Hey all. I have been lucky enough to find work in my free time and i have saved up for my own system. My budget is 2000 euro but i do have a some legroom up to my cap which is 2300 euro. I do have peripherals so no need for that.
I would appreciate some help with putting together a build an some guidance on how to spend my money wisely. I do know a bit about components and stuff but i would appreciate some help. I do like the fractal design look but i dont know if its smart to spend money there.
I am in Europe, if it makes things easier i can link the retailer im buying from.
Thanks for any help!
#I need some help with picking components.
worldly osprey
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Hey all. I have been lucky enough to find work in my free time and i have saved ...
what country specifically? also what resolution do you plan to play on? 2000€ may actually be severe overkill in some cases
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what country specifically? also what resolution do you plan to play on? 2000€ ma...
Im buying the pc in poland, i play a lot of different games shooters, movement games like dying light 2 rpgs like cyberpunk and some other pretty graphics intensive games. I do want to play some star citizen it looks great. Helldivers and ready or not is on my pc bucketlist but those arent as graphics intense as cyberpunk or rdr2
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Im buying the pc in poland, i play a lot of different games shooters, movement g...
i see. what resolution?
because the higher the res the more you wanna invest into a gpu
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i have 2 monitors but im not sure ill be using both im probably going to use my 1440p monitor and i dont think i need anything better than that anyways
white slate
What’s the refresh rate
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you could go with 9070xt + 7800x3d i guess. if you really need RT you can go for a 5070ti but its like 150€ more
though thats still well within your budget
white slate
Also what fractal design case were you interested in?
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i have no idea what motherboard to get ive heard that x670e is a good chipset and to avoid x870e
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as for others, just make sure you've got:
- m.2 pcie4.0 SSD (whatever capacity youd like)
- 32gb ddr5 6000mhz cl30 ram
- b650(m) mobo
- 850W 80+ gold psu (like corsair rm850e)
- a nice air cooler (like tr peerless assassin or sum)
worldly osprey
i was thinking the nort or north xl
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i have no idea what motherboard to get ive heard that x670e is a good chipset an...
youre overspending if youre buying any X. a simple B650 or B850 will do
B650E is already overkill
white slate
If you wanted too you could even get a liquid cooler from like Thermalright pretty cheap but really well made
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i wouldnt recommend liquid cooling
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AIOs have a limited lifespan
white slate
Not really anymore they are really efficient now
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the pump stops working within 7 years if its a good one
white slate
7 years is like half my life bro
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😭🙏
worldly osprey
😭
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but like keep in mind. you spend 50-100€ now and then again in 7 years
but if you spend max 40€ in air, its gonna last you forever
worldly osprey
ig thats fair
white slate
In 7 years you buy a whole new pc bro
worldly osprey
In 7 years you buy a whole new pc bro
that is fair too
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and what are you gonna do with this one?
white slate
Sell or give to cousin
worldly osprey
😭
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thats like having a liability of a PSU and selling it
worldly osprey
lemme see what the store im buying from looks like
white slate
A lot of the problems with aios have been fixed they have much longer expectancy
Think of them as a loyal dog that cools your computer
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well air coolers do the same
white slate
Yeah
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if nothing else youre saving money
white slate
And with a 7800x3d I feel like liquid cooling is kinda needed
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also since you mentioned that youre confused by the mobo name formats:
Naming format:
[Chip Family] [Model Number] [Suffixes]
example: B650M-A
AMD Chip family:
A = Low-end (Entry-level)
B = Mid-end (Mainstream)
X = High-end (Enthusiast)
Model number:
Naming format: [Generation] [Feature tier]
Generation:
3 = For Ryzen 1000, 2000 [AM4]
4 = For Ryzen 2000, 3000 [AM4]
5 = For Ryzen 3000, 5000 [AM4]
6 = For Ryzen 7000, 8000G [AM5]
8 = For Ryzen 9000 [AM5]
Feature tier:
10-40 = low-end feature set
50-60 = mid-end feature set
70 = high-end feature set
Suffix:
Form factor suffix:
(none) = ATX size
M = Micro-ATX size
ITX = Mini-ITX size
Feature suffix:
E = Extreme (PCIe5.0 for GPU+M.2)
PLUS = Enhanced base model (Tier 1)
PRO = Enhanced base model (Tier 2)
DELUXE = Enhanced base model (Tier 3)
ULTRA = Enhanced base model (Tier 4)
MAX = Enhanced base model (Tier 5)
WIFI = Includes WiFi antennas and chip
F = Fast LAN/Audio
W = Workstation edition (better stability)
S = Server edition
A = OEM-specific (worse than base model)
If the form factor suffix is present, the feature suffix will be added after it with a dash (B650M-E).
AM5 (Ryzen 7000-9000)
High-end
X870E
X670E
X870
X670
Upper-mid-end
B850E
B650E
B850
Mid-end
B650
Low-end
A620
A620A
slight cheatsheet i made
white slate
Get like a b650 with WiFi
worldly osprey
What is a reasonable price for a 5070ti/a trusted manufacturer?
white slate
Like a lot
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What is a reasonable price for a 5070ti/a trusted manufacturer?
