#4k budget

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west iron
stray sand
manic compass
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I'd pay the tenner for rgb ram

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Same with my better perf cooler js bc we cam

west iron
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all let him know

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thanks

stray bloom
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||32 is better for OCing and 64 is unnecessary for gaming, I got it cause I could||

past geyser
stray bloom
copper kite
stray bloom
past geyser
copper kite
stray bloom
stray bloom
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So yeah that too

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Also I'd want a 1200W there

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Like a GF3 1200W like what I have

copper kite
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i usually dont use pcpartpicker

stray bloom
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Cooler is insanely pricey

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Let's get an LF3

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Why 64 gigs?

stray bloom
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Why?

copper kite
stray bloom
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Pricey ass LCDs

stray bloom
copper kite
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so you can flex

stray bloom
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You do also get better OCing speeds with 32

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Also here in Ryzen we can't go past like 6600

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But over on Intel that's not an issue

copper kite
stray bloom
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It is a small difference though

copper kite
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i have 32 and i am often on the limit

stray bloom
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Those 4 gigs likely would have been fine in the page file

copper kite
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i had like a programm called figma open in a big file and it used 20gigs

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personally i always configure 48

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its the golden middle

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but like its 4k

stray bloom
copper kite
stray bloom
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Remember to do some tuning though cause XMP is shit

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My RAM at 6200 is going to be better than that stock id bet because of the garbage subtimings

copper kite
stray bloom
west iron
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That's what he has decided so far

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Any problems ?

stray bloom
west iron
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What ram should he get

stray bloom
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No need for an X670

west iron
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Send

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I remember hearing about c30 vs whatever last time I was here

stray bloom
west iron
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I forgot the difference tho

stray bloom
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No reason to not go for it unless it's more expensive by a decent bit

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And the motherboard?

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Why is it an X670?

west iron
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No idea

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Him and another friend of mine put it together

west iron
stray bloom
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But there isn't really any OCing you can do with a 3D chip

west iron
stray bloom
west iron
stray bloom
west iron
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He wants black

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I all ready told him about that

jagged dock
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MSI b650-a WiFi

west iron
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Can't find that

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On pcpartpickee

jagged dock
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1 sec

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Tbh

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An x670e at this budget

stray bloom
jagged dock
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Isn't completely unjustifiable

jagged dock
stray bloom
jagged dock
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Quality b650s are pretty much an x670 these days

stray bloom
jagged dock
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Mobos really matter when it comes to intel tbh

jagged dock
jagged dock
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And people like to squeeze every drop out of them via oc too

west iron
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He sent me this

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Gigabytes bad right

jagged dock
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No that motherboard is fine

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pretty much the b650

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Msi

west iron
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Ah

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He really wants tforce ram

jagged dock
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Nothing wrong with that

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But the ram in that list

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Is shit

west iron
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Yeah I keep telling him that

scarlet gull
jagged dock
scarlet gull
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you do actually need more than 32gb but only for really shitty optimized games

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like star citizen

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well even star citizen doesn't use more than 32gb most of the time

west iron
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💀💀

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jagged dock
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Tell him he's an idiot

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He chose CL38 ram

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what a dumbass

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Anyone who says CL38 ram is fine is uneducated

west iron
stray bloom
jagged dock
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I'm a dumbass

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He didn't chose CL38?

stray bloom
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But I don't think that needs 64

west iron
scarlet gull
jagged dock
west iron
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He did

jagged dock
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Tell him to never fucking talk to me like that again

scarlet gull
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💀

jagged dock
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Otherwise I'm going to get the ram and stick it up his arse

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and run it on XMP

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overclocked

scarlet gull
jagged dock
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So it burns his insides

scarlet gull
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CL38 is actual garbage

jagged dock
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Fr

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Like wtf?

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If you want 64gb

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Im not sure a cl30 2x32 tforce kit exists

scarlet gull
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even JEDEC SODIMMS are CL34

jagged dock
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fr

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Even pre built manufacturers

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Don't go above cl36 most of the time

west iron
jagged dock
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😂 unless it's a shitty Amazon one

jagged dock
# west iron

'I DIDNT KNOW' he was quite confident when he told me he didn't put CL38 😂😂😂

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what a nonce

scarlet gull
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ok time to me to absolutely murder the aesthetics of this build

jagged dock
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Everyone, is CL30 better or CL38?

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React with the green tick if cl30

west iron
jagged dock
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Going to avoid pinging

jagged dock
stray bloom
scarlet gull
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@west iron just tell them to get in this server

jagged dock
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I can get some of the most knowledgeable pc builders in this server they will all tell you cl30

stray bloom
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Just do 6000 and OC it up

jagged dock
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And yes as @stray bloom said

scarlet gull
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is this the pcmr discord

stray bloom
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I can't boot on 6600

jagged dock
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6600 might be too much for the memory controller or whatever

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also

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it doesn't benefit performance

stray bloom
jagged dock
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to be anywhere near noticeable

stray bloom
scarlet gull
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even CL32 isn't worth

stray bloom
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Just run at whatever's stable, like 6200 for me. Remember to do your subtimings though

scarlet gull
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because it's usually the same price

jagged dock
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A guy who has watched 1-2 YouTube videos about pcs could probably tell you cl30 is better

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Imo

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6400 CL32/6000 CL30

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are the best options

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But my recommendation is cl30 6000

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it's just sometimes 6400 cl32 can be cheaper

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At big amounts of ram

west iron
jagged dock
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15 dollars more?

west iron
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He admits it's better but it's too expensive? And he won't joib

jagged dock
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His point doesn't stand

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he's an idiot I'm so sorry

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he was 85$ off

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and says his point still stands?

