Is this good?
#Budget pc
crude void
crude void
https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/HGQBRV changed it a bit
misty blade
The R5 5500 should come with a stock cooler
crude void
thats why i did the pcpartpicker too
misty blade
ah
crude void
but would it be a good budget pc?
misty blade
It would work, but idk about the performance
If you can afford it this could be a better idea
crude void
ah okay
wispy zenith
Is this good?
horrible
crude void
tell me why then
wispy zenith
pleas for the love of god just buy used
wispy zenith
tell me why then
1660, 40 euro air cooler
crude void
that is not your choice i decide to do it new and im asking help with a new build
wispy zenith
buy a whole used desktop
you should be able to see a 5600 and i guess like 4060 build for like 500-600
spark fossil
that is not your choice i decide to do it new and im asking help with a new buil...
That person is very rude and forceful ngl but I personally also recommend buying a used PC. If you can't, ig your setup is fine but consider upgrading the CPU cooler maybe
crude void
cpu cooler has been deleted since one comes with the 5500
wispy zenith
spend that money on a 5600
spark fossil
cpu cooler has been deleted since one comes with the 5500
Hmmm alr
wispy zenith
and yes it also comes with a cooler
crude void
wispy zenith
DO NOT get the 6500 xt
crude void
o wait pcpartpicker made a mistake on the case
wispy zenith
it genuinely sucks and anything over 480p is going to have a hard time running on 4GB vram
crude void
DO NOT get the 6500 xt
why not?
ah
wich one should i get then around the same price range
crude void
my budget is ca 500 if i change all that i get to 600
wispy zenith
buy something used
wispy zenith
my budget is ca 500 if i change all that i get to 600
you did click the link for the case?
wispy zenith
my budget is ca 500 if i change all that i get to 600
your not making a good pc for 500 new
crude void
you did click the link for the case?
i just said it was a mistake made by pcpartpicker
wispy zenith
i just said it was a mistake made by pcpartpicker
anyhow you just cant make a new good pc for 500
i tried but like every time i try its just downright not possible
crude void
wispy zenith
no
crude void
dont say no tell me the issue
wispy zenith
8GB is the minimum
you will NOT have a good time in most games with a 6GB card
buy a whole used pc
wispy zenith
if it was not gaming a 100$ mini pc would be enough
wispy zenith
that are intense on your pc
500 euro is a lot
buying a pc with the performance of like a 200 used one is not smart
crude void
i will not find a pc like this for 200
wispy zenith
im not telling you to
crude void
i just do not trust the 2nd hand market on this subject
wispy zenith
i just do not trust the 2nd hand market on this subject
on what subject
crude void
desktops
gritty crane
Remove the aircooler and get 16 gb ram instead of 32
crude void
the cooler is gone
wispy zenith
Remove the aircooler and get 16 gb ram instead of 32
no
its like 20$ less for 16GB
really not worth the cut down
but the build as it is just is not gonna be good
crude void
what is wrong with the build except the gpu
if everything else is good i can always upgrade the gpu later
it feels like you are only hating on the gpu so it seems there is no other problems
gritty crane
Can you get like a rx 7600?
crude void
probably later yes
but i just need a decent computer in this price range with just a gpu i would have to upgrade later
i think i could do a rx7600
gritty crane
If you can get an rx 7600 it should give you like double the fps of the 1660S
crude void
and all the other components would be fine then right
except the psu i would have to upgrade later on
wispy zenith
no
wispy zenith
except the psu i would have to upgrade later on
its 550w?
it can handle a 4070 fine with a 5 5600
crude void
so its fine?
gritty crane
Psu is fine
wispy zenith
well yea
crude void
greattt
gritty crane
I don't know how that motherboard would impact performance but with the rx7600 you have a decent 1080p build
gritty crane
Use a usb dongle
crude void
do i need thermal compound seperatly too?
wispy zenith
No
gritty crane
Use a usb dongle
With both wifi and bluetooth
wispy zenith
With both wifi and bluetooth
Not a thing
wispy zenith
Pcie cards are the only thing I have seen to offer em
gritty crane
Not a thing
It is
wispy zenith
O wow I could not find one last time I was looking
Thought maybe usb would just fuck itself if it had to try and do both but s PCIe card will ofc still be miles better for both
gritty crane
Ik
spark fossil
it genuinely sucks and anything over 480p is going to have a hard time running o...
