnight ocean]

nah it was a total fluke lol

camped at beaver hollow and encountered a bounty being transported. freed him and he ran from me towards camp and jumped on javiers horse and tried to flee

[mortal tusk]

why is it always javier bro

[midnight ocean]

johns luck is worse

[mortal tusk]

How so

[midnight ocean]

the wolves, the imprisonment

son gets kidnapped

and thats just rdr2 lol

[mortal tusk]

True....

[dawn harness]

The wolves was a terrible way for rockstar to explain the scars

Like bruh what a terrible way to explain the scars

I would've had a cougar or a bear or a knife wound instead

[midnight ocean]

whats wrong with wolves as opposed to cougar or bear

[viscid skiff]

Nearly freezing to death and getting almost killed by wolves is a good reason

[tidal slate]

I know that feeling, if you try to get the White Arab again 😄 ... The 🐺 are like oh look another Player, let's chew him apart

[midnight ocean]

nice i finished the second widow mission and after it ended there was just a 3 star moose chillin right there

[weary harness]

did you kill

[tidal slate]

well, Time to play till chapter 2... and try to regain that Achivment 😄

[tall pewter]

Who think who can beat Arthur

Ik rdr1 John can

[clever storm]

i could whoop his ass

[fast forge]

Ts tuff

[tall pewter]

Guys how I do this mission

Exotics

[tall pewter]

HOLY

shit

Wtf going on

[tall pewter]

Damn this game is long as shit

[scarlet lantern]

Ok

I Know this'll sound odd

But can anyone help me identify the song that plays when you chase Nathan Kirk in that one mission?

[tall pewter]

What

[obtuse trellis]

landon rickets

[compact robin]

bruh how the hell did micah not get infected by arthur tb specially when he so close when fighting him

specially the mouth

thats how mycobacterium tubercolosis get primarily spread

yet for some reason micah wasnt infected or didnt contracted the disease

[opaque dagger]

that work to show all, thx a lot

[obtuse trellis]

thats not how tb works

[compact robin]

It is primarily spread through talking, sneezing, and coughing

Which did happened near Arthur's death

And Micah was so close to his face

They were tired and heavily breathing

Which was a possibility of infection

[obtuse trellis]

yeah thats true but

tb doesnt just happen because someone spread it to you

your immune system kills it most of the time as long as its strong enough

arthur probably gave all the gang members tb or (inactive tb) but their immune systems were strong enough to kill it off

arthurs immune system was also strong enough to kill it off but because of guarma tb took over

and there was no way for arthur to spread tb prior to guarma because tb didnt take over yet

all the smaller coughing fits he has before guarma are just from bad lungs because of smoking

so guarma is the real reason arthur got tb not thomas downs since thomas downs gave him inactive tb that his immune system could have killed off or adleast delayed by a long shot

[pure plinth]

Gold Rush is so hard bruh 😭

[obtuse trellis]

you also need to take in consideration that arthur was shot by a shotgun and he smoked alot which made his immune system even weaker

[pure plinth]

the don't get damage during shotout is bs objective

[compact robin]

Oh I see

Regardless there's also certain scenes at the end where Arthur kinda tried to infect Micah which is why I bought it up

[tall pewter]

I just realized that John Marston was really a threat in rdr1

He was a monster

Javier thought he was gonna escape John

[compact robin]

John seemed to be a better gunmen than red Harlow or Landon rickets

[scenic chasm]

how do i give pelts to pearson?

[ocean coyote]

Has anyone have an encounter with a male beating a female in rdr2 single player?

[lapis dagger]

i have

[ocean coyote]

Is there specific locations or time

[lapis dagger]

i find them a lot in valentine and saint denis

[tidal slate]

Well well...

[cyan pendant]

It’s his stubbornness honestly

[tall pewter]

Idk about red harlow

Red harlow a beast

[tall pewter]

Hes the fastest quick drawler

[scarlet lantern]

Yes, but

Jack swift

[tall pewter]

Are u talking about the dude in the suit

[obtuse trellis]

when

arthur thought he was gonna kill micah whats the point in infecting him

[foggy glade]

Last fight probably

[pale scaffold]

In a duel, Micah, he is probably the best gunslinger in the game

You can see in the last mission that he draws faster than Arthur

[tall pewter]

Idk

Ik prime landon ricketts solos

And rdr1 John

Maybe jack
Too

Who's the new Austin sniper?

