#👑business-empire

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indigo frigate
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put in a ticket for the gift box issue then. might be a new bug.

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maybe I'm getting your giftboxes, I seem to be getting more overall but fewer with gems than before.

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I got 176 sats now and it's allowing 174 to be cashed out, going to watch a few ads and see if it goes up more before cashing out.

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looks like the 174 is all it will give me today.

lunar pine
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That giftbox thing i have from time to time. Just reinvest in prestige and they will be back after some time

wind mason
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One day we will understand how this works 😅😅

raven marsh
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i think 190 because you cant wd the day before

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145 seems the current max for older players

wind mason
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🤔 maybe you are right.... because of the bug, i did not withdraw the day before......

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but im not an older player 😅

gritty spindle
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I'm old so I should get big withdraw. 😄

floral idolBOT
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Wow, check out @gritty spindle leveling up! Congratulations @gritty spindle, you are now Level 6!

indigo frigate
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In this case by older player we simply mean people who have been playing the game longer not older by actual age.

west osprey
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How long this game been out juat installed on my android the other day

indigo frigate
west osprey
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Have a tips and tricks thread yet? Or you working it?

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Appreciate yall these games helped me stack btc weekly

indigo frigate
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No there isn't a tips and tricks thread.

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It really depends on if you want to invest a small amount or spend nothing. as to how to go about starting on this game.

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If you are willing to put just $12 in get 3 of the 650 gem packs in the shop. Use those to buy a 12x income multiplier, the auto tapper and then use the rest to upgrade the gift boxes in the ME section. That will give you a huge bumb to start building up sats and gems to continue growing in the game.

indigo frigate
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Any goood news today or are we all still getting piddly cashout amounts?

inland arch
indigo frigate
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I'm at 142 sats now about to see if I can get more than that 145 today

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145 and it is still going up

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I got to 146 sats and the withdrawal is at 145 now

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let it run until I get a room upgrade or managers task and see if the limit goes up any or cashout there.

gritty spindle
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I dunno what my max is. I just keep withdrawing when it says I can. Should let it sit for a day see what it builds up to.

indigo frigate
raven marsh
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so each prestige on max increases the tap amount by 10KK

lunar pine
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I think i found a helpful tip: someone told me it isnt necessary to upgrade the lower managers. Well when i get a „manager income“ task, i upgrade 1 to 25 and the manager below to 1. after that it will finish pretty fast and u can continue the task until u reach the last manager in the list

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Yes its slower for prestige but hey…

west osprey
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Currently at 100 stats for withdrawal but have task bounce from 8 to 5 stats per task

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How do we gain investors

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Currently at 1

raven marsh
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you get them when you have higher managers as it depends on income

inland pumice
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I don’t know why everyone is having trouble getting sats, I have nearly 3500 that I can’t cash out.

Yesterday I cashed out 119 but earned about 3X that amount.

Today so far I’ve cashed out 141, but again earned way more than that 🤷🏻‍♂️

indigo frigate
inland pumice
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I get the 5 & 8’s. I watch as many commercials as I can and the sats just keep piling up 😔

raven marsh
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we get 1 per task and cant cash them out equally

indigo frigate
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They should be putting the new cashout limits in place soon. We have been told to expect between 700 and 800 depending on the metrics .

inland pumice
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That would be great. I have no problem watching commercials, if we don’t, the game dies. But it’s so unbalanced it’s a bit frustrating.

I thought I wasn’t doing something right for a while 😂

indigo frigate
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The game is still an early release and big changes have and are going to take place for at least the first year.

raven marsh
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hm last message about it was from 1.5 that they got scared that they test not enough..

indigo frigate
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wongull has talked about it since then just not in here.

lunar pine
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I make 1 sat per task and could cashout 198 sats right now if i want to. I try keep them until they tell me the limit

inland pumice
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I was thinking the limit was based on commercial watching. But maybe there is a daily limit as well.

Pretty sure I’ve hit it without realizing it due to my Scrooge McDuck like pile I’m sitting on 😂

indigo frigate
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The longer you go between cashouts the more it will go up but once you cashout and it goes back to 0, it doesn't go as high as fast.

inland pumice
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🤔

lunar pine
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I did cashout once 360 and after that since weeks nothing.
Lets see how high i can go

indigo frigate
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most of us stall out between 145 and 150 each day.

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unless we go without cashing out but play to increase the amount.

inland pumice
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That’s the numbers I was seeing when I was paying attention

lunar pine
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For me its impossible to make 145 per day yet😂

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Today i made around 70 - in 8 hours fulltime attention

indigo frigate
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I get 1 sat a task and have no problem getting 150 a day in just an hour and a half maybe 2 hours if I'm not paying attention to the game.

lunar pine
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Yeah bit your prestige is enormous

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Mine has just 250 something

indigo frigate
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how long have you been playing?

indigo frigate
lunar pine
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All in all around 3 weeks. But 1 week i didnt olay bc i was in egypt. A country zbd doesnt support

indigo frigate
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when you sell and start the new room what do you do for your managers?

indigo frigate
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ok the manager that starts at 23k is where I start buying them, then from that one down I hire 50 as soon as I can. Then as I get an upgrade managers task I do all 5 managers (add 10 to them) not just one of them. that will increase your inverstor drastically as well as your income.

lunar pine
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I usually do 25 until the last one and after that i upgrade them afain to 50

indigo frigate
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I actually start them at 100 now but 50 would be good for you or even the 25 but do the 5 most expensive ones

lunar pine
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Bc my tap income at the start is just ~1k

indigo frigate
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have you gotten a 12x income multiplier yet?

tropic token
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I start with the last manager and upgrade to 1000 right at the start....lol

lunar pine
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No i have my first autotap and 1.6 times nodes income

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After i max the nodes i max the autotap abd after that i will save for the x12

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Is a lot of ads until i get there lol

indigo frigate
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you need income multiplier though to help hire the managers and do the room upgrades then you can get the gift boxes after that.

lunar pine
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I get giftboxes all the time

indigo frigate
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I've cashed out over 16k sats

lunar pine
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Well i think after a couple months i will have the same lol

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The start is kinda hard but already easier now

indigo frigate
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you are not going to make that in a couple of months when it took me 5 months to do it.

lunar pine
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How did u start then?

