PC Part Picker List, Anything I should change?

[ocean jewel]

Title

[rough fern]

You could probably get a 7900xt instead what’s the budget?

[versed grotto]

Don’t get amd gpu please

[rough fern]

Why not?

I have a 7800xt and have no issues

Plus if he’s going am5 he can use smart access memory and boost his performance

[rough fern]

You also might want to check the quality of that psu

[lofty geode]

B tier

Its chill

Oops wrong @ lmfao

[lofty geode]

Piss off*

[rough fern]

Ok thanks I was very confused

[versed grotto]

Swap it with a 4090

[versed grotto]

Please learn about stuff before commenting on it

[lofty geode]

Fym lol

4090

How is that gonna fit in budget

Pc costs less than a 4090

But yes, swap out the 6900xt for a 7900xtx

Same price, ~20% more perf iirc and 8gb more vram

Unless the 6900xt is used

And isn’t $900

[rough fern]

You know literally nothing

And gpus have no issues and have more features for cheaper than most nvidia gpus

And they won’t burn your house down 🙂

[versed grotto]

Nvidia GPU’s have always been better

I have at least 7-8 friends who had problems with amd gpu

[rough fern]

Fanboy detected

[versed grotto]

Whatever

Waste ur money

Not my problem

[rough fern]

Ok what were the issues and what cards where they

[lofty geode]

Tbf the drivers sucked a few years ago

[uneven lava]

😭

[uneven lava]

💀

[uneven lava]

ong

[uneven lava]

No u

[rough fern]

What does that mean I’m just wondering

[uneven lava]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=On God

@ocean jewel https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G2pffy

If you’re at 1440p or 4k you may want to get a 7500f instead and spend more on the gpu

[lofty geode]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b7fNFs

[versed grotto]

Get a 2080 ti

It’s better

[uneven lava]

💀

bro is just trolling

[lavish quest]

Yeah it is better. You should swap your 4090 for it!!!!

[lofty geode]

Everything except the case is great

[lavish quest]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dFPj7R

I did save some on the mobo

Fx900 isn't necc bc xg7000 back in stock

Rest is fine

[versed grotto]

Damn bro

Where did u come from

[knotty fulcrum]

Than a 7900 XTX? No.

People who have problems on AMD cards forgot to uninstall the NVIDIA drivers.

Which is stupid. Like how the fuck do you forget to uninstall the NVIDIA drivers after buying an AMD card?

[uneven lava]

Sometimes when you uninstall the nvidia drivers they don’t really get uninstalled

You have to use DDU

[knotty fulcrum]

EXACTLY

(If you don't use DDU, shit won't work)

[uneven lava]

Like I don’t understand how windows is so dogshit in this regard

On linux you can have literally all the gpu drivers installed and there are no issues

In fact amd and intel gpus literally use the same driver

[knotty fulcrum]

Other than enabling proton, Linux gaming is pretty much and out-of-box experience

Windows you gotta install drivers and shi

[uneven lava]

Yep

Unless nvidia

Then suffering

NVK is actually merged into mesa now

W

[knotty fulcrum]

Yeah, NVIDIA there's some extra steps

[knotty fulcrum]

Oh???

Nice

[uneven lava]

So 1 driver for any gpu vendor then

[knotty fulcrum]

How well does NVK work in comparison to the other drivers?

[uneven lava]

1/5-1/4 the performance rn

It is faster in some games

Compared to proprietary driver

[knotty fulcrum]

And I'm gonna assume pretty much everything is faster than Nouveau lol?

[uneven lava]

yeah 💀

[rough geyser]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/anit24/saved/8mmNyc rate my list

[burnt pulsar]

To chime in on the hate for amd gpus, I've always had trouble with them. I tried updating to amd for the first time ever when I did my current build. Went with the 6800xt, kept getting crashes in games. Exchanged it for another 6800xt, still, same issues. Tried driver only as well as full. Started thinking it was my psu or something else. Still, same issues after contacting seasonic and running their tests. Ended up upgrading to a 7900xt, same issues, then finally 7900xtx.

