#9070XT or 5070TI?

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short spruce
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Current PC specs:
Ryzen 9 7950X
64GB DDR5 6400MHz
RTX 3070
2.5tb nvme storage (two drives)
Corsair RM850e(12v2x6 or 3 8-pins)

I play lots of beamng, modded Minecraft, occasional AAA titles and some older games.
I also do some video editing in Davinci resolve, but I think either card would be great there.

I care mostly for raw performance, I use DLSS quite a bit as of current though. I dont use RT unless the game makes me, like the new doom.

Its roughly a ~$120 price gap from the 9070XT up to the 5070ti.

coral bison
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Minecraft with RT is amazing

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I only play it like that

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And works fine even on the slowest of RTX GPUs

short spruce
heavy wigeon
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BSL is visually identical imo

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I’d probably get the 9070xt but Idrk the performance difference between them

verbal tapir
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that's such an easy buy

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$30 more than 9070xt

coral bison
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DLSS > FSR

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RT is better obviously

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Streaming should be better too

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The only place where AMD wins clearly is Linux support

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Not all Linux setups support NVidia

verbal tapir
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that's so worth it

heavy wigeon
pale crescent
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Whatever is cheapest

verbal tapir
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to $749

heavy wigeon
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Oh

prisma dragon
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To RT

royal zealot
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I would consider Radeon to Geforce in this case.
Both graphics cards are expensive and is likely to be used for a long time.
If NVIDIA's driver support is gone, the card is almost useless
AMD has raw power, so it would affect lesser

coral bison
# prisma dragon How

It's not easy. Currently RT support is broken and requires a script file to enable. Besides the script you need an RT enabled global resource pack such as Vanilla RTX

coral bison
prisma dragon
sacred flame
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Yeah if the price gap is 120 between 9070 XT and 5070 Ti, get the 9070 XT realistically you wont see a difference

pale crescent
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RT in Minecraft is lols

coral bison
verbal tapir
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5070ti dropped in price

gritty agate
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i dual boot windows and linux so i went with the 9070xt

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i dont see much diffrence in any

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astetics wise the 5070 line has a bunch more cooler option

warm quiver
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Id say 9070 xt cuz lipnus

gritty agate
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Yea

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But that 5070 Miku edition looks so good

coral bison
gritty agate
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Yes miku edition

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They made a whole line of stuff

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Case mobo aio PSU keyboard mouse headphones mousepad

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And the 5070 and 5080

coral bison
gritty agate
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And I think a 5060

coral bison
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Too bad they don't ship it to here

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And tbh a white setup is not for me

coral bison
gritty agate
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I'm in the u.s and theres no way there shipping here

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But it's still sick

coral bison
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Just with a 30% tax

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gritty agate
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WOW

coral bison
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Yeah

gritty agate
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The tariffs are making it impossible to import

coral bison
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Hmmm

gritty agate
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120 percent

coral bison
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Atp idek if tarrifs even work

gritty agate
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They dont

coral bison
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Constitutional court tried to cancel them

coral bison
gritty agate
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You can't just bring production to America on a whim

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If your want that you need to pressure manufacturers not consumers

coral bison
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Uhh I wasn't asking about how to make tariffs efficient

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I was asking if they're real

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But anyways

gritty agate
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They are

coral bison
gritty agate
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But they haven't gone into affect fully

coral bison
gritty agate
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Yea

coral bison
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Is there even an American GPU vendor?

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Idk what countries they all belong to lol

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I only know what's Chinese

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Like Palit

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Lol all major vendors are from Taiwan

gritty agate
coral bison
pale crescent
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And that’s not me being political, that’s just fact and why you got tariffs thrown left right and center making gpus more expensive on top of Ngreedia and amdelusional for pricing

coral bison
coral bison
pale crescent
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I think cost is the most important factor along with quality. If an American company could tick every box, would be great for competition all round and particularly in the Americas

coral bison
gritty agate
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Well the cost of workerd here is extremely high in china you could pay people 2 cents an hour

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Here the min at least in California is 17:30

royal zealot
coral bison
royal zealot
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See silentwisperer's video about it

coral bison
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And from what I've seen so far it's more intensive

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So my system won't run it well

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Also the sharp shadows "improvement" isn't actually an improvement. RT is supposed to give blurry shadows

coral bison
short spruce
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Just got a 9070XT for $720 on amazon. Arrives monday.

coral bison
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But welp at least not 3k like gaming laptops

short spruce
coral bison
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I would never get an AMD card myself

short spruce
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Why’s that?

coral bison
short spruce
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Understandable

coral bison
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2x the rendering time

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NVidia has some new technology for rendering now

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I forgot the name

short spruce
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I’ll see how it goes, if I regret it I’ll eat these words but I think it’ll do amazing.

short spruce
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In the timeline my CPU does most of the heavy lifting, the GPU only gets used for stabilizing and exporting.