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First the multiplier and then?

indigo frigate
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I spent $12 to get the 12x income, the auto tapper, and spent the rest on gift box upgrades to start the game.

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$12 got 3 of the 650 gem packs in the shop

lunar pine
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And it took u 5 months to cashback that yes?

indigo frigate
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I used money I made from Idle and Miiner to pay for it.

lunar pine
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Well i invest my income in bft mining instead 😉

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Nft*

indigo frigate
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I'm not saying you have to buy the gems but you need the items I said to start growing faster.

lunar pine
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yes we talked about it yesterday 😉

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Step by step…im gettin there soon

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As for miner i have 18H - it takes me 2 minutes to reach the last lvl in the last island 😉

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Tried idle but dont like it

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That spaceship game they deleted - that was my favourite

indigo frigate
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I don't have to watch ads for anything but the gift boxes and the forced ads because mu income grew enough with the one 12x income boot that is wasn't worth watching all those ads and wasting time on them.

indigo frigate
lunar pine
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No i mean there was a game with a spaceship

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Forgot the name

indigo frigate
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oh Spacey

lunar pine
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Yes exactly

indigo frigate
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I never seen it but heard of ir.

lunar pine
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It was so so cool and easy to farm sats

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Up to 500 per day until they stopped it

ebon shadow
lunar pine
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Thats why im not oaying for anything again

indigo frigate
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Miner takes me about 30 minute to get row 60 to level 25 and 59 to level 50.

lunar pine
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Paying*

lunar pine
indigo frigate
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how long you been playing and what are your GPU's?

lunar pine
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In that game they have a permament no-ad which i biught back then

lunar pine
indigo frigate
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it is still there for new player to get

lunar pine
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Thats why im sad in idle and empire its only weekly

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If they are permament i‘d buy for sure

indigo frigate
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they lose money with the perm no ads though

tropic token
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I think they should make it no forced ads, still watch ads to activate bonues

lunar pine
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Do u really think everyone is as passionate as u and me?

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Not many play the fame for so many months that they actually loose money

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When i started miner i could withdraw 1000, then 500 and now only 250….so

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And that inna country with highest daily limits beside switzerland (they have 330)

indigo frigate
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I'm in the US and its 330

lunar pine
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Not everywhere 😉

indigo frigate
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in the US it is

lunar pine
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In every of the 50 states?

indigo frigate
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No New York can't earn sats

tropic token
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  1. No New York
lunar pine
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Wow. They added a lot over there

tropic token
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That will likely never change though

indigo frigate
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They had to wait for the state laws to add them

lunar pine
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Wasnt it 100 in some places or in poorer countries like indonesia it was even only 10

indigo frigate
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Malta is only 1

lunar pine
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And europe is banned from rainsats too now tho

tropic token
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Yeah

indigo frigate
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Thats laws though not Fumb or ZBD

lunar pine
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U see….i dont think they loose money trough perma no-ad

indigo frigate
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if more people had no ads the ad revenue would drop so yes they lose money on it

lunar pine
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1 not everyone buys it and still watch ads and
2 it takes months to make 15000 sats income

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Also many buy additional stuff - just like you did 🙂

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But yes…if thats my company i would do the same

indigo frigate
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it wakes about a month in miner and Idle for me with the 330 limit. I made one time purchases not evey week.

lunar pine
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Well if u play hardcore u make around 9900 per month

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Per game

indigo frigate
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I make almost 1000 every 3 days in miner and Idle

lunar pine
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But tell me….i think the majority dont have the time everyday for that 🙂

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Compared to that i make around 300 per day. 250 miner and 50 lets say in empire

indigo frigate
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It takes my less than 2 hours a game to get my limit, once I got built up in the games.

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I get about 145-150 a day in Empire right now.

lunar pine
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Happy for u 😉

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Im happy with mine already as well

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It feeds my stepson in indonesia where a kids full meal is around 500k

indigo frigate
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I can collect a lot more the limit capping out on us is why i don't make more in Empire each day.

tropic token
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500k sats?

lunar pine
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Yes 50 cent full meal with rice and eggs

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Sometimes with chicken

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Streetfood

ebon shadow
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Great food

lunar pine
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Is called nasi jinggo

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500 sats - not 500k 🙈😂

tropic token
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I was going to say that your conversion is way off or you typo'd

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I never had indonesian food. Need to try it some day.

lunar pine
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Its healthier than u think 😉

tropic token
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Im sure. Compared to all the chemicals and stuff they add here im sure its healthier

lunar pine
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Not the one from supermarkets or export restaurants.
Directly at the source. They cook it in front of your eyes

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Thats why when fumb lowerd from 500 to 250 - that made us a bit sad hehe

tropic token
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Half the stuff in our food here isnt legal anywhere else LOL

lunar pine
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Bit its still worth something

indigo frigate
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well I'm getting to start early on Empire today.

lunar pine
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Example: they put amphetamines in painkillers. Crazy effective lol

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But back to payout topic

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When u reached your zbd limit - u still can payout to speed as well?

indigo frigate
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Who reaches their zbd limit?

lunar pine
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145 per day u said???

indigo frigate
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No only one cashout a day

lunar pine
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Oh

indigo frigate
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I also don't have speedwallet

lunar pine
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And both same limit?

