Need help building a 3k pc

[vivid socket]

hi

[spare lichen]

yo

[vivid socket]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/X7p4MC

smt like this

[serene matrix]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/WJBdHW

a case that you can get in the Netherlands and took out the 4TB mp44 to go under 3k

also yeah the cpu is worth it

[vivid socket]

Sim, is this one better than the 4tb samsung 990 pro?

[serene matrix]

nah not better but you will not notice the difference

[spare lichen]

ya

its very over priced

[vivid socket]

🤔

[serene matrix]

yeah aint it cool

[spare lichen]

my god

[serene matrix]

the bios is updated and should work

worst case it has a qflash+ button

also its the wrong place to take the pic

[vivid socket]

a what?

[serene matrix]

the bios should be up to date so you do not need to worry about that

[spare lichen]

just loook out for that

[serene matrix]

worst case its not hard to do

[spare lichen]

pirate windows

[vivid socket]

what about a different motherboard

[serene matrix]

why?

[spare lichen]

noo

[vivid socket]

What do you even look for when choosing a motherboard

[serene matrix]

that it works

[vivid socket]

besides compatiility

[spare lichen]

4 dims am 5

[vivid socket]

lol

[spare lichen]

2 nvme drives

[serene matrix]

good thing i choose that mobo for having 3 nvme slots

only real difference for am5 for anything thats not A line mobos is features, a b650 and x870e have the same performance

[spare lichen]

4.0 gen lane

10gb ethernet

[vivid socket]

i dont have ethernet connection

wifi only

[spare lichen]

then wifi

[serene matrix]

pleas do not use wifi

ffs

[spare lichen]

get ethernet

[serene matrix]

well wifi is fine but ethernet will always be better

[vivid socket]

I cant just drill through my floor to get ethernet cable 😭

[spare lichen]

you can

may you

[vivid socket]

Bad idea

[spare lichen]

why

[vivid socket]

Because this floor is very thick

And my room is directly above the living room

[spare lichen]

rent a drill

[vivid socket]

Ethernet is on the other side of the house

[spare lichen]

run a long cable

[vivid socket]

So id need to open up the floor to pull a cable through halfway across the house

[spare lichen]

yes

or move your router

[vivid socket]

its connected to fiber optic via the street

Cant just move it

would be the same problem

[spare lichen]

mmmmm

[serene matrix]

well then its wifi it will have to be

[spare lichen]

yea

move your pc

what are you planing to do with your pc

[serene matrix]

xd

[vivid socket]

lmao

nah

Mostly work and gaming

[serene matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-25407007

[vivid socket]

work = game developing in roblox studio and blender

[spare lichen]

you have a job

[vivid socket]

yeah

[spare lichen]

how old are you

[vivid socket]

20

[spare lichen]

oh i am 11

[vivid socket]

You know that anyone under 13 has to get banned from discord

By law

[spare lichen]

nah i am lying i am 14

its not that deep

pls

[serene matrix]

ffs you never said blender, good thing i went nvidia

[spare lichen]

lmao

[serene matrix]

you know if anyone reported that, high chance you would be get perma banned btw.

[spare lichen]

want my id

my mom is calling me for dinner

[vivid socket]

Whats the advantage of nvidia? Please note that the models i make are pretty basic lol so for blender specifically it wont make much difference

[serene matrix]

well nvidia NUKES amd in blender

[spare lichen]

show him a bench mark

[serene matrix]

tbh i would go just go nvidia and not have to worry about it

https://opendata.blender.org/benchmarks/query/?compute_type=OPTIX&blender_version=3.4.0&group_by=device_name

[spare lichen]

nvidia is very good for new pc people

when you going to buy it

[vivid socket]

okay

4080s it is then

[spare lichen]

ya

[vivid socket]

How does the Asus rog strix b650e-f am5 compare to the gigabyte b650 eagle ax?

@serene matrix

[serene matrix]

in what way?

[vivid socket]

its 50$ difference

and they seem practically the same

So like whats the difference

ah nvm

Anyway thanks for your help

[serene matrix]

one costs more

[vivid socket]

Ill look into where im gonna let this be built

Smt like this, all black should be good

[vivid socket]

It is easy to buy components and let it be built by the same company

[serene matrix]

well its not the same list but its fine, the cpu cooler is very overkill but meh.

