literally just give thoughts & recommendations (around 1250 gbp budget, give or take a few pounds)

[warm jolt]

Probably get 2 x 32gb of ram instead of 4 x 16gb

And what are you gonna do with the build?

[midnight lake]

Yep, get 2x32GB. DDR5 doesn't like 4 stick configurations, it's a lot harder on the memory controller than 4-stick DDR4 configurations were

[sacred barn]

Terrible

[woeful egret]

just gaming n a bit of streaming idc about the encoder that nvidia uses n wanted to do a full amd build for a while so now is the time, i know i could probably get a better gpu if i went down the ddr4 route but .. well i have no excuse for ddr5 tbf just sounds appealing

[woeful egret]

i will take your opinion into consideration and try make it less terrible bc you said so

[sacred barn]

Would you prefer white or black, atx or microatx, and do you need wireless connectivity ?

[woeful egret]

i dont mind white or black, if i went with black i would have the rgb be white and if i went white i would have the rgb be purple, preferably matx as i dont wish to have it take up too much room + i have carpet and dont wish to kill the psu within a month, also with wireless connections i do pentesting with wireless networks (my own routers) with different devices that arent hooked up with ethernet so i suppose yes i would have wireless connectivity, ik the board in the list doesnt have wifi but thats due to me already having a reciever for wireless connections and dont care so much about download/upload through it

[sacred barn]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sLpzVW

[umbral thicket]

I got rosted when I used that PSU

Is it any good?

[sacred barn]

It’s okay

Not great

[umbral thicket]

What Teir?

[woeful egret]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TLxRmD
changed a few things incl the psu n gpu n then the cpu, along with storage and memory and motherboard.. basically everything aside from cooler than case

[patent goblet]

No

Can you get aliexpress cpu?

[woeful egret]

if you scroll up to the top of this youll see the original list i had

i dont trust aliexpress, i dont trust anything aside from amazon and well known companies, aliexpress is iffy, same with other chinese located companies too easy to get scammed, ik some folk do sell legit stuff on there but ive never been one to trust it just incase im down a few hundred for something

[umbral thicket]

No

[woeful egret]

i feel like ive jsut posted this on pc master race god damn

[umbral thicket]

Yes

I'll tell you what's wrong with it

7600 is the same performance as the 7600X, you are paying for a cooler name

The cooler is good

The motherboard is dog shit

The ram is good

The SSDs are trash

The GPU is decent

The PSU is trash for it's price

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YpYmMV

[umbral thicket]

Or this https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RbH7N6

[umbral thicket]

7700 XT is alot better for streaming

@woeful egret also what's up with the 2 SSD config?

[woeful egret]

boot drive, game drive

think outside the box

think smart not hard

[umbral thicket]

That is fucking stupid

Use partitions

[woeful egret]

in your own opinion its stupid

[umbral thicket]

It's a fact

[woeful egret]

not when you have a shit ton of games

[patent goblet]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/C2wyn6

[umbral thicket]

Use partitions

[patent goblet]

Not worth

Especially with a ssd

Do dual nvme if anything

But rather buy a single large

[umbral thicket]

120 GB partition for the boot and the other for games

[patent goblet]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/f9H7N6

[umbral thicket]

Where the fuck did you find the 7500F for sale?

But its the same price as the 7600

So no good

[sacred barn]

So you destroyed the build

Just get mine lol

[woeful egret]

nah ive reverted back to the r7 7700x n 7600xt just bc too much switching for no reason, ive done what i was told at the start and switched the 4x16gb kit to 2x32gb so ill stick with that, cba dealing with the pc master race bs its a waste of time arguing over pc parts tbf

[umbral thicket]

Bruh

7700X plus 7600XT is stupid

[woeful egret]

your own opinion

[umbral thicket]

Just get 7600 plus 7700 XT

[woeful egret]

im not gonna argue bc as i literally just said its a waste of time

started with 2 lovely people actually giving tips on what to do instead then turned into a complete shitshow

[umbral thicket]

No, not really you will get alot more fps and it will age alot better

@sacred barn @patent goblet

[umbral thicket]

🔺

[woeful egret]

idrc about alot more fps if it gets me the fps of my monitor constantly with a few dips here n there when rendering new things then im fine with it

[umbral thicket]

You will get a better PC for cheaper man, and it will age ALOT better in the coming years

[patent goblet]

You turned it into shitshow fam

Cannot listen to advice and cannot ask when wring

I can tell you what's up

And what we can do and why

Bit your impatient 5yr old self couldn't keep up.

So I apologize

[umbral thicket]

Brother you will get better stuff for the same price

[patent goblet]

But if you have any questions

Ask them

I have reasons for why I pick things

[woeful egret]

ive been listening to advice and opinions so idrk where your point is

[patent goblet]

.