Swapped it for my old 1080ti, never had any issues. Ended up getting a great deal from a friend for a 4080, and haven't had issues since. Been almost a year now.

[knotty fulcrum]

but did you use ddu?

[burnt pulsar]

Oh god yes

[rough geyser]

Let me guess no DDU

[burnt pulsar]

I did everything. From under volting to providing more power, editing registery files for alot of the known issues, using ddu several times.

[rough geyser]

I think you are straight lieing

[knotty fulcrum]

That is a bit odd

[burnt pulsar]

Want to see my Amazon purchase history to prove it lol

[rough geyser]

Sure

[burnt pulsar]

Believe it or not, some people just have issues with amd

[rough geyser]

you are over exaggerating the problem I feel

[knotty fulcrum]

I don't think you are lying, but I think that based on what people say, it's gotta be luck. You were on Windows11/linux instead of Windows 10, right?

[rough geyser]

There are problems with

[burnt pulsar]

No matter the game, it would crash at least once every hour.

[rough geyser]

Psu?

[uneven lava]

make your own thread

[rough geyser]

I made for Op

[uneven lava]

also that list is private

[burnt pulsar]

Its an a rated seasonic model off the psu list

Forget the exact one, buts it's a 1000 watt

[burnt pulsar]

It was windows 11, even went back down to windows 10 for a fresh install. I spent forever trying to get it to work over almost 3 months.

I loved the software, ease of oc'ing, fan curves, setting custome profiles. Loved it. Just didn't work for me.

[knotty fulcrum]

I'd imagine Windows 10 is too old for modern GPUs

[burnt pulsar]

Duno, I was at my wits end with trying things out.

[knotty fulcrum]

You capped your FPS?

[burnt pulsar]

Mmmhmm

Even did weird stuff like setting my ram to default value off xmp

Even did the MPO fix, if you are familiar with that

This is where is got stranger though. Disabling MPO, allowed me to run driver only more stable then the full install

Like, I would have a driver crash maybe once a day, rather then ever hour or two

[knotty fulcrum]

was your motherboard slot a PCIe 4.0+ and not a 3.0?

[burnt pulsar]

This was on a new build, z790 board

So yes

I love discussing this issue with people as it befuddled the shit out of me. But I still stand by amd, and I enjoyed the performance, just their drivers suck

[knotty fulcrum]

Would you say the Mesa drivers (Linux) are better than the Adrenalin drivers (Windows)?

Coz it sounds it sounds like you've tried everything possible on the Windows side

[rough fern]

Did you try reinstalling windows?

[burnt pulsar]

Did not try Linux only

[burnt pulsar]

Ohhhh yes lol, even did repairs too

Forget the commands for it, but yes did all of that

[knotty fulcrum]

Well, I have a Ryzen 7600X and a 7800 XT coming, if I remember, I'll tell you how it goes coz I'll be running Linux on my new PC for sure

[rough fern]

Almost my exact specs

I just have the non x variant of the 7600x

[burnt pulsar]

I would guess Linux being so barebones will have a better chance. I also admit, I'm sure my issues are isolated. I just don't know what else I could have done. Because soon as I ran ddu, swapped in a nvidia gpu, have had zero issues.

[rough fern]

Probably just unlucky nothing you could have done

It just didn’t like your pc

Though was cpu intel or amd?

[burnt pulsar]

Intel, 13600k

[rough fern]

That’s probably why amd gpus don’t like intel cpus

[burnt pulsar]

That's another thing I tend to notice. Going amd cpu / gpu together tend to yield better results with software

[rough fern]

They work but not well

[burnt pulsar]

Yup, I was able to score a 4080 for 700$, so it all worked out in the endm

[knotty fulcrum]

Of course. From the people I've spoken with, Intel CPU + AMD GPU is indeed possible, but AMD for both generally works better 👍

[rough fern]

Maybe it will be the same with intel gpus

[burnt pulsar]

I'm honestly impressed with Intel gpus and how they are holding up

We needed another contender in the ring

[uneven lava]

they need to fix their shit on linux though

you remember how at launch the performance was pretty bad and they quickly fixed it in the next couple weeks?