But rdr1 John really up there

[obtuse trellis]

arthur thought he was gonna shoot micah why would he try to infect him

[obtuse trellis]

arthur was dying gng

also draws dont mean anything its all about aim and micahs close range aim is terrible i mean look at bro in the final mission in the game

couldnt hit john once with his overpowered fast guns when john was standing right in front of him

[nimble goblet]

he was drunk in american venom

[obtuse trellis]

he was?

how

[nimble goblet]

yea

erm i guess he drank

[obtuse trellis]

but wheres the proof

[nimble goblet]

sadie says he was drinking in strawberry

also he didnt gaf about being shot by john

alcohol delays the onset of shock

[obtuse trellis]

but even arthur said micahs close range aim is terrible

[nimble goblet]

what

yeah he doesa

maybe his close aim sucks but he hit every shot on john if you try and shoot him

from further range

hes definitely skilled tho especially when sean scene he was the first to react and start shooting

[obtuse trellis]

his guns were the fastest at the time

especially when hes just blindly shooting towards john

[midnight ocean]

he was also old and possibly had one eye

[obtuse trellis]

obviously micah is better than john up until 1911

[nimble goblet]

probably doesnt sleep either

[obtuse trellis]

1911 john was better

but arthur was better than micah in 1899

up until he was sick

[midnight ocean]

idk if you can definitely say who's better than who without them actually dueling each other

[nimble goblet]

🥀

especially since arthur in gameplay is not canon whatsoever

[obtuse trellis]

johns definitely better then arthur in 1911 but if arthur lived to 1911 hed probably be better than john

[nimble goblet]

the only time we actually saw arthur drawing and shooting outside of gameplay was the bottles with sean

[obtuse trellis]

micah was just really fast but overall arthur was better in 1899

[obtuse trellis]

deadeye

the fact that he can use deadeye

[nimble goblet]

deadeye isnt canon lol

its implication is that arthur and john are very skilled

[obtuse trellis]

yeah obviously

[obtuse trellis]

yeah

thats what i mean

the fact that for the player to be able to see arthur draw and shoot you need to be in deadeye says alot

[nimble goblet]

huh

[midnight ocean]

what are you basing that on

[nimble goblet]

wouldnt arthur be worse

he'd be old in 1911

well old for the time

late 40s

john was still in his 30s and got trained by landon ricketts

[obtuse trellis]

the fact that arthur was dead in 1911

lol

johns skill only got better

arthurs got worse and worse because of tb

[nimble goblet]

arthur was almost 10 years older than john

[obtuse trellis]

it depends i guess

[nimble goblet]

i dont doubt his reflexes would have gotten worse by 1911

• again john got tutorial by landon ricketts

[obtuse trellis]

arthur also killed legendary gunslingers tho

the “best” of his time

[nimble goblet]

yea 12 years before 1911

[obtuse trellis]

who was the best gunslinger in 1911

besides john

i dont remember

[nimble goblet]

idk landon ricketts

[obtuse trellis]

he was old tho

[nimble goblet]

we dont see the whole population

[viscid skiff]

in a profession where men die young

[nimble goblet]

he beat the system

[viscid skiff]

we dont see him shoot too much, but the bits here and there are impressive

[obtuse trellis]

wasnt there someone who drew faster than john

someone with two guns

forgot his name

[viscid skiff]

falco hernendez

[obtuse trellis]

what

[nimble goblet]

jim boy has the fastest draw

in the game

[viscid skiff]

oh wait you meant micah

[obtuse trellis]

im talking about rdr1

[obtuse trellis]

no

[nimble goblet]

no one dual wielded in rdr1

[obtuse trellis]

theres someone in rdr1

when you open a barn door i think

he draws faster than john

leigh johnsan

i think was his name

[midnight ocean]

the armadillo marshal?

leigh johnson

but again with all the factors that go into this and without seeing them just go head to head against one another you're really just speculating on who would beat who. this isnt dragon ball z where everyone has a power level

[obtuse trellis]

i mean

id assume its harder to draw two guns

and aim two guns

like micahs guns were flipped in the holster

[midnight ocean]

if you practice then that type of draw is just as fast as regular

and you still have the option of just drawing one

though idk why drawing both would be slower since your arms can move at the same time lol

but yeah it was popular to wear your guns like that back then because it made them less likely to fall out of the holsters when you were seated or on a horse

wild bill hickock famously carried two revolvers and wore them in reverse like that and hes regarded as one of the greatest of all time

[obtuse trellis]

because his guns are flipped

[midnight ocean]

read what i just said

[obtuse trellis]

ohh

[naive barn]

Shoot i still gotta bond with that race horse

[midnight ocean]

i put my horse through so much shit yesterday i feel bad

[naive barn]

