#New build or prebuild for 1000 dollars or less

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gaunt sinew
fringe ibex
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?

unique rock
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he wants performance so prob not go with nvidia

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AMD is better price to performance for a budget of 1k

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its also worth it getting an better cpu since ur gpu doesnt have to be to beefy for 1080p

unique rock
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if you have a few extra bucks to spend tho id reccomend getting a little better PSU, and an case with more fans

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you might have to downgrade to a 5 7500f or 5 7600 to stay in budget

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still solid cpus tho

gaunt sinew
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nvidia has an edge for encoding

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also, deepcool is still cooked in the us rn

unique rock
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Oh i didnt see the streaming part

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Yh go with the 4070 xd mb

dense phoenix
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are x3ds that much worse for streaming?
otherwise a 5700x3d would be cheaper, more powerful and u save some more money with mobo + RAM

unique rock
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true but youll be stuck with an am4 board

dense phoenix
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with a 5700x3d that is just marginally slower than even the 9800x3d i wouldnt midn that at all, even tho am5 will last until 2027, its very likely u can skip it altogether

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provided, thats a bit gambling that the followup or competitors have good platforms, but by the time that CPU isnt enough, am5 boards and ddr5 will be a LOT cheaper

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and with all the money u save right now while getting much much more performance, i'd be more than willing to take that fairly minor gamble.

unique rock
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damn bro now ur making me hesitate on my own new build

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i wanted to go 5 7500f but now i might go 7 5700x3d

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tbh is the 7 5700x3d really more powerfull then even an 5 7600x

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im watching some benchmarks rn and 5 7600x is getting better scores for most games

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it is cheaper tho bruh now im back to square 1

ornate stream
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7600x is on am5 if i am not mistaken aka its a better platform to go onto, my advice is to go am5 if you want to future proof your pc

unique rock
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but if i go am4 5 5700x3d i might be able to skip am5

fringe ibex
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so what do i do then?? lol

ornate stream
unique rock
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am4 is cheaper then am5

ornate stream
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yeh true

fringe ibex
unique rock
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tbh its ur own choice

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im also not sure now

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i save like 30 bucks

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i dont know man xd

fringe ibex
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lol

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alr

unique rock
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Im gonna go with am5

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I just want to be on the new platform

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For more fps per dollar go am4

dense phoenix
# fringe ibex so what do i do then?? lol

both options are fine.
with a 5700x3d and AM4 you will be cheaper right now, a lot actually, about 200-250 bucks depending on the exact components.
u will also get more FPS and dont need that big of a PSU, which might also save 10-20 bucks more, but lets ignore that.
The plan here is to skip AM5 and buil a whole new PC in 4-7 years. (its always tough to predict the future)
and the saved money can either go into your next PC, or u just have it if sth in ur life goes wrong.

with a 7600x or similar and AM5 u will have to spend more right now. u will have less FPS, the only thing going for u is the RAM speed, which doesnt matter, since ur CPU will be worse than the 5700x3d while the ram on am5 is double the price.
the plan here is to get a solid build that might be 10-20 FPS lower than the other, but when prices of those 7800x3d, 9800x3d etc drop or maybe they release a 7700x3d or 9700x3d for 250-300 bucks u get that in a few years.
by the time u upgrade, this PC will be better, but u will also have spent 400-700 bucks more on it and have to sell your old CPU.
now this one will be faster and take advantage of the RAM speed, although that doesnt impact performance that much.

another thing is, with am4 a 500W PSU will be enough, if u go with AM5 u will be better off getting a 600 or maybe even 650W PSU.
that 500W definitely wont be enough once u get ur PC after this one, but the 6X0W might be. but this is much more speculative, so dont bank on this.

dense phoenix
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7500f?

unique rock
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yeah

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b550 = 100, b650 = 120,

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7 5700x3d = 180, 5 7500f = 150

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ram = 70 - 115

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idk i might save more on am4 but still i want am5

dense phoenix
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wtf are those prices that s totally different than where i live xD

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also, what features of b550 are important to u?

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but 7500f is also what i would go with if i were to build am5, u know ur going to get an x3d in the next few years anyway so spending extra for a very temporary CPU seems really ineffective

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at that point u might as well go with a 7800x but at that point ur not upgrading on am5 anymore nad can go with the 5700x3d again xD

unique rock
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i mean am4 prob would be better price to performance for me but i just want am5 it makes me happier

dense phoenix
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fair

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gives a feel of security

unique rock
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yeah i just want the newest platform

dense phoenix
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i got an amazing deal on a 4070 but im still second guessing myself just bc its nvidia and wouldnt i be happier if i went with an AMD card

unique rock
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do you need the extra functions nvidia has to offer

dense phoenix
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no

unique rock
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encoder rtx dlss etc

dense phoenix
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but it was a 480€ deal when it was around 600€ usually

unique rock
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i mean in my country 4070 is the same price as 7800xt

dense phoenix
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was in march this year

unique rock
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nice

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i mean idk ab ur amd prices but id go with the 7800xt if its the same price

dense phoenix
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still there were below 500€ amd cards that would have been better i think

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if just there was like a 7800 GRE

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so excited for the 7650 GRE

unique rock
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7700xt is very good

unique rock
dense phoenix
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should be CES idk right now

unique rock
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im so excited im litterly gonna order like right now

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any thought or tips?

dense phoenix
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but im not gonna recommend anything but 5700x3d and 7650 GRE or 7900 GRE afterwards xD

unique rock
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lets hope the 7650 gre has more then 8 gigs vram, thats the reason i skipped the 7600 immediatly

dense phoenix
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iirc there will be a 8 and 12 gig version which is at least awkward

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not getting 16 gigs when new games are developed around 16 definitely isnt satisfying

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i guess u insist on AiO cooling and b650?