[burnt pulsar]

A friend of mine runs Ubuntu and says the same

[uneven lava]

yeah they still perform the same as on launch in linux

intel never fixed them 💀

[burnt pulsar]

They are probably figuring Linux users only make up like 10% of the market, so it's at the back of the list

[rough fern]

Linux gets put to the side to often for drivers and support

They should focus on it more since there actually are people who use it

Like a major amount

[burnt pulsar]

10% isn't small in my mind, but to a multibillion dollar company, probably not unfortunately

[knotty fulcrum]

I thought Linux users only made up 4-5% of the market? (Of course I use both Windows and Linux)

[burnt pulsar]

It might be @knotty fulcrum

2.7% according to 2023 lol

[knotty fulcrum]

I wish I could use Windows 11 on my laptop, but I'm pretty much stuck with 10, because older NVIDIA cards don't have good Wayland support and Windows 11 doesn't work well with dual-core CPUs iirc

[knotty fulcrum]

rn it's about 4.03%

[uneven lava]

nah they just lazy af

they've had a new kernel driver in the works for a year now lol

[knotty fulcrum]

im sure at least part of the 6.1% of 'unknown' is Linux. Some of it anyway

[burnt pulsar]

My one laptop runs POP!_os

It mainly just for steam games and plex

[knotty fulcrum]

My hardware is actually kindof ideal Windows 10 hardware imo, 2 TB SATA SSD, 16 GB DDR3 dual-channel, i7 4500U, and GT 750M 2 GB

[uneven lava]

I'm 2 years sober

[burnt pulsar]

Lol

You should look into POP! If you haven't yet

[uneven lava]

look closer at my profile pic

[knotty fulcrum]

I might eventually, not in a good position to factory reset or install a new OS rn

[burnt pulsar]

Lol

[knotty fulcrum]

NO WAY

[rough fern]

I don’t get it

[uneven lava]

it's the arch linux logo at 10% transparency 💀

[knotty fulcrum]

lol yea

[rough geyser]

Bro wtf

[uneven lava]

@knotty fulcrum you wanna see smth else cursed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1218758568119898122/1218798992587096094/Screenshot_20240316_225158.webp?ex=6608fa04&is=65f68504&hm=0c1ddf6dbe6fa49bad7577dca8cf6086c750baf554335340215e6092236a238a&

[knotty fulcrum]

LOL WHAT

[rough geyser]

https://github.com/MrGlockenspiel/activate-linux

[knotty fulcrum]

That's cursed lmfao

[rough geyser]

*Yes"

[grizzled dock]

Fuck off

Uneducated freak

AMD Drivers were arguably better than Nvidias a few weeks ago

Before geforce app released

Now they're equal

[burnt pulsar]

Nvidia app you say?

[versed grotto]

Mystic back the fuck off

Get a life please

[knotty fulcrum]

You haven't provided any way that AMD is shit

[versed grotto]

Brother it’s called sarcasm

Hello ??

Don’t take everything literal

I don’t give a shit if he buys a amd or nvidia

I literally typed that a 2080 ti is better

Pleaseeee get a life

[knotty fulcrum]

So then why the hell are you so mad in this message??

[rough geyser]

Hmm

[versed grotto]

Because mystic is cursing at me

I got cursed at 3 times

Because I said nvidia is better

Like please get a life guys

Buy an amd idgaf

really

[rough geyser]

Sometimes

[burnt pulsar]

I mean, I think nvidia is better spec vs spec, but it isn't always about that.

