can i make this build any better while keeping the price under 500?

[austere musk]

I jsut want to see if i can imp4ove this build at all

[pallid echo]

I know you're trying to keep it under 500

But a 1TB SSD would be

much better

If you could add an extra 150 dollars

You could get an RTX 3060 and 1tb instead of 512GB

Depends what you do honestly

[austere musk]

How much for jsut the 3060?

And the reason i eant it to be 500gb is cause i already have a ssd that i plan to use in it as well

[glad geyser]

just get a 14100f with some h610 mainboard

[austere musk]

Would u mind linking that?

[glad geyser]

does it need to be amazon

[pallid echo]

Around 250 dollars

[austere musk]

And do you mean a i3 14100f?

Id prefer it to be

But ill take what i can get

[glad geyser]

is this usa?

[austere musk]

Yeppers

[glad geyser]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fr2Tsh

used will always be better

[austere musk]

Thanks alot man

[austere musk]

Thats streches a bit past my budget

[austere musk]

Is there anyway to drop it maybe like 30 to 40 bucks

[glad geyser]

go for the 1660 super

[austere musk]

On newegg or amzon

[eager stirrup]

is this all new or are you upgrading a different build

[austere musk]

All new

[austere musk]

Well mostly new

[eager stirrup]

as in upgrading or used parts

[austere musk]

Some of its gonna be used

[eager stirrup]

id go am4 then

[austere musk]

U think incould find somrhing of similar performance for less?

Would u mind helping me?

[eager stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3sYh4M
https://www.ebay.com/itm/186380359127 (pick the 5600x option)
https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m70080846348/

[austere musk]

Thanks alit man

[austere musk]

One last thing can this fir in the case i have up top?

[eager stirrup]

no, thats an itx case

id go for a fractal pop air or something similar

[austere musk]

Are those mini itx cases?

[eager stirrup]

do you have a board already?

atx is more common and will be easier to fit in most spaces (unless you have a height constraint, but at that point just turn the case on its side)

[austere musk]

I need to out into a suitcase so id orefer it tk be as small as plausible

Ehats the smallest case this board can fit in?

[eager stirrup]

why would you need it to fit into a suitcase?

[austere musk]

Thats how im gonna get it where i need it

[eager stirrup]

can you not build it where you need it

[austere musk]

Yes but the case is gona getnherr viabsuitcase aswell

[eager stirrup]

well id find a matx case, they can get kinda small

the only itx am4 boards im finding (which keeps you in budget) are way too expensive

[austere musk]

Thabks alot for all the help man

[eager stirrup]

np

[eager stirrup]

tbh a micro atx case should fit your needs fine, its more of how the rear panel is oriented

[austere musk]

thx i think a founda good one

[eager stirrup]

what is it

[austere musk]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zHF3qR

[eager stirrup]

i mean its a goofy ahh case imo but if it works for you it works for you

[austere musk]

hoenslty id like somthin better lookin but i cant find any

[eager stirrup]

not gonna find that many good semi-sff cases out there

[austere musk]

welp

ill take what i canget

[eager stirrup]

i know itll stretch but turns out that 1660ti that i sent you before artifacts, i did find one for 125 shipped though

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266933351305?chn=ps

[austere musk]

Yea saw him taliing. Abt having isseus

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m15747437522/?ref=search_results

what abt this?

[eager stirrup]

tbh id go for it

even though its a 1650s

evga is a reputable brand
(why did they have to leave the gpu market)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/718601171178356801/909389112828657684/2x_9-1.gif

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m45033891238 10 buck more for better performance

4gb vram isnt gonna get you much anymore

[fiery ice]

Used 3600 is like 60 bucks

Get a motherboard new, about 100

Used about 70

(I'd do new though)

[eager stirrup]

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m58103793936/ an even better choice

[fiery ice]

That gives you a better cpu and 60 bucks to work with

[austere musk]

3600 cpu? caus i already have the 5600x

[fiery ice]

Wait

Why are you buying a i3 then?

[eager stirrup]

hes not

[austere musk]

i might stick witht he ti

[eager stirrup]

we shifted away from that plan

[fiery ice]

Oh, I looked at it

Aaaah

[austere musk]

i want this from minecraft and elden ring

[eager stirrup]

thats fair

but that super has higher clock with 6gb vram too

[austere musk]

most of the demanding games dont interest me

[eager stirrup]

elden ring can be pretty gpu-intensive from what ive seen

[austere musk]

hoensts for 5 bucks more

[austere musk]

i used a benching program

dont know if i should trust it

but ill be playing 720p and have no issue going low

[fiery ice]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335564497922?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=UlJpR9obSEy&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=ehuzb2JGSW2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[eager stirrup]

oh if youre playing 720p i can go with a pascal gpu

[fiery ice]

It's a bit much but still

I'm tired

[eager stirrup]

hes on 720p, a 2060 isnt gonna do much more

[fiery ice]

I didn't see it's on bidding

And no, but also yes

[austere musk]

migth upgrade in the futre

[eager stirrup]

not to mention you can get better for around the same price (2080s for 125us)

1660ti or super will do you fine for a few years

[austere musk]

but for now im prolly not going above the super u showed me unless its liek 10 dolalrs for waayyyy more perromance

[fiery ice]

Yeah

[austere musk]

yep

[fiery ice]

I mean honestly speaking

[eager stirrup]

its pretty pointless to go 2060 when 1660tis/supers are around

[austere musk]

im used to playing games at 20 fps can considering it high

super will hold me for a while

[fiery ice]

You could also just do a 5800x3d

Or newer

[eager stirrup]

budget

[fiery ice]

Yes but apu

[eager stirrup]

igpus are god awful

no.

