looking for a relatively small case

[timber granite]

no, its a server that hosts files on your network

[long oriole]

And a San is?

[timber granite]

usually multiple hdds/ssds raided together for more storage than a single drive and for redundancy

[long oriole]

Ahhhhh

[timber granite]

storage area network. if you want to learn more, LTT has several videos about nas's and bought a san from fb marketplace. go watch those videos

[long oriole]

He does?

Thank god

I got 1/4 marks on the nas San test question cus they confuse m3

[timber granite]

yeah, they take some getting-used-to

[burnt dune]

so stock means the fans that come with the casee right

[long oriole]

I love raid 5 🤤

[burnt dune]

do cases always come with fans?

[timber granite]

ignore 100% of the benchmarks without filters

[long oriole]

Nk

No

[burnt dune]

cause obviously i probably plan on getting aftermarket fans,

[timber granite]

because?

[burnt dune]

so if a case has good fans like in the case of the fractal torrent, you basically waste money cause the stock fans are so good

its nothing like stock cpu coolers which are usually bad

case fans can sometimes be super good it seems

[timber granite]

theyre not comparable

[burnt dune]

yes they are.

[timber granite]

no theyre not

[burnt dune]

all im fucking saying is that stock cpu cooler are usually bad

[timber granite]

one is a fan and one is a cooler

[burnt dune]

it would seem that people dont always or usually dont replace the stock case fans

[timber granite]

id recommend replacing them if they're 3 pin fans. if they're 4 pin pwm, like the montech air 903's for example, i'd just leave them

[burnt dune]

pwm is the power thing. i dont remember what it stands for, but pwm are the ones that can turn off basically

[timber granite]

pwm fans have much finer speed control and some can turn off at low loads

[burnt dune]

so it looks like 215 got the best overall 2020 case

[long oriole]

Form factor wen

[burnt dune]

putting aftermarket fans into a case wont change the case layout and design tho so if you swap out the stock case fans for aftermarket case fans

then the increase in thermal performance will be moderately better - slightly better depending on how great the stock case fans already are

[timber granite]

arctic p12/p14's are the best aftermarket fans. 5 pack for like $35

[burnt dune]

meshify 2 got the best mechanical design

[timber granite]

well, not best, but they're a very good fan

[burnt dune]

ill do research on case fans after

cause i can get by with stock case fans

[timber granite]

if your case has pwm fans, dont replace them. there's really no reason to

[burnt dune]

so when they say best out of box thermals

they are saying best stock case fans

basically

not really about an unmodded case exactly but that too

[burnt dune]

oh does this mean no front panel?

[timber granite]

no

it means no dust filter

[burnt dune]

where does the dust filter go?

[timber granite]

for any case without a specific filter (meaning the panel itself filters), it would be panelless

[timber granite]

usually between the front panel and the fan mounts

[burnt dune]

p500a digital got the best noise normalized thermals 2020

[burnt grove]

3 pin fans aren’t really a problem now especially with fractal

They’re fully rpm adjustable and work fine

[timber granite]

They don’t get as quiet

[burnt grove]

Fairly certain the Aspect 12 get quiet enough to where you literally can’t hear them

Those are the fans that come in most of the fractal cases

[covert gorge]

pulse width modulation

[burnt dune]

so it seems the first actual case thermals that GN did were in 2017

SilverStone RL06 PRO best thermals 2017

you can see how far we have come in 6 years ish

now stock cases are getting about a 8C decrease in temp

so i understand the no front panel / no front wording

it means they took the whole front panel off to get better numbers

since thats the big intake area

but what about "3x fans"

or when they specify the rpm?

it seems aftermarket fans are almost always going to be the option to push ambient case thermals even colder tho and so unless its a shitty aftermarket fan theres always going to be aftermarket case fans that are going to be better than the stock fans.

but probably diminishing returns. buying a bunch of case fans probably costs more than the included case fans

he says that the meshify only beats the rl06 that year after he added $20 fans

steve says 26 db is basically barely audible and its a baseline for room ambient noise level

which makes sense if 25 is a whisper

apparently you dont want any plastic parts at all

does airflow matter if you are going double liquid?

