PC Build

[sacred sedge]

I am switching from a laptop to a PC and I have a 5000 US dollar budget, What should I get?
I know some about PC parts, I am thinking about 9800x3d + 5090
The things I am concerned about is:
memory price is high right now
New released GPU and CPU next year, should I wait?

[winged island]

whats the use case for the pc

[sacred sedge]

For gaming

[unkempt current]

country?
is peheriphals or monitor part of budget?

if US, do you live near a microcenter

[sacred sedge]

USA, monitor is part of budget, peripherals are not, I do live near a microcenter

[winged island]

can u say which microcenter?

also u dont rlly need a 5090, a 5080 is enough

but with that budget, u can make the best of the best

[sacred sedge]

The one in Atlanta, and I really want a 5090

[winged island]

i gotchu

imma see if i can hook u up with a 9950x3d too

i managed to make a build under 5k ith it so microcentermay be cheaper

98*

[winged island]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NsBRkD

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007354/amd-ryzen-7-9850x3d,-asus-b850-e-tuf-gaming-wifi-am5,-corsair-vengeance-rgb-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

performance wise, beside cooling, cant get much better

Meaning theres no need to go for astrals or lower ram timings etc

or a 9950x3d

[sacred sedge]

Thank you very much, this build is perfect

I really appreciate your help

[winged island]

U can change the case, cpu cooler and upgrade to a 9950x3d if youd like, I jus personally prefer that cpu cooler cuz it works for me and the case is fine as well

also for gaming, i dont see much of a diff between 9950x3d and 9850x3d but u can upgrade for more cores

[sacred sedge]

If I want a 4tb ssd which one should I look for?

[winged island]

Preferably TLC NAND ssds, gen 4 (or 5 if u want but it isnt important enough), speeds above 6k preferably is decent but 5k is fine, read and write

If u want dram then sure

[next tundra]

Bad ssd

[next tundra]

Tlc or qlc doesn't matter as long as it's good

And rated speeds don't mean jack shit

[next tundra]

+the 5090 isn't actually in stock

[next tundra]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gPLTCw
If you have any questions, lmk

[next tundra]

(bundle -> https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007341/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-asus-b850e-tuf-gaming-wifi-am5,-corsair-vengeance-rgb-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle)

[winged island]

And what exactly is good then

And how does the nand type not matter

[winged island]

????

Then what do you classify as a good ssd? What, its color or something?

Unless ur talking about random IOPs, which contribute mostly to booting the pc

[winged island]

So you downgrade the micro center kit.... for what reason exactly... your build vs mine (with the changed gpu) is just a $75 difference

[winged island]

Just realized he sent an ssd with the exact same specs, same TBW everything, but youre paying $55 extra for 100k more random read speed, im sleep

Whats even crazier is youre paying extra for the ps5 logo. The sn850x is the same thing

[lapis wagon]

• psu with less wattage 😭

[next tundra]

do u want me to list every single nand?

[next tundra]

because... it doesent, explain how it does?

[next tundra]

an ssd that wouldnt kill itself. an ssd that isnt slow as shit. (u dont listen to manufacturer ratings, u go out and actually check in reviews)

[next tundra]

...same exact specs? they do not share a nand nor a controller, tf are u talking about?

and no, we arent paying for a ps5 logo, its just the ssd that makes the most sense to get

you are clueless about ssds

[winged island]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-look-no-come-on-man-gif-21792060

[winged island]

Riiiiight

[winged island]

No need to, I alr know about the two diff ones, and patriot takes the edge, whats your point

[winged island]

Okay, get a slc, if you can find one, and use it.

Furthermore, tell me when it dies

[next tundra]

the X3-6070 is better than bics5? sure buddy.

[next tundra]

love the 0 arguments

[winged island]

???

You know the only reason the drive keeps up is mostly because of the DRAM cache

Its literally brtter in every aspect

Furthermore, youre getting down into the very technical aspects for that price gap, and the dude jus tryna play games too

DRAM isnt needed if thats also what u wanna say.

[winged island]

I dont argue with stupidity

"They dont have the same controller" no shit, ones micron the other is wd

One is black and white the other is black

Either ways, the OP is doing his thing, I really dont get why u had to push ur mouth in for no reason. You argue that nand type doesnt matter but it does. I dont feel like explaining to you but Id give you homework. Research about the bits per cell, P/E cycles, density and its sustainability after SLC cache.

You argue that read and write doesnt matter then wanna compare controllers. The WD has more channels, yes, thats why its output is higher in read and write, but its slower NAND is the reason why the patriot ssd keeps up with it for a lower price. For gaming, you also dont need all that read and write. The RANDOM IOPS are about the same too.

DRAM doesnt matter for gaming, some say this is subjective but it isnt. HMB is more than enough mr ssd professional

[next tundra]

brotato, the X3-6070 nand is questionable at best. i dont give a single fuck about the dram

[next tundra]

...so u agree they quite literally do not share specs?

[winged island]

Yo, buy both of them and compare them for gaming and booting your pc

[next tundra]

if u are so smart, then tell me - what is the pec number for the us75?

cuz i doubt u have that

[next tundra]

big dawg thinks qlc vs tlc matters when the drive he suggested IS qlc

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-9403556598434283568

[next tundra]

the X3-6070 version isnt even reviewed btw. im not talking about any of that. im saying dont fucking rely on manufacturer numbers which is the most basic thing ever

[winged island]

Because you keep talking about X3-6070

And Im literally proving to you how your ssd literally matches up to the worst version of mine this entire time

Furthermore, I already told you what to do, go do your homework. Ive showed you why you calling the ssd shit was unnecessary

And then proceeded to send an ssd that should be "shit" in your eyes too

[azure mountain]

both are kinda irrelevant when p5 plus is $200 for 2tb

[azure mountain]

i’d probably go with this with p5 plus and a nicer case like lancool 217 or something

no reason to go 78x3d here

[winged island]

Fr? I didnt see that

Damn

[winged island]

This question wouldve gotten me btw

Because the PE cycles on the QLC version of the ssd is shit

[azure mountain]

oh also

https://marketplace.nvidia.com/en-us/consumer/graphics-cards/?page=1&limit=15&locale=en-us&search=5090

5090 vanguard is $2930

in stock

[azure mountain]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/62FQqd

get a nice 4k oled with the rest of the money

[next tundra]

...how? Yours is literally unreviewed

[next tundra]

And you are still yet to name the number

[lapis wagon]

guys can we all agree there is no bad 2tb m.2 in this market... just get what you can 😭 🙏

prices are bad enough, people are resorting to 500gb nvmes these days

[azure mountain]

nobody is lol