building my 1st pc

[topaz solstice]

for example phanteks has a couple cases that come with a really good psu

[crisp rune]

best option

pink = best color

[solar gulch]

that word hurts me but aight

[topaz solstice]

to limited in choice for a decent one at that colour, hence why a decent white one and spray it the shade of pink you want

[arctic lotus]

thats fine too

[topaz solstice]

it's the best option for having a pink case

[arctic lotus]

so the internal 3.5 bays are just for the 3.5 ssds only?

[solar gulch]

ya no harm in painting it

[topaz solstice]

and bonus points in actually having a decent case in the end

[crisp rune]

i feel like the best bet would to be to find some case options you like the look of then ask us how they are or si this not a good idea (not tryna be a dick just generally might be a good idea)

[topaz solstice]

3.5" hdd's, ssd adapters, floppy drives

[arctic lotus]

do 3.5 bays support 2.5 ssds too?

[topaz solstice]

remember there is no 3.5" ssd in consumer space

[solar gulch]

me personally im just chilling with the deepcool matrexx add rgb 50 (tempered glass atx)

[topaz solstice]

quite obvious on that one

[solar gulch]

whatre we on now?

[solar gulch]

case

[arctic lotus]

so im guessing no

[solar gulch]

damn

[topaz solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-annoyed-stöhn-oh-no-oh-nein-gif-24943313

[arctic lotus]

im guessing yes now lmao

[topaz solstice]

finally a brain cell was used

[arctic lotus]

i still dont know tbh

[solar gulch]

wait what are your planned specs

[topaz solstice]

it's a fucking "YES"

[arctic lotus]

thanks lol

how does the 2.5 fit in there tho

[solar gulch]

about that

dont we only have cpu and gou?

gpu

[solar gulch]

thats what I thought when i joined the thread 😭

[solar gulch]

ok cool

still its been 2 months and we only have 2 parts

2 months?

yes

what the hell

2 months i was building my pc 😭

but anyway

[arctic lotus]

ig htpc can be sff

[solar gulch]

wtf is a htpc

funny cuz i dont know half the stuff y'all talking about

home theater?

[solar gulch]

LOL

[solar gulch]

i dont know what an htpc is

[arctic lotus]

does the external volume have an use at all

[solar gulch]

it is a home theater case

cool

i searched it up and it says home theater pc 💀

[crisp rune]

what form factor did we decide on in the end?

[solar gulch]

thats cuz it is

[arctic lotus]

it's just the space it takes up

[solar gulch]

no idea

atx maybe?

itx?

[arctic lotus]

choosing the case first

[solar gulch]

i have an atx 😄

i have a matx

[crisp rune]

i have a micro atx i think

[solar gulch]

you should plan your motherboard so you can see the size of it and see if your case goes well with it

my mobo is missing its io shield lol

[solar gulch]

💀 so its just open? 😭

[solar gulch]

^^

[solar gulch]

yeah?

[arctic lotus]

i have a 4090 so im gonna need to see if there are itx cases that can fit that

i want to go itx

[solar gulch]

hes saying you should plan mobo first

[arctic lotus]

ive already planned my mobo

[solar gulch]

crazy

[crisp rune]

which one?

[arctic lotus]

idk yet, cause idk if i can go itx

[solar gulch]

Jus get a rog strix helios and paint it pink 😭

[crisp rune]

theres a few itx cases that fit a 4090

[arctic lotus]

this could be sff too ig

[solar gulch]

its pretty rare

[crisp rune]

thats why i said a few lmao

[solar gulch]

bro 💀

wait

what parts DO we have

[crisp rune]

i thought that was a case for a second 💀

[solar gulch]

cpu mobo gpu?

[solar gulch]

LOL

[crisp rune]

i think just a 4090

[solar gulch]

7950x3d

wait

she updated the list

[solar gulch]

finally

[crisp rune]

oh really??? even better

[arctic lotus]

it's been like that

[solar gulch]

we only saw gpu and cpu 😭

[solar gulch]

no

stfu

[solar gulch]

wh

what

[solar gulch]

cough

[steel sapphire]

we dont need 2 assholes in this thread man

[solar gulch]

whos the other asshole

[solar gulch]

wild

[arctic lotus]

okay so yeah

[steel sapphire]

dream

[solar gulch]

idfk i cant remember

[arctic lotus]

looks like i can do this itx tower

[solar gulch]

i forgot about drives and ram

[solar gulch]

oh yeah

[solar gulch]

bro said the op is an asshole

[solar gulch]

it is kinda true tbh

[steel sapphire]

im not wrong

[solar gulch]

ive been blocked 4 times

[crisp rune]

hello again yaboikirbo

[topaz solstice]

translates into a case that needs to handle a 360mm rad as well as your gpu, which means specific matx and atx cases

[steel sapphire]

hello enthos

[topaz solstice]

nope

[crisp rune]

hru

[arctic lotus]

why a 360 rad

[solar gulch]

so u basically want it like this

[arctic lotus]

cause you see a 4090

[steel sapphire]

alr just doing some dishes and thought id check in

[crisp rune]

whats a 360

[steel sapphire]

u?