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Oh ok

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Gotta try that over here then

indigo frigate
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I thought you meant the max we can keep in our zbd accounts.

lunar pine
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Nah lol

indigo frigate
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you can only cashout of the game once a day no matter how many wallet options you have.

lunar pine
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Must be hundrets of thousands since sone zbd games give u 40k oer task

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If there is a limit at all

indigo frigate
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I think for average players it is 1 million sats is the max you can have in your zbd wallet

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there are exceptions to that but I don't know what all goes into it.

lunar pine
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Well who does that🙈😂

indigo frigate
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he is typing now

tropic token
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In ZBD go to settings, Wallet, Wallet Limits, and you can check it.

lunar pine
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Is better u put it somewhere to stake and reinvest it even more automatically imo

tropic token
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Yeah, not everyone is 1 Million. Im at 5 Million max but I dont keep ANYWHERE near that amount. LOL

lunar pine
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Oh its 1 mio here too

indigo frigate
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I move mine every week to my cashapp

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I think the most I've ever had in it was 25k

tropic token
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When I actually withdraw I send most to CashApp

lunar pine
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Yep always move it monday morning to light up my mood omw to work

indigo frigate
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I have 130k on my cashapp right now.

lunar pine
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I dont wanna share how much i have and where i move it

indigo frigate
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sats not dollars

lunar pine
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Easy to hack if no 2fa

raven marsh
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good evening

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with my kids it is like treasure hunting... find the missing powerbank

indigo frigate
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hows your day @raven marsh

raven marsh
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now better. work was just stupid today but now is the work finished and i can "focus" on finishing the games. kids are also back in place. already had dinner so now just relaxing

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hope for you it is also good for now

lunar pine
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My mood is good knowing the „eisheiligen“ weekend is cold and rainy. Makes the icewine season perfectly smooth tasty this year hehe

indigo frigate
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trying to figure out what I want for lunch today.

raven marsh
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ah lol nearly missed that tomorrow is public holiday

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with home office you missed it that often

lunar pine
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Thank god bc in our city is the songcontest in front of my office they have public viewing…sooooo many tourists 🙄🙈

raven marsh
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no one needs that to be honest

lunar pine
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Tourists or offices😂😂😂

raven marsh
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would tradeoff tourists for the "long time visitors"

tropic token
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I need to eat soon as well. Wife just got home so I will let her figure it out. LOL

lunar pine
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Tell her u want indonesian food hahaha

indigo frigate
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I live a lone so it is me or nobody.

tropic token
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Well, I jsut got told were taking a nap and eating when we get up. LOL

raven marsh
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okay so you need breakfast tomorrow ^

lunar pine
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They call that „taking a nap“ nowadays

tropic token
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Nah, noon here.

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So will be a late lunch I guess.

raven marsh
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phew can't motivate me to finish the idle event

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just on lvl11..

indigo frigate
lunar pine
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The one with the tractor?

raven marsh
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cave grind yes :p

indigo frigate
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yes cavern event

lunar pine
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John deere event

raven marsh
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even my kid was like "nah dad not today"

indigo frigate
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no it's yellow not green

lunar pine
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Or in our case: 15er steyr😂

indigo frigate
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it's a Cat

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12 gift boxes to my next crit tap upgrade.

raven marsh
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978/1200 gems. will check if it makes a difference for me with x12 more

indigo frigate
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I got a 12x the other day.

raven marsh
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how much in total did you have now?

indigo frigate
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my multiplier is at 49 now

raven marsh
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you have too much gems ;D

indigo frigate
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1.14k

raven marsh
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as i said. too much

indigo frigate
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next crit tap is 1.25

raven marsh
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i have to compare what makes more sense currently

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just at x13 income

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but based on the managers maxed out

indigo frigate
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I don't max out the managers like you do.

raven marsh
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we will see if it makes a difference

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prestige does nothing for us at all currently

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manager "infinity cap" for reginald is still at 4400

lunar pine
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I dont even need to do reginald above lvl 25 to max out my room

raven marsh
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or each tap increase by 10KK

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makes also no sense at all. as that what took longer are the regular earning things

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or earn from tapping

cursive jewel
indigo frigate
raven marsh
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but i would avoid to get high prestige and managers

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also not sure when you start to get investors again. if its based on your current money

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(which is kinda special with money cap)

cursive jewel
# indigo frigate how do you come up with that?

Check your "Total Money Earned" amount in Stats (which resets after prestige) at two separate instances. Input into Wolfram|Alpha: Solve (total money now/total money at previous check)^x = (investors to claim now/investors to claim at previous check), and it yields 0.4. The divisor of 500k is obtained by (investors^(1/0.4)) * x = Total Money Earned.

cursive jewel
floral idolBOT
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Wow, check out @cursive jewel leveling up! Congratulations @cursive jewel, you are now Level 2!

raven marsh
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I have to compare with other numbers 🙂

raven marsh
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@indigo frigate did you feel a decrease of the giftboxes?

indigo frigate
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No mine are about the same

raven marsh
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hmm or currently just more interrupted as before and based on that i missed the gem boxes or gift boxes in general

indigo frigate
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I think I'm getting fewer with gems in a row than before but the same amount for the amount of time playing.

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I get 4 or 5 then 3 or 4 without gems then more with gems where I use to get 10 or 12 in a row.

raven marsh
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then just more luck 🙂

indigo frigate
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got Crit taps to 27% now.

indigo frigate
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I've now cashed 17,170 sats out from this game.

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This 145 a day is getting old though.

raven marsh
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5619 cashed outh and 145 daily aswell

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crit taps at 20%

indigo frigate
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You didn't have the game for a long time though

raven marsh
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and working on x25

indigo frigate
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you are gaining ground on those but not much.

raven marsh
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just to check if i didnt need the manager at lvl 4400

indigo frigate
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I get mine to only like 250

raven marsh
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withouth that level i can't prestige

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so i must cap it

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maybe with addition x12 it needs less

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1,09k gems now

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this too also a while today

indigo frigate
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no you'll just get them there faster.

raven marsh
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*took

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you need that much coins that without upgrading you won't reach it before getting old 😄

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i think i need e+280 and final cap is at 1,80e+308

indigo frigate
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You're going to be the Butters of this game.

raven marsh
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:p

indigo frigate
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😝

raven marsh
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idle 44/50

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but just boring

indigo frigate
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I might go build some more sats up there but not sure.

raven marsh
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just do it in the hope that sometimes the wd limit changes and the sat earning method

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e+208 and still no investors. lets see when this changes

indigo frigate
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I don't even worry about them it's all about sats for me.

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well and gems for upgrades.

raven marsh
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daily limit done and spare

indigo frigate
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I got 10 towards tommorow on Empire and almost 2 days worth on Idle

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need 30 on Miner for tomorrows cashout.