[rough geyser]

I think 470 S TI is better than 7900 XT

[versed grotto]

I never liked amd amd gpu cpu

[knotty fulcrum]

What do you mean by this? I'm living aren't I?

[burnt pulsar]

But I also listed a slew of issues I had, so I am being more biased. If my amd gpu worked fine I would be a fan boy for them. But I also own stock in amd, so .... there's that

[versed grotto]

They are saying 7900 XT is better than a 4090

Which is bullshit

[knotty fulcrum]

I think the problem may have been the Intel CPU

[versed grotto]

No

[knotty fulcrum]

Where did they say that though?

[versed grotto]

Gpu

[burnt pulsar]

I'm thinking too, and it could have been the configuration, with my psu, with certain other drivers .... who knows man. But after like 200+ hours trouble shooting I caved and went back to nvidia.

[versed grotto]

I’m getting a amd cpu too

But getting 4090 next to it

Why would I get a 7900 XT

It’s worse

[burnt pulsar]

Performance wise, no, 7900xtx or xt does not compete with 4090. But when you factor cost etc, it becomes a different story entirelly

[knotty fulcrum]

Mesa drivers are 1000% better than Adrenaline I'll tell y'all how it goes on Linux

I thought that the 7900 XT competes with the 4080 and the XTX competes with the 4080 ti

[burnt pulsar]

No, 7900xtx is a bit better then a 4080

I'd say like a 4080ti yeah, sure

I think it's like 10% better then a 4080 im some titles, and in others it's worse. Especially if you factor in ray tracing or work related stuff

But again .... $1k vs 1.3, and a 4090 about 2k

If you have an amd cpu then tend to do better also.

But amd drivers are poo, and their cpus have alot of issues with memory timings. Just depends on how much research you do, and what fits your budget.

[knotty fulcrum]

Alright, I'll just have to wait and see how the Mesa drivers perform

[knotty fulcrum]

Just curious, in comparison to what?

[grizzled dock]

Back the fuck off?

Why should I back the fuck off?

Because you're spastic?

because you know you're wrong and can't handle the truth from literally everyone 😂

Nah I ain't backing the fuck off go ride Nvidias little sausage sum more

[grizzled dock]

No one is saying that 😂😂

You're just delusional

[grizzled dock]

Because I'm not a 12 yr old Nvidia d rider like you

[grizzled dock]

It isn't

[grizzled dock]

Amd drivers aren't poo 😂😂 they were better than Nvidias just a few weeks ago

It's because Nvidia fan boys can't uninstall their Nvidia drivers properly with ddu

Causing amd to crash etc

Memory timings?

Not really they're not bad

amd without tweaks can take 6000-6400mhz quite easily, then if you can tune the cpu and do some shit with the memory controller, you can get higher

Stop hating on AMD because it's better

[lavish quest]

Bro is on a diss track from drake

[lavish quest]

💩??

[versed grotto]

Brother

[versed grotto]

4090 is better. That’s all I said

[lavish quest]

Yeah it is. For nearly 2x price

If not getting 4090, 7900xtx is the next best card. Actually beside 4090 nvid is kinda useless unless productivity.

[versed grotto]

Yeah

I didn’t argue anything

I didn’t see that he had a budget

[knotty fulcrum]

Read @burnt pulsar's message history

[sudden hound]

In rasterization, the 7900xtx is at worst 80% of the performance of the 4090 for at or almost at half the price

What a heated discussion 😂

AMD’s price to performance is unmatched by nvidia. unless you want nvidias tensor core features (rt or any of their ai stuff) or have a $5000 budget for the most expensive pc, AMD will be the better choice

And no, the 2080ti has never and will never come close to the 7900xtx

[lavish quest]

More like 2.5k

You can get a 4090 setup for 2.5k easily

[rough geyser]

Lol

give me a lisy

list*

[lavish quest]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GC8hJy. A bit over lol

And the psu might be bomb

Can do 2.5k with microcenter bundle

[rough geyser]