5070ti is still very overpriced
its like 800€ AT BEST
white slate
I’m too poor for Nvidia I cry when I look at the prices
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mostly 850+
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i got my 9070xt for like 670€ at some random italian website
worldly osprey
is this some kind of super deal or shady manufacturer?
white slate
But 9070xt is really great
worldly osprey
for context thats like €517,23
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palit is in fact an actual card
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It’s a real card
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yeah ther rest of the prices line up
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its a 5060ti
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😭🙏🙏
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Do you need nvidia for any reason?
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thats like seeing a 9060xt for 350 just to realise its an overpriced 8gb ver
white slate
350 euros for a 9060?
white slate
That’s over priced like crazy
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yeah exactly
white slate
In the us it’s 380$ for the 16gb
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not necessarily ive just kind see it as the standard
well you shouldnt anymore. nvidia SUCKS at anything that isnt top end rn
white slate
Pricing wise
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like everything up until 4090 is just not good
worldly osprey
heres 2 3100 pln=€728,82
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intel for budget, amd for mid high tier
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and gigabyte is reputable
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nvidia is now only top tier
white slate
Intel is my child
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heres 2 3100 pln=€728,82
amazon.it or .de have one for 710€. how much is shipping from there to you?
worldly osprey
Intel is my child
i just read your username😭
white slate
Bro don’t worry
worldly osprey
amazon.it or .de have one for 710€. how much is shipping from there to you?
probably more expensive that reasonable
white slate
I’m like half goldfish
worldly osprey
I’m like half goldfish
thats tuf
white slate
Don’t look at the photo closely
worldly osprey
amazon.it or .de have one for 710€. how much is shipping from there to you?
this store is from poland so its baisically free
worldly osprey
heres 2 3100 pln=€728,82
which one do you guys think i should get
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i mean they both have the same chip
the diff can only be in thermals and even then its like 2-3% if we compare the best and the worst model
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ill jsut get the cheaper one
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yeah
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B650
can literally be one for like 100€
i wouldnt necessarily go with the 85€ one but like a decently priced standard B650 will do
white slate
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can also be B650M if you want
white slate
Don’t look too closely at the ram, storage, psu or mobo. Not familiar with European pricing
worldly osprey
what deos EXTREME even do?
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ram should come at about 90-100€
ssd depends, i literally got 2tb for 73€ 😭🙏
mobo should be 100-130 max
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what deos EXTREME even do?
guarantees a pcie5.0 gpu AND ssd slot
aka you dont concern yourself with that
white slate
Basically more room
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its ok to have but like you dont need it
white slate
Not really needed unless your making something insane
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you only get it if you plan heavy overclocking more or less
worldly osprey
i do need wifi does that make it much more expensive?
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or if you really really want to make use of your pcie 5 x16 gpu
white slate
Just get a b650 with WiFi. Will work great should be around 100 euro
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i do need wifi does that make it much more expensive?
you dont need to buy a wifi board specifically. you can get a wifi usb adapter
worldly osprey
Just get a b650 with WiFi. Will work great should be around 100 euro
i want a pretty one tho
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i dont think i should spend extra on any white compnonets ive heard it expensive
white slate
It can be
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sticking to black then
white slate
Personally I don’t really get the all white build people. I like the black more
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im gonna spray paint the interior of my white case black and put in some black components lmao
white slate
What case?
worldly osprey
i did get the rog hype get to me for a sec is it any good?
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im gonna spray paint the interior of my white case black and put in some black c...
not the 150 euro😭
white slate
Bro you said fractal design I just picked a popular one
In us it’s like 100 freedom bucks
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also if you want an alternative to the fractal design wooden one
idk if its foifkin or sharkoon that made a similar one for half the price
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Bro you said fractal design I just picked a popular one
i mean like in general not case wise😭
white slate
Ok
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idk if its foifkin or sharkoon that made a similar one for half the price
tarrifs to where im shipping to are crazy
white slate
It what?
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tarrifs to where im shipping to are crazy
arent you polish? doesnt amazon ship there free,
worldly osprey
arent you polish? doesnt amazon ship there free,
Im buying in poland but i live in sweden (its complicated) and honestly amazon doesent have a great rep here
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ohh
worldly osprey
It what?
yeah our national postal service is litearly nicknamed postal murders for what they do to our packages
we have the same one that was in the ltt shipping nightmare video
so should i pick msi gigabyte or the overpriced pretty one from rog
worldly osprey
my ssd actually got stolen by german postal service lmfao
thats crazy
crazy european🇪🇺
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i just sent like 850€ worth of items to germany. hoping nothing happens to them
worldly osprey
i just sent like 850€ worth of items to germany. hoping nothing happens to them
were praying for you bro
worldly osprey
so should i pick msi gigabyte or the overpriced pretty one from rog
so what do i do?
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cheaper one
i also thought aesthetics are worth the money but it turns out i regret it
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yeah lmfao
especially because most of my builds are kinda like a challenge to me. yk to see how good of a pc i can get for my money
and then the extra 150€ just feels wrong
worldly osprey
good deal?