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patriot p310 woould be a much cheaper nvme, u almost get the 2tb version

unique rock
dense phoenix
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are u transferring data from 1 drive to another constantly?

unique rock
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no maybe on occasion but not regulary

dense phoenix
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then u shouldnt even ask that question

unique rock
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patriot p310 dont get sold in my country

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atleast not the 2tb version

dense phoenix
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where do u live?

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if i may ask

unique rock
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Netherlands

dense phoenix
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ah ok, thought ur US sine u made the pcpp US 😄

unique rock
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wait maybe it does get sold

dense phoenix
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u got any NL price comparison websites for me?

unique rock
dense phoenix
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pcpp is awful for not US market

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even in US its often missing good offers

unique rock
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tweakers is pretty dang good

dense phoenix
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got it

unique rock
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btw the sn850 is 78 euros for me

dense phoenix
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few days ago had to go through a website in brazilian portugese bc even google translate refused to work xD

unique rock
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these are the cheapest 2tb nvme drives

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btw it might be worth noting im stripping 1.2tbs out of my current pc and a 1tb hardrive so with a new m.2 i have 1tb m.2, 1.2tb ssd sata and 1 1tb 7200rpm

dense phoenix
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all depends on needs.
for me that would be way too much, for others thats way too little

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really only u know if u need 2 tb

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but just go with the cheapest

unique rock
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i dont

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should i get an cheaper m.2?

dense phoenix
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unless ur a content creator that also has gigabit internet

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writing and reading speed doesnt matter bc ur always boudn otherwise

unique rock
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we are thinking of upgrading to 1 gigabit

dense phoenix
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even then, are u downloading the entire day?

unique rock
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nope

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but

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i do want to start content creation

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since i have some connections with a lot of subs i think i can make it work

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people with a lot of subs*

dense phoenix
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the kingston NV2 writes at 2100 MB/s

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thats 10 gigabit

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i think ur fine

unique rock
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alr so i should go 1tb cheapest nvme drive

dense phoenix
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yep thats the kingston

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if ur downloading a terabyte at drive speed that would be les sthan 2 minutes

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but honestly, ur CPU cant even process a download that fast

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most CPUs cant

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neither does the internet speed

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so even if ur transferring fro manother NVME drive, u wont even make use of the drive speed

unique rock
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yeah rn im bound 100 mbit anyway but im trying to convince my paps into upgrading since it aint that much more per month

dense phoenix
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the other thing that matters is read speed, which also doesnt really matter, bc u dont need data from ur drive directly in ur CPU, thats why u have ram

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and the ram prepares all the data u might need in ur cpu

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lass than 0.1% of data if any is needed and even then it doesnt give u better fps

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but at most u have slightly faster load speeds by like 2 frames

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within a level, zone, area or sth, all the data is already in the ram

unique rock
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alr kingston it is

dense phoenix
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other things u can save money on is going with an a 620, a CPU fan instead of AiO and holy shit u dont need a 850w PSU 😄

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that one will even draw more power as PSUs are most effective at high loads

unique rock
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isnt an a620 like not overclockable and stuff

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i do want an AiO tho

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also what psu and cable extensions would you reccomend

dense phoenix
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arctic freezer 36, thermalright assassin, thermalright peerless assassin for cpu cooler then
all those are dirt cheap and will cool any am5 cpu currently on the market

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most likely any that will be released

unique rock
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Thermalright aqua elite v3 is also very cheap

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or are the ones u listed better performers

dense phoenix
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doesnt matter, ur cpu has a temperaturelimit, most amd CPUS have 95°C
lower temps dont lead to better performance or longer lifespan

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also ur room wont heat up more, since the temperature is just somewhere else

unique rock
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tbh i could use a room heater en xd

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rn

dense phoenix
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the wattage determines the temperature thats going into ur room, not the CPU temp

dense phoenix
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😄

unique rock
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true xd

dense phoenix
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with PSUs, unless u have everything in your head (which almost noone does)

unique rock
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but i think the thermalright aqua elite will work fine for me it its only 65 euros and it looks good

dense phoenix
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here comes the great process of PSU chosing

unique rock
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do you think c tier is sufficient?

dense phoenix
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for now, yes

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but since ur plan is to upgrade anyway

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i'd go with 550-600W B tier

unique rock
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uhh do you really think 600w is enough?

dense phoenix
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or go with 500-550 C and upgrade when u upgrade CPU/GPU

unique rock
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i might overclock

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down the line

dense phoenix
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600 B tier then

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and no need to upgrade

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when u get better cpu/gpu

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btw for a620 its just CPU OC thats disabled, u can still OC memory
and so far, overclocking with x3ds isnt really a thing either

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the 7950x3d is the first one iirc

unique rock
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70

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euro

dense phoenix
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definitely solid

unique rock
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gigabyte aorus was 90

dense phoenix
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unless a PSU expert spawns in here, i wouldnt make the effort of going through tierlists to save 5 bucks

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also shouldnt we make a seperate thread anyway, we're kinda stealing OPs post xD

unique rock
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idk

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he can read along to pick his psu xd

dense phoenix
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not the same country, not the same specs, DEFINITELY not the same PSU xD

unique rock
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thats true xd

dense phoenix
fringe ibex
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thank y'all