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with 2 sells and rebuilds to go today.

raven marsh
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miner is insane from the time consume to fullfill the daily limit here

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with 1 sat every second row

indigo frigate
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well the new event F'd me over it what almost a days worth of sats and the new on is only 30

raven marsh
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i think last time i checked miner on my tablet i had error 312 but no mood to solve it

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especially as i had a opened ticket already

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e+218 still no investors. not much left

raven marsh
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e+233 still waiting

cursive jewel
# raven marsh e+233 still waiting

I'll do the math for you (the following numbers are rounded to three significant figures):

2^407 = 331JJ (first power of 2 after your current investor count).

53 powers of 2 earlier = 36.7EE

Since floating-point numbers round to the nearest representable number, you'll need to earn enough for 18.3EE, and then it'll show 36.7EE to claim.

(2^(407-54))^(1/0.4) * 500k = $2.28e+271 needed.

fossil zenith
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Error 30

indigo frigate
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!error30

keen gateBOT
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Error 30 occurs when the SATs in your game have become out of sync with the SATs on our server. Eventually, earning enough SATs will fix the syncing issue, but it will still be broken on the server side. To fix this so it stops reoccurring, you'll need to create a ticket.

Please make a ticket with us in the #🔍help-desk, https://fumb.support or reach out to us at help@fumb.support for a faster response - we can fix this! (the email in the ticket is overloaded, and is a much slower fix time)

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low saffron
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Guys, I had just an update Idk did you seen already or not, I just noticed, it’s give now 5-8 sats/task.

raven marsh
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with upgrade from income x13 to x25 you need reginald on lvl 4392 to reach infinity for him. prestige still capped at 10,5JJ but shows later an increase auf 11JJ

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max cap is still 4961

torpid inlet
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i make a 1500 sats withdrawal, and after the sats available to withdraw resets to 0. other games they keep the available withdrawal sats, but able o withdraw ever 24 hours. like this i never get to withdraw all my balance. now i have 4000 sats but only 45 available to withdraw.... keep playing to increase, but will never reach the actual balance

raven marsh
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you have two playstyles. one to gain sats -> solving tasks, second increase withdraw with watching the ads so if you need sats play normal and solve tasks where you can and do increase your wd watch those ads from the gift boxes and the forced ones but let the tasks as they are

torpid inlet
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the ads for speed and income also counts?

raven marsh
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as far as i know yes

torpid inlet
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okm thx

raven marsh
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sell cap is everytime now at around ~e+271 with a maximum of +10,5JJ per prestige

keen token
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Hi, im new on this game, i have a question.
How do we get gems on this one ? Because the only way i found was to put real money but i dont really want to do this.
Im on IOS if it helps to answer (maybe its a different game from Android to iOS idk)

raven marsh
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you have to watch ads

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there from time to time gift boxes with gems

keen token
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Never got an add that proposed gems 😕

keen token
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So its like on idle mine

raven marsh
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they are "rare" and you can upgrade the gift amount that you can get up to 10 gems per gift

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similar yes

raven marsh
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ah that manager upgrade button is annoying..

lunar pine
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Again the same bug with sats and withdraw button🙄

raven marsh
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which one exactly?

lunar pine
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Sats: 0. should be over 200

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Button not pressable

patent jetty
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Same here

raven marsh
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seems a general issue. had now the same

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earlier it was working

patent jetty
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I do tasks and don't get sats

indigo frigate
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try restarting your device and see if it fixes the issue, mine is working just as it should,

heady apex
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I am having problems of not getting credit for missions AND playing ads for 2× boosts. On Andriod

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Oh and what little stats I earn are disappearing again. I have the latest update which seems worse than before.

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BTW, restarted, twice.

ebon shadow
keen gateBOT
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Please go to #🔍help-desk, and choose what you need help with from the drop down menu.🙌

lunar pine
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308 sats cashed out. Thats all i made this week

inland pumice
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How is the 0.2.0 update working? I hate installing updates when they're fresh. I let others be the Guinea pigs 😉😂

raven marsh
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interesting. again no notification but update available

inland pumice
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Guess I'll bite the bullet. Its not like I'm paying my bills with this stuff. Just a little mad money 😉

raven marsh
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feels complete the same to be honest

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also still the problem with holding the manager buttons

inland pumice
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I have no idea on that issue. The only issue I have is earning more than I can withdraw.

raven marsh
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that has everyone ^

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currently 145 sats per day for me

inland pumice
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It varies for me. Last 3 daze was 125, 159, & 80

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The 80 I didn't play a whole lot

raven marsh
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i think the 159 was related to not fully withdrawing the first time

inland pumice
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Could be since it seems the numbers are top secret at this time 😂

raven marsh
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it is 145 per day, if you did not wd it you can wd on the next day more

inland pumice
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👍

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I'm up to 120 for today available to withdraw

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Earned about 300

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I keep forgetting to write down my starting balance just to see

raven marsh
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it is simple. you get sats for the tasks and wd limit or wd amount until hitting the cap is based on viewing ads

inland pumice
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I pretty much watch every ad it throws at me plus hitting both the 2X buttons whenever I can.

I started out today somewhere between 37 - 3800 balance. ATM I'm at 4097

lunar pine
#

Empire reviews for 500 sats? How will that be sent if in europe since rainsats not possible? @remote fractal

indigo frigate
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It seems my limit has stalled out at a new low of only 120 today.

remote fractal
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@lunar pine what kryten said ^^

lunar pine
#

I finally found out how to gain sats properly. 450 for today now total

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Still could go on but too tired for now

indigo frigate
lunar pine
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But well….i watched tons of ads too duribg the day

indigo frigate
indigo frigate
#

I cashed almost 1500 my first cashout and since then I've not gotten over 300.

patent jetty
#

What does the Critical Taps upgrade give?

raven marsh
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it does what is mentioned in the text it increase the chance of a critital tap. and the amount is affected by the crit amount. so each time you tap manual or with the auto tap from the store you have a chance that you have a critical hit with that amount of % you have

patent jetty
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Ok

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Thanks

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Should I upgrade offline earning?

floral idolBOT
#

Wow, check out @patent jetty leveling up! Congratulations @patent jetty, you are now Level 6!

raven marsh
#

makes no sense at all to be honest

patent jetty
#

👍

raven marsh
reef atlas
#

is 10 gems the max u can get from gifts?

raven marsh
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yep

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for that you need the x 1.9 upgrade

keen token
#

Any tips for when I make my first « rebirth »

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Like for now if I restart i earn 2 coins, which is +36% on earnings, but is it recommanded to go higher for the first Sell ? Or 2 coins is good enough ?

rapid wadi
#

Any boost is a good boost that early on

keen token
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Okkk thanks

raven marsh
#

hm again a change in the earning? first it start at 30 sat when you play now it started at 2 sats

raven marsh
#

is there btw a cap for investors aswell?

indigo frigate
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Mine starts at 0 for like a few minutes then goes up.

raven marsh
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okay then it changes. currently building up and again at 80 sats for wd

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yesterday it capped at 120 sats

cursive jewel
# raven marsh is there btw a cap for investors aswell?