[timber granite]

yes

you still need air to go through the radiator(s)

[burnt dune]

so best thermals still help liquid cooling since rads have fans

but air cooling would be more volatile

[timber granite]

volatile?

[burnt dune]

scales harder

so like bad airflow would impact air cooling more is what im saying

[timber granite]

what?

oh

yeah probably

[burnt dune]

volatile means like up and down more. instead of plateau more

[timber granite]

both need good airflow anyway though

[burnt dune]

ig thats why itx goes for liquid whenever they can

[timber granite]

depends on the case

[burnt dune]

since a bad airflow case matters less

still impacts it tho

it would also seem that there is no real reason to buy a 2017 case

and that actually is too old for me

they all run relatively hot by todays standards

[timber granite]

just pick a case you like that fits all your components and has lots of mesh

nothing more to it

[burnt dune]

so with liguid cooling airflow is less important and rad spaces are more important

[timber granite]

radiator space basically equates to airflow

[burnt dune]

like the fractal torrent has good airflow, but if the only rad space is the bottom rad space then thats bad

[timber granite]

triple 360mm rad support for example (o11D XL) has support for 10 120mm fans, which is a fuck ton of airflow

[burnt dune]

cause the best rad spaces are top and rear to remove heat as fast as possible from the system. but since rear isnt really practical. that really just leaves top and side mounted rads as the best options

cause you can set side to exhaust too if you put a rad there

is a rad set to intake really that bad tho?

next best option after that would be top front

[timber granite]

for custom watercooling, it doesnt matter near as much because all the air gets trapped in the res.

[timber granite]

no. it really doesnt matter

i think side mounts should be intake

[burnt dune]

they should normally

but if you are doing double aio, exhaust side rad might be better

if you can still fit intake fans on top of that for the front

[timber granite]

depends on the case, but i dont think so

[burnt dune]

regardless i need a case that has 2 rad spaces. 1 for the top is a must

and one for the side or front i will have to settle on

since no one does 240mm rear rads

[timber granite]

on something like the o11d evo, it should 100% be intake. for something like the 5000D, it should also be intake or the front intake fans would just go out the side instead of through the case

[timber granite]

the nv9 fits a 280 rear radiator. rear radiators are only viable if its like phankteks's nv series that can fit 240 and you custom watercool with the maximum amount of radiators

[burnt dune]

i dont think an exhaust side fans / rads would take all the air from the front intake and shoot it back out

[timber granite]

it would

thats how airflow works

[burnt dune]

but even if it did, the top rad exhaust and the rear exhaust would be fine for that section of the case

and bottom intake

[timber granite]

idk, for me, ill always have side as intake. in 99% of cases, its better

[burnt dune]

i could always test both and see which one is cooler

[timber granite]

its not going to make a cooling difference afaik

id do it to have positive pressure

[burnt dune]

back in these older videos they do noise different

they show which ones are actually just quieter at min and max operation

but they dont normalize it to 35 db

it also seems that if you choose silent cases, you will have bad airflow

and if you choose good airflow it will be noisey

[timber granite]

what?

[burnt dune]

all of the best thermal cases he reviews have the worst noise levels

[timber granite]

who

and what video is this

[burnt dune]

GN

RL06 seems to have thermals that still hold up tho in ways

to some of the shittier options from this year

94.9C combined

[timber granite]

combined?

