[FIXED, Disabled hw accelerated GPU scheduling] Gpu already dying or just windows 11 being funny? | Linus Tech Tips | Page 1

dawn zinc Sep 19, 2023, 5:01 PM

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Specs:
i5-12400F
32gb (4x8gb) G.Skill Ripjaws V at 3200mhz (2 sticks are 7 years old, 2 of them are brand new)
Asus Dual RTX 4070
Asus PRIME B660-PLUS D4 ATX
Asus ROG Strix 750W PSU
Windows 11 Home

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i have already tried reinstalling gpu drivers and that didnt stop the random weird glitches

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gpu is fine under stresstest, gaming etc, temps, voltages, powers all of that is normal

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its just the random weird stuff that looks like the same that happens with dying graphics cards that only happen for split second makes me worried, the card is under warranty, its 1 month old

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the glitching (flashing white) seen in 2nd video still happens if i turn on animated window minimizing and enlarging so that doesnt explain it

fluid violet Sep 19, 2023, 5:16 PM

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Bro watching Duutsoneita 💀

dawn zinc Sep 19, 2023, 5:16 PM

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i watched jackass first and now the finnish clowns

fluid violet Sep 19, 2023, 5:16 PM

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All jokes aside, did you do a DDU to nuke all off your display drivers?

dawn zinc Sep 19, 2023, 5:17 PM

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clean install with geforce experience

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it also nukes old drivers

fluid violet Sep 19, 2023, 5:17 PM

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dawn zinc i watched jackass first and now the finnish clowns

The Finnish clowns is what I call my classmates

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Uhh... Sorry man but it doesn't do it as reliably as DDU

dawn zinc Sep 19, 2023, 5:17 PM

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this same stuff has happened in the 2 previous driver versions too

fluid violet Sep 19, 2023, 5:18 PM

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Which would imply that the issue is definitely somewhere so deep that a basic reinstall via GeForce Experience wouldn't help

dawn zinc Sep 19, 2023, 5:18 PM

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the same stuff thats seen in the 2nd video doesnt happen to you?

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assuming you have win 11

fluid violet Sep 19, 2023, 5:19 PM

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Yeah I have Win 11, don't have that

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Also RX 7900 XTX so can't really compare driver revisions

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I think that DDU from Guru3d is as good as place as any to start

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Do that, then fresh download and install of driverz

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driverz

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gonna keep that typo in place

dawn zinc Sep 19, 2023, 5:22 PM

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ez

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aight ill try that tomorrow but rn im too tired and dont trust myself with messing with ddu

fluid violet Sep 19, 2023, 5:23 PM

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Fair, let me know

dawn zinc Sep 19, 2023, 5:24 PM

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will do

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lmao i changed scaling setting from monitor to gpu and now it only happens like 10% of the time

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and only happens when minimizing window

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linuth

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@fluid violet KEKWSMILE

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ill still do ddu but this kinda silly

fluid violet Sep 19, 2023, 5:39 PM

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Okay one more variable here

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I don't use Opera

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I use Firefox

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So I don't know if that's just an Opera thing or a global issue

dawn zinc Sep 19, 2023, 5:40 PM

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the weird part is, that i just reinstalled gpu drivers thru nvidia, and during the reinstallation on the upper corner there was a "2nd screen"

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the same size and place as what the white stuff doesnt cover

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like right there

fluid violet Sep 19, 2023, 5:41 PM

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I don't know, I really just can't rule out driver issue

dawn zinc Sep 19, 2023, 5:41 PM

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yeah you are most likely right

fluid violet Sep 19, 2023, 5:42 PM

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I doubt it's Windows, but you can do the basic command prompt as admin and sfc /scannow

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I just don't think it's worth whacking our brains around this further before we've ruled out drivers completely

dawn zinc Sep 19, 2023, 5:42 PM

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peepoThumb

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:16 PM

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@fluid violet i ran ddu, and after restarting and while downloading nvidia driver i noticed the graphical glitches were still there (glitches happened when driver wasnt even installed)

I also tried different browsers and same thing happens still

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Ddu ran at default settings, selected nvidia and gpu and pressed clean and restart (the top option)

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and ofc ran ddu in safe mode

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I think im gonna do it again and install older driver instead, since the glitching didnt seem so bad back then but i wanna hear your opinion before i go further

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the glitching also happened on other apps not just browser

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:23 PM

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fluid violet I doubt it's Windows, but you can do the basic command prompt as admin and **sfc...