[crisp rune]

vibing in this thread

[steel sapphire]

real

[crisp rune]

what case is this???

that looks sick

[solar gulch]

360mm radiator

[topaz solstice]

because ones that handle a 360mm rad has the capacity to have the rad near the gpu and still have clearance for the fans as well

[crisp rune]

ohhhh

[solar gulch]

itx sized case

[arctic lotus]

like are you saying a 4090 requires a 360 rad

[topaz solstice]

not with the 4090 she wants

[crisp rune]

looks like a wide xbox series x lmao

[topaz solstice]

look at the radiators dimensions

[arctic lotus]

i saw

[solar gulch]

ONG 😭🙏

[arctic lotus]

this case should be able to do both the gpu and the 360 rad

[solar gulch]

no shit she wanted a suprim not founder its just a random image i found

[solar gulch]

crazy

[topaz solstice]

add the rads thickness to the length of the gpu, and then add in 25mm (fan thickness)

matx will be the minimum case size

now if it was an air cooled 4090 it might be possible for itx

you also forget that you have to make room for the adapter @arctic lotus

[arctic lotus]

what adapter

i wish pcpp would add a way to sort by gpu length

[topaz solstice]

they do

[topaz solstice]

the 4x pcie to pcie 5.0/12vhpwr

it comes with the gpu, though i see only 2 model lines from 2 brands that have a direct pcie 5.0/12vhpwr adater

[desert mist]

they don't have to explain it just cause they mentioned it

[solar gulch]

Yes

[topaz solstice]

most sff builds are restrictive in different ways, most of the time it's power choice, any sff build tends to be the least cost effective build, and any radiator support they have is aimed at a cooler for the cpu never gpu @arctic lotus

[desert mist]

Cause SFF cpu coolers sorta suck lol

They’re not as effective anyway as a 120-240mm aio

[topaz solstice]

not true, thermalright actually has a decent one

[arctic lotus]

i hear 240 is just fine

[lusty tiger]

Thermalright FTW lmao

[desert mist]

Thermal right is the goat tho so I mean

Noctuas SFF coolers are meh

[topaz solstice]

for most

[arctic lotus]

how do i know what rad the case will support

apparently all of these can do a suprim x liquid and 360mm rads

[unreal zenith]

She chose mini itx?

[desert mist]

Really all you’d need to worry about it 240/280+360 support at the same time other then that. You could just weight aesthetics with functionality such as front IO support and Sata drive shortage slots, PSU dimensions,and general mounting capability etc. which with ITX is pretty shit either way you go about it cause it’s so constrained

But either way with ITX you’re gonna take a massive compromise somewhere no matter what you do

[pale tulip]

https://caseend.com/ if itx

[arctic lotus]

ive always considered itx

[gentle elm]

you kinda gotta choose before anything else

[arctic lotus]

ive already been doing that

we can literally quantify the m.2 and usb

along with other mobo features

[arctic lotus]

idk maybe if i go sfx psu

but if i can fit a 200mm long atx psu. then why not go atx

[pale tulip]

cause atx is bigger than itx

[arctic lotus]

with psus i am literally not worried about the length

im talking about psus

itx isnt for psus

thats sfx

[pale tulip]

same thing

ure nitpicking

[arctic lotus]

yeah but communication is important rn when talking about 3 different parts

[pale tulip]

depends on the case

[arctic lotus]

mobo case psu

[pale tulip]

ok fair

[desert mist]

Doesn’t really matter you’re still sacrificing a lot of working space for a smaller overall build

I personally like Full sized ATX/EATX board just cause they breath better and have room for huge rads

[hollow orchid]

says the person who is blocking anyone that says something that you don’t like

[steel sapphire]

got em

[hollow orchid]

i’m probably one of them cuz i said something “rude”

[crisp rune]

i was unblocked earlier for explaining a raspberry pi and helping

i love pi

[lusty spire]

I had that mindset firstday on the first thread 🤣 should check back

lots of planning? Interesting, when did this thread start

[steel sapphire]

this thread idk

but the first one started late july

[topaz solstice]

you'll have to drop to gen4 nvme's if you do for sure

[lusty tiger]

its also a maximum of 2 right?

[topaz solstice]

yeah if you drop to itx

[sturdy anchor]

I’d get matx tbh

Actually no, laptop

[arctic lotus]

why

a laptop is out of tbe question lmao

[gentle elm]

Too much heat

And can you please decide on form factor it’s been 3 days since we told you you had to decide before we do anything else

[lusty spire]

Tbf they spent today discussing Raspberry Pi's

[lusty spire]

Get a framework laptop, and, jerry rig it, and, hook up a 4090 with a ryzen 7950x3D

[lusty tiger]

I’m sorry what?

[lusty spire]

what?

Framework laptop, you hook it up with an mobile 4090

you swap out the cpus for smt more powerful

[lusty tiger]

and how would you go about that?

[lusty tiger]

literally impossible

[lusty spire]

How?

[lusty spire]

Wdym how you would go about that

It's pretty simple

You take a framework laptop

[lusty tiger]

best cpu available for the framework laptop

[lusty spire]

Hook it up with an mobile 4090

[lusty spire]

Still dont get the impossible part

[lusty tiger]

i mean the 7950x3D is literally impossible. you cannot get a cpu better than the 7940HS

[lusty tiger]

yes, and how would you "hook it up"

[lusty spire]

You can

[lusty tiger]

no you cant

[lusty spire]

you can

[lusty tiger]

how

theyre not socketed

[lusty spire]

and?

[lusty tiger]

and the framework laptop does not have a cpu better than the 7940HS. any better one would be on a different laptop

[lusty spire]

and?

[lusty tiger]

so youre wrong when you say "get a framework laptop and upgrade the cpu"

because you cant

[lusty spire]

you can

get a framework laptop upgrade cpu and gpu

[lusty tiger]

you cannot upgrade the cpu. It is physically impossible

[lusty spire]

How is it physically impossible

[lusty tiger]

because laptop cpu's arent upgradable

[lusty spire]

???'

?????

idk what youre on

[lusty tiger]

you just don't want to admit you're wrong

[lusty spire]

XD

im wrong?

Its physically impossible to chhange cpus on laptop

[lusty tiger]

actually, i should say: most laptop cpus aren't upgradable

[lusty spire]

How do cpus get there anyway?

all youd do is just replace the mainboard

its pretty simple

[lusty tiger]

yes, and the best mainboard has the 7940HS. you cant get better than that

but dream would buy it with the 7940HS anyway

[lusty spire]

????

you still dont get it do you

think for a second what I said.

UPGRADE

JERRY RIG

DIY

[lusty tiger]

and how would you do that. im going to assume youre just making up bullshit unless you have a legitimate way to "upgrade" that laptop

[lusty spire]

??

Wdym howd you do that

Dream's budget is:

Yes.

