Best CPU for both productivity workloads and gaming?

[dull flume]

7950x3d

[runic spoke]

14700k

[hollow marsh]

What is your budget?

[dull flume]

how can you recomend a broken cpu?

[old oasis]

Because he’s an idiot

[dull flume]

https://tenor.com/view/blank-stare-really-i-dont-believe-you-side-eye-looking-gif-778333749013059630

[runic spoke]

Microcode update

[dull flume]

well the cpues did not start bluescreening after 1day it took a month a year before people started to see the most amount of issues

and it has happened once and you see how intel is handling the situation

[runic spoke]

Yeah they are extending warranty
https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/Additional-Warranty-Updates-on-Intel-Core-13th-14th-Gen-Desktop/m-p/1620853

Discord makes that image so weird

[ember lynx]

the minimal they should do 😮

[old oasis]

imagine extending the warranty on a failed product

[ember lynx]

yeah exactly

imo the minimal they should do is just recall all chips

[old oasis]

meh

That's not a good business decision

[ember lynx]

no but having chips fail also isn't a good decision

no that they could change that but still

[dull flume]

thats a lot of dying cpues

[runic spoke]

Yeah recall all and go bankrupt, good idea. You should start a business 👍

[ember lynx]

you sound like a intel fanboy ngl

a product should not fail

due to lack of QC

[dull flume]

maybe do not make a product that has a "100%" failure rate (100% comes from a ton of game devs but for lower end their are less reports)
intel can at least allow for a easy way to RMA the broken chips for the people who do save every receipt or who do not want to spend money on useless things by buying a tray cpu

[runic spoke]

Everyone makes mistakes lol

[dull flume]

a yes 700$ mistake for almost every user who bought a 13900ks

[runic spoke]

I can count so many companys that made mistakes

Asus with their 2000$ gpu, who charge 700$ for a repair

Or gigabyte with their 200$ psus

Or the 200$ repair for a 500$ asus ally

Shit happens

[dull flume]

but most or all of those companies have a easy RMA process

but also remember the scale of the issue, when some studios have a 50% or higher failure rate it becomes a bit of a bigger issue especially when intel knew of the issue for so long.

[runic spoke]

Same with asus

[runic spoke]

Intel also has a easy rma process

[dull flume]

tray

[dull flume]

well their stuff aint all dying and asus is not the only GPU maker

[devout hound]

I would say the 14700K or 14900K but all the Intel haters would say they are still broken

[runic spoke]

I see no issue, contacting the place where you bought the cpu is easy

[runic spoke]

Intel is also not the only cpu maker

[dull flume]

what if it went bankrupt in the 2 years this has been a issue

[dull flume]

how many desktop cpu makers are their?

[runic spoke]

They still need to have a running return process

[dull flume]

how?

[runic spoke]

Many. Intel, amd, Raspberry pi, arduino, adafruit and so many more

[dull flume]

wow your dumb

[runic spoke]

People have right to Return stuff. They not to keep that running because of that

[runic spoke]

Huh

[dull flume]

arduino uses atmega cpues, adafruit uses other random SoC cpues too

[runic spoke]

Custom versions

[dull flume]

only 2 of these you can use in a desktop easily and only 2 of these have high perform aka actually usable for gaming

[dull flume]

how can return something to a store that has no employs?

[runic spoke]

You didnt specifie that. Also qualcom makes cpus

[runic spoke]

Bro what? Every company needs a place to Return stuff even tho they are bankrupt

[dull flume]

if you have no workers you cant do shit for RMA since you have no workers or a store to do that

[runic spoke]

What about the owner

[dull flume]

do you think a owner is going to do 10k+ RMAs for his bankrupt company which he dose not earn anything from

[runic spoke]

He has too

[dull flume]

why?

[runic spoke]

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/index_en.htm

[dull flume]

ye i know about the EU return policy

as i also live in the EU

[runic spoke]

So the owner has to take back the cpu

[dull flume]

how can he do that if he has no money or a place to stay?

[runic spoke]

I dont think he has No place to stay

[dull flume]

ok fine you are right he dose have the street or a cardboard box

[runic spoke]

Funny

[dull flume]

but again what if you bought a tray cpu and the seller is not accepting warranty?

[runic spoke]

Lawsuit against the seller

[dull flume]

is little Timmy and his poor family going to sue for his 200$ cpu?

[runic spoke]

Yeah

[dull flume]

so he is going to use 1000$ or more on a lawyer to get back is 200$ cpu

and also remember we have had to have this discussion just because intel is not allowing RMAs of TRAY cpues and its up to the store you bought it from if they are even willing to do that

[runic spoke]

You know how lawsuits Work right?

[dull flume]

ofc

but i just wanna se how a lawsuit works for you?

[runic spoke]

Little timmy gets his money back if he wins it

[dull flume]

what?
usually he only gets back his cpu

[runic spoke]

I mean the money, the lawsuit cost

[dull flume]

you know it can take a super long time to file a suit and it is also possible to only get the product back

[runic spoke]

But the Person loosing the lawsuit has to pay it

[dull flume]

A losing party pays attorney fees only if the winner is specifically given the right to recover legal fees in a contract between the parties or through a state or federal law.

not always