[fiery ice]

Nono hear me out

[eager stirrup]

also x3d isnt an apu

[fiery ice]

5800x3d is

[eager stirrup]

the gs and hs are apus

x3d is just v-cache

[fiery ice]

-.-

[austere musk]

hey man if it can run elden ring at above 30 fps i might be down

[eager stirrup]

yeah go 1660ti

[fiery ice]

Ok 5800x has no igpu

5800x3d has a igpu

But newer and you can get decent performance out of it

[eager stirrup]

5600x will perform fine for his needs

[fiery ice]

The 7840u at 20 watts can do endenring at 60fps

[eager stirrup]

the gpu is stretching this already

[fiery ice]

That's a laptop chip

At 1080p

[eager stirrup]

yeah and thats a laptop

[fiery ice]

Without a dedicated gpu

[eager stirrup]

laptop chips are more apu-balanced

[fiery ice]

I mean sure, but desktop has more power

[eager stirrup]

5800x3d is cpu-biased, meaning the igpu isnt gonna be too powerful

[fiery ice]

https://youtu.be/QnkUaZTLzIg?si=AFcZ1LgE3RdmbSli

[eager stirrup]

thats a G chip

not an X chip

G/H chips are apus

no-letter and x chips are cpus

meaning you really need a card to run anything

[fiery ice]

https://youtu.be/yymkevYwVqQ?si=IQajgF6XH_2YRYbZ

[eager stirrup]

AM5 chip.

Zen 4 can't really be compared to Zen 3 in terms of power

[fiery ice]

No your right, I had somewhere in my head that the 5800x3d had integrated graphics

Yes, but I mean still it's not half bad for performance, and getting a better cpu to start, especially a microcenter bundle could help in the long run

Since they're only running 720p anyways

[eager stirrup]

does microcenter even carry am4 stuff anymore?

[fiery ice]

Yeah

At least their online store

Remember 5700x3d

Because amd had bad 5800x3d fans but didn't want to toss them because expensive

So 5700x3d limited supplies

It's a bit expensive though

However what's not expensive (realitively speaking) is a ryzen 5 7600x with mobo and a 16 gig stick, 300

[austere musk]

Yea i like the ltt discord server more

[fiery ice]

Buy another stick, get a basic cooler for it, a power supply, and a cheap case (cough free)

Trying to think

If this was 1080p I'd suggest a gpu, 720p though, you can get away with it, also forgot you're gonna probably want a ssd because I didn't think about that

[austere musk]

that parts taken care of

and imma stick with the gpu build

[fiery ice]

Mmk

[austere musk]

id rather upgrade a cpu later than a gpu

[fiery ice]

Well you're gonna do both is the issue

Deadend path technically

[austere musk]

meh

[fiery ice]

1660ti is gonna lose updates in a few years

[austere musk]

i have some room to from the 56 to a 9

[austere musk]

im likely gonna have a whole new pc in a few years

[fiery ice]

True, just a point I like to state though

[austere musk]

yea thanks for all the adivce both of you

[fiery ice]

Np

[eager stirrup]

considering how long maxwell 1.0/kepler lasted, turing has a good bit of drivers left in it

[austere musk]

yall are legit life savers

[fiery ice]

900 I think is about to be at eol

[eager stirrup]

ik

and were at 5000

they both lasted right around 10 years

so weve got ~5 years of turing drivers

[fiery ice]

Hmmm, yeah I'm just doing bad math lol

I'm think oh it's got 2 maybe 3 years left, because cpus are yearly

[eager stirrup]

fair, but gpus typically last longer than cpus

[fiery ice]

I know

I'm just tired so I did my math wrong

2+2 =3

Oh I guess TECHNICALLY I'm not wrong, I said a few, which is 3 or more :p

It's like 145 am

[austere musk]

Soery to bother u again but i tried to do some price snipping

Is this till ok?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6PpJjH

[fiery ice]

5600x needs a gpu

[austere musk]

Ik

Im getting one

[austere musk]

This one or the 2060 u sent maybe

Its jsut that oc part pricket wont shownthe true price so i left it out

[fiery ice]

The 2060 I sent was being bidders on

You can configure it to put a price in manually

[austere musk]

Meh too laz6

[eager stirrup]

2060 has no point if youre going 1660ti/super

bc gen 1 rt cores arent going to do much