It'd simple, you get someone to manufacture the mainboard with the upgrades

[lusty tiger]

since you're saying it can be done, tell me how it can be done

[lusty spire]

just told you

[lusty tiger]

fuck off

[lusty spire]

That is very rude

you might not think it is, as dream said the same to you

[lusty tiger]

you're so obviously trolling

[lusty spire]

but it is very rude

[lusty spire]

Trolling??

You dont wna admit youre wrong

[lusty tiger]

im not wrong

although it is theoretically possible, it would cost dream as much as it did framework to design their laptop. which would be more than any pc you could possibly build

[lusty spire]

You just admited being wrong, while saying youre not wrong

[gentle elm]

You are so wrong it’s impossible to use a desktop cpu on a laptop

[lusty tiger]

Bro says “it’s simple” but refuses to explain

[lusty spire]

You are so wrong

[lusty tiger]

All a load of bullshit

[lusty spire]

You are so wrong

that even AMD is doing it

[lusty tiger]

Prove it then

[lusty spire]

Ryzen 9 7945HX3D

[lusty tiger]

Show your sources

[lusty spire]

Google it

Bing it

Search it up

Sources ^

[lusty tiger]

Show me your exact sources

[lusty spire]

Why dont you find where im wrong about this

Dont need to explain myself, to someone who isn't giving any concrete argument

[lusty tiger]

Because you’re claiming it’s possible. Where did you see it, how was it done

[lusty spire]

Just told you

look back up

[lusty tiger]

The framework laptop is soldered. I only know of 1 laptop with a desktop cpu in it, and it was not as good as its mobile counterpart

You have no concrete argument either

Put up or shut up

[gentle elm]

Bullshit

[lusty spire]

scroll back up. reread what I said

then come backup with a argument

Hint:

DIY

CUSTOM

NEW MAINBOARD

FRAME.WORK

[gentle elm]

Wow cus that’s simple

[lusty tiger]

so a liar and a troll

[gentle elm]

Yeah

[lusty tiger]

<@&750150305383186585>
Please do something with this user. They are clearly trolling and are not contributing to the thread in any meaningful way.

[gentle elm]

Yes mods please

[lusty spire]

Liar and a troll?

I told you how

Why

and where

[gentle elm]

He is always arguing for zero reason then telling them that they said they were wrong when they didn’t

[lusty spire]

What did you tell me?

GIVE ME SOURCES

[lusty spire]

Bold of you to say that, as you jumped in started arguing when me and creeperboy were having a convo

I feel like you'll are just projecting

and creeper you're mad for being theoretically wrong

[lusty tiger]

You said it was simple. A custom mainboard is literally the opposite of simple

[lusty spire]

It is pretty simple

The tech exists

The people who make the tech exists

The idea exists

All you do is apply

Simple and complex are about perspective

[lusty tiger]

If it’s that simple, come back in the time this thread(s) has existed with your custom laptop mainboard

I’ll wait

[lusty spire]

Did I ever mention somewhere I was going to be making one?

No

Did I ever even say, I wanted a laptop?

No

So stop projecting

[lusty tiger]

I’m done. You’re clearly incompetent

[lusty spire]

So you're done now?

How interesting

Why do everytime you lose an argument you try to derail it?

[lusty tiger]

I am not responsible for finding sources for your sorry excuse for an argument. If you say something is possible, much less “easy”, you need to provide the sources.
Have you ever seen a prepared debate between people? Each debater comes with sources to back up their own argument, not their opponent’s.
Where. Are. Your. Sources.

[hollow nymph]

What the heck going on here

[lusty spire]

Wdym provide sources? Your brain can’t comprehend the thought of manufacturing?

[lusty spire]

I’m sorry I don’t run your local debate club mate

You go do that

I don’t play by your rules either

My sources, is common knowledge

You can google it if you don’t understand

[topaz solstice]

no room to properly cool a gen 5 drive, as in no way for active cooling

[topaz solstice]

no where as good as a desktop one, and it requires you to hook up to main to use it properly

[lusty spire]

Tho technically, would be a pretty good laptop, and, decently sized in terms of sff

[topaz solstice]

not true, there is a 7950x3d for laptops due out

[lusty spire]

xD now he's gonna ask for source

[topaz solstice]

on the framework one's you're suppose to be able to as it's all modular

[lusty spire]

Told him that, he doesnt like being wrong

[topaz solstice]

it's also $2k for base model, when i can get the same setup for $1.2k minimum

[lusty spire]

It's cheaper longer term

$1.2k laptop

[topaz solstice]

actually.... nope

[lusty spire]

How?

[topaz solstice]

a lenovo legion 5 slim is cheaper long term

an asus rog strix g15/ tuf a15 is also cheaper long term

dell g15 also cheaper long term

and none of these 3 alone will be thermal throttling on either the cpu or gpu so easily due to not having sufficient cooling

[topaz solstice]

@lusty tiger rumour mill for how good it will be, but...
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-introduces-16-core-ryzen-9-7945hx3d-mobile-cpu-with-3d-v-cache-launches-august-22nd
https://www.techspot.com/news/99584-amd-reveals-ryzen-9-7945x3d-processor-gamers-first.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/311718/amd-announces-ryzen-9-7945x3d-flagship-mobile-processor-with-3dv-cache
and info about the mobile cpu from amd itself https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-9-7945hx3d

[topaz solstice]

difference being, i have sources i can point to without it sounding like i'mma trying to troll

[lusty spire]

Id rather not waste time into his lazyiness and denial of himself

[topaz solstice]

the downside of it being a 7#45 cpu is that it has the crappier rdna2 igpu (610m) and not the decen rdna2 (680m) nor the decen rdna3 igpu (780m)

[topaz solstice]

nothing for you to know or worry about, but if you're here but not for helping the OP, leave

[hollow nymph]

I am here to help op

[arctic lotus]

exactly where vcache can shine the hardest

[topaz solstice]

we'd have to see in regards to mobile devices (laptops)

and it still has a sucky igpu

would of rather it be a 7#40hs line of amd mobile cpu's

rdna 3 igpu (780m) that performs equal to that of a 1060 (3gb)

[arctic lotus]

i need case recommendations today.