WAIT 6500XT HAS 4 GB? 😭
I would understand 6 but 4?
crude void
https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/scfRt3 let me put this here so it is done and i cant change it
gritty crane
You'll have to update in some way the mobo bios
crude void
oh and how does one do that
gritty crane
If the motherboard doesn't come with the updated BIOS, you won’t be able to update it yourself coz the Ryzen 5 5600 needs a newer BIOS to work
it says that in your build
You should change the mobo or the cpu
misty blade
Yes but it’s micro ATX and won’t look super clean in an ATX case
wispy zenith
Yes but it’s micro ATX and won’t look super clean in an ATX case
How big of a budget do you think he has
wispy zenith
https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/W94mzP
500 euro
misty blade
his list is 593
wispy zenith
his list is 593
Does not mean he has that much
crude void
crude void
I have ordered
spark fossil
I have ordered
NICE
Now let's see how many dozens of 50+ USD games you'll buy per year lol
crude void
Huhhh
Ahhh
Wahahaha
Just have to wait for my allowance and then i can buy thé last part the gpy
Gpu
wispy zenith
epic games
spark fossil
epic games
Steam sales are good for enough for me
And epic games ones seem to appear exactly at the same time
Lol
spark fossil
I still remember picking all 3 watch dogs games for less than 10 USD on Steam
spark fossil
epic games is WAY WAY WAY WAY cheaper
Hmmm not here ig
wispy zenith
i dono i would call free way way way way cheaper
spark fossil
i dono i would call free way way way way cheaper
Oh that
wispy zenith
paid 0 cents
spark fossil
But welp you don't get exactly what you want 99% of the times
wispy zenith
but its free
spark fossil
paid 0 cents
Prolly spent 5 years to get them though
spark fossil
but its free
Yeah agreed
spark fossil
spent 5 years?
Yeah I check every week for 2 years and haven't seen watch dogs ever
spark fossil
But welp you do have to wait for Steam sales too
spark fossil
first game they did
I HAVE THAT
But
It's on my old account so I gotta log out and back in every time I wanna play it 😭
So I don't
I even thought of buying it on Steam
And Linux support is nice to have too in 2025
wispy zenith
funny your saying that
spark fossil
funny your saying that
Idk what that is but ik Lutris
wispy zenith
spark fossil
And Steam is way more conventient because fixes are already preapplied
Also automatic Proton updates
wispy zenith
that is a container
wispy zenith
well its not perfect ut at least i can use the gpu for more then one thing
wispy zenith
truenas
wispy zenith
im trying steamheadless on a server
steam headless is a debian container
that just has steam and sunshine preinstalled
spark fossil
That's more of a gimmick than a useful thing
Performance reduction is way too much even for like a 5080
Maybe 5090 is fine idk
wispy zenith
its not really meant to be some ultra gaming monster, just some random thingy i can play basic steam games on the go with moonlight
spark fossil
its not really meant to be some ultra gaming monster, just some random thingy i ...
Yeah ig so
I wonder if you can play non steam games like that lol
Actually that should be possible
crude void
Guys what's thé best/cheapest way to get Windows after i build the pc
Also i bought thermal paste idk if it was necessary
wispy zenith
Guys what's thé best/cheapest way to get Windows after i build the pc
It's free
wispy zenith
Also i bought thermal paste idk if it was necessary
It was not
crude void
It was not
Oh why not?
crude void
Wont i have the watermark and no way to change my background
wispy zenith
Oh why not?
since the cooler ALWAYS comes with paste if new ofc
wispy zenith
Wont i have the watermark and no way to change my background
last part you can ez pz
crude void
since the cooler ALWAYS comes with paste if new ofc
Well i cancelled the paste
crude void
last part you can ez pz
Oh Nice Well ill talk to you then for help ig
wispy zenith
great video linus made about this https://youtu.be/yJkRd9py5mA?si=COasP_L-e7aYNM_0&t=448
wispy zenith
well 2nd hand there is a chance the seller will not send with the cooler and the paste is 100% gonna be used
wispy zenith
i am literally a kinda refurber rebuilder of sorts
crude void
Huh
wispy zenith
Well it is thé better option in my budget
well yea, from the start i have wanted you to go full used
crude void
well yea, from the start i have wanted you to go full used
Talking about the amd gpu
crude void
its safe to buy used
It is?
wispy zenith
i know
wispy zenith
i am literally a kinda refurber rebuilder of sorts
why do you think i said this
crude void
Idk i said huh because i did not understand completely
wispy zenith
i buy tons of used shit test and fix it up, then most of the time sell it as a whole pc
its RARE i have issues
wispy zenith
like today sold a pc to a 10 year old boy budget simple machine
wispy zenith
So gpu's rarely have issues
most used parts
good parts stay good
that is my saying
crude void
Wish i got money from my parents for a pc when i was 10
wispy zenith
i suspect he saved up
crude void
I am Lucky to have a job i love during summer break
wispy zenith
im just working on puters
crude void
Im thinking of when i finish this build putting it up for sale for Profit to build a better one and maybe do the same
If it doesnt get sold ill keep it
wispy zenith
no
crude void
?
wispy zenith
your already buying like 5 year old parts
crude void
True
wispy zenith
like i have kept saying the performance you are getting now is more like 400 or eh a bit more on the used market for such a pc
crude void
Ah okay
wispy zenith
there are people out there who have no clue what to look for in a pc and just buy whatever looks maybe good so i have had a few sales at higher prices then even me now am happy with
it takes ages and is rare so do not do it based on this
crude void
Okay ill just keep it and upgrade it along the line
crude void
Rtx 3060 12gb single fan for just 190 euro's should i get that instead?
spark fossil
Rtx 3060 12gb single fan for just 190 euro's should i get that instead?