That horse took off as soon as i started running

[midnight ocean]

those damn rocky slopes in roanoke

[naive barn]

It outrab lawmen faster then my white araiban did

[midnight ocean]

what horse is it

[naive barn]

The free one

[midnight ocean]

hell yeah

[obtuse trellis]

but also this has nothing to do with drawing but wouldnt micahs guns be like really bad since their so dirty

[midnight ocean]

i named mine henry

[naive barn]

I named mine jack

[midnight ocean]

are they dirty? i assume he takes good care of them

[obtuse trellis]

no i have his actual gun in game i stole it in chapter 1 they are mad dirty the second you get them

[naive barn]

It almost got killed once cause i was runnibg away fron a mexicab wanting to kill me

He followed me into valentine and the lawmen did the work for me

[obtuse trellis]

they are so dirty that even if you use gun oil they still are dirty

[midnight ocean]

well micah was in a pretty bad way by the time he dies. hes hiding in the mountains and might not have access to cleaning supplies

[naive barn]

I try to get the lawmen or sheriff to kill them instead of me

[obtuse trellis]

but i have his gun since chapter 1 they are always dirty throughout the entire story

[naive barn]

It rubs faster with a deer on its back thwn my white ariban

[midnight ocean]

im looking at a pic, doesnt look dirty at all

[obtuse trellis]

they are all chipped up too

[midnight ocean]

just scratched up

[naive barn]

But the low health is what worries me

[obtuse trellis]

look in media

[midnight ocean]

ive been using that horse the whole time and the only times hes gone down have been because i was trying to traverse cliffs and fell lol

[naive barn]

Once i get it to level 6 it wont bad bad rn i at level 2 i play another game along with rdr2

[midnight ocean]

isnt level 4 the max for a horse

[naive barn]

Yeah

[midnight ocean]

so how are you gonna get it to 6

[naive barn]

I mean healtg and stamina will be level 6

[upper stone]

where is the trappers

[obtuse trellis]

@midnight ocean look in general media

[obtuse trellis]

saint denis

is the main shop

[upper stone]

are there any near rhodes

[midnight ocean]

yeah i think those are just scratches

[upper stone]

my map is blurred

[midnight ocean]

handle looks perfect

[midnight ocean]

what lol

[upper stone]

like its not all visible

[midnight ocean]

maybe restart your game

[obtuse trellis]

its not even the same color tho plus when you get his gun the stats are so that even cleaning it with gun oil the weapon isnt at full condition

[austere elk]

Yo

[naive barn]

@midnight ocean question is how brave is it against wolfs and bears gators snakes panthers cougars

[upper stone]

yo

[austere elk]

Can u send me ur name?

[midnight ocean]

well again he had been living rough in the mountains for a while and the guns condition probably deteriorated then

[upper stone]

?

[austere elk]

Ur display name

[upper stone]

why

[austere elk]

because it looks cool

[obtuse trellis]

but they are like that the whole story

[midnight ocean]

its fine if you keep your distance but you will get bucked

[obtuse trellis]

so wouldnt their stats be worsend

[naive barn]

Ik a trick to keepthem calm

[midnight ocean]

im talking about the fact that cleaning them doesnt restore full condition

[obtuse trellis]

but how would the mountains degrade them if hes with the gang until the epilogue

because if your talking about how you can only get his guns in the epilouge you can get them in every chapter before then

[midnight ocean]

theres like an eight year timeskip between arthur dying and micah dying bro

[obtuse trellis]

so the epilouge model isnt the only model we see

[obtuse trellis]

and

[midnight ocean]

so they would have degraded during those 8 years in the mountains

[obtuse trellis]

i got his guns in chapter 1 they were still like that

and again in chapter 3

[midnight ocean]

yeah but thats unintended by the devs, so you cant use that

non canon

[obtuse trellis]

im not talking about how they end up

[obtuse trellis]

its the same gun he holds in his hand

[naive barn]

I prefer to stay in the heart lands

[tidal slate]

Damn now I hate starting a news Save... Just because I wanted to have this achievement. Now I have to play till Chapter 3 -_-

[midnight ocean]

yeah and they dont even look dirty in the pic you posted like i said already lol theyre just scratched up

which doesnt affect the guns performance anyway

dont let the game mislead you into thinking cleaning a gun is just rubbing the outside with oil either lol