[topaz solstice]

means a minor performance loss if you go from mains to battery for gaming

[topaz solstice]

you've already been recommended a corsair 4000d airflow and 5000d airflow, both are mid-atx cases

i would add in the new 3000d airflow also

[pale tulip]

or an o11 mini

small-ish but spacious

[arctic lotus]

which one

[pale tulip]

5000d airflow

[topaz solstice]

the $134 usd one

[arctic lotus]

what about the other ones

[topaz solstice]

you dont want it to be stuck with icue at all, ever

[arctic lotus]

why not icue

also im guessing the chipset or cpu doesnt matter for the front panel usb at all since its the mobo that determines it meaning the case wont be able to tell you whether the header is off the cpu or chipset, but in most cases, its off the chipset anyway.

[topaz solstice]

can freeze the system, and locks you into a single rgb ecosystem with some really crappy fans, and an aio that get's beaten by aio's at half it's price

[arctic lotus]

hm okay

[topaz solstice]

flow chart to help you find decent fans

and these all can be controlled via motherboards own rgb software or using signalrgb instead

though if you want to save on cable managing, phanteks d30, arctic bionix p120 a-rgb, or lian li's unifans

as these all have a method of connecting together and only requiring 1-2 cables in total to run all the fans

[prisma spindle]

look at your moblie and thats a system on a chip

you are some joke

[arctic lotus]

so there are 2.5 bays on the case too.

[topaz solstice]

preferably any case you get should be free of fans so you can set it up with any of these in an arrangement to give you best airflow and perfomance from the case @arctic lotus

[arctic lotus]

why not just have all of them be 3.5 bays if the 2.5 can fit inside the 3.5

[topaz solstice]

it would mean more materials and increasing the cases size

[arctic lotus]

are you saying, get a case without fans

[topaz solstice]

when the ssd's can easily be mounted straight on to the mobo tray instead

[arctic lotus]

and then buy the case fans separate?

[topaz solstice]

yes

[topaz solstice]

quite obviously, as any cases (apart from the fractal torrent) comes with cheap shitty molex/DC fans

[arctic lotus]

are the expansion slots the weird lego metal pieces on the back of the case?

[topaz solstice]

the parts where the gpu ports show through, yes

[arctic lotus]

whats a riser then

[topaz solstice]

a cable that extends out the pcie slot

[arctic lotus]

why would i need 9 of those

[topaz solstice]

ideal airflow in a case

[arctic lotus]

oh right the riser is cable. does it come with the case

[topaz solstice]

you'd only need 1 if you're to vertically mount it

[topaz solstice]

usually optional unless it's an itx case

[arctic lotus]

wdym by vertically mount it

[topaz solstice]

vertically mounted gpu

[arctic lotus]

optional to use it or optional to come with the case at purchae

[topaz solstice]

optional to purchase

[arctic lotus]

wouldnt that gpu take up more than 1 of those metal slots

if mounted like this

[topaz solstice]

how it's normally mounted in a case

[runic bloom]

Yes

[topaz solstice]

and depending on the case, and the gpu, it can when vertically mounted

vertically mounted but not using the built in pcie slots for vertical mounting

2 pcie slots for vertical mounting

[arctic lotus]

so this is called horizontal mount

[topaz solstice]

as most gpu's will take up at least 2.5 pcie slot

[topaz solstice]

yes, though it would be how you would normally mount it as standard

there are a couple cases that will vertically mount a gpu from the top of the case in a way like this

[pale tulip]

5nail5 had a bit of trouble trying to make 10 D30s work without frying the rgb port fwiw

[topaz solstice]

considering the argb port is only meant to handle 200 individual led's in total , i'm not surprised, it must be well over that amount in the process, though it should realistically make it dimmer unless a hub was used and it caused the issue

some powered hubs are poorly made to the point they send the voltage back into the mobo, which ends up frying the port

[pale tulip]

he had to make his own adapter or smth idk

[topaz solstice]

wondering how much power draw the led's on a d30 are, let alone the amount of leds it has

[pale tulip]

30 leds holy

[arctic lotus]

im just gonna call them covers

[topaz solstice]

yeah, 4fans = 120 led's then, so your limit per header would be 6 fans at most

180 led's total then

[arctic lotus]

💜 i am building my first pc part iv 💜🩷

[topaz solstice]

10 fans to much for a single argb/rgb header where the d30's are concerned

would have to do 5 fans per header in his case, or use a decent powered hub

[prisma spindle]

Well clearly you haven't pick it yet

[arctic lotus]

🌸Building my 1st PC Gen 4🌸

[prisma spindle]

why do we help her

its clearly shows she is being a dick toward us

[pale tulip]

nothing better to do with our time

[prisma spindle]

oh she's typing

[arctic lotus]

honestly, just defending myself. there are people ik irl hovering this chat, and they all just talk shit cause everyone in here is insane. pc builders have lost all sense of reality and are completely out of touch with normal socializing.

For example, i have no idea who you are. you are blocked, and you havent helped once.

[pale tulip]

oh no in some cases you were one

[prisma spindle]

well love. you are being a dick to people who are trying to help you

FOR EXAMPLE, you tell me or get lost, if you aint going to help im going to block you.

[prisma spindle]

fucking clown

[arctic lotus]

nope

[prisma spindle]

Yes

Maybe stop being stupid and just begging for people to help you. Where you got the google to help you and vids to help you. We are here to help you to build your pc, we are not google to give you more detail report about each part. we are here to help you pick the right part and give you the best performace. Dont be a little demanding person expecting us to give you detail analysis report of each part then get mad at us because you dont understand then blocking us because "We are not helpful" if you know why do you need our help. Stop making us go around in circle that what you been doing for the past 2 months

<@&750150305383186585> shut this post down. Cos clearly she been taking the piss with me and wasting everyone time

[pale tulip]

blud really said: MODS blow up his house

[prisma spindle]

lol

[topaz solstice]

some of the generalization in this breaks rules 2 + 4, though your choice of words calling a pc that's around 2k as being a budget pc is a giant leap from reality itself

[arctic lotus]

not really. the economy is changing.

