Where do I attach an anti static wristband when working with a ps5?

[prime socket]

I recently got a toolkit that comes with a anti static wristband and I’m going to be getting into my ps5 to clean it, I have read a lot of stuff saying it’s unnecessary but I wanted to use it as a precaution, the only trouble is most things online say connect it to a metal case or psu that’s plugged into a socket, but since I’m working with a ps5 most of it is plastic so I’m not sure where I can attach the wristband to? I can’t find any ground plugs that suit my country’s sockets and I also don’t have any grounded metal surface around where I’m working, what can i do? Thanks in advance for any help.

[sturdy condor]

Which country are we speaking of?

[prime socket]

New Zealand, the only one I can find is this one

https://www.groundedkiwi.nz/products/earthing-plug?variant=42562337505474&currency=NZD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImfK_n-zMhAMViaZmAh3rSAZtEAQYAiABEgLYH_D_BwE
It’s like $30 and the website talks about grounding being some healing practice and stuff about relieving stress and better sleeping?? so I have no idea if it would help with what I’m looking to accomplish, I’m looking for a grounding plug for working with electronics and preventing ESD not for some spiritual mumbo jumbo bs

[sturdy condor]

well it is a mumbo jumbo but i just clip mine to the earth pin of our socket here. But you can just clip it into our PC if the case is made out of metal

just make sure there are no compenonts nearby to avoid causing a short

[prime socket]

Well I do think esd can be a potential problem the website I linked talks about “grounding” in a different sense, saying it’s used for healing or something lol so I have no idea if this plug would do the same thing as grounding with electronics to prevent esd, but honestly it’s overpriced anyway so it doesn’t matter, I wouldn’t get it, but I’m not working on a pc, I’m working on a ps5 so I don’t have a metal case or something to clip it to

[smoky mortar]

For legal reasons don’t stick things in your outlets

If you are doing a full tear down attach it to the ps5s psu once you get to it

[sturdy condor]

it's perfectly fine to use an outlet ground if you get a proper adapter, attaching it to the psu is like a really really bad idea because you can attach it to the high voltage side by accident, or if the psu faulty you can get shocked, or just make a short making hte problem worse IMO.

On the other hand if he can't figure out how to use an esd strap/where to get a proper parts for one I am not sure he should be thinkering around a PSU at all.

[smoky mortar]

I didn’t me open the psu I meant the outer casing

Don’t open your psu ever unless you qualified to do so

[autumn leaf]

You're supposed to plug that into the wall.

The description is..

Weird.

Though.

If you have ESD wristbands with an alligator clip, you could hook it up into a metal surface that goes into ground.

[sturdy condor]

Okay I am going to level with you, the outer casing SHOULD be grounded but not always (Hell I've seen faulty ones where it was LIVE), or it can be live or whatever voltage if it is not double insulated and it is probably not. And if he clips in on the PSU there is a chance that he will clip it on the grill which is like really close to the high voltage side for good ventilation usually

[smoky mortar]

Idk I’m just going off pc wisdom which is clip it to your case or the outside of your psu which it plugged in

[sturdy condor]

on the other hand I MIGHT be a tad paranoid because of the maximum current leaking mandated by law is 5uA in our devices

PC case yeah because that is a big metal box, connected directly to ground, but PS5 is a power supply inside a plastic enclosure (and that enclosure is what makes it double insulated)

if a pc power supply fails and the metals parts are on live voltage no big deal breaker will kill the circuit right away, inside a plastic case that situation could be there indefinitely since there could be a failure mode where is no way for the electricity to flow anywhere and trip the breaker.
But As I said I am a tad paranoid and getting shocked/burned every second week or so.

[prime socket]

Yea it’s the description on the website that’s throwing me off, cause now I have no idea if it will do the same thing as I’m wanting to do, if it will work the same as “normal” grounding plug, it seems like it but the description mentions nothing about being used for tech and preventing esd so idk if it will work

[prime socket]

Problem is there is no metal surface around where I can work with my ps5 that has metal connections to the ground sadly

[prime socket]

I’m not going that far into my ps5 to reach the psu I don’t think, I’m just removing the fan to clean it and maybe giving the heat sinks a clean from where the fan sits but probably no more than that until a good year or two into owning it when I try give it a full clean, but I’m pretty sure the fan cover and where the fan sits in is metal, could I clip it to that and would that work? And have my ps5 plugged in but turned off at the wall socket?

[prime socket]

I know where how to use an esd strap but there is just no where to clip the thing onto around where I’m working, there’s no metal surface connecting to the ground and the grounding plug I linked dose not mention anything about about being used to prevent esd in its description, if you looked on the website you will see what I’m talking about, its got a weird description and that’s what throwing me off, and looking online there is nothing else I can find in my country that provides any type of grounding plug, but as I have mentioned, the ps5 fan which I’m trying to get into pretty sure it has a metal cover and what it sits in is metal, could I clip the anti static band to that with the ps5 plugged in and switched off at the wall? Would that work?

I found this https://www.synergyelectronics.co.nz/store/clipsal-463sas-mains-ground-plug would this work?

[smoky mortar]

If your just cleaning the fans you don’t need the strap since your not touching any sensitive components

[prime socket]

Ah okay so the fan isn’t really something to worry about getting damaged and just working around the console and picking it up won’t have any potential for damaging anything? If not then that’s good, the strap came in a toolkit that I bought and I just thought I might aswell use it for peace of mind, plus I will probably try clean the heatsinks aswell but just the ones you can get to when removing the fan, and I will get into the rest of it one day to see if I need to give it a real deep clean, which will mean removing the motherboard and what not.

[prime socket]

I emailed them about their “earthing plug” and this is what they said

“Yes and No. The main difference in what people call an ESD plug and our Earthing plug, is the size of the protective resistor. ESD wrist straps have a very large resistor in them which prevent static build up, but they also stop the earth's negative electrons flowing into you which is where more of the benefits of 'Earthing' come from. Our Earthing plugs and very safe to use but they are not ESD.”

[sturdy condor]

Well that makes sense, you can use them for ESD tho. As long as nothing is plugged in and the capacitors are properly discharged.
ESD straps has that 1MOhm resistor so if you touch a live wire by accident it wont be a near short to ground possibly killing you.

[prime socket]

Ok well regardless I have actually found a place in my garage where I can work on stuff, it has a concrete ceiling and wall that has a metal bolt in it near a table I can set up at, so I have just clipped the alligator clip of my anti static mat which is connected to my wrist strap, onto that bolt since it is metal that is inside concrete, which from what I have read online works as grounding if I’m not mistaken?

[sturdy condor]

well yes and no, do you have a multimeter? (For ESD purposes yes I am 99.99% sure it will work)