CPU Dead after 13 years of service needs a new one but...

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Meh for the price time to upgreyed to Ryzen 5

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RIP 🪦

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Yeah scrap the mobo

Is the ram DDR4 or DDR3?

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3

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Ok scrap that too

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Don't think Ryzen runs in ddr3 and even if it did, probably be a disservice

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It doesn’t

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Would be nice if this happened few months from now

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How come?

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Getting movie check 😀

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Ok

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Just sayin' if I buy Ryzen 5 now I won't get the 9 later

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Which one are you planing on upgrading to?

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I have 4 servers on the house and no way to connect a GPU to it

I was planning the 9

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The new 8000 series APUs have the most advanced iGPUs

Equivalent to a 1650 iirc

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5% better

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What is a 8000 series?

Ah zen 5

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zen 4

using the am5 socket

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What's a good GPU these days?

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depends

what games do you play and at what resolution

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Display port?

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???

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I have an ultra wide monitor

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3440x1440?

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SAMSUNG 34" Odyssey G5 Ultra-Wide Gaming Monitor with 1000R Curved Screen, 165Hz, 1ms, FreeSync Premium, WQHD, LC34G55TWWNXZA, 2020, Black https://a.co/d/ixcZrOk

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hmmmmm

I would say get at least an rx6800

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I have a RX 580 but the fans don't turn on when I power up. I have an older cars that I swapped and the fans turn on that. Does the cpu need to post on some cards to have fans turn on? Just wondering if my GPU is fried too

Also considering this possibly a PSU issue too

But if the CPU needs to post for the fans to turn on in this particular card.. maybe it is just the cpu

I'll be back later. Friend of mine has a flat tire I gotta go help

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Okay back

I checked the PSU with a multi meter. All the voltage is correct

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Rip

New psu then

Get a B or A tier psu
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

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No, the voltage is correct

3.3,5,12

Are micro center good boards?

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oh i misread it

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microcenter has an in-house psu brand?

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MSI it turns out

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dont stick to one brand

go off the tier list

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I've used Asus for years.

Limited-time deal: Micro Center AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Desktop Processor 6-core 12-Thread Up to 4.6GHz Unlocked with Wraith Stealth Cooler Bundle MSI B550-A PRO AM4 DDR4 ATX Motherboard PCIe 4.0 M.2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 https://a.co/d/4BGTKd6

Does this like a good deal?

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no

the board and cpu separately are cheaper

$110 for the motherboard and $154 for the cpu (though id recommend a 5600 instead because its the same cpu but cheaper)

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Let me get my laptop out

I already have 2 M.2 drives

As far as spec wise that CPU still has to be better than the 8350

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100%

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Are these the correct M.2 ssd's?

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for what

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That motherboard

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i mean, they'll work fine

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I have an original Intel SSD from 13 years ago.

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though the p3 plus has qlc nand, which isnt recommended for a boot drive (much lower write endurance)

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When I built this system it was top of the line then

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you already have them both from awhile ago?

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Yea never used

Still in box

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oh.....

are they both 500GB p3 plus's?

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Yea

Same exact ones

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That was a mistake

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Why?

I bought them like 2 years ago for another project

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Not very much storage

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Ohhh

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If they were meant for different purposes, then it’s fine

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So I don't store personal data on the main drive

That's why they only 500gb

I have like 6 hard drives in my computer

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I see

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I also hard dual boot Linux is why

I have a hard drive switch

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Hmmmm ok

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I mean I could probably lower that down to 4 drives but meh

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The 5600 is what is in that bundle. Where you thinking of another?

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no, that has the 5600x which is higher clocked

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What's the clock speeds of the two? And which would be better for gaming?

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i would get the 5600, upgrade the cooler and turn on PBO to get more performance

PBO will see thermal headroom and clock the cpu up more

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4.4 to 4.6 😆

Okay, thanks for the heads up. That is a setting in the bios?

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you'll get more performance with a 5600 + better cooler + PBO

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yes

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Man I wish my Ci5 could work on an AM4 socket

It's a massive CPU cooler

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ci5?

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NiC C5

Things a brick 😆

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what platform is it on rn

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AM3+

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it might work

if it doesnt, you can get a thermalright peerless assassin which will be a larger brick, and will definitely be compatible

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Just checked thermaltake's site it doesn't

Goes all the way back to AM2

This it?

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yep, thats the one

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Ram time

Currently I have 32 ddr3 it like to keep that up there

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this is a good kit
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kXbkcf/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gvk

if you want to go cheap as possible, these silicon power sticks will do just fine. they do look pretty ugly though
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7

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I have a case with a cover 😆

I could careless about looks

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ok cool

get the SP ones then

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Lower CL is better right?

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yeah

3200 cl16 is a good bang for the buck for am4

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That ram is like twice as fast as what I have now

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what do you have now

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1600 vengeance something

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what cas latency

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Lol, no idea

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fair

well anyway, this whole build is gonna be so much faster that ram isnt even gonna matter

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Will it run KSP2? Lol

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kerbal space program?

i would assume so

what monitor do you have

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I linked it above. G5

Samsung

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oh yeah

i couldnt remember if that was in this thread or another

it will depend more on what gpu you have

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RX580

But I'll be upgrading that when movie check comes in

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how well does that run 3440x1440

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Runs nice unless you play KSP2 but I have a feeling the CPU was the bottle neck on that. It's like the new old joke "can it run crisis 3?" 😆

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PBO will hopefully help with that

but also, at 1440p ultrawide, its a lot for the gpu to render

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Let it suffer for now 😆

I still get 165mhz

Should that CPU come with thermal paste?

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fair enough

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yeah, itll be on the cooler

if you get the peerless assassin, i think its in a separate tube

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Yea getting that one

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yeah itll either be on the cooler or in a separate tube

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Man, I feel like one of my kids died. I've had this computer lugged around the country. It's gone coast to coast 5 times

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dang

got a lot of life out of it

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Yea. I've even over clocked it for fun a few times. Got it up to 6ghz before

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dang

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That model of CPU held the world record for like 8 years I think it's like 8 or 9 GHz with CO2

Or liquid nitrogen I mean

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thats crazy

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Anything else think I need atm?

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no, i dont think so

but get an rx6800 or something when you upgrade the gpu

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7900?

😆

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what?

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RX7900XT

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that'd be a bit overspeced for a 5600

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really? Awe

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a 7800xt would work better

if you do want radeon 7000

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Pretty sure that RX580 is over speed for that 8350

What do I look for to pair GPU with cpu?

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wdym

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You said that 7900 would pair with the CPU I chose

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it wouldnt

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Right, but why?

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its too powerful for the 5600

it might be close, but im pretty sure the 7900xt would be held back by the 5600

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What's the next step up from the cpu I have now?

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the only upgrade for am4 is the 5800x3d

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They into am5 now?

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yes

if you want am5, we can switch to the 7600

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What's the price point on something like that?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BT6Z6r

this is kinda the basis

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Is it worth $200 thoughm

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if you want the am5 upgradability, id say so

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I was checking steam reported system specs. Seems what you put together is on par with average builds atm

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yeah

zen 4 (ryzen 7000) has a big ipc uplift compared to zen 3 (ryzen 5000)

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ipc?

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instructions per cycle

basically it can do A LOT more with the same 6 cores

its actually about on par with the 5800x3d, but without the 3d vcache (what makes the x3D cpus so fast for gaming)

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What cpu do you have?

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lol, I'll prolly give this computer to my brother for christmas, lol

build another

Alright, parts ordered. Thanks for yout help! @astral karma

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i have a 3600