[woeful egret]

your insuating an argument over components of a computer for what reason

[umbral thicket]

It's not opinions brother

[patent goblet]

7600xt is the worst gpu in thr entire market

[umbral thicket]

They are facts

[umbral thicket]

Yes

[patent goblet]

It's like actually worse then 3050

[umbral thicket]

Get 6750 XT

[patent goblet]

In terms of market share

[umbral thicket]

Ok not that bad

[umbral thicket]

Ok in this term yes

[patent goblet]

Bingo. This 6750xt is a powerful last gen well priced card

Also, because your cpu and ram heavy I'm guessing this pc is not gaming too much

Mostly for work correct?

[woeful egret]

thats probably due to the amount of people that think amd's drivers are complete utter dogshit and would rather go with an rtx card that can barely do the rtx part

[patent goblet]

Yeah lol. But still 7600xt has too much vram for it's shit die

Something like 6750xt, canactually utilize all it's vram

And so will greatly outperform

It

[woeful egret]

some gaming included along with a bit of streaming here n there(said earlier idc about nvidias encoder or sumshit) then yea "work" its more of a hobby thing me n a mate do

[patent goblet]

Same dumb idea as 16gv 4060ti

Bc of 128 bit bus still

7600xt is a blunder by amd

Like 7900x3d

[umbral thicket]

Aka 7600 XTs Vram is slow as fuck same with 4060 ti

Even if they have 16 GB which is alot

[woeful egret]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qtfnRK

hows this then

[umbral thicket]

Decent

[woeful egret]

we went through all of that for decent rating damn, i should give up

[umbral thicket]

No no

It's alot better then most people

[woeful egret]

decent is better than a list of shit ratings

[patent goblet]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4GZ9DZ

This is best

Save a bunch too

[umbral thicket]

@woeful egret do really need 64 GB of ram?

It's really overkill

[woeful egret]

vrchat likes to guzzle ram

i have 32gb atm n it uses 28-29gb borderline panic

dont mind the other shit its useless in this context

[umbral thicket]

Holy sh-

[woeful egret]

yea

cities skylines type shit

[umbral thicket]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/x96pPF

[umbral thicket]

@woeful egret this looks good?

[woeful egret]

checking now

[umbral thicket]

Montech air is amazing case and it's pretty small

[woeful egret]

tbf anything would be an upgrade from what i have currently

[patent goblet]

Upgrade gpu if we saving this mych

Go 7800xt

[umbral thicket]

Msi mag 850watt PCIE 5 is well reviewed unit

[sacred barn]

Why not just get my list from earlier

[umbral thicket]

Yes but you should get something good today so it will last long before needing to be replaced

@woeful egret
Let's go one by one

7600 for CPU right?

What about the CPU cooler?

I think Evo would be good

[umbral thicket]

@patent goblet @sacred barn

[woeful egret]

quite stealthy, i like the all black, then as i said earlier the rgb will be white or purple idrk yet

not a fan of flashing rgb hurts the eyes at 4am

[umbral thicket]

It has RGB

Only a little tho

Looks sexy

[woeful egret]

if its a lil then it should be fine

[umbral thicket]

Cool

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/QcvD4D/msi-b650m-gaming-plus-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-gaming-plus-wifi

This motherboard

[umbral thicket]

@woeful egret you cool with this?

[woeful egret]

im fine with it other than idrk why i would need a mobo with wifi whilst owning an adapter for it and dont care for download speeds as when im not doing my hobby i use ethernet

[umbral thicket]

Well this motherboard is good and the price is decent and it has WiFi, this motherboard it is

[woeful egret]

i mean ill still get it just incase this adapter kicks the bucket some time down the line

[umbral thicket]

For the ram you need 64 GB 6000 MHz CL 30

[umbral thicket]

Sure

[woeful egret]

6GHz do be the sweet spot for amd

[umbral thicket]

Yes

For the SSD

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/f4cG3C/silicon-power-ud90-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp02kgbp44ud9005

For the GPU 6750 XT or 7700 XT or 7800 XT

And this PSU

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/GL3gMV
@woeful egret

[woeful egret]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NgGbPF same parts jsut the 7700xt

[umbral thicket]

Ok this is great

[woeful egret]

great is better than decent ill take it

[umbral thicket]

💀

[umbral thicket]

Also consider the 7800 XT or 7900 GRE if it fits in ur budget

[umbral thicket]

@patent goblet @sacred barn

[woeful egret]

7800 does so ig ill go with that fucker

[umbral thicket]

Alright

[patent goblet]

Nooo

Don't get that ssd

It'd shit qlc

[woeful egret]

oh ffs

[patent goblet]

Pay 1 for thr nice wd blue 2tb

[woeful egret]

heres me thinking it was finally done

[patent goblet]

That's the only change

Lil

Lol

[umbral thicket]

??????

