Can anyone help me pick between 2 builds

[mystic osprey]

Here are the links

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kx4TrM

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ckF64p

[midnight loom]

pick 4080 super build, have a good day

[mystic osprey]

Uhm okay

[cerulean trout]

No 50 series instead ?

[mystic osprey]

No

They are supposed to suck or something

[midnight loom]

what lol

the fan will suck air yeah, nothing else sucks anything

[mystic osprey]

Erm half the card probably runs of ai

[midnight loom]

no

its same thing as 40 series, just stronger

[mystic osprey]

Uh huh

They are cheap for a reason

[midnight loom]

theres a 5080 review out already, do you want to check?

can pass the link if u want

[mystic osprey]

Sure

[midnight loom]

https://youtu.be/xpzufsxtZpA

theres also a 5090 one. i dont remember how the 5080 video goes about native settings without any dlss features but this 5090 review has a native 4k setting on cyberpunk

https://youtu.be/lA8DphutMsY

[mystic osprey]

It’s only running and talking about ai generated frames

[midnight loom]

read my second post

[cerulean trout]

Runs on ai means nothing. 50 series will see improvement based on better software implementation and classic perfs albeit less so.

[cerulean trout]

What do you even have against ai generated frames ?

It is a mean to an end : displays shit nicely on your monitor

[midnight loom]

look at these in the video if u wanna skip framegen

[mystic osprey]

Not every games support dlss

[midnight loom]

listen, it does not run on ai

[midnight loom]

dlss is only a way to improve performance at the cost of slight visual quality loss, you dont need any of the features to run any game good

and dlss means like 5 things right now

only "ai" thing about dlss is framegen, whether its 2x-3x-4x

[mystic osprey]

Not getting an ai cards that’s final

[midnight loom]

are you listening at all?

[cerulean trout]

Very few dont. Those that dont often dont need it

[mystic osprey]

No

[cerulean trout]

How old are you ?

[midnight loom]

if you really think dlss stands for ai, 20 series and up all have dlss

including amd cars

but their "dlss" isnt named as dlss

[cerulean trout]

Any cards come with ai based generation now. Because its f-ing good. All RTXes, all AMDs

[midnight loom]

its trained with ai, it doesnt use ai in the gpu

you'd need a few server racks to truly run ai in a game properly

[cerulean trout]

Training a frame gen model still is called broadly AI in the consumer market buzz words unfortunately

Hence why either very young or older consumers tend to be upset about it whenever someone else is on the internet

[midnight loom]

im not even telling him to get 50 series cards, hes doing a build rn and 50 series cards come out at like end of jan if not middle of 2nd month

but atleast listen to what people who know these say when they talk

[midnight loom]

meanwhile its not even sensible to get 50 series cards since 40 series cards are quite cheap on used market

[cerulean trout]

In the US mainly 😭

[midnight loom]

and 50 series cards will be like $100-200+ over msrp

[midnight loom]

im in south-east europe and i can find a 4090 strix 600w model white color for $1400...

27% worse than 5090 for 35.3% price drop

and that is if youre lucky enough to get 5090 for msrp 😂

it costing 2k doesnt mean it wont be bought out in matter of minutes if not seconds

[molten jungle]

he straight up left

[midnight loom]

bro left his own post

[molten jungle]

how does dlss actually work tho

[midnight loom]

which one?

[midnight loom]

^

[molten jungle]

whatever they mean by this bs

[midnight loom]

marketing bullshit, nothing else.

[molten jungle]

is it some kinda driver-software side thing?

[midnight loom]

read what i wrote but with 100% literal meaning of it

[molten jungle]

So i dont really need to bother

[midnight loom]

with what

[molten jungle]

wondering about it

or whatever

[midnight loom]

yup

think of 50 series cards as "40 series cards but newer and stronger"

just like u should for every new generation of nvidia cards

[molten jungle]

But at the same price

if not a lil better

right?

[midnight loom]

listed msrp yes
real life prices will be 100 to 200 over it at "least"