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especially because most of my builds are kinda like a challenge to me. yk to see...
finance min maxer
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good deal?
in €?
worldly osprey
€169,27
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i wouldnt say so no
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it doesent look bad either
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i got a B850 white with all extra bullshit for 185€
so surely you can get a b650 for 100-130€
worldly osprey
all extra bullsh*t?😭
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like features that arent the selling point but just ramp the price up lmao
i paid so much purely cuz its all white and looks good
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yeah thats a good one
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i paid so much purely cuz its all white and looks good
valid
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also ordered that one for one of my builds yesterday
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our ancient homes in sweden are cooked when it comes to networking]
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it costs a few euros
alr
are branded psu any more trustworthy than the like random "preyon" brand i see here
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are branded psu any more trustworthy than the like random "preyon" brand i see h...
yes
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ive heard good thing about the pure power 12M's
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the general rule of thumb is that a cheap psu is a no go. you wanna get something like a corsair, bequiet...
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ive heard good thing about the pure power 12M's
could yeah. i personally use corsair rm850x and i have the exact same setup with 9070xt and 7800x3d
you can also find the current psu tier list. you want one thats A or A+ grade
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the 990 ssd's are aparentloy beginner builder scams
white slate
Bro isn’t it like 3 in Slovenia and Poland rn
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2
white slate
Ahh same as France
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yeah im GMT+1
worldly osprey
yeah i gtg in a sec its 2 over here
white slate
Gn
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dw guys tiktok music is keeping me alive
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😭
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i enjoy my 60€ ones
i got all the stuff over here lexar kingston msi pny samsung
what should i get
even dahua techolgies
in poland we dont have asus
we have:
ESUS IT
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im obviously cheap af if you havent yet realised so i swear by waiting for 80€ ssd to drop to 50-60€ but you could go kingston or lexar yes
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slovenia
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this a scam?
how much is that in eur?
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alrighty
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if youre on amazon you really wanna check the used and returned ones from amazon warehouse
i got my 2tb one for 72€ that way
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yoyo im back
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i got my 2tb one for 72€ that way
Im putting everything together in pcpp and im wondering if i should get extra case fans, if so how many and what comoany is good.
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Im putting everything together in pcpp and im wondering if i should get extra ca...
ok so, ideally you get fans included with your case but especially with more expensive brands, thats not necessarily the case. if you have to buy aftermarket fans, unless you're going for complete aesthetics, i would just go with cheapest fans you can find that still look fine. anything that isnt a basic fan tends to be overpriced af
look for like packs of 3 or 5
worldly osprey
ok lemme do that and send over the pcpp
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as for how many you need... well depends on you entirely. 3 could defo be enough already, depending on your case's airflow. 4 is usually the standard but you can go all the way up to 10
also you need to check whether you're buying forward or reverse flow fans. reverse is for intake, forward is for exhaust
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alright
worldly osprey
and its well within my budget
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are these actual prices you're paying?
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no they are slightly different lemme just convert
damn i think the retailer might be upping a lot
3000 pln $823,33, 2000 pln $548,89, 500 pln $137,22, 600 pln $164,67
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ok so.
- you get thermal paste with your cooler so no need to buy extra unless you really want the aftermarket one
- peerless assassin should be like 41EUR
- how come you suddenly went for 9800x3d? i mean obv its not bad but for your needs a 7800x3d might be more than enough
- is that rly the cheapest ddr5 6000 cl30 ram you could find?
- you can get a usb adapter for wifi. its much cheaper
- i hope thats not the price for 1 pack of 3 fans
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ooohh i see
worldly osprey
let me adjust some things
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also at the price of 823EUR you're already tapping into 5070ti territory. check the prices for that
worldly osprey
thats better ram is still expensive tho
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also at the price of 823EUR you're already tapping into 5070ti territory. check ...
ok let me see prices for that
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well if thats the cheapest you can get then ig thats it
worldly osprey
thats the cheapest 9070xt
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yeah the rest is like 200-500 pln more (€117,41)
worldly osprey
this the cheapest one
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so thats like 150EUR more than the 9070xt?
damn your gpu prices are horrible. but compared to the 5070ti your 9070xt still holds better value as the price diff is normal
worldly osprey
yeah its really similar when compared to tother stores this is actually a not bad price
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well if you're forced to overpay anyways, just go with the 9070xt
at least you're not robbing yourself even more like you would if you went with a 5070ti
worldly osprey
this is the full build and the total is €1 944,37
worldly osprey
Thanks alot for the help guys! You've helped me save lots of money and considering what i was going to buy previously Im embarassed at how poorly i was allocating money. Ill see if Im going to post a update or not either way im really thankful for your help everyone. Thanks again!
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Thanks alot for the help guys! You've helped me save lots of money and consideri...
no problem, everyone starts somewhere. also i wouldnt recommend buying that windows 11 license
i wouldnt get windows 11 at all but even if you decide to actually buy the license, you can get the key for like under 15eur on some websites
white slate
I don’t even have any os installed besides un activated windows for a year now