Less IO on Modern Mobos

[hasty scroll]

Why is it that at least on the b-series mobos that we are getting less sata ports, less audio connectors, and less pcie connectors? Also the amount of usb 3.0 seems to have decreased with the tradeoff of a usb-c and usb 3.1 or higher port when at least looking at MSI B350 to the MSI B 850 mobos and with current Asrock and Gigabyte mobos.

[forest palm]

its to push people to buy the premium boards or to cut cost

[viscid crane]

premium boards dont have more sata ports (usually less), and they dont have more usb ports (usually faster)

[hasty scroll]

I hate how on even b series mobos, we only get four sata ports on matx in some instances, when it was more common to have six or even right back then.

[forest palm]

tbf sata drives on consumer pcs are kinda rare now

people typically just do m.2 and then have a NAS for all their bulk

thats what i do

[hasty scroll]

i hate how we have less options intead of more

it would not have had been that bad if we kept more pcie connectors on matx boards since atx usually already has enough still

but mini itx amd boards only have 2 sata connectors from the ones ive seen

[forest palm]

and also HBA cards do exist

i get it its a fabricated problem but there is a GOOD solution

[hasty scroll]

and even the budget intel h610 mini itx boards have 4 sata ports

[hasty scroll]

i wish we could get it on mini itx espically

since you only have one slot espically

[forest palm]

are u using it as a NAS or a main system?

because im pretty shure u dont need a GPU for a NAS

im not running one

but ig if ur SFF and want more storage

(even still where would u put it)

[hasty scroll]

not for a nas, but a main system

[forest palm]

u just got a mini ITX in a atx case or smthn?

[hasty scroll]

i was looking to go mini itx with a sff gpu and while having 2 slim dvd drives with with 2 2.5in hot swappable sata hdd/ssds in the front

which would make me need 4 sata ports

[forest palm]

you could get a internal usb dvd drive

[hasty scroll]

for burning and copying dvds while also having more expandable and a easier way to just transfer data in a more intergrated way

[forest palm]

i think those exist

[hasty scroll]

i know they do, but i was really looking for a more intergrated internal one

not by external means

[forest palm]

yea unfortuatly ur build is pretty uncommon

[hasty scroll]

the cheapest mini itx b850 board ive seen is already about 210 usd before tax

all that money yet i cant get more than 2 sata ports

[forest palm]

ur prob gonna have to go ROG STRIX for that connectivity

and gl getting those at a sane price

[hasty scroll]

and then theres intel with a 130 dollar h610 with 4 sata ports but their cpus run so hot that i wouldnt be able to cool it well with a lp cooler

and undercloking it that much is going to kill any performance

[hasty scroll]

man this sucks

[forest palm]

welcome to the life of a SFF pc builder

this is why i stuck with ATX

less problems

shure i cant bring my pc on a international trip

but i got parsec for that

[hasty scroll]

this is lowkey pretty cool 16 cores of zen 4 in a more affordable package

and its pretty low power for what it is

[viscid crane]

Limited PCIE, if that matters to you

[hasty scroll]

for a matx yeah

but this is still pretty sick

[viscid crane]

It’s because of the cpu

[hasty scroll]

cpus have less support for sata and pcie slots than they did in the past?

[viscid crane]

Mobile CPUs have less pcie lanes

[hasty scroll]

oh that mobile cpu was just a separate thing i saw online, but i meant desktops. sorry for confusion

[viscid crane]

Desktop CPUs have a decent amount of pcie

Am5 has 20 usable, i don’t know about lga 1851

[hasty scroll]

does the chipset these days really need four pcie lanes?

like do they even saturate that amount?

wait wasnt it 24 useable?

[viscid crane]

I think it’s 24 total