#hdmi 2 no signal: msi monitor, potentially motherboard problems

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limber ibex
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when usinf a laptop i can connect to the monitor

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hdmi 2 will display, hdmi 1 will be detected but not display, displayport will not display

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when i plug in my pc at the same time as my laptop, trying to swap from hdmi 2 to dp, doesn’t work

uneven snow
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pic of pc

limber ibex
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what specifically or the entire thing

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gpu fans aren’t spinning but i think jts jjst bc it’s not utilised yet

uneven snow
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the power cable does not look to be plugged in right

limber ibex
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it can’t go in any more, it’s a lian li stock cable

uneven snow
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mate its giving you a error light and code

limber ibex
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this is my first pc idk any of thhs

uneven snow
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but its in the manual

limber ibex
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i didn’t read it

limber ibex
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the gpu is on though how isn’t it connected

uneven snow
limber ibex
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the little screen and everything

limber ibex
uneven snow
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all the way or else fire

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there should be no gap

limber ibex
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do i hold the clip thing constantly

uneven snow
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no

limber ibex
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it physically can’t go in anymore than it has

uneven snow
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if it cant lets go over to the main issue

limber ibex
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okay

uneven snow
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so what does the code mean

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or fuck it, what motherboard and code

limber ibex
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the documents in my motherboard box has nothing about errors

uneven snow
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what motherboard

limber ibex
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b850 aorus stealth ice

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also the gpu cable can be pushed in further it seems so i gotta try harder

uneven snow
limber ibex
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that’s not in my box the document

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can you link it to me

hollow cargo
limber ibex
hollow cargo
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Below the Red LED there's a white 7-segment display with numbers on it

limber ibex
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it says 46

hollow cargo
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What does the manual say 46 means...?

limber ibex
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46 isn’t on there

hollow cargo
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Take a photo of the two seven segment displays

limber ibex
hollow cargo
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Try a minimum memory config

limber ibex
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so just 2 sticks

hollow cargo
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1

limber ibex
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in which slot

hollow cargo
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At some point you need to read the manual yourself.. lol

limber ibex
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it’s not compulsory to help also idk where to look in the manual

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you can’t be fussy and annoyed at me when you chose to help me

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if it’s not too much trouble can you just help me out here

hollow cargo
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I'm helping and I'm happily helping, just saying, I'm figuring this out along with you mate

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So per the diagram, if you've only got one DIMM, you should use slot A2

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If you get the same issue, swap it with another DIMM and test again

limber ibex
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ive got a dentist appointment, do you think you can help me out in an hour

hollow cargo
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I presume I'll be around 🙂

limber ibex
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thank you boss

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sorry i was kinda rude

hollow cargo
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All good my dude, sorry if my comment came across as harsh or direct

uneven snow
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rule nr.1 of ddr5 is only 2 actual sticks of ram

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on desktop computers if you wanna game

limber ibex
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i tried the 1 slot

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did not work

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@hollow cargo

limber ibex
uneven snow
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Thank god

uneven snow
limber ibex
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or keeping only 1 in slot 4

uneven snow
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The last one

limber ibex
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still says no signal

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let me try a dp

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yeah dp no signal

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it still has 46 written on it

limber ibex
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hm let me air dust the slots or smth

uneven snow
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Try 1 and 3

limber ibex
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individaully right

uneven snow
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Na both

limber ibex
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still 46

uneven snow
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How long have you had the pc on after saying 46?

limber ibex
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uhh wdym

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i turn off the pc and plug out the power each time im changing the ram configuration

uneven snow
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That part is what you are meant to do

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But like how long have you just let it sit on code 46

limber ibex
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not longer than 5 minutes

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do i need to let it marinate or smth

uneven snow
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Yeah ok that is how you are meant to do it

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Tried clearing cmos?

limber ibex
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idk what that is sorry

uneven snow
limber ibex
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i see

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i need to take it out?

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i am struggling to find it

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omds do i need to take apart my whole system to clean it

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this is really annoying

uneven snow
limber ibex
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i see okay

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if that doesnt work whats the next step?