After 9.3e+136 investors, you won't be able to prestige anymore because 10.5JJ per session will be outside the game's floating-point limitations, but that's so far off that it's unreachable within a human lifetime. No need to worry.

indigo frigate
cursive jewel
indigo frigate
#

Well let's see if we can get more than that pitiful 120 for today.

raven marsh
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114 currently so will see it soon

indigo frigate
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I need 300 gems to upgrade the Crit Tap to 28%.

raven marsh
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i play less and less to be honest as the daily wd gets also less and less

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again at 120 now

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instead of an increase its currently a steady decrease

indigo frigate
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Yes and I'm getting fed up with the we are testing this and that but when players ask for something it doesn't change and they add things noone ask for or they complain about in other games.

raven marsh
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i still stuck with the manager thing as an example i must upgrade it above 4k but you cant rly hold the button as it often stucks after a couple upgrades

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on the other side it feels like on idle that you progress more but in general it is not needed to "progress" as you can reach the daily limit with ease

indigo frigate
#

The devs need to play the games for a few weeks so they have a clue what players are talking about and how it effects how the games are played .

raven marsh
#

also no idea how long the pets are now teasered and there is also no eta when they are in the game

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or have players in direct contact who play a lot and can give feedback

low saffron
#

Guys,
I try to figure it out what is the daily bonus mean..
I mean, 2 days ago I been able to withdraw twice 1,200 sats, in the same day earned and take it out.
Yesterday I been able only 60 what I withdraw straight away, but after it’s started from Zero and right now I’m able to take out about 140 sats.
Looks like every 3-4 completed task charge on 2 extra sats to be able.
But what is the daily bonus mean, I can’t see what is the bonus when in 2 following days time charge me the same ammount of sats to be withdrawing.. 🤔

indigo frigate
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Nobody knows the real limits right now as we are not all on the same version. From what I understand no one is on the new buffed payout system either.

low saffron
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I see,
Fair enough.. xd

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I’m on version 0.2.0 iOS

indigo frigate
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I'm on 0.1.9 on android

low saffron
#

Ahh, then it’s really not that simple to find out.

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I’m literally skipped the previous 2 update, just came back to the game with this update.

indigo frigate
#

Then you also have to figure in if the amounts are like the other games and limits are different by country as well.

low saffron
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Yes, actually this good to know..

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Im in the uk

raven marsh
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0.2.0 on android

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funny thing is the text "we've got a new update for you with a load of improvements. we've got visual improvements, balance improvments and the groundwork is beeing set for future updates"

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the game feels absolute the same

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and nothing changes for me

indigo frigate
#

I will look and see if I have an update after todays s limit stops on me but I haven't had an update ready for me in a few weeks now.

low saffron
#

Mean anything, if I use a different country based apple account?

low saffron
raven marsh
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yeah they get less 😄

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also still 1 sat per task

low saffron
raven marsh
#

new player or old player

floral idolBOT
#

Wow, check out @raven marsh leveling up! Congratulations @raven marsh, you are now Level 33!

indigo frigate
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He isn't a new player

raven marsh
#

then again some of the "test group".

low saffron
low saffron
raven marsh
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with a game reset or just with the high numbers?

low saffron
#

Now, I just can’t see what is the matter earning quiet good ammount if can’t withdraw…
From yesterday earned about 2700 but only able take out 140…
And looks like this daily bonus thing isn’t work, so idk..

raven marsh
#

daily bonus? ^

low saffron
raven marsh
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ah that one. the message is there for ages but also doenst work

#

also it does not increase (the limit)

low saffron
# raven marsh with a game reset or just with the high numbers?

Well was strange, because after the fix I had a very wierd gameplay for 2-3 minutes.
At the same time show me infinity earning and the numbers of earning and still give me that point 1 sats/task, but I’m earned in one minutes 67 sats what was crazy 😆
After I noticed that I’m able to prestige then I did and after started from zero, but furtunetly still all my upgrades, but the sat earnings set back to normal.

raven marsh
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okay i have "only" the absurd coin amount and prestige level that i need the manager on lvl4400 to prestige

low saffron
indigo frigate
#

I wish it would show how many you can cash when it is as many as you have or even more.

raven marsh
#

that message is also misleading

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"you can increase it by playing more and returning to the game daily"

indigo frigate
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yeah I did the next task and it now shows 120 and I'm at 128

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Sure isn't going up.

low saffron
indigo frigate
#

After my first cashout when it started dropping my limit I slowly worked it down to 0 and since I only got 20 or so past the stallout amount and cashout for the day.