LOL

MID motherborad

MID Ram

MID SSD

Nice cooler but cools ugly

And ofc the psu that might be bomb

AND still not 2.5k

[rough geyser]

you are funny

[knotty fulcrum]

Good SSD actually, but mid ram and bad mobo

[lavish quest]

Yeah

[lavish quest]

Well ram is goos

It's cl30363676

Mobo is mid

Psu idk

[knotty fulcrum]

I know of similar RAM for like $3-5 less

[rough geyser]

let me see on ssd teir list

[lavish quest]

No

[knotty fulcrum]

It's what I'm using in my PC

[lavish quest]

Actually one of the best ssds

Crazy fast

And a steal price

Beats the sabrent rocket 4 pro

And so many other 150+$ drives

[lavish quest]

....?

Only thing wrong with this list

Is mobo, borderline too

And psu

A couple days ago the msi 4090 was 1599

So it was possible a couple days ago

[knotty fulcrum]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LwqYz6

Kinda fixed it

RAM is more rn but usually it's less

[rough geyser]

still not 2.5k

[knotty fulcrum]

2.5k we'd have to settle for all kinda mid parts

[rough geyser]

for 4090 pc you need to budget for 3k is all im saying

[rough geyser]

A620M good chipset?

[uneven lava]

No 😭

[rough geyser]

bro people will make fun of you if you a 4090

with such mid parts

[knotty fulcrum]

Nah not really

[rough geyser]

bro 💀

conclusion, for 4090 pc you need to budget for 3k.

[knotty fulcrum]

I have the B650M + WiFi version of that mobo

[knotty fulcrum]

yeah

[rough geyser]

FAILED

[lavish quest]

It's close enough. Specislly bc he said 5k

[sudden hound]

How?

[lavish quest]

Could**

The msi 4090 was 1600 flat

Was

Now cheapest 4090 is 1820

The 1600 left 900$ for rest

[rough geyser]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bvqYz6

[sudden hound]

It’s at least $3000 if you want decent other components

[knotty fulcrum]

Bro what

[rough geyser]

EPIC LIST

[sudden hound]

That would be bottlenecked even at 4K

[lavish quest]

470$ for cpu mobo and ram

[rough geyser]

best pc for 5000$

BRO IT'S A JOKE

[lavish quest]

Ik

[rough geyser]

oops caps

imagin tho

we need to get linus to do this kind of stuff

cheapest new pc WITH 4090

[lavish quest]

900
470 on ram cpu mobo
50$ phanteks xt ult case
120 xg7000
150$ psu be quiet 12m 1200w
42.99$ phantom evo

And that's 834$

Roughly

That leaves 1670 for gpu. The msi one was 1600. Now its possible

With high quality components too

Thanks to micro center

😎

[knotty fulcrum]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/krYp4M

This is a pretty solid 4090 build for right under $3k

[sudden hound]

lol

[lavish quest]

No air100 for this budget

[knotty fulcrum]

Do you really need 1200W when 1K watts will suffice?

[rough geyser]

how about this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QXYp4M

[lavish quest]

It doesnt.

[rough geyser]

it make like some sence

[lavish quest]

You can eat 1000w with xtx oc'd. 4090 needa 1200w

[rough geyser]

(not really)

[lavish quest]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vWzmHG

[lavish quest]

This is best

[sudden hound]

I’d personally upgrade a few to get an even 3k tbh

[rough geyser]

ofc if you spend more then you get better stuff

Unless you buy intel

14900KS

[sudden hound]

Utterly useless cpu

[rough geyser]

More money = less performce

[knotty fulcrum]

For the sake of argument and/or comparison, this is my rig
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Hanouzz/saved/Yp4tCJ

[rough geyser]

and 3x power draw

[rough geyser]

7500F

just OC it better then 7600X

[sudden hound]

Eh

[rough geyser]

this is my list

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/anit24/saved/4jBzZL

[sudden hound]

Silicone lottery

[knotty fulcrum]

Already purchased the 7600X + AliExpress tho + iGPU coz what if I need to sell my GPU?

