Thoughts / Changes?

[eternal glen]

(the case is not final still looking)

[boreal prawn]

For the price of that 4060 ti you could get a 4070

Unless thats not in us dollars

[eternal glen]

nah that’s $AUD

[boreal prawn]

That makes more sense. I thought that was a crazy price for thst card

[eternal glen]

yeah only about $440 usd haha

[boreal prawn]

If you want to save a few dollars, you could easily go with a 750w power supply

Crucial p5 plus ssd will be a touch cheaper as well

Other than that, pretty solid in my opinion

[eternal glen]

alright cool thanks! 🙂

[lavish estuary]

This isn’t great, whats your usecase?

How about this? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/tRmcHG

Just get some white cable extensions

Universal

And keep your current case

[clever plover]

@eternal glen this is way better, though you can change the psu for the white version at the same wattage, though you could go for a full amd build

[lavish estuary]

Would cable extensions not be cheaper?

[clever plover]

not really, considering australian dollar and market

it also adds an extra point of failure

10-20 aud more for it in white vs 50-100 aud more for extensions

[ivory lily]

Terrible

What are you doing with the pc?

[ivory lily]

How about this: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/VLXrvj

[clever plover]

might as well get the corsair rm850 in white at that point

[ivory lily]

Costs more plus i think the gf1 is better

[clever plover]

not really, considering with the corsair you could swap out the psu without touching the cables, with the thermaltake you would need to redo your cable management anytime the psu would need upgrading

[ivory lily]

What?

[clever plover]

optionally for the corsair you can get their premium individually sleeved cables as well instead of going for extensions

[clever plover]

corsair keep their pinouts the same per gen type, most other brands have different pinout s so you can't use the same cable on different model wattages of the same psu

[ivory lily]

You dont really have to change the psu unless ur getting a 4090, the gf1 can easily handle an xtx

[clever plover]

it's also a white build

and for $10 aud more, you can get the rm850 in white

[eternal glen]

why is it terrible?

[eternal glen]

what's wrong with it?

curious so I know what i've done wrong

[ivory lily]

What are you doing with the pc?

[eternal glen]

medium level gaming

it's better then what i have?

[ivory lily]

Ok so why not get am5?

A much better platform

Plus 7800xt exists

Also just cuz something is better than what you have doesn't mean its worth it

[eternal glen]

I'm not up to date with all the pc parts my current is a couple years old that was the last time i looked at parts

[eternal glen]

what would be similar on an nvidia card or nothing?

[onyx mountain]

boy have i got a deal for you https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/806155

grab that, swap PSU with your current one, get new decent b550 board, sell your old build for $600 on marketplace, profit

feel free to grab 5800x3d if you really want high fps in CPU heavy titles, but i’d personally grab a 1440p monitor instead

[ivory lily]

4070 but not worth it

[ivory lily]

Wtf is this

[onyx mountain]

techfast ozbargain special

[ivory lily]

Why would he get a shit value prebuilt

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Q2rkJy

[onyx mountain]

it’s not?

[ivory lily]

When he can build this?

[ivory lily]

Yes it is

[onyx mountain]

it’s 888 AUD

how is that shit value

that’s literally less than half price

as i said, swap out psu with the RM he currently has, buy new motherboard. entire build will cost like $1.1k, then he’ll have 2 separate complete PCs

[eternal glen]

would i not want the i5-13600K 14-Core over the Ryzen 5 7600 6-Core?

[onyx mountain]

he can sell one off. 6600 + 11400f is still $600-700 on marketplace

[ivory lily]

Why do you need those cores for fam

Cores aren't everything to a cpu

[onyx mountain]

7600 still performs better in games

[eternal glen]

i don't i'm not saying more cores = better i'm just asking

[ivory lily]

No.

[ivory lily]

Similar

Not really better

But it gets less hot

And is cheaper

[onyx mountain]

slightly better

[ivory lily]

And is on a much better platform

[ivory lily]

No

7600x is slightly better

7600 would perform the same

[onyx mountain]

they’re the same chip

[ivory lily]

They are not

[onyx mountain]

it’s like 1-2% difference

[ivory lily]

Like 3 to 4

But yes

[onyx mountain]

not if you have pbo and other mobo OC features on

remember that reviews use AMD stock settings

[eternal glen]

is the ram you chose rather then the ram i picker better or just cheaper?

[ivory lily]

Better and cheaper so

[eternal glen]

and I do want nvidia I have an AMD card at the moment and have had nvidia in the past I've always liked it better. could you throw a build together quickly with an nvidia card or not?

[eternal glen]

cool

[ivory lily]

3 reasons why you want nvidia

Then i'll put one in.

[eternal glen]

Drivers and the software have always been smoother for me never any hiccups, from what i've read and seen online is that nvidia cards are more "reliable" may be a bit more expensive but they have "more features" and a "better experience / peformance".

I don't know too much as I said I've only ever built 2 pc's.

but again I'm no expert just a preference.

[onyx mountain]

Switch out the 7800xt with a 4070 then

It’s gonna perform worse, fyi

An entire tier worse

[ivory lily]

Also has less vram lmao

[ivory lily]

Amd drivers are fine

[ivory lily]

Also what are those better features?

Where is the better performance?

You're literally paying more for less

[eternal glen]

I'm just saying what I've read and watched online. but that's good to know thank you! also why the fan over the aio?

just asking a bunch of question to learn as I haven't done this in awhile!

[ivory lily]

Unnecessary

[eternal glen]

and i have no idea about aio vs cpu fan for cooling because i've never used aio

[onyx mountain]

I mean, LTT had issues

So i wouldnt say it’s as flawless as nvidia’s

[ivory lily]

One person had issues no way!!