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Ok got my 120 now I can go back to Idle and build the bank up there.

west osprey
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Yeah thinking of juat grinding till 150 then cashout on this game at least the others I have like 10k stats in btc miner and 15k in idle miner

#

How do you gain investors

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??

raven marsh
#

earning enough coins, but when you finish the regular task you should have enough to prestige

patent jetty
#

It's annoying that we have to watch a lot of ads for gems to upgrade things in the game. I've reached the point where I have to watch over 100 ads a day.

raven marsh
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every ad grants you normally 2 sats so it should be 60 ads

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i mean still a lot but a lot less then the over 100

patent jetty
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Ok

raven marsh
#

upgrading the managers on a higher level is more painful to be honest

patent jetty
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I'm upgrading to 250.

raven marsh
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i wish it would be that low for me

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i need 4383 🙂

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and every 2-3 prestige it decrease per 1

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main problem is that the upgrade button is bugged and stops upgrading too often

patent jetty
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Wow

raven marsh
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you hold the upgrade button and as soon as you move the finger it stops

low saffron
#

Just can’t see the point 😅

raven marsh
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you need to have more coins then before

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to prestige

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and as i have capped coins

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i need to cap again 🙂

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that happens after you prestige

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i counts from cap downwards to LL and then again it counts upwards

copper maple
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I complete the tasks and get nothing

raven marsh
#

did you link your game to zbd first? as for completing tasks you get the sats and for watching ads you can withdraw them up to a certain amount

copper maple
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Not yet and how to link it

raven marsh
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when you click on the sats symbol it should prompt you to link to your zbd wallet

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without that you won't earn any sats

copper maple
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Nothing happens

sacred hare
#

Probably internet issues

ebon shadow
keen gateBOT
#

Please try closing the game, changing from wifi to mobile data (or vice versa), and then reopening the game again. If that doesn't work repeat the steps but with airplane mode instead of swapping the connection.

floral idolBOT
#

Wow, check out @copper maple leveling up! Congratulations @copper maple, you are now Level 1!

raven marsh
#

also what is now shown when you click on the sats icon?

ebon shadow
copper maple
ebon shadow
raven marsh
#

what game version is it and did you try to restart your phone?

copper maple
raven marsh
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maybe try to clear the cache and/or reinstall the app as the sat icon should lead you to link to zbd

copper maple
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Tried that also didn't work

indigo frigate
copper maple
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I think almost over 1 month

indigo frigate
copper maple
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Ok thx bro for helping I'll make a ticket

indigo frigate
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looks like I finally got the update to 2.0

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I got to do my daily build up and collection of sats on Idle before I see if I got the good version of it or not though.

patent jetty
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There is a problem in the game, doing tasks and not receiving sats

indigo frigate
patent jetty
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👍

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Also unable to connect zbd to the game

indigo frigate
#

is it giving you an error message or just not connecting?

#

are you gettin the same messge for Blocks of Bitcoin?

patent jetty
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Does not give an error message. The wallet connection button is not clickable.

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In both games

indigo frigate
#

blue box lewer left of the screen on zbd?

patent jetty
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It worked out, thank you.

indigo frigate
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Crit Tap to 28%

patent jetty
#

Does anyone know What is the maximum that Critical Taps can be upgraded to?

raven marsh
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45%

patent jetty
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👍

inland pumice
#

So the daily withdrawal limit is now 120? Seems to stall out there since I updated a few days ago.

indigo frigate
inland pumice
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So it resets at a certain time of day or 24hrs after you withdraw or?

indigo frigate
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No one knows if it is just a few hours or what but it isn't a certain time like 24 hours that we have found.

wind mason
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A maximum of 120 sats per day... having to play for 1h30 or more to earn them. My disappointment is growing.

raven marsh
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not sure how it is on a newer version but with the old earning it is a long time yes

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especially as progress doesnt rly speedup the process

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<@&384453946845954049> pls delete thx

rapid wadi
#

Gone

delicate garden
#

Anyone else having an endless „Loading…“ screen and a rotating circle after clicking on the SATs to withdraw?

indigo frigate
keen gateBOT
#

Please try closing the game, changing from wifi to mobile data (or vice versa), and then reopening the game again. If that doesn't work repeat the steps but with airplane mode instead of swapping the connection.

delicate garden
indigo frigate
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Check zbd and see if it is working or not.

delicate garden
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Not connected to zbd, it is my first withdrawal attempt and want to connect to speed

indigo frigate
raven marsh
#

btw any news related to that "sat amount testing"?

indigo frigate
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nope

raven marsh
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not good

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so now playtime also reduced to the minimum (which is still a lot for that 120 sats)

indigo frigate
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just another reason I'm thinking about getting a 2nd tablet.

raven marsh
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2 tablets and a spare phone here

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idle mine has enough reserved sats that i can frequently wd without an issue

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so now empire and btc miner active

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but empire only until wd limit as that manager upgrade bug is annoying as hell

indigo frigate
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I have other games on my phone with Miner Idle and Empire on the tablet now.

raven marsh
#

play time is with that games enough to be honest

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next to regular work

indigo frigate
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with another tablet I can rin miner 24/7 and do events without causing me to miss time and sats on the other games.

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I could still do the ames on my phone like I do now while Empire is going.

raven marsh
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just got back into miner after 3/4 year or so. just hed to check again how that all works to be honest

indigo frigate
#

These games are more fun than the ones on my phone but the ones on my phone have better payout rates.

raven marsh
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the ones you mean have absolute worse payments here that is why i stopped using them

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even with a theoretical higher wd limit per day

indigo frigate
#

Even if Empire had the 330 limit as the others have for the US and was reachable in the time it takes now it would be much better.

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but 120 for the time is not good.

raven marsh
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they have just more "game flow" to be honest

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yep 1 1/2-2 hours isn't good for that

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especially with that amount of ads in relation

indigo frigate
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Well with it running on the side while I play another game on my phone makes the ads not so bad for me.

raven marsh
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that is okay yes. currently im surprised how many active time you need for the piggy event on miner

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feeled in the past not that long

indigo frigate
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I do it like I do Empire

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let it refill the pickaxes while I play another game on the phone.

indigo frigate
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Ok I have 30 minutes before sell and rebuild time on miner so lets so how much I can get done here in that time.

raven marsh
#

whoever did the sat adjustments in the last time it is absolute the wrong direction

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1 1/2 hours now to get to 68 sats to withdraw.. that is WAY too long

raven marsh
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2 hours 10 minutes for now and 98 sats... time for a break

wind mason
raven marsh
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and i think it took longer then before

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so 11:05 start again after a break with 100 sats. lets see how long i need for the 20 sats

buoyant willow
raven marsh
#

so 11:35 so half an hour for that last 20 sats

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so 2 hours and 40 minutes for that 120 sats

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makes no sense to me

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and to progress more makes it just way more difficult

raven marsh
#

@remote fractal is that with the upgrade button for the manager a known issue or should i create a bug report? as it is nearly impossible to upgrade managers to level 4400 with that sensitive upgrade button. as soon as you move your finger even a milimeter or less it stops upgrading

remote fractal
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worth making a bug report!

raven marsh
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got it

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and created

indigo frigate
#

<@&384453946845954049>

cursive jewel
# raven marsh makes no sense to me

Yeah, I think it used to be 145 (25 per day + 2 per minute up to an hour the game is open). That 25 has been removed.

