Good build?

[gloomy owl]

building micro atx??

[trail arrow]

yea, why?

is it a bad form factor?

[gloomy owl]

form factor where many things can go wrong

go for atx build

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do I just get an atx case and put the matx mobo in there? I like the mobo

[gloomy owl]

not a good idea btw

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oh
but I like the mobo for the wifi

[gloomy owl]

atx will be cheaper and easy

[gloomy owl]

mobo?

[trail arrow]

motherboard

[gloomy owl]

in atx you can get wifi too

micro atx go littlle bit higher in price due to r&d

[trail arrow]

there are none at the same price as the b550 pro vdh wifi

the only one is the b550 gaming gen 3 but it has no wifi

[gloomy owl]

true

😢

[plain dagger]

1. if you can, build am5
2. get rid of the nv2, replace it with something else

[gloomy owl]

@trail arrow bro add cpu cooler too

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my budget is 600 USD. Can I fit AM5 into this budget? I can compromise on the GPU and get like a GTX 1060 6GB, I do not mind at all

also the nv2 is cheaper than the TeamGroup MP44L so I figured I could get it

[trail arrow]

the CPU comes with a cooler

[gloomy owl]

🤣

[gloomy owl]

going to sacrifice cpu on this stock cooler?

[trail arrow]

the CPU is 65W bro

it's not a i9-14900K lol

[gloomy owl]

go for better fan

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q6H7YJ/thermalright-assassin-x-120-refined-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120-se-d3

good?

[gloomy owl]

nice

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HyTPxr/cooler-master-hyper-212-black-edition-42-cfm-cpu-cooler-rr-212s-20pk-r1

[trail arrow]

the thermalright one is cheaper, I guess I'll take that lol

tight budget, still need to buy a mouse
gonna go for Logitech G305

[gloomy owl]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M3BzK8/thermalright-assassin-x-120-plus-v2-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120-v2-plus

same??

[trail arrow]

hmmmmm nope its different

idk which is better lol

[gloomy owl]

see yt reviws

[warm fulcrum]

The Thermalright assassin is much better

Also matx is definitely cheaper

[gloomy owl]

mhm

but the uncertainity in fitting component

[warm fulcrum]

Huh

Most matx mid towers fit anything

Especially for a $600 build

[gloomy owl]

mb

[trail arrow]

do you think the wraith stealth is adequate?

[warm fulcrum]

That being said @trail arrow do you expect to upgrade this? Or just keep as is

For a 5600x yeah probably

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I intend to upgrade to a 5700X3D, GPU wise idk

[warm fulcrum]

When do you plan to do that

[trail arrow]

definitely not anytime soon lol
I'll use this as-is for a decent few years until the 5600 starts to show its age like the 3600 then I'll upgrade

but idk if 5600 to 5700X3D is a big jump or not

[warm fulcrum]

Oh ok so you need a build for right now

[trail arrow]

mainly the v-cache carrying it

[warm fulcrum]

Not as much as a gpu upgrade would be

[trail arrow]

are you suggesting for me to go AM5 instead?

[warm fulcrum]

No I think am4 works

Especially for $600

[trail arrow]

yep, I still need a bit more money for a mouse (logitech g305)
I have a keyboard and 1080p 75hz monitor

[warm fulcrum]

So the mouse needs to be included in the $600

[gloomy owl]

yes

[trail arrow]

so next upgrade, probably 5700X3D, RX 7800 XT (or 8000 series, idk), 1440p 165hz IPS monitor, and maybe 32 gigs of RAM

hopefully 650w is enough

[gloomy owl]

32 gigs ram?

[plain dagger]

im not one for radeon cards, but it should be fine

[trail arrow]

will upgrade slowly, but for now I will use the PC for a few years

[plain dagger]

id also suggest a 750w at least

[trail arrow]

a750gl is $100, a bit too expensive for me

[warm fulcrum]

650 is fine

I would step up to 3600mhz if you can on the ram

[trail arrow]

idm nvidia but I don't need CUDA and I think FSR is fine on quality mode

unless I'm buying a 4060 I'm paying a premium for nvidia cards I think

[plain dagger]

its personal for me, an old radeon card of mine shit the bed and died

after like

3 years

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can't find any, I think it's fine cuz this RAM is 30 bucks anyway

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I wouldn't mind a 2060 Super which is equivalent to the 6600 but I'd go used

[warm fulcrum]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n6RgXL/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c18d-16gvk

[plain dagger]

i got a 2080s for $250, so if you can id go for that

[trail arrow]

does the cl18 make a difference too?

[warm fulcrum]

Actually go cl16 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

[trail arrow]

damn thats a solid 10 bucks more
does the 400 mhz make a difference?

[warm fulcrum]

Well yeah

[trail arrow]

that falls out of budget, I'll see if I can find a 2070 super
maybe I'll go used on the GPU and CPU, I think the remaining parts are tough to find used

[warm fulcrum]

I mean not much but like a couple fps yeah

If you can squeeze it it’s worth it

But 3200 would be fine

[trail arrow]

yeah I think I could but I may go for the used route for the CPU and GPU

[warm fulcrum]

For sure

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how can I verify that used GPUs work? I don't have the luxury of making a full-on portable PC and testing it when meeting the person

[warm fulcrum]

eBay returns are good

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same goes for the CPU, besides checking for bent pins how can I verify it's legit?

[warm fulcrum]

If it doesn’t work eBay will take care of it

[plain dagger]

^^^

[trail arrow]

ahh yea I forgot about that

I was gonna hop onto FB marketplace

[plain dagger]

yeah no

[warm fulcrum]

Lol yeah if you do that, it’s best to make them test it in front of you

But eBay is definitely the easiest

[plain dagger]

i got my 2080s through ebay, it's amazing

[trail arrow]

ah okay so ebay then
then all I gotta do is get the g.skill ripjaws RAM instead of the silicon power value gaming one?

[warm fulcrum]

Yeah I would get that instead

[plain dagger]

just be warned, if you dont get a refurbished one, you probably need to repaste the cooler

yeah

definitely get the g.skill

[trail arrow]

I'll test them then first I suppose, if temps are too high I'll buy thermal paste
if not then I'll use it as-is, maybe with cleaning the GPU with a toothbrush

[trail arrow]

any recommendation for mobo/ssd/psu/case? or are they good for my budget

[gloomy owl]

@trail arrow

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H8Xm6D

modified yours

but slightly over budget

@warm fulcrum inc. your idea of 3600mhz ram

[warm fulcrum]

You put CL20

None of the changes are great tbh

[gloomy owl]

😢

[warm fulcrum]

It’s just unnecessary

It doesn’t need an aftermarket cooler and the other motherboard is fine