[rough geyser]

makes sence

[sudden hound]

That white tax (don’t take this wrong you, know what I mean)

[rough geyser]

ik

[knotty fulcrum]

In conclusion, 7600X was cheaper than the non-X and has an iGPU for if I ever do a GPU swap

[rough geyser]

white = looks nice

and for 3k

may as well

[rough geyser]

What about GT 710?

[knotty fulcrum]

my laptop actually has a GT 750M

[sudden hound]

Not worth it for me but yes

[knotty fulcrum]

Just ordered the XG7000 2 TB NVMe SSD, RX 7800 XT 16 GB graphics card, and the Montech Air 100 aRGB case

[rough geyser]

nice

[lavish quest]

Ayo

[rough geyser]

Show us the build after

[sudden hound]

#1019713714968088586

[knotty fulcrum]

of course

Building this upcoming Sunday and Monday (not today and tomorrow, but a week from now)

[rough geyser]

K

[rough fern]

I’m sorry is the Wii holding up that shelf?

[knotty fulcrum]

Nope, just fits conveniently under it

[rough fern]

Ok

[versed grotto]

Wait

Who’s the owner of this post

This has been going on for 3 days now

[buoyant fog]

Ignore him he’s always telling people to get 4090s

[versed grotto]

I just said 4090 is the best Gpu

I didn’t see his budget

[buoyant fog]

this is EXACTLY what you say EVERY time you reccomend a 4090 (which is every time you suggest something)

a 4090 costs 2.5x what a 7900xtx costs

[lofty geode]

Closer to 1.8x

[buoyant fog]

no a xtx can be had for $800 4090 if your lucky 1900 if your normal then 2000-2200

[lofty geode]

$800?!??

And 4090s are only like $1800 not $2200

[versed grotto]

If u have the budget get 4090

I got it for 1800

And the rest of the pc is 1200

If not get 4070 ti or something

Amd amd combo is not as good

[buoyant fog]

yeah

[buoyant fog]

please show me a $1800 4090

[uneven lava]

💀

4090 is a dogshit gpu

[versed grotto]

What is better

Tell me

7900 ? 💀

[uneven lava]

an XTX

paying over double the price for less than 20% extra performance is just...

no

[versed grotto]

Alr bro

U broke

We get it

No need to be insecure

[uneven lava]

💀

nah

I just don't like wasting money

I literally have $5000 rn and I'm considering maybe dropping $500 on a gpu in 6 months

[buoyant fog]

Do you own a 4090?

[versed grotto]

I do

[buoyant fog]

How old are you

[versed grotto]

I just bought it actually

18

Any other questions?

[buoyant fog]

No

[lofty geode]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7srqqs/msi-rtx-4090-gaming-slim-24g-geforce-rtx-4090-24-gb-video-card-rtx-4090-gaming-slim-24g

???

[buoyant fog]

Wow that’s oddly cheap

Still overpriced and a waste of money but low for a 4090

and 2.2x more than a xtx

[versed grotto]

Alr bro

U want the most optimal

But I want the best

Let’s just agree to disagree

[lavish quest]

not really

i had a guy on ZTT server buy the MSI one at 1599 the other day

like a week ago

but ye

[versed grotto]

Me when I don’t know what I’m talking about

[lavish quest]

bro. i know you tryna be helpful but your actually dumb af and were recco a 2080ti vs XTX. Please, if you dont the the fuck your talking about SHUT THE FUCK UP

[versed grotto]

Brother

I told him that I was trolling when I typed that

Are u autistic

U are taking it too deep just like ur mom lil bro chill out

[uneven lava]

besides even if you want performance you can just buy a nitro+ and OC it

https://tpucdn.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-nitro/images/oc-cyberpunk.png

draws 500W though 💀

[versed grotto]

Electric bill goes crazy

[uneven lava]

ong