I think there should be no limit on the withdrawal amount, but the amount of Sats earned per mission should decrease the more are completed in a day.

dull bane
#

i miss the 25 per day cause that's how i was chewing through a large amount of sats i had piled up

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you can earn them so fast

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and the ads make it so i can't just leave the phone open while i do something else

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i wish there was more active gameplay i guess, something for me to do while i wait for the withdraw amount to go up

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cause rn it's just checking my phone for gift boxes and tapping through ads

raven marsh
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that is what it is. mission solving for earning, and ad viewing for withdrawal

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but to be honest as the ads have a fixed rate and if its from zbd ad network it is normally directly paid they could remove the limit and let the user watch ads etc as long as they want

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as they would get the normal revenue aswell

dull bane
#

right i like the missions, but you earn faster that you can withdraw... so unless they balance that, you'll have a lot of doing nothing game-wise to actually get your sats. i don't mind the ads but when there's nothing productive i can do in the game and the game has to be open.. it doesn't feel good

raven marsh
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i mean the balance is okay as you could select if you wanna do missions or top up the wd limit

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my sats earn rate per task is 1 sat which is enough

dull bane
#

mine are 5-8 sats

raven marsh
#

that is way too much in relation

dull bane
#

yeah!

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"upgrade room 0/2" gives me 8 sats

raven marsh
#

lets say 1 sat per mission, and grant 1 sat per ad and done

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so solve 1 task for the sat credit and watch an ad to WD it

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and remove the wd max limit

dull bane
#

i've had the game open ~20 minutes and it says i can withdraw 28 sats so far and i have 184 sitting. i've barely been able to play the game for a while cause i got up to like 300 sats and was earning wayyy too fast

raven marsh
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i need around 2 1/2 hours of ad time to wd the sats what is way too much

indigo frigate
#

I have 18 sats and can cash 16 right now.

dull bane
#

I just wanna get my balance back to 0 so i can like do a mission or two, hang out for an hour, withdraw, then play a different game?

raven marsh
#

before you've started with 30 sats and then it was counting upwards now it starts at 0 and took double the time then normal

#

the thing is that you need "watch time" or watch count that you can wd

indigo frigate
#

I will be glad when the game is established and they get decent amounts set for earning and cashouts.

dull bane
#

yeah and just getting watch time while avoiding doing missions is boring when you need to do this much of it. The EarnHub can trap you with SO many sats

indigo frigate
#

Why I play anothe game on my phone while this is on the tablet running.

dull bane
#

yeah well all of the fumb games are on my phone ;-;

raven marsh
#

had the balance: one day i had do missions for the sats itself

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and next just watching ads

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but even with 1 sat per task i have more then enough sats sitting around

indigo frigate
#

I have solitaire, blocks and 3 non Fumb games on my phone and Miner Idle and Empire on the tablet.

dull bane
#

i would honestly duel run idle mine and empire if i had to pick 2 fumb games

raven marsh
#

empire on the phone, miner and idle on one sepate tablet

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but idle has a big pile to wd so i mostly just play the events currently

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and on empire it is like playing until wd limit is reached

dull bane
#

been messing with other apps and rewards things, just testing the waters and i really like the fumb games cause they are consistent and there's not an earning deadline and the ads are minimally intrusive. i really like them

raven marsh
#

only real active one is now btc miner

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i play only the fumb games as the other ones don't rly work in europe

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and the "company" doesnt care about it

dull bane
#

oooo yeah europe would make things difficult

raven marsh
#

like 1/10 of the rewards etc or non working rewards

dull bane
#

I'm in the US so i guess prime territory for all the other random things

raven marsh
#

then you have more then enough options and if they would work here like that i had also minimum 3 games more to play with 500 sats each day

dull bane
#

yeah the 500 sats per day ones are neat

#

not my fav tho

#

well i managed to get to 38 sats on empire, but now my adhd won't let me stick with it right now... off to other apps

cursive jewel
floral idolBOT
#

Wow, check out @cursive jewel leveling up! Congratulations @cursive jewel, you are now Level 3!

dull bane
#

yeah i tried a couple times, not easy to replicate I think

cursive jewel
low saffron
#

I’ll back to the game when I can withdraw what I do earn…
Total pointless making 13 sats/2 tasks, if my withdrawal limit is charging with 2 sats/4 tasks…
24 sats just doing for nobody, or do for somebody else whos take from us when them shut down the app..? 🥴
Atm soo far from “trustable” the app…

#

Minimum should be able to withdrawing the total earnings, if somebody pay for the max subscribe/week!

#

Rip off…

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Making dollar’s and receiving not even cent’s after watching thousands of adds. 👎

indigo frigate
#

Anyone else have al their stats reset but gems, sats andstuff are normal?

#

nevermind closed the game and reopened it and it's back how it should be.

fallow mountain
#

Was gonna ask if you had finally broken the game 😹

indigo frigate
#

Multiplier was right but all my gift box and crit upgrades where at 0.