[vivid socket]

its only like 50 bucks more or smt

For it to then be overkill sounds good to me ngl

if it stays super cool that means its lifespan will be prolonged and performance will be better right

[vivid socket]

So then why not spend a little extra for an "overkill"

[vivid socket]

oh lol

[serene matrix]

since the cooler i already had was overkill in a better way

[vivid socket]

i just like the all black look 😭

[serene matrix]

also no performance difference, but just go with it, its fine

[serene matrix]

its fine

[vivid socket]

and im more familiar with noctua

prefer to buy known brands

[serene matrix]

noctua make some of the best fans money can buy but they are very overpriced for what theyare

[vivid socket]

hm

[serene matrix]

if you were making a budget pc then i would be trying to get you to chose the same parts as in the pcpartpicker list but since its a 3k euro pc its a bit of a different story, when going at these high prices spending a bit more on looks is fine

[spare lichen]

you can ge5t windows free

[serene matrix]

watermark

[spare lichen]

NOOOO

GET IT ON A USB

[serene matrix]

what?

[spare lichen]

DOWLOAD A WINDOWS ONTO A usb from a compuer with windows

[serene matrix]

you still need a key for the new pc

[spare lichen]

ya

ask some one with a pc

[carmine nimbus]

bruh

I know you said you're allegedly 14 after that

I take it as an allegation

But you reflect your age

[serene matrix]

well yeah ofc

you still get the watermark and harder to customize

yeah from the official Microsoft website

[spare lichen]

JUST GET A REAL key

save yourself the hasel

[serene matrix]

yeah

[carmine nimbus]

and spend 180 dollars ?

[autumn beacon]

Yes, because 1) piracy is against the Terms of Service, 2) you must legally abide by the Microsoft EULA if you choose to use Windows or other Microsoft software, and 3) most importantly, developers deserve to be paid.

[vivid socket]

i agree + watermark ugly

[spare lichen]

Agreed

[spare lichen]

Have you ordered tour parts

[serene matrix]

why did you say that to a mod

[stoic fossil]

I DIDN'T NOTICE

[neat ermine]

Shhhhh

[vivid socket]

So the part list im most likely going for is this, still not sure wether to go for inno3d, asus tuf or gigabyte for graphics card though. Is there any difference at all between them?

And does anyone have good monitor recommendations? Preferably oled 1440p/4k

[mystic sinew]

no difference

[vivid socket]

Alr, i guess ill pick the one that looks best then

[mystic sinew]

it's about the same performance of like €40 coolers but noctua support is usually superb

[vivid socket]

So about that

Why would one pick a cheap watercooler compared to a noctua aircooler?

[mystic sinew]

because cheap, noctua stuff is like $100+

stuff from thermalright (for example) has been tested by numerous reviewers, and they have found thermalright to make some very good products for less than the competition

[vivid socket]

Are there any drawbacks to having it be aircooled?

like why go aio or air cooled

[serene matrix]

AIO for looks

air cooled for about everything else

unless you plan to do very high level OC there is no great reason to get a AIO for ryzen

[vivid socket]

i dont plan to overclock anything at all at this point in time

maybe in the future but

eh

no clue how i would do that

[serene matrix]

yeah go air cooled

no risk of leaks or milk making

[vivid socket]

milk making?

[serene matrix]

this is what my AIO did

[vivid socket]

oh wtf

[serene matrix]

why i very much recommend against AIOs

[vivid socket]

is a x870 motherboard worth it for the ryzen 7 9800x3d or should i go for b650?

[serene matrix]

b650 eagle ax is my go to motherboard

[neat ermine]

The motherboard does not affect performance

[vivid socket]

im considering the msi mag b650 tomahawk or the asus rog strix b650e-f as those color schemes would match my all black theme better

was just wondering about x870

as they seem quite more expensive

[neat ermine]

So buy based on the features you need (e.g. WiFi, m.2 slots, usb, pcie, etc)

[neat ermine]

Because it’s x series and the latest generation of am5 boards

[vivid socket]

yeah they were launched a few months ago right?