Did you try this?

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:24 PM

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yes no errors

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:24 PM

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Also yes, you can try and see what happens if you go down to older drivers.

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:24 PM

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yeah

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:24 PM

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But if the issue stays the same it means we're looking at a potential hardware issue.

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:25 PM

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if that doesnt help im gonna shove my 4070 on my older windows 10 machine and see if it suddenly starts glitching out of nowhere

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then i know for sure its the gpu

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and im gonna yeet it back to the store i bought it from

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:25 PM

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Yeah that's a good way to test it

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:27 PM

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not sure can my 450w kolink psu handle it but as long as i dont run stresstest should be fine

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:27 PM

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dawn zinc not sure can my 450w kolink psu handle it but as long as i dont run stresstest s...

Kolink 💀

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:27 PM

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klink kloink

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:27 PM

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followed by a boom

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:27 PM

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explosion

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:27 PM

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Yeah

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Every Kolink unit I've dealt with has blown up

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:28 PM

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lol

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:35 PM

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I'm surprised the Kolink unit is functioning even before the graphics card is in there

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I think it's such a huge risk that you ought to use the PSU from your own system just in case

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Or just replace the 4070 with some other card to verify it was in fact caused by the graphics card

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Not that I'm expecting you to just have a replacement graphics card lying around mind you

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:43 PM

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ye i got my trusty old 1060 3gb that runs hotter than the sun

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just installed august 8th drivers same issue

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do i need to do some special shenanigans before replacing the 4070 with my old 1060?

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:44 PM

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dawn zinc ye i got my trusty old 1060 3gb that runs hotter than the sun

That's just what the hardware manufacturers do, they send all the hot units to nordic countries lol

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:44 PM

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dawn zinc do i need to do some special shenanigans before replacing the 4070 with my old 1...

You would need to pull the 4070 out of the system obvs.

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:44 PM

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:D

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:44 PM

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Other than that nah, should be just plug and play

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Uses the same drivers and shit

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:44 PM

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doesnt matter if i just installed drivers for 4070?

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:45 PM

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Not really no

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:45 PM

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and dont have geforce experience installed atm

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:45 PM

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It should be fine, they use the same drivers

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like literally

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:45 PM

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aight see you in a sec when i swap cards

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:45 PM

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right

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:48 PM

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i shut down the pc and turned off psu, removed gpu power cable and a red light went on in the gpu for 20 seconds

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on the pcb next to the powerplug

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normal or did that mean hey you fucked something up heres a red led

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:49 PM

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It means that the power had not completely drained from your system.

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:49 PM

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oh

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:49 PM

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Usually the graphics card gives a red led when it doesn't have the power connector plugged in.

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:50 PM

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safe to continue ? or do i need to turn the psu back on and wait

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:50 PM

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But that's only when the system has power running through it.

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:50 PM

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dawn zinc safe to continue ? or do i need to turn the psu back on and wait

Any damage that could've done has already been done actually.

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So you might as well keep going,.