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@uneven snow

uneven snow
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reseat cpu and check pins

limber ibex
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could it not be a bios thing or smth

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the pc never has started so

uneven snow
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could try to update to the latest with qflash

limber ibex
limber ibex
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one thing im confused about

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once i've extraxted all those files

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theres the .f3 file

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and some others

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do i just delete the other adn keep .f3

uneven snow
hollow cargo
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What CPU do you have?

uneven snow
limber ibex
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9950x3d

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ok i did the bios now i'll do the cmos

hollow cargo
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Yeah, but the issue is the GPU is displaying nothing and we have a DIMM fault being reported yeah? So let's strip it, minimum to post if we can. If the CPU has integrated graphics, we can remove the GPU, connect to the mobo, try just one DIMM, if the issue remains, swap it with another one, etc.

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Did the BIOS as in upgraded?

limber ibex
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i can try plugging it into the motherboard

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yeah

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q-flash+

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hopefully it updated

hollow cargo
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As long as you followed the process

limber ibex
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yup waited for it to stop flashing

hollow cargo
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Ok so that CPU has integrated graphics

limber ibex
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i see

hollow cargo
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So take out your GPU

limber ibex
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okay

hollow cargo
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Connect the monitor to the motherboards HDMI port, have just one DIMM installed, and try switching it on

limber ibex
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okay

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the cable is the biggest pain its so stiff

hollow cargo
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The power cable connecting to the GPU? Or the monitor cable?

limber ibex
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gpu

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power cable

hollow cargo
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Stiff as in to get out of the GPU, or bending/routing through the case?

limber ibex
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get out

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of the gpu

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what is it not meant to be stiff

hollow cargo
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Stick with the current plan, but when we do connect it back in, do you have a different cable?

The connector is supposed to be hard plastic, and can be a bit tough to push into place, but it should seat all the way, and the locking latch on the connector should engage. If it doesn't, something is wrong with the cable or connector on the GPU, my money would be on the cable

limber ibex
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oh no its fully in, its just stiff to get out

hollow cargo
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Yeah that's not a huge issue, that's mostly just the design

limber ibex
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so i've put the case flat, should i just hold the gpu or press down on it as i pull out the cable

hollow cargo
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I would have one hand on top of the GPU, with the other hand squeeze the locking connector and grip the connector and while trying to pull it up, gently wiggle/rock left and right along the width of the connector to try to help loosen it. If it's not coming out, you might need to take it to a PC shop, you don't want to break the GPU connector and if you're not 100% on how much force to use, don't risk breaking it

limber ibex
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no pc shops exist near me

limber ibex
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or wigglign then pulling

hollow cargo
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As you raise it

limber ibex
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oh i see

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yeah this part will take forevr

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oh hey i did it

hollow cargo
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🙂

limber ibex
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uhmm next issue

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how do i get to the clip.

hollow cargo
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?

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At the front of the PCIe slot?

limber ibex
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yeah

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on the place i get it in

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dont i need to undo the clip same way for ram

hollow cargo
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It depends on the design of the board and clip

limber ibex
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well

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its just a small gap to get anything in

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its just like a ram tab

hollow cargo
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Yeah they often don't design these thinking about disassembly haha. Either the front or rear of the GPU, without bending anything, can your fingers reach those locking tabs? Can you push/pull (depending on the design)?

Also remember, you might need to have the rear of the card loose first

limber ibex
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no chance i can touch it

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its an aorus 5080 if that helps

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yeah i need to get the tab open first

hollow cargo
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I think I came across a similar issue years ago, and the only option I had wasn't great, I needed to use a flat head screwdriver to reach down and push it. Thing is, if you slip, you could kill the mobo

limber ibex
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i took off the m.2 cover

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gpu removed

hollow cargo
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Nice. Single DIMM, monitor to mobo, see if it powers on

limber ibex
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should i clean the cmos first?

hollow cargo
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Up to you, if it's a brand new setup I guess it wouldn't hurt?

limber ibex
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i didnt

limber ibex
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still has 46 on it