It's ud90

[patent goblet]

Ud90 1tb is good. 2tb is qlc

Actually 2tb and beyond all are qlc

[umbral thicket]

Bruhhhhh

[patent goblet]

Yeah shitty ik

[umbral thicket]

This shit should be illegal

[patent goblet]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TdBGZJ

[umbral thicket]

@woeful egret just change the SSD that's all

[woeful egret]

i did

[patent goblet]

Yeah. Also if you want you can bump to 7900gre for 10% more performance

For 20$

[woeful egret]

about to go to bed just to get pinged

[umbral thicket]

Sorry brother

[patent goblet]

Sorry. But this the last change. And it a idea. Not something you haaave to do

[umbral thicket]

This is final

[patent goblet]

7900gre Is 20$ mor

[umbral thicket]

Nvm

7900 GRE it is

[patent goblet]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JCNxBL

Here then

[woeful egret]

also nah i reckon ill stick with 7800xt for now, somepoint down the line when new shit releases ill probably just get the 7900xt or somethin for the 24gb vram even tho is kinda useless for the shit i do itll be last gen someday

[patent goblet]

Allg

[umbral thicket]

Gtg now

My flight

[woeful egret]

take care

[patent goblet]

U too fam

[woeful egret]

samsung j3 moment

[patent goblet]

Nah fr

[umbral thicket]

It's a M12

And I'm shit at taking photos

[patent goblet]

Here in usa it's s24 s24ultra or buss

Instead of a series people buy pixels

[sacred barn]

Again I fail to understand why we aren’t using the list I already do made

[patent goblet]

Convincing him too use good parts took a while

[sacred barn]

Bruh

Not everyone deserves a good list

[patent goblet]

Resolved on dis tho

[umbral thicket]

I use 3 apps, hell am I going to do with a S24 ultra

Funny how my Phone still as a higher re refresh rate then the base iPhone 15 💀

90 Hz vs 60 Hz

Oh also I landed and did not died so that's nice

[umbral thicket]

He got different cooler and 64 GB ram and a better PSU

It's almost the same as yours

[sacred barn]

i can understand the psu but the ram?

64gb of ram for gaming?

Simply not useable

It's actually worse btw

[umbral thicket]

He plays VR chat which is a memory hog

So 64 gb

[patent goblet]

Vr "chat" supposedly

[umbral thicket]

💀

[sacred barn]

Mhm

[woeful egret]

yes vrchat, none of this supposedly bs, literally jump on n chill with mates that i know irl but live fuckin miles away

[sacred barn]

Touch grass

[woeful egret]

i do touch grass funnily enough

my actual job is outside

isnt that ironic, dunno how ive managed to piss you off but its funny

[patent goblet]

No we r trying to b funny lmfao

And mouse boy is always like this, passive aggressive

[sacred barn]

Shut up nobody asked you 🙄

[woeful egret]

i dont see him as aggressive in the slightest, i only see him as someone who doesnt care about actually giving thoughts and just complains about everything, i understand how pcmr works but its as if he took it to a whole new level with it

[patent goblet]

Bro said pcmr 💀

If you dive into it it's kinda like what hapoend between 1939 and 45

Back in those days

[woeful egret]

which side are you two on then if we going back to those times

[patent goblet]

Keep that a secret

🤫

[woeful egret]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HxFYDZ

already made my choice on which build to go for so i made this one as a joke, do your thing and roast it ig?

[patent goblet]

5700x

Lmfa

[patent goblet]

Cannot be serious

4 sticks of ram = boogaloo

And it will be slow

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/yFXhz6

This betta

[woeful egret]

it wasnt meant to be serious

[umbral thicket]

Nahhh

AM5

7600 is faster than 5700X

[sacred barn]

As i suspected an idiot

[woeful egret]

respect ya elders child, 18 yo "married"

[umbral thicket]

Ahh yes bring unrelated shit when lossing

[umbral thicket]

wow it's not completely dog shit, just the CPU and motherboard and ram

[sacred barn]

So half the build…

[umbral thicket]

yeahhhh...

[sacred barn]

Might as well buy a prebuilt at that point

[woeful egret]

brev that was 3 days ago you absolute mong keep attempting to light the fire again

[umbral thicket]

It's your loss not ours, there is a reason that we say the build isn't good

[woeful egret]

it may be my loss but atleast then i can save up more money to then switch to ddr5 and by then there will be better parts than 7000 series

[umbral thicket]

The reason being:
AM4 is a dead platform
4x kits isn't a good deal cuz you will have to run lower speed and be less stable as the memory controller is only 2X
And that motherboard only has PCIE 3

[woeful egret]

oh your looking at that list god damn

[umbral thicket]

You could have gone AM5 for the same price

[woeful egret]

i made a new one

i made an even worse list but the mobo is pcie4

[umbral thicket]

Ok?

[woeful egret]

or well worse to you guys, good enough for myself to do what i wish to do

[umbral thicket]

You do you but you are getting worse stuff for more or sell the same price

[woeful egret]

i get that, however some say am4 is a dead platform which in a way is sorta true but at the same time amd still decided to make 3d chips for a few of the 5000 series cpus

[patent goblet]

Ngl you is defo the keyboard warrior mong

And yeah. You defo can't run a mile in under an hour 💀

[woeful egret]

lmao someones mad

[patent goblet]

More of your toxic self spreading shit everywhere and smearing blame on me. But whatever floats your boat