[obtuse trellis]

yesh obv

[midnight ocean]

the inside is what matters

[obtuse trellis]

wait then why is dutchs gun in perfect condition

in epilouge 2

[midnight ocean]

dutch wasnt with him the whole time afaik

yeah dutch doesnt meet up with micah until the same year micah is killed

before that hes doing his own thing, at some point he tried to rob a bank

[obtuse trellis]

💀

again

bros just asking for it

atp

the whole bank thing never made sense to me

[midnight ocean]

yeah he fucks up a bank robbery then hides in tall trees until heading to the mountains to meet with micah

[obtuse trellis]

why not just steal a boat instead of robbing a city bank

that wouldve been safer

[midnight ocean]

wdym steal a boat

[obtuse trellis]

i mean arthur and javier basically take out the entire saint denis boat

[obtuse trellis]

steal a boat to go to tahiti

or something

[midnight ocean]

because none of them know how to sail a ship i imagine

also they need money for more than just the boat trip

[obtuse trellis]

then just pay a captain

[obtuse trellis]

they didnt need money to set up camps

[midnight ocean]

bruh

[obtuse trellis]

they already had supplies

[midnight ocean]

you need to play the game again and watch the scenes lol

they talk about this stuff

[obtuse trellis]

4th playthrough chapter 6

im on

[midnight ocean]

time to start over

[obtuse trellis]

i dont get why they couldnt just steal a river boat and pay a captin then set up a camp in tahiti

[midnight ocean]

how do you think theyre planning to make a living in tahiti

what mangoes

they need to grow the mangoes before they can harvest them

[obtuse trellis]

dutch says in chapter 4 they were gonna become mango farmers

[midnight ocean]

yes you cant just show up somewhere with no money and start farming lol

its like starting any other business

you need money, dutch specifically mentions needing a lot of money to buy the seeds to start the farm with. theyd also have to buy the land and other supplies and maybe even pay bribes to the government of tahiti

[obtuse trellis]

how didnt they have enough money tho

they had 30k i think

maybe even 40k

[midnight ocean]

30k from what

the blackwater money which they lost or the saint denis money which they lost?

[obtuse trellis]

no

the valentine bank robbery was 20k

[naive barn]

That doesnt explain how john gets all that money in the end

[obtuse trellis]

and id assume that with all the stage coachs they rob and stuffbits around another 10k

[obtuse trellis]

the money john got was the blackwater money

micah went back and got it

[midnight ocean]

well half of that goes to bill molly arthur and uh

i feel like a fourth guy was there

so only 10k towards the tahiti dream

but also none of that really matters because dutch never really wanted to take everyone to tahiti

that was just a pipe dream to keep everyone following him

[obtuse trellis]

molly?

what did molly do

it was bill karen and lenny that were with arthur

[midnight ocean]

yeah i got karen and mollys names confused lol

[obtuse trellis]

if they wanted to go to tahiti so bad why not just give it all

what is bill and the other 2 spending allat money on

[midnight ocean]

i dont think anyone wanted to go that bad, they were just doing as dutch instructed them

[midnight ocean]

hair pomade

[obtuse trellis]

aint he bald bro

what he pomading

[midnight ocean]

we're getting into the real deep lore now

hair pomade was once used by people out west for uh

lubrication

for certain activities between members of the same sex

and its implied this is the purpose for which bill wants the pomade

idk about friends but he does run into the guy and they get to talking

i dont think so because that interaction probably normally occurs in chapter 4

bill was asking around about the gang, so its not far fetched to imagine a pinkerton overheard this

why does that someone necessarily have to be sonny

you can also kill sonny before chapter 5 so

how would he rat the gang out

[obtuse trellis]

he stays alive tho

because even if you kill him right after he knocks out arthur and robs him bill will still come up to arthur in camp and talk about him

[nimble goblet]

ok so

bill couldve known him before you kill him

[midnight ocean]

you can kill him before that too

but yeah he respawns in the epilogue

[nimble goblet]

bro beat the system

[midnight ocean]

also i dont really picture sonny as the type of guy to run to the cops

does he even know who the gang is

[nimble goblet]

who knows what bill squeals when he's all rattled up

rdr3 should be about the close intimate relationship between bill and sonny

[obtuse trellis]

but hes a cannon npc hes not just any npc in the game like you can kill sister caldrahon if your truly evil but she just respawns