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It’ll at least beat my 3070

coral bison
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It depends on the program

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I'm not into editing at all (I have 0 creativity literally) so can't speak about compatibility

short spruce
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Compatibility wont be a problem

coral bison
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I've heard that for productivity Nvidia > Intel > AMD

coral bison
short spruce
coral bison
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You should look up professional reviews

short spruce
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From what Ive gathered talking to many people, the 9070XT will be a good card for it. And its a good gaming card for, since I dont care for RT at all. I use DLSS, but from the videos Ive seen I have high expectations for FSR4. Using fsr 3 on my 3070 honestly looks similar to DLSS at least in the games I tried it in.

coral bison
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It's better than native

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It adds detail via AI or something

short spruce
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Ive seen, I dont feel like Im missing out

coral bison
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But it's not for everyone ofc

coral bison
short spruce
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I already prefer dlss/fsr quality over native in most cases anyway

coral bison
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It's just most games still use old FSR and some can't be upgraded via drivers

coral bison
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Native all the way

short spruce
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That can boil down to specific games in many cases

coral bison
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DLSS and FSR is witchery made to allow phantom graphics progress in the current hardware stagnation

short spruce
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I’ve thought of everything we’ve talked about so far before buying

coral bison
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Though in cyberpunk I get 2x the frames so I use it

short spruce
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I play 1440 on a 32 inch screen

coral bison
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But I use 1080p in games because it improves antialiasing

short spruce
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Not tryna be that guy but you said “Id never buy amd” and listed RT as a reason while running a 720P monitor😭

coral bison
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What's the issue?

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I love RT

short spruce
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I think you have an elephant to address before GPU brand

coral bison
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So I need 1440p and then I need a 5090 to use RT

short spruce
coral bison
short spruce
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But if it makes you happy I wont judge

coral bison
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Hmmm

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Good

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Anyways I'm planning to get a 5070 Ti PC next

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I would love a 1080p 32' but that doesn't really exist so ig 1440p with downscale it is

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Gonna look even worse than my 720p lol

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That's the issue

short spruce
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I dont not recommend 1080p 32

coral bison
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Upscaling works but downscaling doesn't

coral bison
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So shush

short spruce
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oof

coral bison
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Yeah I can see the pixels from 2m away

short spruce
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Im not very sensitive to displays but I struggle to read on a 1080p 32

coral bison
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And that's an issue

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All monitors are matte now

short spruce
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For a desktop I like matte, for a laptop gloss is a requirement tho

coral bison
short spruce
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I let lots of natural light in my room, and I do photo editing on my laptop

coral bison
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But anyways I have astigmated vision and reading on matte is basically reading white text on white background

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And matte makes quality worse

coral bison
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Which I don't

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Lol I feel like I'll need to resort to unknown brands to get a kind of monitor I want

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Or I'll just get a TV for 2x the price

short spruce
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There are plenty of gloss oleds lol

coral bison
coral bison
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Also burn in

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And excessive contrast

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I don't really need the 0.2ms less latency

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My current setup prolly has like 150-200ms anyways

short spruce
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I never use built in speakers, im a middle class audiophile. Not a book shelf speaker nerd, but not using $30 speakers.

coral bison
short spruce
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Middle class not as in money or anything but commitment

short spruce
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I have a Logitech X540 system, its awesome

coral bison
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So not available

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I can tell you some alternatives I have ig?

short spruce
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Its an older system I believe. An example of old but gold. Was like $500 new and I got it for $60 lol.

short spruce
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Very lightly used yes

coral bison
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W

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60 is hella expensive for speakers in my opinion but to each their own

short spruce
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Got it from my work, we recycle/refurbish stuff that gets tossed or comes from offices/schools that upgrade

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It was way under my budget lol

coral bison
short spruce
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I do audio stuff for my church

coral bison
short spruce
coral bison
coral bison
short spruce
short spruce
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He’s slowly trickling his knowledge to me

coral bison
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My church prolly isn't that invested

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But again my country is way less rich

coral bison
short spruce
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My churchs sound is better some concerts ive been too lol😭

short spruce
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True that

coral bison
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They are corporate machines and those obviously want max profit

short spruce
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I wanna see dream theater before portnoy is too old tho, thats all I really care for in concerts

coral bison
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Uhh idk what that olde english speak is

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I'm no philologist

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And I've never been to a proper concert I think

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Maybe when I was like 3?

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Idk

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And I don't want to. People who go to concerts kinda look low IQ to me

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Ngl

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Anyways my 3050 is getting 60+ FPS in cyberpunk and like 40 in GTA 5 with RT lol

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But at least without RT the enhanced version gave me +10 fps smh

short spruce
coral bison
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I think all kinds of people go to concerts

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Everyone normal does at least

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Normal as in mentally healthy

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Or even not tbh

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Only biggest introverts and covid paranoids don't

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Man I gotta improve my communication skills ngl

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But fr this is very offtopic

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If a mod sees this, I'm sowwy pwease forgive 👉 👈

royal zealot
royal zealot
coral bison
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Or cyberpunk with path tracing

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And why not just have more FPS tbh?

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I can feel a difference between 60 and 90 for example

royal zealot
coral bison
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Maybe I forgot already

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Btw I'm talking no DLSS

royal zealot
coral bison
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I'm sure DLSS quality gives at least 50% more

coral bison
royal zealot
coral bison
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Welp smaller screen

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Same deal on Steam Deck

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I can play games on my phone at 25 FPS

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And on PC I need at least 80

royal zealot
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I used to play MCPE at <40 FPS for over a year 💀

coral bison
royal zealot
coral bison
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I have a good phone now which can run games at 120 hz but I still consider 25-30 fine for phone

coral bison
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Which has like 1 point in Geekbench lol

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2016 super budget device

graceful seal
vast spruce
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FSR4 looks better than DLSS4 in cases of small details

pale crescent
royal zealot
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"Longer"?
AMD introduced FSR 1.0 years after DLSS 1

pale crescent
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Just because they released it doesn’t mean they haven’t been doing it for longer… trust me.. they have…

vast spruce
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AMD has certainly been doing a ton on the software side of things for a long time now, there's a reason why AMD drivers have been better than Nvidia lately