[neat ermine]

Unless you know you need it, you don’t

[vivid socket]

They dont seem that much different performance wise

alr

[neat ermine]

Correct, with ryzen 9000

[neat ermine]

The motherboard does not affect performance

[vivid socket]

feature wise*

[neat ermine]

Yes, they wouldn’t be much different than x670

[vivid socket]

What would be a good looking black stealthy case that can fit 4080 super well?

[vivid socket]

h7

[vivid socket]

Made a few adjustments, looks pretty good to me 🤔

all black build

kinda split between the gigabyte and asus tuf 4080 super

[tribal needle]

Do you do anything CPU intensive for work? I know you said Blender but you can do GPU rendering I think

If you do CPU intensive stuff it might be worth waiting for the 9900X3D, no telling how that will perform really

[vivid socket]

nah nothing that intensive

i currently have a i7-11370H in my laptop, the 9800x3d should be a huge upgrade right?

[mystic sinew]

yes

[vivid socket]

What would be a good monitor to go with this build? Im kinda in the market for a 1440p oled but they can get pretty pricey

[mystic sinew]

which country?

oh nl

[autumn beacon]

RTINGs is love; is life. ❤️ (Great place to start researching different monitors.)
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

[mystic sinew]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/zKfxFT/gigabyte-aorus-fo27q2-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-aorus-fo27q2

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/7LzXsY/aoc-agon-pro-ag276qzd2-267-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-ag276qzd2

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/BR7scf/msi-mag-271qpx-qd-oled-e2-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-mag-271qpx-qd-oled-e2

gigglebyte Q2 should be similar to the q3, minus refresh rate

similarly mag 271qpx is similar to e2, minus the refresh rate

iirc the agon doesn't have dp2.0

[vivid socket]

Thanks

Will look into these

[vivid socket]

gigglebyte

[serene matrix]

yeah?

[stoic fossil]

Didn't even that was a rule 😭

[serene matrix]

breaking ToS?

also getting scammed or your banking info getting leaked

[vivid socket]

Maybe all black stealth build is a bit too much black for me

[vivid socket]

i cant resist

[vivid socket]

• NZXT H7 2024 case

• 4x these fans

[vivid socket]

ik this is very overkill

but it looks so good

[vivid socket]

This seems like a pretty good option

[strong zealot]

Psu is very mediocre

[stoic fossil]

250€ for a aio 😭

[vivid socket]

What should i get instead?

[vivid socket]

Originally i wanted to go with the noctua chromax black but aio does simply look better 😅

[stoic fossil]

are you made of money??

AIOs are 100$ max 😭

[mossy flint]

Noctua

[cobalt viper]

Noctua

Can I see where the build is at currently?

This person building the pc seems a bit strange

Does anyone know what he's using the pc for?

Primarily

[vivid socket]

💀

Its my first time putting together a pc

Imma have it built by a company because i dont trust myself

[vivid socket]

@cobalt viper

Im gonna use it primarily for roblox game development and some gaming

I just want soemthing thats gonna last me 5+ years

And its all business expense

[cobalt viper]

Yeah fair

That's fine

I'd reccomend building yourself but yeah

[vivid socket]

I dont want to screw it up with these expensive parts

[cobalt viper]

Fair

[vivid socket]

And it only costs 250€ for them to build it for me

[cobalt viper]

Only???

[vivid socket]

Screwing up would probably be more expensive

[cobalt viper]

Screwing up is hard

Saying only 250 is insane

[vivid socket]

206 with tax deduction

[cobalt viper]

I'd say literally bud it yourself and just be careful

[vivid socket]

It lowerts my income taxes

Soo

[vivid socket]

Eh ive made up my mind

Because building it costs me probably 5+ hours

• additional research

[cobalt viper]

Rip

You do you

[vivid socket]

😅

Why is everyone so pro noctua

[serene matrix]

Pro noctua?

[vivid socket]

This looks like a pretty good cooler to me and it looks nice

So why go noctua?

[serene matrix]

Noctua make the best stuff but they costs way way more then they are worth

[vivid socket]

Hm

[serene matrix]

Noctua make some of the best if not the best coolers you can get

[vivid socket]

But the nzxt is good too right?

[serene matrix]

No

[vivid socket]

Really?

[serene matrix]

300$ for a cooler that is as good as a 35$ one

[vivid socket]

Fr?