[onyx mountain]

But for the perf difference i’d take it

[ivory lily]

But mean its bad

[onyx mountain]

3, actually

[ivory lily]

Also I've heard people having problem with nvidia drivers

Does that mean they are bad?

[onyx mountain]

The experience in general has been worse on AMD

[ivory lily]

And now they are completely fine

[onyx mountain]

Only slightly, and nvidia drivers definitely arent worth the extra they’re charging

But still doesnt detract from the fact that AMD has slightly worse drivers

[ivory lily]

Slightly worse doesn't mean they are bad

[eternal glen]

what pcs do you guys have out of curiosity? they are probs way out of my price range but just yeah just curious

[ivory lily]

Also idc if 3 people had issues with them

It doesn't change anything

[onyx mountain]

I did not say they are bad. I said they are slightly worse

[ivory lily]

Really

[onyx mountain]

I have many

I like to buy parts off of marketplace, build PCs, use em for like a month and then sell em

[eternal glen]

oh cool haha

[onyx mountain]

What’s your budget for the upgrade?

I’ll see what parts i can find off of ozbargain

[eternal glen]

2k + i can sell my current for whatever this is worth.

[onyx mountain]

Hmmm

Honestly if i were you i’d grab a 4080 and a 1440p 144hz

Or a 4080 and a $600 dell 1st party refurb DWF with 3 year onsite - is what i would say if the DWF didnt sell out just a moment ago

[eternal glen]

isn't a 4080 like 2k?

[onyx mountain]

1799

[eternal glen]

so you're saying just keep what I have an upgrade the gpu?

[onyx mountain]

So you’d have to stretch your budget a little, but worth it for DWF goodness. But doesnt matter, deal gone

[onyx mountain]

Yeah

And monitor

11400f is still good enough for the heaviest AAA games at 60fps

And esports titles at 240hz+

[onyx mountain]

You’d be better off buying a monitor and a GPU for now. Look for a CPU upgrade in 2-3 years

[eternal glen]

my 11400f is running at 100% a lot of the time. I didn't mention I do edit some videos and stuff on sony vegas and its struggles a bit on rendering.

and I was told on another discord my current motherboard is shit

They could be wrong tho only 1 dude said it

[onyx mountain]

Ah

It’s not motherboard

Your mobo’s fine. It’s probably CPU

[ivory lily]

11400f on a 4080 are you fucking joking?

[onyx mountain]

You dont have quicksync either

[onyx mountain]

No

[ivory lily]

Then ur just stupid.

[onyx mountain]

Nope

[ivory lily]

Clearly

[onyx mountain]

There isnt a law on what should pair with what

[ivory lily]

A 3600 hard bottlenecks a 6800xt

Which is like better than a 11400f

[onyx mountain]

If you’re playing at 1440p ultra or 4k high, an 11400f would not limit a 4080

Not in modern titles anyways

[ivory lily]

Even in 1440p its still a fucking trash pair

Will most likely cause stuttering

[onyx mountain]

? No lmao

[ivory lily]

Yes*

[onyx mountain]

Why would it cause stuttering

[ivory lily]

Why wouldn't it.

Its a trash pair

[onyx mountain]

You havent built enough PCs

[ivory lily]

I've done enough

[onyx mountain]

Try actually testing them out yourself

Cause i have

[ivory lily]

And you paired a 11400f on a 4080?

[onyx mountain]

3080 with 2600x, so not exactly the same but yeah. No stutters on high res.

[ivory lily]

Thats completely different

[onyx mountain]

If you’re pushing like 100+fps on 1080p low on cyberpunk, then yeah it’ll stutter

[ivory lily]

Also he said hes doing light gaming

So idk why ur recommending a 4080

When he can get into a much better platform

And with a gpu thats more than enough

[onyx mountain]

I dont see a CPU cooler mentioned so i grabbed one just in case https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/WKnfyg

Reuse case, storage, and psu

Make sure to get 13600k for quicksync. For an extra $30 an iGPU is worth it.

Although it wouldnt matter too much since you can also use nvenc to render with nvidia

[ivory lily]

Why lga1700 lmfao

[onyx mountain]

My advice, get the GPU first for now. Use it with your current build, edit and render using nvenc

[ivory lily]

When 7600 gets the same performance

[onyx mountain]

Not in video editing and render

13600k decimates with its E cores

[ivory lily]

Are you like just assuming a person's needs?

When did he say he wants to do editing

He just said he wanna do medium gaming

[onyx mountain]

#1163768631537184819 message

My mans forgot to read the entire chat

[ivory lily]

What type of editing

And why didn't you say that when i asked you what ur doing with the pc

[ivory lily]

I doubt that cooler is gonna be enough

13600k is power hungry

[onyx mountain]

Also, fyi, render will always 100% the CPU. A render will take as much resources as it can to complete as fast as it can, and the main resource is CPU. Even with a 64 core threadripper, you’ll see 100% cpu usage on video renders.

[onyx mountain]

Was concerned that case wouldnt fit an AIO but i just looked it up, TD500 is massive

Updated cooler: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/W8xz6D

[ivory lily]

Wtf is that aio

[onyx mountain]

Evga CLC280. Performs well, but a bit on the noisier side

[ivory lily]

Is it even better than a ps120

[onyx mountain]

Afaik is a decent aio stock, and is one of the best performers if you change out the fans with better ones

Should be better than a 120 yes

[ivory lily]

Highly doubt it lmao

Ps120 performs like a lt520

[onyx mountain]

Twas a top performer years ago

Still pretty dece for its price right now