[burnt dune]

you can summate them to see which ones have an overall better themals

since they split cpu an gpu

cause if a case has really good cpu thermals. it doesnt really matter if the gpu is on fire

[timber granite]

the only way that would happen is if the gpu was pressed against the glass side as a vertical mount or is up against the psu shroud

[burnt dune]

you can multiply the numbers. add the numbers or add and divide but in the end it doesnt really matter since you arent using those numbers to compute, you are just comparing them. so as long as the are all in relation to each other. it gives you a general idea of which cases have a higher cpu+gpu temp and which ones are lower

[burnt dune]

it happens more than you would think under normal configurations

ive seen tons of cases that have polarized temps

in fact almost all of them

hardly any had the cpu and gpu temp close together

as in both temping at 48C or 50C

usually it was completely polarized and usually the cpu temps were better

[timber granite]

hmmmm

bad fan config

[burnt dune]

im looking at the 2018 results now

their database has 160+ cases by this point

ig white cases werent always a thing either on top of shrouds

h500p seemed to outperform the rl06 this year

i think im starting to remember a friend watching a video on removing the dust filter from cases to boost your thermals as a diy hack

but that was years ago

the h500p has p bad gpu thermals

it would have a 100.4C combined

so not really better than the rl06 tbh

the sl600m is also not great. the cpu thermals are at like 62.6C
and the combined would be 107.6C

the h500p mesh got the award that year, but honestly. the rl06 probably should have gotten it instead. but this was their second year doing all these new benchmarking things for cases. so im thinking they just didnt want to put the rl06 in for 2 videos in a row. but that seems to be a reoccuring theme for cases

[timber granite]

youre wasting your time

[burnt dune]

it seems steve prefers shroudless too

which is funny cause when they first started coming out wayy before in 2014 ish. he seemed excited for them

[timber granite]

why

[burnt dune]

i think its just his preference

but i wasnt expecting that

i like shroudless cause i think the psu looks nice

his best visual case pick this year looks horribly ugly tho lmao so maybe hes not the best guy to give aesthetic advice lmao

im still waiting for that 2023 best case awards GN

[timber granite]

case looks are 100% a personal preference

[burnt dune]

okay im already back up to 2020

whoops i skipped 2019

p400a got best overall

[timber granite]

Still wasting your time

Straight up

[burnt dune]

not really

just goes to show there arent really that many cases worth looking at tbh

[timber granite]

...exactly. going through every case ever reviewed since like 2017 is a waste of time

[burnt dune]

just the ones they reviewed

and all of them are actually still sort of relevant right now afaik

not really silverstone tho

but like all the lian li cases

GN gave the 215 the best overall award in 2020

and i got clarification on what best overall means to them

it means best performance / price

which is dumb as fuck imo. never seen anyone use best overall for that

but whatever

i like GN but i actually dont prefer their presentation and their videos are way too long for what they are

he just sort of goes on and on and on about pointless details about how his company stumbled upon finding out about the case itself lmao

they are calling the 215 the "p400a digital killer" lol

its still great info but its like spaced out every 3 mins

hard to skip around.

[burnt pumice]

did they pick a case now

[burnt dune]

not yet

p500a digital seems to be p good

99.6C combined

215 got 99.4C combined

lancool ii got 100.6C combined

[long oriole]

Fella the torrent is a air cooling case, I said this yesterday

[burnt grove]

its not a big deal in a custom loop

[long oriole]

For this build

Custom loop is a shit idea

[burnt grove]

Not really just depends on her preference I guess

But she had already decided on an aio 4090 so might as well just get an AIO for the cpu instead

[long oriole]

Well custom loop is more pricey and needs more technical knowledge

For a first build ever

You want more experience

So it's a no go realm imo

[ruby bane]

Can’t wait for her to take a month to choose a cpu block if she goes custom

[covert gorge]

aio, not custom

[burnt epoch]

Then another 2 months for thermal paste

By the end of all this all the parts will be outdated

Most people take a week max to configure a pc

[burnt pumice]

The fact this could possibly happen is hilarious

[burnt epoch]

Fr lol I think the day nvidea quits caring about ai is the day dream builds this but let’s hope she does

I really want to see the final build

[ruby bane]

She wants to go aio gpu but custom loop cpu

[burnt pumice]

Dear God

We're getting GTA VI on pc before this PC will be built

[burnt epoch]

Fr lol

I still stand by the fact that she should just get a gaming laptop or itx pc with like 7700x and 4070