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what a twat

scarlet gull
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it has been cheapified

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wait

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wrong ram

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1 sec

jagged dock
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Does his point still stand?

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6400mhz cl30 ram for 198$

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64gb

scarlet gull
jagged dock
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I don't think it stands further

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😂😂😂

scarlet gull
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the lumina kit is so on god

jagged dock
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His point fell over ages ago

scarlet gull
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it's in the build I sent

jagged dock
scarlet gull
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@west iron also the difference is very much noticeable in 1% lows

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it can be up to

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iirc like 10-15%

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for $15

jagged dock
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Also I'm sure it impacts system responsiveness

stray bloom
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Ask me how I know

west iron
stray bloom
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Even at 1.5V it didn't work

scarlet gull
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forgot to say

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you may have to tune/downclock

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still a really good kit though

jagged dock
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Somebody's mother would say otherwise

scarlet gull
# west iron

bro does not have a single inkling of what he's talking about

stray bloom
jagged dock
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The things I would say

scarlet gull
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💀

jagged dock
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If I didn't get them deleted instantly

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By automod

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fucking hell

scarlet gull
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automod when I add a y to the 14900KS as a joke

west iron
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He said he will get cl30

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💀

jagged dock
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I still somewhat doubt that

west iron
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Fr

scarlet gull
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society if people admitted their mistakes

jagged dock
west iron
scarlet gull
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society if people politicians admitted their mistakes
my bad politicians don't count as people

jagged dock
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If I had known how much of an idiot he was

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I would have tried to persuade him to get cl42

scarlet gull
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💀

west iron
jagged dock
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man

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if I had somehow got him to buy 5200mhz cl42

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And then downclock it to ddr4 speeds

jagged dock
scarlet gull
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I got a kit for them

jagged dock
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Omg

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if I could somehow tell them

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Ram doesn't matter

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Fuck

stray bloom
copper kite
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anyone who says at a 4k budget 32gb ram is enough is stupid

jagged dock
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You're stupid in general, your opinion doesn't matter

stray bloom
jagged dock
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He's dumb

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Leave him

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If someone had a 10K budget and were playing 1080p he would find ways to spend it all

stray bloom
west iron
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16 is fine for almost anything

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32 is probably great

scarlet gull
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32 is becoming the new minimum

jagged dock
stray bloom
copper kite
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48 best

west iron
jagged dock
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16gb

stray bloom
# jagged dock Yep

I'm happy with my 64 though cause it's a balance and I can't go past 6200 anyways

jagged dock
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I have 32gb

stray bloom
jagged dock
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I think it's the sweet spot

scarlet gull
copper kite
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i have 32gb and i am often on the limit

scarlet gull
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but some games will use more than 16

west iron
stray bloom
scarlet gull
copper kite
stray sand
scarlet gull
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isn't that a web app?

scarlet gull
stray bloom
copper kite
copper kite
jagged dock
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I video edit on premiere pro in 4k with countless effects, 60fps footage

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I never go anywhere near 32

stray sand
copper kite
jagged dock
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That does not use 32gb ram

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Canva probably uses more resources than that

stray sand
stray bloom
copper kite
west iron
stray sand
west iron
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Premiere pro works fine tho

copper kite
stray sand
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I know

scarlet gull
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@copper kite what browser?

copper kite
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Desktop App

scarlet gull
copper kite
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yea

scarlet gull
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(desktop app uses electron)

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maybe you could try firefox

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it uses less ram in my experience

copper kite
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i use firefox main, still draws some gigs, i can check how much

scarlet gull
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but idk if the figma desktop app has any specific features compared to the web version

copper kite
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4 gigs

stray bloom
scarlet gull
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eh

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if you're maxing 32 gigs I would just buy 64

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so I don't have to worry about it

copper kite
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i dont worry about it, i dont use figma anymore, but i had long time where ram was close to full

scarlet gull
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I am now running mismatched kits

copper kite
scarlet gull
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yes 💀

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I never use more than like

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a third of it

stray bloom
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Performance boost

scarlet gull
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nah

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nope

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I made a mistake and bought a shitty 64 gig kit

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no performance difference

stray bloom
scarlet gull
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should have got b dies for $10 more

scarlet gull
stray bloom
scarlet gull
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I don't want to be swapping while I play some of my games

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cs1 and star citizen are ram hogs

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I've seen cities skylines 1 use 32 gigs of ram on its own

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like just the game itself

stray bloom
scarlet gull
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if I remove the 64gb kit

stray bloom
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Just save a profile for each

scarlet gull
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the 16gb kit on its own

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doesn't OC any more

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I can decrease the cas latency by one but that's it

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18 vs 19 though

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they're both garbage timings

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I'm gonna tune the secondaries at some point

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maybe I should sell the 2 kits and get b dies

stray bloom
scarlet gull
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@stray bloom this is the kit I'm eyeing

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then OC to 3600

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and tighten timings

stray bloom
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Let me post that in the OCing channel

scarlet gull
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but yeah that's a good idea

manic compass
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Figma eaaats ram

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I used it throughout last project and it was always on my 64gb ram knees

scarlet gull
manic compass
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Was

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I now have more ram

hidden flume
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llama

west iron
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Llamaa