[midnight ocean]

yeah i understand that

[obtuse trellis]

bill wasnt the one who led the pinkertons

arthur was

[nimble goblet]

i looked in every direction on the ride back i couldnt see a pinkerton

[obtuse trellis]

theres a note that you have to read in shady bell

and a pinkerton actually reads it

if you stay and watch

thats how they find out about the gang

[obtuse trellis]

they didnt follow arthur they just knew

[nimble goblet]

all cause of arthurs mud prints

[obtuse trellis]

not really

they had to check everyday anyway

[midnight ocean]

what if you kill them all

[obtuse trellis]

also dutch was the one who told arthur to go back there and sadie was the one who left the note so

[obtuse trellis]

thats not cannon

🤓

[midnight ocean]

how do you know

[obtuse trellis]

because why would they read the note then

if you leave them

yous supposed to just sneak out the objective literally says “go to lakay” not “take out the pinkertons”

[midnight ocean]

but if you fuck up sneaking you have to fight them right

[obtuse trellis]

well obviously

but thats not what your supposed to do

if you were supposed to take them out it would auto equip your weapon

[midnight ocean]

didnt you also say it was arthurs fault

wouldnt that be sadies fault

[obtuse trellis]

arthurs the one that left the note on the table with pinkertons outside

he couldve grabbed it then snuck out

but saide also shouldnt have left it out in the open on purpose

like what if arthur didnt get there in time

whole gang wouldve died

[midnight ocean]

yeah its also weird that arthur wouldnt want to take out the pinkertons after they read the letter

but also you can skip going to shady belle altogether and the game actually has dialogue for it

so tough to say its definitely non canon

[obtuse trellis]

its also weird that they camp out in the same area for three chapters in a row

they went from infront of braithrate mansion to behind its ashs to barley across the swamp

[midnight ocean]

? shady belle is far from the mansion

[obtuse trellis]

look at the map

its next to it

[midnight ocean]

no it isnt lol what

[obtuse trellis]

ill send

[midnight ocean]

idk what you're showing with that screenshot because you didnt even get shady belle in the image lol

but while they do seem kinda close there is meant to be a good distance between clemens point and shady belle

[obtuse trellis]

it wasnt in the image

[midnight ocean]

then what are you showing me with that screenshot

[obtuse trellis]

still in the relatively same area

[obtuse trellis]

because shady bell is right at that bottom

[midnight ocean]

theyre also running out of space to run, where do you expect them to go? they cant hide in saint denis

at that point theyre just looking for anything to buy themselves some time

[ripe abyss]

lowkey this server a little dead

[midnight ocean]

going to lakay is an emergency decision and only meant to be temporary anyway

[obtuse trellis]

they couldve just stayed in shady bell for a day or two than get jack and leave

instead they did all this extra stuff

[midnight ocean]

7 year old single player game so yeah lol

[midnight ocean]

leave and go where?

[obtuse trellis]

wherever dutch was boasting about

he said they were gonna leave right after they get jack

[midnight ocean]

tahiti?

[obtuse trellis]

instead they stayed for days

[obtuse trellis]

no

[ripe abyss]

they have online though

[obtuse trellis]

he didnt say tahiti until chapter 4

in chapter 3 the plan was to leave right after gettinng jack

[midnight ocean]

yeah but i think the game is mostly known for its single player

[midnight ocean]

what mission does he say that in

[ripe abyss]

yaa

[obtuse trellis]

im banned from online because i have mods downloaded 😭

[ripe abyss]

[ripe abyss]

[obtuse trellis]

after the attack on braithrate mannor he said they were gonna get jack then leave but then he stayed to rob some random trolly and the entire bank

it also never made sense to me on how they were able to go back to saint denis after guarma

[midnight ocean]

because they needed the money

[obtuse trellis]

why not just rob a smaller town

[midnight ocean]

they dont

[midnight ocean]

less money, also what town?

rhodes?

[obtuse trellis]

they do three times

[obtuse trellis]

maybe

they couldve robbed a few

couldve robbed rhodes then sent somebody to another town

[midnight ocean]

there is a special edition mission where you rob the rhodes bank with charles

[obtuse trellis]

is that cannon tho

i dont think

[midnight ocean]

well the gang as a whole kinda already got chased out of rhodes so maybe they considered it too risky to go back

but also the saint denis bank is a much bigger score

[obtuse trellis]

first time when arthur gets diagnosed then meets sadie second time is at colms execution (i get they were disguised as lawmen but sadie literally blew their cover so) and third time during the final heist for the army train plus the cannon sister mission where arthur goes back again whilst being arguably the second most wanted in the group after hosea was killed

[obtuse trellis]

they killed the whole town

whats so riskey

charles and javier or someone like that couldve went

[midnight ocean]

well they kinda do like i said

also keep in mind a lot of what dutch has the gang do at this point is driven by pride and ego