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:/

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:50 PM

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lol

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pc booted with 1060 installed

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:54 PM

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time to see if the problem is still there

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:54 PM

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yes it is

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lmao

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instantly

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:55 PM

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Yup, not the graphics card then

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:55 PM

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words cannot describe my hatred towards windows 11

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i literally NEVER had any issues with windows 10 during the 5 years i used win 10

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oh well

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:56 PM

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Yeah I still think it's some sort of a driver issue :/

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I don't want to make you reinstall Win11 again

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especially after that hate speech lol

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:56 PM

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im not reinstalling 11

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im installing 10

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fuck 11

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serieously

tiny ember Sep 23, 2023, 6:57 PM

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FRICK windows 11

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:57 PM

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in 1 month i had random bsod's and now graphical shenanigans i absolutely hate it

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new pc, use win 11 for month and lose sanity

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xD alright 4070 going back in

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:58 PM

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It would honestly be a super fun way to end this journey

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conclusion: Install Windows 10

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:58 PM

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but, i am happy that this is not a hardware issue, not that it would have mattered because the gpu still has 3 years warranty left

tiny ember Sep 23, 2023, 6:58 PM

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See what you could do is become an absolute chad and swap to linux

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:58 PM

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linuth

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 6:59 PM

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dawn zinc <:linuth:654379955043696680>

Think about it bro, Linux would be close to home

tiny ember Sep 23, 2023, 6:59 PM

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Is the truth and only the truth, "it just works"

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~~granted the term "it just works" for linux also relies on the user not being completely braindead~~

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 6:59 PM

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btw my psu makes a (kinda satisfying) metallic ding noise when pc shuts down

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i assume thats the relay or whatever

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 7:00 PM

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Well here's another thing to consider...

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If your system is acting super weird and is inconsistently broken

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It's most likely the power supply

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c:

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I can't believe I'm saying this but... You could take that timebomb out of the other system and test it in yours xD

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 7:01 PM

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Its a asus rog strix 750w gold, 1 month old

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it doesnt have any issues at even full load

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its not the kolink

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relax

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 7:02 PM

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Thank god

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But yeah, I guess there's not much else to this

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Gonna install Win10 then?

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 7:03 PM

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If i get irritated enough by the glitches or new issues arrive im insta downgrading to win 10

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atm, the issues only happen randomly in web browsers, file explorer but never in games

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 7:04 PM

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At least the graphics card isn't dying.

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 7:04 PM

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Sometimes in other apps but never under full load surprisingly

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yep

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but hey thanks for help! i really appreciate it.

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people like you are a real gift

fluid violet Sep 23, 2023, 7:05 PM

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Aw shucks

dawn zinc Sep 23, 2023, 7:06 PM

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FrenPeek

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[SOLVED, WIN 11 JUST SUCKS] Gpu already dying or just windows 11 being funny?

dawn zinc Sep 26, 2023, 9:51 PM

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@fluid violet i fixed it, you never guess what was the issue, it was this. it was this all along. disabled it and i havent had any issues in the past 24 hours lmao

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like holy fuck

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sorry for the ping but this was so stupid i had to let you know

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[FIXED, Disabled hw accelerated GPU scheduling] Gpu already dying or just windows 11 being funny?

fluid violet Sep 27, 2023, 11:45 AM

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dawn zinc <@284421069429932032> i fixed it, you never guess what was the issue, it was thi...

Interesting, I don't actually have that in my settings

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I wonder if that's graphics card specific, I currently have an RX 7900 XTX but I used to have an RTX2070

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At least based on what I read online it should be supported by GTX1000 series and later as well as RX5600 and later

dawn zinc Sep 27, 2023, 11:58 AM

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yeah its an nvidia thing

fluid violet Sep 27, 2023, 2:11 PM

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Turns out it's named a bit different depending on the system and the OS version :P

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It's not an Nvidia exclusive function at all

dawn zinc Sep 27, 2023, 2:12 PM

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it doesnt even seem to improve perfomance in any way

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kinda useless feature

fluid violet Sep 27, 2023, 2:14 PM

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Well it supposedly improves stuff like editing and systems that don't have a great CPU benefit from it, but even their recommendation is to only use it if it doesn't cause any issues with the system lol

dawn zinc Sep 27, 2023, 2:33 PM

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and yet it was enabled by default

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as stupid as the fast boot being enabled by default

fluid violet Sep 27, 2023, 2:54 PM

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I don't know about that, apparently for me it's enabled at all times because of Auto HDR

#[FIXED, Disabled hw accelerated GPU scheduling] Gpu already dying or just windows 11 being funny?