Ah thats bad

I dont really like the look of a big air cooler

Thats my prime issue

All these pcs i see on internet have cool looking watercooling

[serene matrix]

Keep in mind the cpu uses like 80w when gaming

You have no need for any insane cooling

[vivid socket]

But then this would do just fine right?

Its a little expensive yes

[serene matrix]

Just go with some one other then nzxt

[vivid socket]

What do you recommend?

[serene matrix]

Thermalright or arctic liquid freezer III

Any thermalright aio or the lf III

[vivid socket]

Alr

[strong zealot]

Let me see the options

[strong zealot]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/nhC48d/msi-mpg-a850g-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a850g-pcie5

[vivid socket]

What is better about this one?

Compared to the bequiet pp 12m

[strong zealot]

Different platform

CSZ> HEC

[vivid socket]

Ah

Idk anything about that

Rip

[mossy flint]

I mean it has a thermomater

The price makes sense

[serene matrix]

no?

[stoic fossil]

No bruh 😭

[serene matrix]

a 35$ one does the same for the same noise or even lower

[stoic fossil]

Exactly

You don't stare at the PC dude

You look at the moniter

[mossy flint]

Abd some people want to see there thermomater

The radiator is 170

So 170 for a quality aio and the thermomator

[serene matrix]

quality

[strong zealot]

Nzxt one isnt quality

Far away

If its not like for 55$ 360

[mossy flint]

I didnt look at brands

I see that i am now wrong

🤦‍♂️

[serene matrix]

also this is a thing https://www.amazon.com/ALSEYE-Temperature-Displayed-Compatible-LGA1700/dp/B09PTGF51P?th=1

deep cool also made one but you know, umm yeaaah no more deep cool in the us so thats a no go

[strong zealot]

66$ for that

Piece

Of

Nah

[mossy flint]

Real

[strong zealot]

a620 pro se

No LCD but cools atleast

[mossy flint]

Why does a tower cooler have a temp guage

[serene matrix]

well yeah thats kinde the point of that cooler

[serene matrix]

same reason why a AIO has a temp display

[mossy flint]

But its a tower cooler😭

[serene matrix]

yeah?

what about it

[mossy flint]

It looks awful

[serene matrix]

it looks the same as a AIO with a temp display to me

[mossy flint]

Aio coolers arnt bricks on the cpu

Its a box with a temp guage

[mystic sinew]

thermalright has a billion 360mm options for less than 150

[mossy flint]

Dude there like 60 bucks

[vivid socket]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hdBsh7

Current build

Thoughts?

i added everything i plan on adding including the monitors and case fans

[strong zealot]

Wait psu is 149$

How

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/phVmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-tt-premium-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-4

[vivid socket]

..

[strong zealot]

Netherlands

Alrighty thats why

[vivid socket]

oh i forgot to set my country to nl

was on us

yeah you too

[vivid socket]

alr changed it to this one

idk to me power supply is just little box that gives power

wether you take some msi, bequiet, thermaltake idk

as long as its black, 850w, modular and has a 80 gold sticker on it or smt lmao

[strong zealot]

nono

Its badly priced in netherlands

[vivid socket]

lmao

other than the psu price

is there anything i should consider/improve

?

[vivid socket]

Im about to order this

thoughts?

Im aware the motherboard is not the best, but it should do just fine for my use

[stoic fossil]

WAIT FOR 5080

Should be out this month

Or atleast reduce 4080 price

[serene matrix]

the 4080 is no longer made and has not been made for a while

[vivid socket]

Not worth it to me

Gonna be too expensive + ill have to wait at least 2 maybe 3 more months

4080 is already overkill for my use

[stoic fossil]

It launchs this month

[stoic fossil]

Then wait for Rx 9070 XT

[vivid socket]

Yes, then theyre gonna ship it, then the bitcoin farmers are gonna purchase them

So at least 1 month

I dont want to wait for that if its only gonna bring me a new gen card whike the current gen is more than enough

[vivid socket]

Same thing but worse?

4080 is a very decent card and i can always upgrade in 2/3 years time 🤷‍♂️

[mossy flint]

There is no 4080s...

Or reduced prices with 40 series cards...

And good luck getting a 5080 on release

You better be staying up on amazon or newegg waiting to buy it