$2000 pre built or DIY

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friend is buying an NZXT prebuit with the best parts (excluding prime) and I was wondering if its better to just build one instead. The total comes out to $2000 but think I found a better one (possibly). Microcenter has a bundle for a fall sale right now and I think it is a good deal because it's $100 off if you bought them individually. I linked the bundle, PC Part-picker, and the pre-built below. Suggestions/changes are welcome...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LdwQ34

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006709/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-asus-b650-e-tuf-gaming.-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

https://nzxt.com/product/player-two

[round sky]

building is always going to be infinitely better for price/performance

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yeah

Just wanted to make sure

Is my list good enough

Bro plays everything but casually

So I’m thinking med-high graphics in games like COD, fort, roblox (lmao) and some other things

He’s got a good monitor so that doesn’t matter atm unless he wants to upgrade to 2k/4k

[rich abyss]

if you want white id pay the extra $50 to upgrade to the white rog strix mobo

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He’s getting black

[rich abyss]

oh

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personally I like white cuz it’s cleaner but you see dust better

[rich abyss]

well spend $600 on that combo and then like 1k on a 4080 super or an xtx

that leaves $600 for everything else

or wait math isnt mathing

pay the $10 that microcenter offers to upgrade from 32gb to 48gb of ram

[shut tangle]

They do that?

Hoooold up I never knew

[rich abyss]

I believe they still do

as of like a month ago they did

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Interesting.

Only $10

[rich abyss]

it is

and you wanted a fishtank case or does it matter?

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I love the 216 cuz of the big ahh case fans and space for cable management so ig that’s what I suggest to everybody

But if you want to suggest another case u can

[rich abyss]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dHMNL9

a perfect $2k build

it might actually need a 240mm aio now that im looking

[round sky]

7800x3ds run surprisingly cool, pa120se should be fine

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6GB less vram for something $130 more expensive and DLSS that he won’t use?

[rich abyss]

you could swap out for xtx

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How hard are AIOs to install

never did one

[rich abyss]

as i said here

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ye

[round sky]

not really

[rich abyss]

i prefer the 4080 super for the sake of raytracing performance

[round sky]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7FNmfy

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RT in Roblox 😎

[rich abyss]

well if hes using this for just roblox he should save $1800 and buy a dell optiplex

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That’s $80 over

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lol

[round sky]

...and a dgpu

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DLSS and RT are the two qualities that make nvidia cards actually good

But other than that they’re fine

But if he ain’t gonna use them what’s the point

[rich abyss]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KzThDZ

if you want amd card theres your new build

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Could I swap the fans out for arctic 14s

[rich abyss]

yes any 120mm

it might look a tiny bit awkward with only having rgb on the front 2 fans. how i would do it is at this point go for a 0 rgb build

swap the case for something no rgb

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lmao

I hate RGB but that’s just me

[rich abyss]

so then id go for a no rgb build

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did I not already

[rich abyss]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mCR3cH

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Why tf the RGB cost less than no RGB case

By $10

But still

[rich abyss]

different cases

fractal is a higher quality of case

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For lian Li

Gang where the air circulation at in the Fractal cases

[rich abyss]

this build is your perfect no rgb all black performace under 2k amd build

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They be scamming their consumer base

[rich abyss]

the same places

theyre both mid towers

same shit

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Same places

[rich abyss]

a little bit more air circulation will make 0 actual difference especially if youre using an AIO

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I forgot about that

Alrighty then

[rich abyss]

id have someone else double check fan sizes and stuff and compatibility

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I shall be thanking you now and get going

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I’ll do allat

[rich abyss]

just run it by someone else first have them double check everything

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Everyone in this server is a bitch to me

So I’ll have the 1 person I know irl check

Thanks

[rich abyss]

this case is also really nice

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4000D yea?

[rich abyss]

and this one i have for my second pc so i can vouch

if you swapped for that i could tell you 100% that everything would fit

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do vertical mounts look good

[rich abyss]

yes

they offer minimal performance bennifit

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they cost what

[rich abyss]

my main pc has a vert mount in it

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20

40

[rich abyss]

50-60 for a good one

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I was in the ballpark

[rich abyss]

theyre not needed

definently add at least a sag support bracket though

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They look so good tho

yeah

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unique and cool points

[rugged fjord]

In which they automatically trash on the worth of the RAM by using a 5200MT/s kit.

[rich abyss]

its 6000 no>

[rugged fjord]

Just stick with the 32GB kit.

[rich abyss]

i just put 5200 in the list

cause i saw it first

and ram speed is a myth

its so negligable

[rugged fjord]

No, the “upgrade” in RAM is more of a downgrade.

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shouldn’t the bundle include 6000Mhz

[rich abyss]

its 800 mhz thats literally nothing

tell me sir, what does higher ram speed actually do?

[rugged fjord]

32GB uses 6000/32. 48GB kit uses 5200/40.

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Tf

[rich abyss]

either way i dont even think theyre doing the upgrade anymore

so it would be stuck at 32 which is fine

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6000, 5200, tomato tomato

[rugged fjord]

So why did you even mention it if they don’t even offer the option?

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I have 3200 and it’s fast enough

[rich abyss]

because i thought they did

i realize now they dont

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But its not for me

Lmao

[rich abyss]

i have 3200 on one of my pcs 4000 on the other and my laptop gets 8400 for some reason

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Ok thanks

Appreciate it

@rugged fjord be typing up an essay or sum

[rich abyss]

fr i can see that thing

bros citing his sources in MLA 9

[shut tangle]

Ok imma close this now

Talk now mt or forever hold your peace

[rugged fjord]

MCLK:FCLK ratio on AM5 runs best with 6000MHz RAM. It will cripple your performance being desynced (i.e, using 5200MHz RAM).

There’s your short answer.

[rich abyss]

alright

goodnight

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Night

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I was gonna use the ram that came with the bundle anyway

[rugged fjord]

Which is fine. It’s a 6000/32 kit. The reason why we talked about the RAM was because that splooty person suggested a nonexistent RAM upgrade.

[rich abyss]

becasue it was very existant a month ago

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Bro got opps now

[rich abyss]

i literally bought an r7 combo with it

https://tenor.com/view/drive-by-guns-shots-gif-13421965

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spinning the block

[rugged fjord]

It doesn’t exist now. Don’t give him incorrect and outdated info.

[rich abyss]

i have better things to do than to go to microcenter and check tyvm

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I didn’t see it on the site so I was a bit confused

I was like- do I need to ask them in person?

[rich abyss]

it was there thats my bad

microcenter loves to change there stuff

i remmeber when the 7800x3d combo was only 450-500

[rugged fjord]

At least double check before giving him info.

[rich abyss]

nah youre fine

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they be getting greedy 👺

Thanks both of you