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pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 2:53 PM

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👋 I've built a new PC somewhat recently and I want to make sure it's operating to it's full potential. I don't really NEED to overclock it specifically - rather just want to make sure everything is optimized. For example, I know the BIOS says my RAM is only running at 3400 mbps but the ram speed is 6400. I'm not sure if it's just the Windows OS, but occasionally it does things I wouldn't expect like freeze up for 10 ish seconds after typing in the PIN. Overall in it's current state, it does everything I need. but I know it's not doing what it could.. Looking for someone to help guide me on what I should be doing/fixing. PC Part Picker: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/KZCzK8 (I tried posting for help in the "Overclocking" but it quickly got lost and no one ever responded)

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dull gazelle Jan 5, 2024, 3:11 PM

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Enable “XMP” in the bios that will set your ram t on the speed on the box but if that is to unstable or cause’s graphics artifacts set like 200 mhz below that se if that works and keep trying till it works

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 3:24 PM

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pulsar lily 👋 I've built a new PC somewhat recently and I want to make sure it's operating...

Two basic things you want to do in BIOS with a system like this.

Enable XMP, there's typically more than one profile to choose from so select the one that gives you the rated speed you want in your system.
Enable Resizable BAR to take full advantage of your graphics card.

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In OS you're going to want to download and install at least the chipset drivers as well as drivers for your graphics card.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 3:38 PM

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Sorry, I was In a meeting for work. I'll try these things now.

If I remember correctly, I tried setting it at 6400 mhz but it didn't work.

I had to reset my CMOS yesterday and When I set the computer Up I had to update some setting in the BIOS to say something along the lines of: "Don't worry there is no CPU Cooler, it's watercooled" Because now when I start it gives me an error/warning for this.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 3:40 PM

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pulsar lily Sorry, I was In a meeting for work. I'll try these things now. If I remember co...

I found the CPU Fan Speed: Ignore setting. So that’s done

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 3:42 PM

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hard peak Two basic things you want to do in BIOS with a system like this. 1. Enable XMP, ...

Where is “Resizable BAR” located?

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 3:44 PM

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pulsar lily Where is “Resizable BAR” located?

I don't know the exact location of it in your BIOS, it varies so much from mobo to mobo. You just have to look for it.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 3:58 PM

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It’s been Booting for well over 10 min. Is this normal

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It’s been going for about 20 min at this point? The light says “Booting” still.

dull gazelle Jan 5, 2024, 4:02 PM

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Wait for another 5 minutes and if nothing happens, turn it off and try again

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:10 PM

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I’ve tried a few times and I still can’t get it to boot correctly. I’ve lowered the DRAM to 6,000 but it still won’t boot normally

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Do I just keep lowering the DRAM frequency?

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Actually! 6,000 worked this time…

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It looks like the re-size BAR is already enabled.

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I closed the bios, and then I got a blue screen. 2x. It went into repair windows but it couldn’t repair?

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:24 PM

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pulsar lily I closed the bios, and then I got a blue screen. 2x. It went into repair windows...

XMP is not stable enough, you're most likely going to have to leave it off.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:24 PM

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I typed my pin in this time… and then it went to “it ran into a problem” blue screen again

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It’s on XMP 2 should I use xmp 1?

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:26 PM

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You can try XMP1 but it's usually not high MHz, rather low CL.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:26 PM

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Can I still set the DRAM frequency at 6000

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:27 PM

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You just saw it being unstable, so no.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:27 PM

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I thought that was the xmp issue?

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:27 PM

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Also don't manually adjust the speed unless you know what you're doing xd

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:28 PM

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That’s what I’m trying to learn

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:28 PM

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Right. Good luck with that.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:29 PM

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?? Why the frustration/disgust? I’m just trying to learn..

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:30 PM

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Since it was already told, you can try XMP or leave it off if it doesn't work.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:31 PM

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I don’t understand the difference or separation between XMP, and manually changing the DRAM frequency. Are they mutually exclusive?

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Are you saying that I can only manually adjust the DRAM frequency if I have XMP enabled?

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:33 PM

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No, manual adjustment is if you want to adjust the RAM outside of it's rated frequencies. XMP on the other hand is basically premade profiles that allow you to run it at the max rated speeds by the manufacturer.

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If XMP is not stable, you're better off leaving it completely off and allow the system to auto adjust to a stable speed.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:34 PM

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Is there something I can do to make XMP stable?

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:34 PM

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You can try a different set of RAM, other than that no.

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If XMP is not stable, then you simply can't run it.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:36 PM

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When you say “stable” is that per speed? Or just in general. Like… it’s not stable at 6400, 6200, 6000, but it could be at 5800? I just need to keep lowering the frequency till I find a stable one?

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When everything is set to auto it looks like it is at 4800.

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:36 PM

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Then you leave it at auto.

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Also stable in general, especially on the OS side.

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If your RAM isn't stable, then you'll get BSODs.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:38 PM

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BSODs?

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:38 PM

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Blue Screens Of Death

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:38 PM

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Ahh.. yeah.

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so I really got a crappy set of ram is what it looks like?

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or is this "normal"

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:39 PM

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Either that, or it's not on your motherboard's QVL

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Solution to both situations would be to replace the RAM.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:40 PM

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Ahh.. Yeah.. it's not officially. I did check that first. but while the MOBO supports 128, there were really no solutions that they approved that high.

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:41 PM

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Then you just have to leave XMP off, it can't run something it isn't rated to do xd.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:41 PM

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how can they say it's able to support 128GB when they don't have any ram approved at that?

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hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:42 PM

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It means that they haven't tested any existing kits in that situation.

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QVL only contains solutions that they have tested extensively.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:43 PM

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makes sense. and there are thousands of options.. they won't test them all..

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:43 PM

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Say for example in your situation they probably have tested 128GB but not any pre-existing kits.

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They may have had two identical kits of 2x32GB for example that they ran together to test for 128GB.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:45 PM

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that makes sense..

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they have "lots" of 2x32 options. just no 4x32

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and.. by lots i mean 13

hard peak Jan 5, 2024, 5:46 PM

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But yeah there's not much else to it then, you just have to leave the XMP off from your system since it's not stable with it.

pulsar lily Jan 5, 2024, 5:46 PM

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Well thanks for explaining all of this to me.. It really does/did help. This was really what i'm looking for..

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So at the end of the day.. I'll make sure i've got the drivers installed (I believe I do already..) and the re-size BAR was already enabled.. so there isn't much to optimize/improve.

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