Prebuilt recommendation

[copper sundial]

Other gpu recommendations are welcome and ill check local prices

[toxic walrus]

The 5070Ti is ~10% better then the RX9070xt, also Nvidia has DLSS so I would go for the 5070ti

The RTX4080S is about ~5% faster then the 5070ti, but i would still go for the 5070ti

[mellow elk]

4080s is the same price as the 5070ti and the 4080 super is faster, go 4080 super

[toxic walrus]

Only 5%

[mellow elk]

Depends on the context

Even if it was 1% better wit context

Same price

[toxic walrus]

I would still go with the newer gen

[mellow elk]

Generation doesn't really matter, the 50, 40, 30, 20, 10 is not what youre watching

Its the two numbers after

That state the performance

Cuz in that case, youd choose a 5080 over a 4090

Because it's a 50 at the front

And lose out on alot of performance

[subtle heron]

5070ti

gets mfg and longer driver support

no reason to get the older card

[toxic walrus]

Then why does the 20/30/40/50 even exist if they could have jsut kept it in one gen

[mellow elk]

Because the newer generations offer more features and optimization compared to the last

More features, not performance

If you dont need the features, then go for performance

[toxic walrus]

So take the 5070ti

5% aint much

[mellow elk]

Only if you need the features the 5070ti offers

[mellow elk]

Again, that's contextual

You cant say 5% across the board

[toxic walrus]

dawg

[mellow elk]

It depends on the task, the other components, if its a game then the game, the resolution

You cant say its 5% better across all

As solo said, he can choose the 5070ti for mfg and more driver support

He didnt say its 5% difference

MFG is apart of DLSS4, a featureb

[copper sundial]

fair, is the 5070ti worth that 20% more over the 9070xt?

[toxic walrus]

20% for a cheaper price if you ask me

[copper sundial]

whats the difference between like cheap and expensive gpus even if its the same card

the one im looking at is by galax

[toxic walrus]

Idk I'm sitting on a Intel card

[mellow elk]

Thermal design and look

Its mostly the cooling, the sound, the look etc thats different

The cooling, not by alot

Get the cheapest of the card it doesn't matter, or if you have money to buy preference then u can

Commonly hated is the ventus though, idk why (it sounds like an airport)

[copper sundial]

imma just ask:

wdyt of this pre-built
https://aftershockpc.com/products/amd-combo-level-7-ryzen-5-7500f-rx-9070-x

its quite competitive considering ram prices are through the roof

im currently on 5600x + 3070ti, been wanting to go am5 for a long while but i felt that my games ran alright until recently when i went from 1440p to 4k

Prebuilt recommendation

[mellow elk]

Id say the cliche you can get better if you build it yourself

The parts are decent, nothing crazy

N they only give u a 750w psu

[copper sundial]

i agree but ddr5 ram prices are kinda crazy

[mellow elk]

I know, still can get better

[copper sundial]

fair point, they offer a 850W psu for $35 more

[copper sundial]

wdym by better, as in the stuff i can get for the same price?

[mellow elk]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rDxD6Q

This build is about 47 cents cheaper

U get the 7800x3d cpu, 850w psu

2tb storage

ATX build

Better cooler

And I wasn't even tryna look for parts, I jus clicked the first good part I seen

If I had to actually sit there n make a max performance build for that price, youd prolly get better

[copper sundial]

the one you sent is usd no?

the one i send isnt usd so yeah

[mellow elk]

You aren't from the US?

[copper sundial]

converted is 1300us

[mellow elk]

Even better

[copper sundial]

im from singapore

[mellow elk]

What country are you from

[mellow elk]

Well I have to head to work soon so I cant even ask what retailers you use to try and build one

And Im not sure how Singaporean prices are

[copper sundial]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0891/2889/4755/files/Dynacore_PL.pdf?v=1018

[mellow elk]

Either ways, you being from Singapore may change the opinion on whether its better to build or to buy prebuilt

[copper sundial]

thats true

i feel its a throwup

the prebuilt prices are competitive, but they skimp on certain parts

[mellow elk]

Unfortunately I wont have the time right now to test that theory, but a quick answer to your pre-built question is the parts arent bad, it jus seems like they cheaped out on most things

Micro atx build, 1tb storage of a low budget ssd, 750w psu, an id cooling cooler which works but is cheap

But atleast the 9070xt ig

[copper sundial]

yeah thats fair, ill look about

[mellow elk]

Sorry I cant help you further right now, I have to get going for work, not a bad build in terms of performance though,but performance isnt the only factor you should consider when buying a pc

Its price as well

[copper sundial]

no problem, i mean our time zones are kinda flipped, im going to bed, so probably catch you in about 9 hours or so

[mellow elk]

You'd let me know what retailers you got

[copper sundial]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0891/2889/4755/files/Dynacore_PL.pdf?v=1018

this is pretty much the only online one, its a ballpark

for prebuilts theres:

aftershock pc
invader pc

[copper sundial]

thats all i can find online

[mellow elk]

U can get the prebuilt in that case

[copper sundial]

how does the 7700 or 7800x3d perform compared to the 7500f?

if its a large difference i dont mind paying abit more for those cpus

[mellow elk]

What task? Gaming?

[copper sundial]

yeah mainly gaming, i do abit of productivity as well, lightroom (photo editing)

i am also still deciding on 5070 ti or 9070xt, but leaning on the latter because the 5070ti build is like $200us more

[mellow elk]

7800x3d>7700>7500f but the difference between the 7700 and 7500f in gaming isnt that much so it comes down to the price difference

[copper sundial]

its like 40 ish usd more for the 7700 over 7500f

[copper sundial]

looks like it based of cpu charts

[mellow elk]

7500f

[mellow elk]

Wym?

[copper sundial]

like i saw a video comparing diff cpus in diff games with the same gpu

[mellow elk]

Nice

[copper sundial]

do you mind helping me take a look around these few options

[mellow elk]

4th one is the most powerful but 750w power supply, second one is good value but still m-atx and first one is mud tier

Mid*

Which fits in your budget?

Do they all fit in your budget?

[copper sundial]

yeah they all fit

my budget is around 2k sgd

you can take a look at their websites if you are free

aftershock pc
invader pc

im flexible budget wise, i wanna get a decent pc that can run 4k with fsr4/dlss4, idm paying more if it means better bang for buck if you get what i mean

[mellow elk]

Id go wit the last one

[copper sundial]

theres also this, same pricing at the last one

but its trading the 5070ti for 9070xt with a better cpu and other parts

[mellow elk]

https://www.invaderpc.com/product/specm45/

Was jus about to send you that

[copper sundial]

yeah haha

[mellow elk]

They're all matx but this seems good

[copper sundial]

personally i have not much pref for atx or m-atx

[mellow elk]

Nice, then you can go for that one

[copper sundial]

is there any difference anyway

[mellow elk]

Big and small

[copper sundial]

ive been using m-atx since my first pc

[mellow elk]

And ports

Matx may have less ports than ATX

[copper sundial]

fair

[mellow elk]

Cuz smaller board

Thats really it

[copper sundial]

this one seems decent actually, a proper aio with a decent mobo and psu

[mellow elk]

Yee

x3d chip n 9070xt

Youd be good off with this one