Air cooled

That much heat in a van is just not a good idea

• it will use almost all the vans power

[covert gorge]

this, this is dumb

[cloud totem]

😭

[burnt dune]

i do not lmao

the 7950x3d and the 4090 dont even need aios

but aios do get it colder.

i just dont know whats the point of getting it as cold as possible

besides longer lifespan
more room to oc
small performance increase like maybe 1-5 frames. but idc about that really and 3 frames is margin of error

[covert gorge]

not colder, they're thermally more efficient, it still moves the same amount of heat from the parts as an air cooler would

[worthy gust]

youd be surprised how much heat hardware like that will easily kick off into the surrounding area of even a good size bedroom

especially in a smaller more concentrated case

[burnt grove]

And the smaller the room the faster it’ll heat up too. If you’re playing cyberpunk for a few hours without the ac on that vans gonna cook

[covert gorge]

With an aio it will for sure due to being more thermally efficient over an air cooler

[timber granite]

Air cooling is more reliable though

[covert gorge]

yup, less stuff to go wrong as it's only the fan, but it heats up the air inside the case more before it gets exhausted out, which is why the aio is more efficient, same amount of heat expelled, just transfered to a different point before exhausted out

[burnt dune]

from what i saw the suprim liquid x was pushing around 60C

[burnt dune]

yep, so with aios, they are actually better heaters.

which means with aios, van cooling will be much more important cause otherwise it will just cycle back

[burnt epoch]

meaning you will end up spending a few thousand on van airconditioning

minimum

[burnt dune]

idk if im going to go the van ac route

but the van will need good airflow

[timber granite]

you will need better ac

hands down

[burnt epoch]

you will NEED it

[burnt dune]

its a want tbh

[timber granite]

when the outside is like 30C, you will need AC

[burnt epoch]

not sure you understand how much you will NEED it

[burnt epoch]

no not with a 4090 and 7950x3d

again another point why a gaming laptop would be better

[timber granite]

how the fuck do you think a house keeps a gaming room from boiling

[burnt dune]

a gaming laptop is not an option

[timber granite]

its called AC

[burnt epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/air-conditioning-gif-5776571

[burnt dune]

yeah an AC is nice, but idk if i will have room on the van

[burnt epoch]

i know you dont want it but thats what the smart thing to do would be

[burnt epoch]

you neeeeeeeeeeeed it with this pc

[burnt dune]

no its not

[timber granite]

when you build a van and cook without AC, we told you

[burnt dune]

ive been using a laptop for the last 10 years

[timber granite]

and?

[burnt dune]

ive watched videos and the AC is definitely not a need

im getting a laptop after this build

[burnt epoch]

buy a monitor

[burnt dune]

so i will have both

[burnt epoch]

and hook the laptop up to it

[timber granite]

what videos? did they have a 4090?

[burnt dune]

god no. ive been doing that for so long too

im not getting a gaming laptop tho, end of discussion

cargo ac for the van will be a maybe

[burnt epoch]

then would you consider a lower heat pc like 7700x and 4070 or something like that

[burnt dune]

the max air fans are really good

[burnt epoch]

its a must with this pc

[burnt dune]

no i wont.

[burnt epoch]

unless you want to sit and live in a 90+ degree room

[burnt dune]

7950x3d is already great on heat

[burnt epoch]

thats very humid

[timber granite]

hehe
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Gaming-PC-vs-Space-Heater-Efficiency-511/

[burnt epoch]

no its a 200 watt chip

[timber granite]

literal space heater

[burnt dune]

its going to be great during the winter and during the summer im not really worried because the vanlife fans that they get are really really good

so i can do 2 of them, and have one as intake and one as exhaust

[burnt dune]

this is absolutely perfect

[timber granite]

ive said this before. when the air outside the van is 30 Celsius, it will not be a good time. you need AC

[timber granite]

yeah, telling you that you need AC

[burnt epoch]

if you like that toms hardware is where hes getting it they have lots of other good info

[timber granite]

what?

