Is my laptop GPU dead? I've got tons of pink lines. In non-GPU display mode (via BIOS config), it says it's fine after a disable and then a very long enable
#GPU dead?
hidden hazel
halcyon summit
Yup, it's dead
Either that, or the display cable is dead
In other words
If you switch to iGPU, do the pink lines remain?
hidden hazel
No
It even says the discrete GPU's running fine as shown in the pic when I'm in iGPU mode
So I'm quite unsure how to interpret these mixed signals
halcyon summit
It even says the discrete GPU's running fine as shown in the pic when I'm in iGP...
Okay so
- The GPU is dead
- The dead corpse of that GPU still has enough life to fool the paramedic
hidden hazel
😂
halcyon summit
What happened most likely is that it literally overheated and died
The question then becomes
How old is the laptop, and when did you last clean it?
hidden hazel
Yea, whoever applied the thermal paste did an extremely bad job and it spilled over to the sides and probably cooked it over the last 3-4 years that my cousin used it. I just cleaned it and reapplied thermal paste. It's running much cooler now (like half the temp on the CPU from 80C to 40C)
hidden hazel
Are there any ways I can ensure that it's dead dead and I can't repair it?
halcyon summit
Are there any ways I can ensure that it's dead dead and I can't repair it?
The pink lines say it's dead dead
And you can't repair it because it's soldered to the motherboard
hidden hazel
And you can't repair it because it's soldered to the motherboard
Yea unfortunately not
Oh one thing, those pink lines aren't stable
cold oyster
Nothing really here that can be done, the quote from the technician is probably high enough to get you a new laptop anyway
halcyon summit
Oh one thing, those pink lines aren't stable
Yeah that's expected in this scenario
hidden hazel
Ah, unfortunate
Yea ok, I guess I'll just have to use this laptop for its CPU only then
halcyon summit
Nothing really here that can be done, the quote from the technician is probably ...
Yup, the repair would entail an entire new motherboard
halcyon summit
Yea ok, I guess I'll just have to use this laptop for its CPU only then
Yeah
It's now an office laptop
Also just in case
hidden hazel
I presume the motherboard would cost too much cuz that's the biggest component containing both the CPU and GPU
cold oyster
Yup, the repair would entail an entire new motherboard
assuming they're available, if this thing needs to be taken under the soldering iron the quote will be even higher
halcyon summit
Tell your cousin to never use laptops on bed or couch without a book beneath them
Might just save them from another one of these scenarios
hidden hazel
Hate that companies solder everything
halcyon summit
I presume the motherboard would cost too much cuz that's the biggest component c...
Eeexactly
Not to mention old CPU and GPU
hidden hazel
Yea, I've told him numerous times. He's living in a poor situation so airflow's quite difficult too. I've told him many times about the bed and couch
Some ppl just don't listen yenno
halcyon summit
Ugh
halcyon summit
assuming they're available, if this thing needs to be taken under the soldering ...
It's basically unrepairium
There is a reason I keep telling people to get Framework Laptops
Nobody listens and then they spend thousands on new laptops all the time
~<
hidden hazel
I'm actually 50/50 on them. They still in an unaffordable range for lots of ppl
Like my non-GPU reasonable version is 2k+
I could have 2-3 cheap laptops for family members for that price
hidden hazel
Not the same situation of course but sometimes you just gotta make financially smart decisions
halcyon summit
A fix like this wouldn't be "new $1200 laptop", but "new $450 module"
cold oyster
Getting a framework laptop does also imply that you're comfortable poking around in it on your own.
My general recommendation is to just do a desktop if you want to go high end and get a refurbished laptop for school/work stuff on the go.
halcyon summit
Basically what I did ↑
hidden hazel
Getting a framework laptop does also imply that you're comfortable poking around...
This is practically me. Not many ppl need a GPU on the go
cold oyster
Very true, I could do my editing and stuff on just an iGPU of a decent work laptop as long as I just do the rendering on my main rig.
halcyon summit
...and then dropped the laptop onto pavement and had its hinges break on me...
(I blame Lenovo for thinking two small screws were enough to keep it in tact though)
hidden hazel
How's cloud for rendering?
I'm a website software dev. Don't really even require GPU but I'm interested to hear what cloud has to offer when it comes to GPU usage
I even see my friends using cloud resources to play GPU intensisve games locally
halcyon summit
Uhm...
It's...
Expensive I think?
I mean
I'll be fair
iGPUs nowadays are really good
hidden hazel
I guess you're competing with the likes of the giants to use GPU resources
cold oyster
How's cloud for rendering?
I don't think it's really that good of an idea, I would basically have to send all the footage over the web to be encoded on your end and then have it sent back to me.
halcyon summit
Yeah
hidden hazel
Yeah ok
halcyon summit
But like
If you have a desktop, you can SSH into that
cold oyster
You have to do the rendering locally, that's what the encoders are for.
halcyon summit
Yeah
hidden hazel
If I want to play, say, borderlands at medium to medium-low quality, do I even need a discrete GPU or do you guys think iGPUs are good enough these days?
halcyon summit
If I want to play, say, borderlands at medium to medium-low quality, do I even n...
Well
My current laptop is an i5 1235U machine and it runs Zenless Zone Zero on 1080p low just fine
The one that broke was a Ryzen 7 5700U and it could run that game at 1080p low just fine too
If I drop the resolution down to 900p, it can push medium to high on 60 FPS
So take that how you want
cold oyster
Modern APUs from AMD basically give you pretty close to budget GPU levels of performance, so it's definitely doable. Even iGPUs are still going to crush something like the GT710 in gaming, but I don't know if I would call that a huge achievement.
hidden hazel
Also, where do you guys compare GPU specs? I can't tell these days whether a GPU is good enough or an iGPU is good enough to play a game
cold oyster
Also, where do you guys compare GPU specs? I can't tell these days whether a GPU...
TechPowerUp
halcyon summit
Also, where do you guys compare GPU specs? I can't tell these days whether a GPU...
I mostly just... don't and go with my gut
There are games that straight up refuse to work on iGPUs properly
These are mostly the games made in Unreal Engine
hidden hazel
Oooh
cold oyster
That's basically also the reason I use techpowerup to do spec comparisons, I wouldn't want to tell someone to get some graphics card only to realise later that it hasn't had driver support in ages or that it only supports like DX11 or something
hidden hazel
I'll take a look at that resource
cold oyster
this is an old school me speaking rn tho, I know that DX11 is ancient at this point and basically everything older than GTX900 series and RX5000 series GPUs no longer have driver support lol