[topaz solstice]

yes really

[prisma spindle]

anything under 1k is a budget pc

[arctic lotus]

$750 and $1000 pcs are getting worse and things are changing for sure.

[prisma spindle]

calling 2k pc a budget pc is crazy

[arctic lotus]

still definitely possible but

[prisma spindle]

wtf. No it not

[arctic lotus]

also, i ofc disagree with the rulebreak of 2 and 4. that's definitely a stretch.

[prisma spindle]

for 750 to 1000 you can build a mid range pc that can play triple A games for few years

[arctic lotus]

inflation has easily doubled consumer prices

[topaz solstice]

for $1k sure, $750 would be pushing it

[arctic lotus]

so a $1600 gpu is expensive, but its not really as expensive as what youtubers are saying

[prisma spindle]

ok true with the 750

[arctic lotus]

2k budget pc, is completely reasonable nowadays. of course, that's not what im going for tho

[topaz solstice]

oh it is, when said gpu is being scalped in the process

[prisma spindle]

cos they are top of the line gpu that why its going to cost more. and people are scapled them and making the price higher

Do you ever use your brain

[arctic lotus]

2k is not really a luxury pc tho. unless youre just happy with how much tech has advanced. but it's still a trade off.

[topaz solstice]

you do realise during silicon shortage, a $800 gpu was being scalped for $2k-4k

[runic bloom]

2k literally could get you a 7900xtx and 7800x3d

[arctic lotus]

i dont think people should be paying more and more money as the years go by for new tech. but it is what it is

[topaz solstice]

it actually is quite a luxury pc

[runic bloom]

The second best gpu on the market

[prisma spindle]

she doesnt know that, She think she right

[runic bloom]

One of the top cpus on the market

Calling that budget is pretty crazy

[prisma spindle]

you can both get 7900xtx and 7800x3d for new

[arctic lotus]

its a great cpu

[prisma spindle]

with 2k budget

[topaz solstice]

tbf event a 7950x3d + 7900xtx is possible for 2k

[prisma spindle]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/sZqp99

[topaz solstice]

cooler is shit in this tbh

[pale tulip]

a770 + a 7600 is around that isnt it

or a750

[topaz solstice]

a750 + 7600

[arctic lotus]

also this is $2400 lol

[prisma spindle]

cos its in my currency gbp

[arctic lotus]

a 2k budget is really more like $1800-$1950 spent.

[topaz solstice]

more like 2800 usd as it's 2400 gbp

[arctic lotus]

yeah lol

[runic bloom]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fy3vjH

Under 2k

[prisma spindle]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/x42V3C

[arctic lotus]

okay so i keep hearing ways of making a 360mm rad fit inside a smaller case, what kind of modifications do people do, to achieve this

[prisma spindle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/3KkXsY

[topaz solstice]

for some the case already supports it, for others, they attack said case with a dremel/grinder

[arctic lotus]

how do you know if your case has removeable drive bays?

[pale tulip]

rtfm

[arctic lotus]

almost asked what that meant again

do pc cases have manufacturer websites for them too where i can find the manual?

[pale tulip]

..yeah

[topaz solstice]

always do, just like mobo's always have

[arctic lotus]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-cases/cc-9011211-ww/5000d-airflow-tempered-glass-mid-tower-atx-pc-case-white-cc-9011211-ww

wheres the manual

nvm i found it

[topaz solstice]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6zjgBL almost $2.1k usd, without compromising for game play

i could drop to a 7800x3d to make it cheaper and put in a 4tb ssd instead

[arctic lotus]

you would have to, since its above 2k

[topaz solstice]

nope, like i have shown, 7950x3d is possible

[arctic lotus]

why are we all building budget 2k pcs tho lmao

like i understand you can have a nice cpu and gpu that are not budget lmao

[topaz solstice]

we're showing what you can get for $2k

[arctic lotus]

that's definitely, not what im doing tho

[topaz solstice]

even mobo choice is not budget at all

considering how well asrock is nailing it currently

[arctic lotus]

i like asrock, ive heard good things

[topaz solstice]

before 700 series intel, and 600 series amd mobo's they was mediocre at best

now it's full on A-game

[pale tulip]

Z690 PG Sonic is so goated

[topaz solstice]

790 version is way better tbh, though even the riptide and lightning are so much better

then there's the big daddi of them all for asrock, the taichi

[arctic lotus]

so what does rear front and all that mean

[topaz solstice]

front of case, top of case, rear of case

very simple

[pale tulip]

dude its legit just a lightning but with sonic

[arctic lotus]

so the radiator always goes up against a pc case wall

[topaz solstice]

for rear and top yes

front it depends on the case, sometimes it does, sometimes it's on a tray that can screw in instead

[pale tulip]

bit rare

[arctic lotus]

so by front you mean, sometimes it goes up against the wall, but sometimes it does not

[topaz solstice]

nah, just depends on the case in question

[topaz solstice]

correct, there are cases that have a tray that the radiator can mount to instead and then that's slid in and screwed down

[arctic lotus]

okay, so what does this one mean, when it says

motherboard tray - 360mm

[topaz solstice]

as an example, nzxct h5 flow uses a tray there that's held in with 2 screws

[topaz solstice]

the spot where the motherboard sits

[arctic lotus]

but how can a radiator go there

[topaz solstice]

and if it's the 5000d af, then it has a spot for a 360mm radiator to sit right next to the mobo

[arctic lotus]

wouldnt the mobo be in the way

or do you mean like, next to it side by side

not underneath it

[topaz solstice]

5000d airflow

[arctic lotus]

the thing on the right

[topaz solstice]

space for 2x 360mm on front and side

with a custom loop in

again custom loop

atx mobo being used in both

but depending on your setup you might not be able to use the side for a radiator so instead you'd put fans only as they're slimmer in thickness

standard fan thickness = 25mm, thinnest radiator thickness = 33mm

with aio and the cover for directing airflow from the side

said cover also hides cables

so you get what they was refering to now ?? @arctic lotus

[arctic lotus]

um, yeah i think so.

motherboard tray as in back panel instead of side panel.

but its next to the motherboard because its so big and large instead of it being under the motherboard where all the cable management happens.