[burnt dune]

ive used that website. i really hated it at first. but there are some good parts

[burnt epoch]

thats a toms hardware graph?

[burnt dune]

just hard for me to use

but ive learned it over time a bit

[timber granite]

no its from puget systems. the link i sent before

its an older pc, but using 3 gpus, it pulled like 900w, similar to the space heater they used to compare with

[burnt epoch]

Weird that looks a lot like a Tom’s hardware graph

[covert gorge]

more like you'd spend a little extra on venting rather than ac

[covert gorge]

air flow, you can have ac on all you want but without decent airflow to begin with it's wasted

you'd also find that you'd be creating condensation spots if you have an ac on but have poor airflow inside the vehicle

[covert gorge]

they're better heat exchangers due to being more thermally efficient, but it doesn't make them a better cooler, like i've stated, they'll shift the same amount of heat as an air cooler but they do it more efficiently, both air and aio/custo loops have a saturation point

[burnt dune]

i already know

ive seen the simulation

its just more heat outside of the cae

case

[burnt grove]

https://tenor.com/view/kachow-cars-lightning-mc-queen-pixar-disney-gif-5931942

[wooden eagle]

Not much you can do about this

[burnt grove]

yea you can

it's called a/c

[burnt dune]

yeah ac helps. but also just good airflow in the van is fine too

[burnt dune]

after all my research ive narrowed it down to basically just the ford transit or the ford E transit. a ford econline box truck is a close runner up. i decided not to go with the ford econoline box truck because im worried about parkability honestly. i actually dont care about the mpg anymore either

im not going a sprinter because mercedes is kind of ass.
and im not going with the promaster cause fiat is kind of ass.

people have reported many times very low maintenance costs after 5 years of owning a ford transit and its almost always due to the rear brakes since it is RWD.

[burnt grove]

Yes and no just depends on outside temps

[covert gorge]

decent airflow can mitigate most of it, ac would on add on after

[burnt grove]

But I mean if it’s a hot climate it’s gonna be a hot PC is what I’m saying

[burnt dune]

it wouldn't just be hot air blowing into the van unless it's like 90F+ out or something.

a lot of vanlifers don't necessarily go ac. it's still a want for me tho. I just gotta see what I will be doing tho

[covert gorge]

reasons for this is the repair/refil costs and protecting it from breaking down while in transport

which does involve covering the AC up before going anywhere with the van

[burnt grove]

Oh I was just referring to using the cars AC

If it’s a diesel you can let them idle for days and they’re usually fine

[covert gorge]

yean, no most of the time the cab is separate from the cargo area so any built in AC affects the cab

[burnt grove]

Not on a Promaster 2500

[covert gorge]

well she ain't going for that

[burnt dune]

i decided against the promaster, because fiat isnt reliable and because it's also the shortest cargovan along with having the highest WB. a shorter WB is usually better for handling. the transit has a 148 WB, but is longer than the promaster.

the promaster is wider so you can sleep sideways, but the ford transit elbows out and actually is about as wide as the promaster right where you would put a bed, the sprinter is the skinniest but the longest.

but the longer you get you run into parking issues. the ford transit isnt as boxy as the promaster which makes the promaster easier to build in, but thats about it. promaster is just kind of cheaply made,

personally, i like the way the promaster looks in the front, but not the back. i like the way the ford transit looks in the back but not the front. but i also dont care and i prefer the promaster in looks overall cause i feel like the front matters more, but the transit looks decent in the front too. i just like how cute the promaster looks.

the sprinter has the actual highest WB of 170 so its hard to turn. but that's fine cause the sprinter kind of just sucks. even if its the old t1n sprinters since you still have to go through MB afaik

also probably going to go 350 / 3500 so prolly a T350. because thats the lowest in that roof size and the lowest in the EXT lengths

but yeah i dont think i need the extra payload but its nice to have

[burnt grove]

The full sized promaster have Chrysler engines not fiat

It’s a 3.6 Pentastar engine

[burnt dune]

yeah but apparently a lot of people dont really like them because of the rest lol

also i spent $360 at the dealer yesterday and found out i gotta pay them $3600 to fix only one of my cars