#

Managers were also all rest to odd levels from when I stopped yesterday.

fallow mountain
#

That is weird

raven marsh
#

had this just one time with sats at 0 but after a restart it was back to normal

indigo frigate
#

My sats and gems were what they were when I stopped yesterday though.

inland arch
west osprey
#

Whats the stats withdrawal limiy

#

One day I with 180 and then today can only withdraw 60

#

Play till 200 or stats then withdrawal

indigo frigate
floral idolBOT
#

Wow, check out @west osprey leveling up! Congratulations @west osprey, you are now Level 12!

indigo frigate
# west osprey Damn okay

They are testing a bunch of new stuff with the game and that is messing with the cashout system.

west osprey
#

Understanding

indigo frigate
#

New players get 5 to 8 sats per task and older players only get one and noone get the same cashout amounts for ads watched or time playing.

west osprey
#

Copy

cursive jewel
raven marsh
#

would be nice if it was that fast to be honest. i need like more then 2 hours for the 120 sats

#

starting now at a balance of 0 to wd

raven marsh
#

25 minutes 18 sats here while active playing

raven marsh
#

it feels more and more that is slows down.

raven marsh
#

with that current "withdraw increase curve" it doesn't make fun at all

raven marsh
#

without fully focusing on currently since 09;20 on it and just at 76 sats

#

*on it

raven marsh
#

finished the 120 sats

#

but the time needed is insane

low saffron
#

Idk maybe because the reset from infinity

#

But there is nothing systematich about the limits or anything…
Been able withdrawing 2x1200 sats in the same day and for the following day, so 6 hours later the second 1200 sats only able for 60 sats… and now I have about 4000 sats in the game and isn’t matter how much I do play I never will have a chance to withdraw because never will reach the limit my ammount….

indigo frigate
raven marsh
#

for me and several other the limit stays at 120 and it gets harder and harder to reach the wd threeshold, the earning is easy but you can't cashout the amount

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and the limit increases per 2 to wd after some ads

low saffron
#

Not even understand because they are saying the limit is about the current bitcoin price and also region and also the adverts…
Well after I had watch about 2000 adds in the UK when the bitcoin price isn’t changed anywhere that point my limit is dropped down from unlimited to 2 sats/4 task

raven marsh
#

the tasks are only for the earning itself but does not affect the wd limit

#

the wd limit is only changed when you watch ads from my testing

low saffron
#

Also they are saying the adverts increase your limit, this is Not true!
If i do watching an add after my limit not even changed.

raven marsh
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i think "limit" is wrong spelled. the limit stays the same but the amount you can wd is affected by watching ads

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so you start by 0 per day and with watching ads it increases per 2

low saffron
#

My limit inly changing if i complete 4 task then growing 2 sats

raven marsh
#

so when you have balance and just watch ads you can wd from your balance

#

okay that is interesting then is this again another "earn model"

low saffron
#

4 completed tasks usually give me 26 sats. But only incrase my limit with 2 sats, so I do 24 sats for nobody!

#

And also watching adds isn’t matter, no change.

raven marsh
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strange

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for me only the ads changes but for that it took now over 2 1/2 hours for the 120 sats

low saffron
#

And have a look

raven marsh
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doesn't change i get also only 1 sat per task

low saffron
#

Because I really start to think this whole thing just make us fool

raven marsh
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as i am in another "earn group"

low saffron
raven marsh
#

limit is only affected from the ads

low saffron
#

For withdrawing

raven marsh
#

tested it alreadyx

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*already

low saffron
#

Unbelivable…

#

I mean what is the reason all of the users not even matter where from they are the gameplay is total different player by player??

#

And there is never a clear explanation just

#

Bs

raven marsh
#

they test things out but as you said no one exactly know it

low saffron
#

So how even is legal?

raven marsh
#

same with the wd methods. i use speed wallet as an example and not zbd

low saffron
#

Misleading information also everywhere

#

I have both wallet

#

I could understand testing, but the tests always happen on test servers!
And this app is say “beta” but it’s not the test server….

tepid flower
#

Hey y'all, I have a banked balance of over 4,000 Satoshi coins, but I can only withdraw 120 per day, but the banked balance I can't withdraw from at all?

raven marsh
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correct, that is the current state

remote fractal
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Hey hey, has anyone played the Business Empire event? Wondering what thoughts are on it, if you have.

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also, if you haven't, have you noticed it? or is it not in your game?

raven marsh
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erm event?

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i think again "only for test users" ^^

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i receive only "nerfs" to be honest

indigo frigate
raven marsh
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Jaaaaanee 😄 did you have an event on business empire?

tropic token
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I have nothing either.

indigo frigate
remote fractal
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i was told it should have been for old players, and was something quite small

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has been running for a while in theory

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old > all players

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my bad on the woridng

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getting more details now

indigo frigate
remote fractal
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i don't think it's live currently

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apparently it should look similar to the checklist event in other games

indigo frigate
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I hope it's not as out of range to do as the others.

tropic token
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Is there a minimum amount of time you have to play for investors to actually register?

indigo frigate
tropic token
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Sometimes it just sits at 0 and then jumps to a very high number LOL

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might be that they are earning so fast it doesnt visually update and so the button remains greyed out.

indigo frigate
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or it is fractions away from opening.

tropic token
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Its nothing......nothing.....nothing....5 minutes later nothing.....sell for 16.4Y

indigo frigate
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yeah that 16Y might be why I'm only in the B's

indigo frigate
raven marsh
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same here

indigo frigate
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@dull bane DO you have an event for Empire?

raven marsh
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@dull bane did you have an event

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lol

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to slow with typing

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*too

dull bane
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Nooooo checklist type event

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No event at all

indigo frigate
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hmmm maybe they are going to do it on the weekend and told wongull wrong.

tropic token
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He said it wasnt active right now.

indigo frigate
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or changed the date for it to start and forgot to tell him.

raven marsh
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currently it is all weird btc miner event start 6 hours earlier then normal

indigo frigate
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or it starts in a few minutes without a countdown.

dull bane
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I will check empire throughout the day even after hitting wd limit just for y’all

indigo frigate
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yes piggy diggy normally starts now and it started way early this week like the rocket time on the weekend not the normal midweek time.

dull bane
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Imma go start piggy. Ping me if needed!

raven marsh
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hm my game acts again weird 😄

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ticket time

raven marsh
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anyone else have the problem with wd to lightning currently?

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Who is in that situation "we" 🙂

remote fractal
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It was active:

8th May - 11th May (on a weekend)

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(and should have been similar to a checklist event)

indigo frigate
undone jacinth
indigo frigate
undone jacinth
raven marsh
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yep was speedwallet that is why i was surprised who is then in charge

raven marsh
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*event

raven marsh
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wd works again to speedwallet

remote fractal
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we'll probably run it again this weekend, so will make a feedback thread for it