[topaz solstice]

kinda, cable managent is at the back of the case never under the shroud tbh

[arctic lotus]

that's what i meant

[topaz solstice]

also if you notice, this looks alot cleaner with the shroud the way it is

[arctic lotus]

not below as in -y

i meant, -z

[topaz solstice]

and the gpu rests on the shroud when vertically mounted

[arctic lotus]

275 x 117 x 54mm1.

these are the dimensions of the suprim liquid x radiator

does this mean this counts as a 280mm radiator

[topaz solstice]

yes

[arctic lotus]

so if i want to go this aib, i need to find a case with 280mm support

[topaz solstice]

and anything that takes a 360mm rad will definitely take a 280mm rad

[arctic lotus]

rad support i mean

[topaz solstice]

meanwhile anything that takes 240mm is not garuanteed to support 280mm rad

[arctic lotus]

okay cool, what do you do with the extra open area.

do you just leave it

[topaz solstice]

leave it mainly

though with some, if it was a 240mm rad, then you might br able to add an extra fan

[arctic lotus]

are radiators better than regular fans

[topaz solstice]

you mean are they better than air coolers

both require a fan still

[arctic lotus]

do regular fans come in the same sizing too, like 120mm, 140, 240, 280, 360 etc

yeah air coolers

[topaz solstice]

liquid coolers are more thermally efficient over an air cooler

[topaz solstice]

there are larger sizes over 140mm for fans but those are for specific cases that require a 200-230mm fan

[arctic lotus]

can you fill up the case with radiators instead of air coolers, or do you need to have at least 1 air cooler

im talking case coolers btw, not cpu cooler

[topaz solstice]

nope you can fill most up with radiators but you still have to be mindful of the airflow in the case

[arctic lotus]

idk how airflow works

[topaz solstice]

there is no case cooler, it's just cpu cooler

[runic bloom]

are you confusing normal case fans for a cpu cooler?

[pale tulip]

uh

its just air

do u not have any windows in ur house

[arctic lotus]

no i think, i intentionally stated this to avoid that question

[topaz solstice]

....... @arctic lotus

[arctic lotus]

i have 1 window in my apartment

[pale tulip]

and what happens if you close it

do you have any air coming in

same thing with a pc kinda

you need air coming in from outside

and the fans move in the air

[arctic lotus]

are there other configurations? what are all the combinations? cause sometimes the most ideal isnt possible.

i was already aware that the sku side of a fan is the exhaust side.

[topaz solstice]

https://cdn.coolermaster.com/media/assets/1063/600p_4-imageleftorright.gif

[arctic lotus]

what does open and close mean in this graphic

[topaz solstice]

there's negative pressure, there's postive pressure, and then there's neutral pressure setups

[topaz solstice]

ignore that bit, follow the arrows instead

[arctic lotus]

which pressure was the one in the picture way earlier

okayy

[topaz solstice]

positive/neutral

[arctic lotus]

i see the front back, bottom top

so that's positive

[topaz solstice]

yeah

negative is when all fans draw air in, which tbh not the best way especially if room is tight

[arctic lotus]

why would anyone do that

[topaz solstice]

also as a reminder, psu fans go like this for air flow

[arctic lotus]

is there a graphic for negative pressure

[topaz solstice]

some like to claim it is being better

[arctic lotus]

what exactly is neutral pressure

[topaz solstice]

neutral to positive is the ideal way, as it draws cool air in while helping the convection of hot air out

though neutral is more about keeping it a constant even airflow

which is doable mainly by setting custom fan curves

you don't want fans running 100% all the time but you do want it to have decent air flow

[arctic lotus]

so the top one is negative

the one in the middle is neutral

and what determines the neutrality of it, is if the same mm x mm amount of cooling is being exhausted as the intake

meaning a case with a 360mm intake rad in the front and a 240mm exhaust rad in the rear with a 360mm intake rad at the bottom and a 360mm rad at the top is slightly negative since the exhaust power is slightly weaker than what is being intaked.

a true negative pressure is 100% intake
a true positive pressure is 100% exhaust

[arctic lotus]

so this would be neutral at heart, but slightly negative.

which means certain placements must be high priority for cases and rad sizes

like a 360mm rad is more valuable in the rear then, because it means a higher chance of having a positive pressure set up.

and a 360 mm in the front is less valuable because its a higher chance of having a negative pressure setup without a 360mm rear rad.

but ig you can just set everything to exhaust if need be

but a 360mm on the rear and the top are more valuable than a 360mm on the bottom or front.

how does the side play a part in airflow then?

should air go from side panel to back panel?

cause afaik, it's impossible to have a rad on the side panel

so then what do people set their mobo tray rad to? probably always exhaust, unless you are going for a more neutral set up. in which case you can do 1 intake and have that as the mobo tray rad.

