Advice and optimization of parts for a new budget PC

[stuck merlin]

what country?

[pale pecan]

the intel build has a pretty expensive mobo. i assume wifi? you can get a cheaper mobo with a dongle and save a couple bucks.

only a singular 2 tb ssd? get a 500-1tb ssd and a extra hdd, you can probably get 2x the storage for the same price.

[stuck merlin]

not really worth advising on that until we know what actual country they're from

[pale pecan]

looked into their linked twitch. they‘re from colombia.

[pale pecan]

theres barely any difference between the 5600GT and 5600G, get whats cheaper.

[stuck merlin]

the 12400 out performs either of those

[small pine]

Where GPU?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jjrVPF

[stuck merlin]

at the price it's an igpu build which makes the 12100f a dumb buy

[pale pecan]

he said he will get a gpu later

you could also in theory get a cheaper case if there are budget issues

just in case

[stuck merlin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sQgjDZ

with a better mobo, better ssd,and cheaper case

[small pine]

Igpus sucks tho

You can get a build with a gpu for the same price

[hybrid granite]

Thank you for your inputs. I'll address some of the questions:

• @stuck merlin As pointed out by others, I'm from Colombia.
• @pale pecan Yes, the TUF Mobo has WiFi and is one of the very few decent DDR4 mobos left in the stores here. As for cases, not much brand selection (no Antec, no Montech, no DeepCool etc.) and the 205M Mesh is one of the cheapest I can buy here at $70. Most of the Amazon options add import taxes.
• @small pine I can't afford a GPU right now because the used market is flooded with "I know what I have" folks selling you a 1030 for the price of a 2080Ti. I'm close to landing a new job and a GPU would be the first thing to add to the build.

[small pine]

Ahhh I see

[hybrid granite]

Your build has some parts that I can get here that I didn't realize. Thank you.

[hybrid granite]

Same for this. I'm gonna try to mix them

[stuck merlin]

if you can get the mobo i suggested in the build i done you'd have a mobo that performs above it's level tbh

[hybrid granite]

I actually can haha. And like $55-60 cheaper than the TUF. That was a great suggestion

[stuck merlin]

it can handle up to a 12900/13900/14900 and still have the vrm's run cool

[hybrid granite]

I just verified with the store and it's the DDR5 version... 😦

But it's way cheaper on Amazon so I might be able to upgrade to a 12600K

[stuck merlin]

ddr5 one would befine but it would mean the ram may be dearer tbh

[hybrid granite]

Yep, I think it's better to rather go DDR4 and upgrade the CPU.

[hybrid granite]

So far is looking like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kv9zL9

I know it says almost USD$660 but for some reason it fits my budget after exchange rate.

[stuck merlin]

change the ssd, seriously, it's shit

[hybrid granite]

Any specific brand you would recommend?

[peak kindle]

Sure

What's the budget and reason tell me once again

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zz2CWt

This silicon power ud90 is good TLC

[stuck merlin]

good for up to 1tb tbh, it becomes questionable over that, 2tb and higher especially the 4tb one is qlc nand

[peak kindle]

Yep

[hybrid granite]

Not available to me unfortunately.

[peak kindle]

Hmm look for teamgroup mp44l

Or solidigm p41

[stuck merlin]

wd sn570/580, lexar nm620/nm710/nm790, teamgroup mp34/44/44l

[stuck merlin]

p44 plus*

solidigm p44 pro = hynix p41

[peak kindle]

No that's true but p41 plus is cheap tlc anyways

[stuck merlin]

qlc nand for that not tlc

[hybrid granite]

Would a WD Blue SN580 be a good choice?

[stuck merlin]

solid choice tbh

[hybrid granite]

@stuck merlin Is it too bad if I change the 12600K + PA 120SE for a 12400 with the stock cooler to make some savings or is the trade in performance not worth it?

[peak kindle]

Trade in perf worth it

[stuck merlin]

nope, still worth it

[hybrid granite]

What about having the 12400 + PA 120SE? I'm trying to find the best mix.

[peak kindle]

No the 12600 has to stay

12600 vs 12400 is big jump

12400 is. Slightly boosted 12100 or i3 and 12600 Is aslightly shunted 12700k or i7 if that makes sense

[peak kindle]

Also of buying 12400 stock cooler is enough

But I'd stay 12600 for a pc that will last a bit, and not be rendered e-waste

[stuck merlin]

not really, considering 12600k is where it starts to have e-cores on the cpu, and for budget sake, a 12400 is perfectly fine

[peak kindle]

Well I think it'd be a considerable jump, cuz 12600k does fit

In budget

He's just finding places to save rn

[stuck merlin]

from the sounds of it, this will be a gaming rig, in which case, the 12400 trade blows with a 5600

the cpu performance of a 5600g/5600gt is no better than an r5 3600

if i was going for a new build using an igpu, it would be a ddr5 am5 setup using an 8600g/8700g

they're directly comparable to laptop cpu's

8600g = 7640hs with it's 760m

and the 8700g = 7840hs with the 780m

[peak kindle]

On another note, xtx is now 800

900 but has 100$$ coupon

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-rx-7900-xtx-gaming-trio-classic-24g/p/N82E16814137781?

[stuck merlin]

noice

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qgs4VW

the igpu on this is equal to a gtx1050/1630

probably going to be way more in columbia in comparison

but this would be a basic if going for as new as possible igpu build

[peak kindle]

Should go for 8700

It'd 780m

That's a 2060 and trades blows with

[stuck merlin]

it does not trade blows with a 2060

the 780m is equal to a 1650/1060(3gb)

while currently the best igpu, halo strix will be an even greater improvement on that

with it's rumoured 40cu igpu

[stuck merlin]

no where near a 2060 in performance dude

[distant sail]

i reccomend this with the purpous of being able to upgrade to a dedicated gpu later and already being on am5

[stuck merlin]

thing is, their location could prevent them from getting this

[distant sail]

is columbia a hard place to get gpus?

[stuck merlin]

doubt it, but also, it's kess than likelt to get most newest stuff with ease without paying through the roof for it for them

[distant sail]

Okay I see

What would the practicality’s of buying a us gpu and paying to have it shipped?

It would probably be $100+ in shipping but it might be worth it compared to the columbian market

[hybrid granite]

Yes. I only see the horrendous 4060s or the absolute no no 3050s and up. In the used market, "I know what I have" people with 1650s at $250

[hybrid granite]

That and import taxes.

XFX RX6650 new for like $225 is the most affordable option (not counting the RX850 lol.

[hybrid granite]

I'm gonna try to see if I can get these parts. I'd definitely have to change case, RAM and SSD

[warm meadow]

that's a thing anywhere that second hand stuff exists lmao

[distant sail]

Oh I see that sucks

[distant sail]

Oh yeah I didn’t think of the import taxes