It's almost 2x less power so nah
Oh wait idk what your previous choice was
I'd say it's a decent price for a 3060 but it depends on your budget and alternatives
Like don't get it if you can get like a 5060 Ti
I think your previous choice was RX 7600?
That one is better than 3060 and I don't think you'll run out of VRAM coz these cards won't run games on max settings
crude void
So yes?
crude void
Yeah ill go for the 7600 since it's better for me in the long run anyway
spark fossil
Yeah ill go for the 7600 since it's better for me in the long run anyway
Hmmm for the long run you might need more VRAM if you don't mind playing at 30 FPS
Or stay with 8 and low textures
crude void
Why do i find online that the performance is better on the 3060
spark fossil
Why do i find online that the performance is better on the 3060
It might be in 4k or with ray tracing
But these GPUs aren't powerful enough to run games well in these scenarios
spark fossil
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+1050+Ti&id=3...
Uhhh I wouldn't trust random websites
Many of them are AI generated nowadays
spark fossil
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+1050+Ti&id=3...
Also this link leads to 1050 Ti
crude void
Yeah u just have to look for the 7600 and 3060 in the benchmark list
wispy zenith
techpowerup is really the only easy place
spark fossil
Yeah I'm looking at the website and it says that some iGPUs are more powerful than GTX 980 which I doubt
wispy zenith
gamersnexus, and all the others are good if you wanna spend a few more mins on checking more info
spark fossil
techpowerup is really the only easy place
I like techpowerup
wispy zenith
Yeah I'm looking at the website and it says that some iGPUs are more powerful th...
there are some that are on par with a 4060??
well one
8600s
spark fossil
there are some that are on par with a 4060??
Quad CPU setups?
wispy zenith
Quad CPU setups?
wat??
spark fossil
AMD Ryzen™ Al Max+ 395
Sounds like something very professional and not desktop oriented
wispy zenith
its not
and that is kinda the reason the igpu is so good
but the 8700g is about on par or better then a 1650
spark fossil
On techpowerup RX 7600 is 10% more powerful than 3060 which is very similar to benchmarks I've seen
spark fossil
but the 8700g is about on par or better then a 1650
Uhh you said 4060 before
I do believe it can be on par with 1650
But not 4060
crude void
Ah Well Ive Found the 3060 for 175 wich is a lot of money i can save
spark fossil
Ah Well Ive Found the 3060 for 175 wich is a lot of money i can save
Hmmm good deal
crude void
Yeah im getting it tuesday
wispy zenith
Uhh you said 4060 before
for the ai max turbo super cpu
spark fossil
Yeah im getting it tuesday
Alr
spark fossil
for the ai max turbo super cpu
Meh
wispy zenith
AMD Ryzen™ Al Max+ 395
spark fossil
Nobody uses AMD for heavy AI anyways
wispy zenith
8060s igpu
wispy zenith
Nobody uses AMD for heavy AI anyways
spark fossil
8060s igpu
Why does it even have one lol?
wispy zenith
Why does it even have one lol?
since its on par with a 4060?
spark fossil
since its on par with a 4060?
No like if it's a professional CPU, why does it need a powerful iGPU? It doesn't have VRAM to be used for AI anyways
Something Intel HD 2000 level would be enough
wispy zenith
No like if it's a professional CPU, why does it need a powerful iGPU? It doesn't...
AAAAAAAAAA
spark fossil
Maybe AMD wanted to flex lol
wispy zenith
the point of a APU is that the system ram is vram and that vram can then be used for massive AI models, like you can give the igpu fkn 96GB of vram
also the main benefit is way lower power use and size use, its also a great cpu
there is so much i can say about it
spark fossil
the point of a APU is that the system ram is vram and that vram can then be used...
Yeah but it's way slower than real VRAM
spark fossil
Welp whatever. My point is nobody uses AMD for AI (except for local models for privacy)
wispy zenith
128GB LPDDR5X 8000
wispy zenith
Welp whatever. My point is nobody uses AMD for AI (except for local models for p...
mi 350??
amd is better for long context
spark fossil
Hmmm
spark fossil
amd is better for long context
Now that is up to token size limit and not the CPU brand
I do know something about it
wispy zenith
Now that is up to token size limit and not the CPU brand
amd makes gpus and ai accelerators????
spark fossil
amd makes gpus and ai accelerators????
Ofc they do and everyone does (even Intel) but Nvidia is miles ahead
wispy zenith
also no for long context aka if your talking to the same model without making a new chat amd is able to let the model not be as crazy
spark fossil
also no for long context aka if your talking to the same model without making a ...
No idea how it can do it by itself. The only thing I can possibly think of is better error correction
But that's it
Maybe the experts who compared it used a lower powered Nvidia setup and AMD won because of that
wispy zenith
Maybe the experts who compared it used a lower powered Nvidia setup and AMD won ...
you mean level1techs?
spark fossil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T17bpGItqXw&pp=ygUKbGV2ZWwxdGVjaA%3D%3D
Uhh I literally said that local models are exceptions
AMD is superior for that price wise
Idk what the point of this fight is but it might be nefarious so I better just use the block button like a sane person
wispy zenith
spark fossil
For the last clarification, I was talking about databases with millions of GPUs, not personal local models