[arctic lotus]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Hrbp46D0CJg?si=yfpPcxlFZ1TU39kk

whats the difference between cfm and inh20

[arctic lotus]

so yeah diving deeper into cases, it looks like picking one will be more like picking a mobo

theres a lot of non performance things to consider

what does cpu max length mean? arent all cpus the same height basically

except server cpus

[topaz solstice]

you mean cfm vs mmh20

[arctic lotus]

maybe, im not sure

[topaz solstice]

airflow vs static pressure

most fans nowadays have a decent amount on both though it depends on what fan you look at

50-70cfm with 2-3mmh20 is where you want to be for alot of them

static pressure = amount of air that can be pushed through tight gaps

and as for airflow that's to do with the speed the fan runs at to draw in enough air per each rpm

[arctic lotus]

what does cfm and mmh20 mean

[topaz solstice]

like i said, airflow vs static pressure

[arctic lotus]

idek either of those tho

[topaz solstice]

when drawing air through a radiator, static pressure > airflow

[arctic lotus]

only just learned airflow today

[topaz solstice]

when no obstructions are present, airflow > static pressure

[arctic lotus]

wdym

[topaz solstice]

though airflow fans tend to be noisier than static pressure fans

[sturdy anchor]

You know how some cases have solid front panels, thats were you’d use static pressure fans. You would use airflow fans for cases with mesh front panels

[onyx jay]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-strange-doctor-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-i-didnt-know-that-really-gif-15647739

I thought just the stock ones were fine 💀

[topaz solstice]

you'd use static pressure fans on cases with mesh as well tbh

[topaz solstice]

not really

[topaz solstice]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQHkDEcgDPm34Mns3C93K6SJoBnua-x9O-y_6hv8sPs

[onyx jay]

I mean they come with the case, can’t be that bad

[topaz solstice]

most are molex, so still no

[onyx jay]

These aren’t molex

And even if they do doesn’t matter, just plugs into the board

[topaz solstice]

what case?

[onyx jay]

Coolermaster h500p

[topaz solstice]

looks to be pwm for this case, still would swap the fans out for better

[crimson niche]

Case with included fan dont worth it most of the time the fans that come with it is big trash

[pale tulip]

oh theyre fine

[crimson niche]

Ye just fine ok but still that not good

[desert mist]

maybe if you buy from a shit manufacturer but every case I've bought from fractal has had the aspect 120 fans and they're pretty nice

[crimson niche]

Fractal is a exception

[topaz solstice]

fractal torrent is the biggest exception tbf

5 fans with a hub that you set and forget

[lusty tiger]

What’s with the “gen 4” in the name

Makes much less sense than the original

[lusty spire]

dooes it tho? SignalRGB

freeze system?

Been using ICue for over 6 years

Yeah its a little intensive for an rgb program

but doesnt freeze

[crisp rune]

whats wrong with the fractal torrent

[topaz solstice]

with some peeps it does freeze their systems, and with icue setup you're running it all through the commander core/pro if you use their aio/fans

[crisp rune]

I so confused rn

[lusty spire]

Can run commander core/pro, without ICue

https://openrgb.org/devices.html

^ one of the many that suppoort it

[crisp rune]

Rauko please help

[topaz solstice]

nothing, it's the only case that comes with fans that you never need to worry about swapping out tbh

[crisp rune]

oh good good

its why i like it lmao

[lusty spire]

why?

it has shit fans

just get a good case

and put your own fans on it

[topaz solstice]

nope, it actually has decent fanst that come with it

[crisp rune]

the fractal torrent is a good case 🤦

good for air cooling

[lusty spire]

Decent, but not goood

[topaz solstice]

it's part of why the torrent was marked as the best airflow case for several years

[lusty spire]

It also looks kinda bad from the front

[crisp rune]

i like how it looks...

its all opinion

only issue is its not pink

but black is second best color

[lusty spire]

Do you have it sitting on your desk?

only 1 usb, sad

[crisp rune]

ok and?

[lusty spire]

Wdym and?

[crisp rune]

mobo has more

[lusty spire]

i asked a question

[crisp rune]

and my mate has it, ive seen what it looks like

[lusty spire]

So you dont have it

[crisp rune]

primary reason its my favourite case

[lusty spire]

So you don't know if you actually like it or not

Sure it loooks fine to look at once in a while

[crisp rune]

bruh why did my emote change

[lusty spire]

but its there everyday

[crisp rune]

ok and?

[lusty spire]

it'll loook ugly

[crisp rune]

ok and?

[crisp rune]

thats ur opinion not mine

yeah that looks nice

i really like that

[lusty spire]

then buy it

[crisp rune]

no money

[lusty spire]

It's only $189

[crisp rune]

ok and i have no income

[topaz solstice]

meanwhile still the best airflow case comparatively despite the fans being louder

[lusty spire]

Id sacrifice airflow, for a lil more looks, also fans to be as quiet as possible

@arctic lotus should make your setup like this

[crisp rune]

ok and thats your opinion?

dont try to force ur opinion onto others

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/820674210862071810.webp?size=64

[arctic lotus]

this but pink would be cool

[lusty spire]

Right cllick the thread, and, click unfolloow

no one is forcing

[arctic lotus]

purple girls are toxic af

[lusty spire]

You mean the lights inside?

If so yeah, you can change it to pink

[arctic lotus]

yeah

[crisp rune]

this isnt ur thread tho, im here to try help dream if i can help in any way lmao

[arctic lotus]

what case is this

[lusty spire]

NZXT H9 Flow - All White

[topaz solstice]

a case where the glass will end up damaged, also it's a knock off of the o11d

[arctic lotus]

this is so valuable.

[lusty spire]

you can always get new glass

[topaz solstice]

gamernexus's reviews you need to check the,

[topaz solstice]

doesn't matter it's not a viable case for going in to a van life build eventually

[lusty spire]

didnt she cancel the van

[arctic lotus]

micheal stole my post name. idc but i kept tapping the wrong chat

[topaz solstice]

nope, it's just on the back burner

[lusty spire]

she said she's going to buy a laptop after this

just l eave your computer at home

and use parsec to remote in

with your laptop

[topaz solstice]

she will be using that alongside the pc

[lusty spire]

Wdym alongside

1 hand on computer

1 hand on keyboard?

[topaz solstice]

also, when van life happens, the van would be her home

[lusty spire]

whatever you say ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[arctic lotus]

so airflow for open areas especially ones set for exhaust and then static ones for up against a wall or part

[topaz solstice]

so the desktop would have to be a build viable for that

[lusty spire]

So dont go with 4090

got it

Go all amd, and, save on power

[arctic lotus]

i hate to scare everyone but after the pc. either in here or in another thread will be a whole laptop journey.

but thats after i buy parts and have build day and post pictures

its cause i have a very specific use case and very different priorities for the laptop

[crisp rune]

you gonna do a custom laptop???