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no signal detected

hollow cargo
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Red LED?

limber ibex
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im colourblind so i dont actually know too well

hollow cargo
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Pic?

limber ibex
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cmos time or smth i assume

hollow cargo
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Power drain, swap the DIMM and try again

limber ibex
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power drain?

hollow cargo
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Unplug the PSU, hold the power button down for no less than 20 seconds

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Use the same DIMM slot but use the other DIMM

limber ibex
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huh

hollow cargo
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To which bit?

limber ibex
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r u asking me to run 2 ram sticks or 1

hollow cargo
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So you've got 4 memory slots, and you've got 2 real memory sticks yeah? One of the real ones is installed at the moment. Power drain the system, then take that stick out and put the other one in its place

limber ibex
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ah

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error 46

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no display

hollow cargo
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The memory you're using with the LEDs on top, is that part of the dimm or is that an extra piece that clips over the top?

limber ibex
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its part of it

hollow cargo
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Do you have the specs of the DIMMs? Manufacturer/model?

limber ibex
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CMH32GX5M2B6000Z30W

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6000MT/s

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CL30

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30-36-36-76

hollow cargo
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Checking

limber ibex
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thank you

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in the meantime i'll take out the cmos

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okay uhm this cmos design is very different to the standard i see online

hollow cargo
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How so?

limber ibex
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i literally don’t know what to do here

hollow cargo
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Looks like there's a spring I. The right hand side, and not much holding it on the left. Can you fit something small on the left side of the batter and push it right a little, while trying to get it to pop out/up?

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Also, this is really odd, looking at the memory support list for your mobo, I can see CMH32GX5M2B6000Z30 and CMH32GX5M2B6000Z30K, but no CMH32GX5M2B6000Z30W. But the K variant I think is just the black variant, so I don't know why they wouldn't have the W variant in the list, but yeah it's not there

limber ibex
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i saw on pcpartpicker someone w my mobo w the ram so i assumed it should be fine since they didnt report any issues

hollow cargo
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I'd reach out to gigabyte/Corsair to confirm just to be sure, and logically it makes sense that it should be ok, but just to be sure

limber ibex
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ok i cannot get the cmos out at all, i'll just short it

hollow cargo
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Yeah if you've got a jumper go for it, there should be a jumper header for thst

limber ibex
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i think i got them

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wait so

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to short it

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does the pc need to be on

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or off

hollow cargo
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There should be a procedure in the manual, I haven't checked it, normally it's something like you short the jumper, switch it on, that clears everything and it boots without the ability to save changes, then you power it off, move the jumper back/stop clearing CMOS, and power it back on again

limber ibex
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all it says

hollow cargo
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Oh ok, so yeah, just short it for a few seconds I guess?

limber ibex
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omds

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started the pc

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doesnt work

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rttot 46

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error*

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same thing

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hdmi 2 no signal: msi monitor, potentially motherboard problems

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do i just rebuild it atp..

misty marsh
limber ibex
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yes

hollow cargo
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The issue should be the memory or possibly the CPU, though it could be the mobo. Considering we've swapped the memory about and the error didn't change, we should hopefully be ok there. The only other things I can recommend before reseating the CPU would be to test the DIMMs in other slots, and make sure everything that's not minimum to post is removed. Minimum to post for this system is the mobo, CPU, 1 DIMM, a PSU, and power button. So any SSD's, HDDs, ODD's, WiFi cards, etc, get them out, try the other DIMM slots one by one, only one DIMM is needed to test, if the issue is still there, reseat the CPU while inspecting the pins and under side of the CPU

misty marsh
limber ibex
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yup

misty marsh
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reseat the CPU...and whats the boards name again?...

limber ibex
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b850 aorus stealth ice

misty marsh
limber ibex
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yes

hollow cargo
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I think 46 is one of the reserved codes for this board

limber ibex
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when i put the cpu back in

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should i take off the thermal paste

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or nah

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i have isopropyl alcohol

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my friend gave me his thermal paste its mx-6 so i got some left over

misty marsh
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keep using a single ram stick...try a different one...
and make sure you are seating this CPU properly..