[burnt grove]

Eh I’m a Stellantis mechanic they’re pretty decent as long as you keep up with maintenance and do it on time

[burnt dune]

yeah but from what ive seen, it seems the ford transit is better

[burnt grove]

I guess it’s just preference

[burnt dune]

in the first 5 years, it seems most people only replace rear brakes

and they overspent

[burnt grove]

Tbh if it wasn’t for the size the older Chevy express vans are the best cargo van made

[burnt dune]

i honestly prefer ford econoline to chevy express

but i was much bigger on foreign cars before all this

nissan nv just sucks

i have a hyundai and nissan

but im starting think foreign cars just have higher repair costs. so yeah maybe itll be better to just have ford

my biggest concern about vanlife isnt the finding a place to park

or the police

or the gas

its getting into a car accident that wasnt my fault

ive never been in a car accident so that's just very daunting

big thing about the promaster is that 2024 is becoming more competitive. they have a new super high roof which is 10 in taller so its 86 in tall vs the transit which is 81

[burnt epoch]

how is this thread still here the pc part list has been being worked on for 6 or 7 months now

[tacit magnet]

fein fein fein fein fein fein fein

https://open.spotify.com/track/42VsgItocQwOQC3XWZ8JNA?si=74f456ef86bb4373

[timber granite]

One word. Vans

[tacit magnet]

white vans

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19493945

[burnt epoch]

ah yes vans in a pc server

cough cough rule 10

[worthy gust]

womp womp

[silver monolith]

dude

WHY are there 7k messages here

[covert gorge]

because randoms like you entering and whining

[silver monolith]

damn bro get off that terminator mindset it isnt that deep

just asked a question

[timber granite]

It’s because the OP is trying to learn way too much about computers/components. We have been at this for FAR too long, and are tired of people popping in just to complain about how long it’s taking or ask why there are so many messages

[burnt epoch]

Fr lol

And the op won’t listen to anyone only chat gpt

[carmine sphinx]

tbh we’re the ones that told her to use it

Wrong @ mb lol

[carmine sphinx]

No?

[covert gorge]

yup, also what creeper just said

[timber granite]

the only reason im still here is because i have a small hope dream will come back to the actual pc instead of tangenting off to some random shit with a van

[covert gorge]

that bit she's been doing in a dm with me

[timber granite]

oh ok

why tho

[long oriole]

cus it annoyed everyone here

cus its not pc talk

and i think rauko knows alot about it

[timber granite]

i asked why she was doing pc help in a dm. that is the only thing that pertains to this server, and shes not doing it in this sever

[covert gorge]

to try and get a bit of an idea on what would be more ideal for what she wants to do in regards to van life

[timber granite]

getting a laptop instead

[covert gorge]

more about converting some of what they say

[covert gorge]

would be the easiest over all

[long oriole]

this would be so much better for a van

[timber granite]

or at least go more modest on the components so a small itx rig is viable

[burnt epoch]

thats what ive been saying since the day she siad she was considering a van

[balmy swan]

This is still going on?

[timber granite]

ish

[feral vessel]

jesus christ, this thread is still active?

[stiff sapphire]

Where is the challenge in that

[tacit magnet]

on god tho

dream getting special treatment

[burnt grove]

Who caressss

[dense shale]

No one

[burnt grove]

Exactly but people continue to ask

[foggy palm]

What’s the update on the build

[burnt epoch]

still no update just like the last 7 months

[timber granite]

Dream is obsessed with vans and only talks about them here. Meanwhile, the tech stuff, the part that should be here, is being discussed in a dm with rauko 💀

[burnt epoch]

sadly this is true

[covert gorge]

the vans is what's being discussed with me, the comp was left in here

[carmine sphinx]

Bruh Dream hasn’t said anything in like 2 weeks, why are we complaining

[tacit magnet]

fr tho

[timber granite]

You told me otherwise when this last came up

I may have misunderstood your message tho

[vital perch]

