Hello, i'm looking to upgrade my CPU and my GPU, right now ive got a 1660 super and a ryzen 5 3600, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DbWjCd
It says i would need an update on my BIOS to support the CPU. however on msi's website https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK/support#bios Im not seeing any update about addind support for the ryzen 7 5800x3d. is that normal ?
#pc upgrade
lean tide
dim hornet
Hello, i'm looking to upgrade my CPU and my GPU, right now ive got a 1660 super ...
what are you doing with the pc that the ryzen 5 3600 and 1660 super isnt enough?
lean tide
what are you doing with the pc that the ryzen 5 3600 and 1660 super isnt enough?
i wanna play more recent games without being stuck on low/50fps
dim hornet
i wanna play more recent games without being stuck on low/50fps
which games u talking
dim hornet
like world of warcraft?
lean tide
yea$
dim hornet
Raiding shouldnt be that low
dim hornet
this hardware is pretty good for just playing wow
lean tide
yea it is
when doing dungeons as 5 players its fine
though raiding is hell
when you get more than 20+
its terrible
dim hornet
Seems like the ryzen 5 3600 should be more than enough for those games
the gpu tho
thats probably the issue
i mean i run my 3600 with a 6800xt (radeon version of a 3080)
and i have no issues with games all the way up to like starfield
So id probably say uh
lean tide
only change gpu for now ?
dim hornet
yeah i mean id probably try to save the cpu if u dont really need to upgrade now
since youd be ugprading to the 5800x3d
which is a great cpu its jsut
still no upgrade path past iot
so you're still just gonna have to buy a new motherboard in the future
Do u have a parts list for your build currently?
dim hornet
okay
lean tide
above*
dim hornet
are you okay with used parts?
lean tide
buying used parts ?
dim hornet
yeah
lean tide
nah, im in europe so we got warranty for new products
dim hornet
aight
lean tide
2y warranty is not too bad
dim hornet
nah, im in europe so we got warranty for new products
I mean its only to save money
u still usually get a warranty with used parts assuming u buy from like newegg themselves or some of the different ebay sellers
lean tide
idk
dim hornet
What resolution are you playing at?
dim hornet
oh yeah forgot about that
Yeah so id probably just buy the 6700xt u put with ur list and just see how that does
since used is off the table i think the 6700xt is just going to be ur best choice unless you want to get a better gpu with the money u arent using on the cpu
though id probably put that towards a better monitor
what country are you in so i can actually check prices
assuming its on pc part picker
those are all the countries available
lean tide
france
dim hornet
aight so with how close the 6700xt and 6800 are in price
i would probably just get the rx6800
its around a 17fps difference at 1440p for only 30 euro more
lean tide
yea but will my PSU be fine ?
dim hornet
totally
your rm650x will be perfectly fine with the rx6800
its already pretty high quality + the 6800 doesnt use much power compared to other cards
plucky walrus
I think you should go with R5 7600/7600X
dim hornet
it used to be hte worlds most efficient card according to techpowerup https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6800/31.html
dim hornet
I think you should go with R5 7600/7600X
This is a good idea though i think its overkill saying the games they are playing it isnt really needed
dim hornet
I mean i just wouldnt buy the 7600 cause its gonna be a pretty expensive upgrade
lean tide
I think you should go with R5 7600/7600X
this isn't possible with my motherboard
plucky walrus
Whats his budget?
dim hornet
Whats his budget?
never provided though i just assumed theyd want to keep it as cheap as possible
lean tide
i was fine with 600- 700€ for both cpu & gpu
plucky walrus
this isn't possible with my motherboard
Buy some new. That is kinda old technology
dim hornet
thats about how much the entire upgrade to am5 would be
dim hornet
Buy some new. That is kinda old technology
its really not that old
the ryzen 5 3600 can run perfectly fine in newer games with a 6800xt
plucky walrus
i was fine with 600- 700€ for both cpu & gpu
Then you could def go with 7600 bc it is not expensive, You can buy mboard for ~ 80, and rest of it in GPU — CPU (220 Eur), Mboard (80 Eur), And rest 300/400 in GPU
dim hornet
Then you could def go with 7600 bc it is not expensive, You can buy mboard for ~...
a good am5 mobo is usually around $120+
lean tide
whats up with all the prices being so different ?
dim hornet
whats up with all the prices being so different ?
different sellers if i had to guess
lean tide
770€
plucky walrus
a good am5 mobo is usually around $120+
Yea thats true. I bouth — Gigabyte Gaming X AX
lean tide
vs 400
lean tide
Then you could def go with 7600 bc it is not expensive, You can buy mboard for ~...
cba to change mobo tbh 
dim hornet
here are the cheapest b650 and above mobos in france pcpp
lean tide
id rather just get a whole new pc
dim hornet
the first half decent one with ANY vrm heatsinks is the ASROCK b650m
though i still wouldnt really get that one
this one isnt terrible but again
an extra 30 euro gets u a motherboard with 2 more ram slots, ATX, and more m.2 slots
and a real VRM heatsink and not just a bar of metal'
metal fins gaming
lmao
dim hornet
id rather just get a whole new pc
i mean id agree if u didnt already have some pretty decent parts
like ur case, psu, cpu cooler all of that can stay
They arent bad at all
but i mean back on topic i think your best bet is getting the rx6800
then just seeing how it goes
if it still isnt enough
Then get the 5800x3d
Your motherboard Does support it by the way
lean tide
yea but im not finding which update
plucky walrus
If you have some cooler or nice GPU then you can save it
lean tide
ty
dim hornet
If you have some cooler or nice GPU then you can save it
Why did u pick such expensive parts
thats like $150 over what they had to pay
plucky walrus
Why did u pick such expensive parts
Which one is expensive
lean tide
an extra 30 euro gets u a motherboard with 2 more ram slots, ATX, and more m.2 s...
tf is ATX
dim hornet
The ryzen 5 7600x is just a OC'd 7600, tey both get the same Performance so u choose whichever is cheaper
The ak400 isnt really needed since their cpu cooler would already work for the 7600x
The b650 gaming isnt all that better over the eagle which is $30 less
dim hornet
and the ram is just more expensive than it needs to be
plucky walrus
The ak400 isnt really needed since their cpu cooler would already work for the 7...
7600x doesn't come with cooler
plucky walrus
Just use the cooler they already had
thats true
lean tide
my cooler's fine
dim hornet
lean tide
though its ugly asf its yellow, thank god i don't have a glass 👍
lean tide
i could just paint over it i guess
link is weird cuz i used google translate so its english and not french
or sqhould i go for another brand ?
lean tide
so this ? https://www-amazon-fr.translate.goog/XFX-Speedster-RadeonTM-Graphique-...
though it says its better to have a 750W PSU?
dim hornet
though it says its better to have a 750W PSU?
its not needed
Its like a "im gonna set it really high to cover my ass"
And i mean how would someone tell you what psu you need without knowing your entire system
so it really is just a recommendation
lean tide
realized it's not a B450 i have but the b450 max 
dim hornet
realized it's not a B450 i have but the b450 max <:Think_Stares:8521102406478725...
i mean the b450 max is just better 
from what i remember
its got like higher ram speed support and thats pretty much all the noticable things
lean tide
i mean the b450 max is just better <:shruggy:1064275363989049469>
ought to be
its saying max 
ive had some issues with the gpu btw