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and the liquid cooling setup..

limber ibex
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okay

hollow cargo
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If it's brand new and you don't accidentally rub it off, you'll probably be ok, if you have spare thermal paste it wouldn't hurt, but also maybe at least wait till it completes post, because if you remove it again, you'll then need to reapply it again

limber ibex
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makes sense

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aio installed

limber ibex
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slot 1, does not work

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error 46

hollow cargo
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No issues with the socket, pins, CPU that you could see?

limber ibex
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nothing

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all clear

hollow cargo
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If I needed to guess, you got a faulty CPU or mobo

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I'd contact gigabyte and ask about the error

limber ibex
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how do i even prove that to amazon without having to pay an extravagant fee

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okok

hollow cargo
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Being restricted, they should know what it means

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If you got all of these components from Amazon, maybe reach out and let them know that one of them appears to be faulty and you're looking into it, that way if it takes another month or two to get an answer from gigabyte, Amazon knows that the issue started now and can't bounce you back for a refund or something

limber ibex
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okay

hollow cargo
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Sorry I couldn't help more, and it's an extremely unlikely situation. If I think of anything else I'll let you know

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When you did the BIOS flash, it was the more recent update yeah?

limber ibex
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mhm

hollow cargo
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F3?

limber ibex
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yes

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my mobo is revision 1, sigh

hollow cargo
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Try not to get too discouraged. While it's a setback, think of what you've gone through here and what you've learned. This is what PC building is about. Next time you need to build one you'll be a pro, then one day you'll get to Linus status and have so much YouTube money that you can afford to drop anything 🙂

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Who knows, maybe you'll be able to help the next you in this forum 🙂

limber ibex
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is it a guarantee i can get replacements

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omds this shipped from the usa asw its going to take forever

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and i need to locate all the screws to put back in the box

hollow cargo
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I presume this stuff is all brand new? It should all be under warranty, Amazon is normally good with that aren't they?

limber ibex
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yup its all new

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under 2 weeks old

hollow cargo
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What country are you in?

limber ibex
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uk

hollow cargo
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I'm not sure what the laws are there, but there should be something about DOA, faulty on arrival, etc, or just a basic warranty that's stated on the sale page

limber ibex
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okay

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whats this

hollow cargo
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No idea?

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VGA is your old school monitor connector, the blue one with lots of pins. Maybe they're asking for your monitor manufacturer?

limber ibex
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i think it meant gpu

hollow cargo
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One of the two would be my guess, but technically it doesn't make sense lol

limber ibex
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im just getting amazon to replace it hopefully

misty marsh
hollow cargo
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Generally, It's more likely for a motherboard to have issues like this than the CPU, the CPU is a very highly engineered part with much higher manufacturing standards employed. The only real concern there is transport, which is out of your hands.

In this case we had a DRAM error reported, and the CPU is the memory controller. So if the issue was the mobo, there's a better chance of resolving it by using different DIMM slots. If you do that and the issue remains the same, it's more likely that the issue is the CPU, unless you can see damage to the socket, which you couldn't in this case

limber ibex
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tried all 4 slots

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did not work

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code 46 each time

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im just getting this refunded and buying it again

hollow cargo
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Yeah sounds good

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3F~4F Reserved.

I think the 46 code should fall in there somewhere, and being reserved, it's probably part of what manufacturers refer to as vital product data (VPD), which is normally either proprietary or only for service personnel

limber ibex
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im getting the mobo and cpu replaced

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cant be too careful

limber ibex
hollow cargo
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Pretty slim chances of having 2 faulty DIMMs. But I would still check with gigabyte about compatibility. Again, it doesn't make sense that there's an issue, but if you want to dot your I's and cross your T's...

limber ibex
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i got my new motherboard after amazon took ages to process a refund

hollow cargo
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How did it go?

limber ibex
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oh no like i literally just got it

hollow cargo
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Oh right haha. Fingers crossed it sorts it out!

limber ibex
limber ibex
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k