Here’s an idea just to stop the debate about cases just bolt the motherboard to a peice of plywood and stick that to the wall of whatever place your living in

And if you want it to be portable attach a handle

[covert gorge]

you definitely did

[covert gorge]

would be good in a home not in a van tbh

[cosmic flower]

wow I haven’t been here in ages

[tacit magnet]

lian li dan cases are cool imo

[timber granite]

Tried so hard

[burnt grove]

and got so far

[vital perch]

In the end it didn’t even matter

[manic minnow]

I'm Fractal Advocate

[timber granite]

I think of that every time someone says “tried so hard”

Too bad this build almost certainly isn’t happening. I thought for sure it would but nope

[burnt pumice]

Not a big surprise

What a waste of time this was

[tacit magnet]

fr

[burnt epoch]

bro fr

[burnt epoch]

i was always on the edge of i want this to happen but i didnt think so i went back and forth she was definitly trolling

[tacit magnet]

microsoft edge?

[burnt epoch]

..i meant like i went in between thinking she was trolling vs she was just taking awhile

[tacit magnet]

microsoft edge

[timber granite]

💀

[tacit magnet]

microsoft edge

[timber granite]

dude

[tacit magnet]

microsoft

edge

[burnt epoch]

Bro

[covert gorge]

<@&750150305383186585> as the op hasn't been online for like a month, mind closing the thread?

[burnt dune]

I'm all moved out of my apartment now. but I've been having car troubles so I've been learning a lot about cars.

[tacit magnet]

finally

[snow niche]

@timber granite I feel so bad for u

All the hours wasted

All the research and messages typed

Broski how many hours or productivity in life did u lose

Do u not have school or work lmao

[manic minnow]

Stop keeping this thread alive

Stop msgs

[timber granite]

I have school, but I also had free time

[hot wren]

I have school too but not that much free time

[tacit magnet]

nah

[burnt dune]

We all spent time in here. We all spent time. It really did help. I'm not dead. But yeah I needed that break.

But I want to announce my car is all fixed up now.

I didn't know anything about cars before but now I know a lot more.

I replaced the alternator for $97
Battery for $260 cause I went to the dealer out of desperation. Huge mistake.
I spent about $50 on belts.

Did all new oil. Went with mobil1 instead of Amazon basics.

New oil filter also mobil1.

And a new oil pan. I let my oil literally eat a whole through my old oil pan.

But what's great is now ik how to do it on my own. Im gonna learn brakes next but I can drive again.

[timber granite]

your head is going to explode from trying to learn everything about everything

[burnt grove]

urm that's not really how oil works

Over time oil will get more acidic as it breaks down but never enough to eat a hole through a steel or aluminum oil pan. There had to have been something else in the pan if that was the case

[timber granite]

No shot oil would be able to eat through metal or engines would literally destroy themselves systematically

Also why the fuck would you buy Amazon basics oil

[covert gorge]

only thing i can think of is rust slowly eating away at it

either that or a seal going

for oil to leak out

though worse case is rust, second worse case is hitting something to pierce and take a chunk out of the oil pan

[burnt grove]

that would be from the outside nontheless

[covert gorge]

true but those would be the only things to cause a leak

[burnt dune]

I'm pretty sure. my oil was so bad it eventually influenced the oil pan to rust more easily. or just outright caused the rust.

my oil was literally black clay.

it was like a semi solid.

[burnt grove]

Still wouldn’t result in rust. Their would have to have been some additive in the oil to make it do that

I’ve seen oil that looks like jello cake in the pan and the motor was still running lol. It was a Toyota tho

[foggy palm]

coolent in the oil could cause rust

[burnt epoch]

and just like that a wild micheal appears

[carmine sphinx]

BREADOSAUR I CHOOSE YOU

[burnt grove]

If she has enough coolant in the oil to rust through the pan then the engine would have blown up

Coolants does not compress into a gas

[burnt dune]

well it's better now. I didn't change my oil basically ever in the 5 years or whatever that I owned it.

I mean after I get a pc. some of us can be friends and just play games too yknow. if yall are actually nice to me for once lmao

I'm probably going to have time to look at cases again in the next couple days. I just need to set my laptop up somewhere.

[burnt epoch]

What form factor were you thinking? (Sry I forgot lol)

And you’re still planning on 2 aios?

[timber granite]

All of them

[burnt epoch]

Oh

[tacit magnet]

coolio

[covert gorge]

@burnt dune any updates?

[burnt dune]

oh hey thanks for checking in on me. I am still saving up money for the ford transit and learning about cars etc. last week i learned about brakes. I am about to do my 2nd car and try to sell both of my vehicles after that which will add to the savings. I have been moved out for sometime now, and it's really helped.

I still think the PC will cost me about $3k, but I've been thinking maybe I shouldnt buy a brand new Ford Transit since I could get a like-new used one for $10k instead of $50k

and then i have more in my checking and savings, but not $50k

I recently took the team lead test at my job, so if i get a raise that would help.

and if i keep a good relationship with the guy who is teaching me, then he could maybe help me fix up the used ford transit. he wants to teach me about tires since I also have been driving on a spare tire on the highway for 1 or 2 years. and then it also has a bad headlight.

but both cars are officially driveable again. I plan on going to sandusky for the solar eclipse. on that day i plan on taking new medication.

[covert gorge]

improvements all around which is good

knowing maintenance of a vehicle is a major thing tbh

[burnt dune]

honestly kind of waiting for my investments to do something within the next 3-4 months because although the flat amount of money i have in the bank is a lot--over $10k, It would be so nice to sell and reinvest and sell the reinvest so i can ride on that instead. because although $10k for a ford transit is nice. I really want the electric ford transit and i doubt i will find that used/like-new used.

[covert gorge]

i would doubt it also, and that's going to be a fair bit more weighty a vehicle tbh

[burnt dune]

also it seems that ford is releasing a new E-transit in 2026 so im kind of anticipating higher range. its really the range that im hesitant on

[covert gorge]

thing is, a higher range just means more efficient parts, but compared to a gas vehicle it's stil heavier

[burnt dune]

i could buy a gasoline transit, and then sell it post 2026. since ill be on the road i could just take my ford transit to where ever is selling the newer EV ones.

yeah the battery is bigger which is much more heavy

[covert gorge]

you will need to keep any eye on both brake and tyre wear on EV's more so due to it's weight

[burnt dune]

oh i also passed this test

[burnt dune]

yeah that's true

apparently the current charging speed allows about 60 miles of range in about $15 at a public charge station. the current has about 160 mi of range which isnt the worse thing on earth and i could make due with that but its still low

i guess im just worried about doctor appointments in other cities and anime conventions that are far away. i could do the driving the night before. and sleep on site at the locations for days like this

im in toledo for example, and ive had a doctors appointment in columbus before. if i had to drive there, i should be able to make it there without stopping to charge but i would have to charge on the way back.

similarly a real road trip to maryland or new york would be more like 470 mi. meaning I would need to stop to recharge 3 times taking at least 45-60 mins increasing drive time from 7h to 8h. which isnt that bad. because its not my business. i wont doing roadtrips like this all the time.

[burnt dune]

actually I was able to find some used E-Transits but it's still about $35k which I barely have enough for

[tacit magnet]

this place still exists?

cool

[covert gorge]

go gasoline/diesel for the truck, it would last you longer on fuel between trips than it would as an ev

[snow niche]

Yeah teach me

[burnt dune]

i actually already talked about it in this thread

my strategy is super simple

[snow niche]

I haven’t done it before

I want to put 1000 cad directly

Then add 100 every 2 weeks or something idk

[burnt dune]

buying in every 2 weeks or so isn't a bad strategy because it's been shown with multiple assets including crypto that if you just buy consistently instead of timing the top it shows growth cause all markets basically grow and inflation helps.

so yeah that's a safe way of investing

than trying to time the top or bottom