[arctic lotus]

no

[topaz solstice]

i've already mentioned the laptops worth getting as it is

[crisp rune]

the laptop should be very easy to decide on then

[arctic lotus]

well with laptops. I HATE big screens

so ironically thats what i will be focusing on

[topaz solstice]

15" is average/small tbh

[lusty spire]

thats what she said

[lusty spire]

get framework, and buy all the modules

[topaz solstice]

which is why i mentioned only the 15" screen models

[lusty spire]

when you feel like doing smt different

swap them out

[topaz solstice]

fuck no

[lusty spire]

wdym no

its the best idea

best of all the worlds

just have a bucket full of modules

[topaz solstice]

nope it's not at all

[crisp rune]

rauko they seem like they are trolling

[topaz solstice]

like i said, what you pay for the framework laptops, you get the same specs for $1.2k minimum

[lusty spire]

and?

dont see the point there

Would you rather carry around 5 laptops

or just buy the modules for framework

and hotswap whenever

[topaz solstice]

you wouldn't be ever doing that

[gentle elm]

hotswap laptops

pov: pokey playing cod on his laptop and mid game quickly swaps laptops for zero reason

[lusty spire]

?

thats what isaid

not to do that

instead you can hotswap a module

like if youre gonna go out somewhere, just take out your gpu module rq

and carry a lighter laptop

need more ethernet ports?

wait no more

[gentle elm]

its still not hotsway you still have to unscrew and unplu8g

[lusty spire]

usb c, usb a etc. etc.

[lusty spire]

depends on which module

[gentle elm]

none are

[lusty spire]

would be faster than syncing multiple laptops

[gentle elm]

you just dont even have a point

[crisp rune]

👍

[lusty spire]

I said

rather than having to deal with dongles

or multiple laptops

you can just have 1

for it all

with someone who has a budget of Yes

frame.work, would suit them well

unless they need more power ofc

but i doubt that

[pale tulip]

folding?

[lusty tiger]

A high end gaming laptop would have lots of io

You literally have nothing of value to give, so just leave

Or I’ll report you again

[lusty spire]

Blackmailling me?

If i dont leave youll report me?

[lusty spire]

Its not just about io, its about the convertibility of laptop

[pale tulip]

this is not blackmail

this is threatening

[lusty tiger]

I didn’t ask you to pay me money

I’m saying that since you’re trolling, leave now

[lusty spire]

Im trolling? Not someone playing minecraft, with a literal creeper as there pfp

and 09 in there name

I don't get in your face you dont get in mine

[pale tulip]

lmao what does one have to do with the other

[lusty tiger]

The fuck does that have to do with anything

[pale tulip]

<@&750150305383186585>

pokey being annoying again

[lusty spire]

What have you done in this thread so far mate

Apart from everytime creeper is loosing an argument

to come in and report me to mods

nothing

[pale tulip]

what have you done in this thread?

[lusty spire]

helped dream more than you

[pale tulip]

my ass

lmao

go away

https://tenor.com/view/nah-he-tweakin-bruh-funny-reddit-spongebob-gif-22836929

[lusty spire]

Sus, you only talk when creeper is talking

Very odd

but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow orchid]

tf does that have to do with anything

[pale tulip]

seeking for attentio

his parents didnt give him enough as a kid

[lusty tiger]

2 blatant lies

What is wrong with you

[pale tulip]

whatever stop replying

[lusty tiger]

Yeah

[lusty spire]

You want me to explain

Okay lets see:

Last 3 days we'll do an overview

[hollow orchid]

you should explain why to stfu

[pale tulip]

gottem

whatever

let the mods mute him

[lusty spire]

Me: Says something that someone could potentially be done.

Creeper: THATS IMPOSSIBLE

WoopyMan: @ Mod THIS GUY IS TROLLING

^my bad accident ping

[pale tulip]

nah i pinged them for this

[hollow orchid]

i really think your privilege of speaking should be removed from you

[pale tulip]

whatever, dont act like a saint at least

[hollow orchid]

wow that has so much to do with this

[lusty spire]

Eitherway mods know, this hopefully by now as creeper pings them everryday

Hf

[pale tulip]

get a hobby, i think

[lusty tiger]

Dm who

Another lie

[lusty tiger]

Seriously….wtf

[pale tulip]

this is my hobby <3

[crisp rune]

lmao, i love it when trolls start getting vexed cus they cant prove a point

[hollow orchid]

pokey you sound like the type of person to ask “if you’re flying through the desert and your boat gets a flat tire what should you have in your pockets”

[lusty spire]

Same, me and creeper have this argument everyday

it ends with him saying stop derailing

I can smell it coming

[pale tulip]

would you rather have unlimited games but no bacon, or unlimited bacon but no bacon

[lusty tiger]

Your smelling is ass

[hollow orchid]

or in another case make sense with nothing

[lusty spire]

Well first off, its a desert not an ocean

[crisp rune]

neither, i want a life ( pleas esaell me one i no hav e)

[lusty spire]

Secondly its a desert, So you want flat tires

[topaz solstice]

wow and ?

[hollow orchid]

you weren’t supposed to answer it dumbass

[topaz solstice]

and half of it is ramdom shit with no helping at all

[lusty tiger]

There was 1 thing he said that was actually helpful, and that was the position of speakers. But it would be irrelevant anyway if dream uses a van

I didn’t think about this before but buying the framework laptop with all the io modules instead of “using a dongle” is also stupid because you’re replacing 1 multiport dongle with like 10 single port dongles

[hollow orchid]

lmao pokey you got anything else to say?

[remote sapphire]

The 4000d also has one usb

[hollow orchid]

doesn’t it also have usb c

[topaz solstice]

that's what cheese stated

[hollow orchid]

oh mb i didn’t see that

[tame minnow]

What the performance difference of the 4070 Ti and 3080 Ti

the price of those are about the same

I was wondering which one I might go with

[gentle elm]

torrent honestly looks so good and classy

[lusty tiger]

Use your own thread

[gentle elm]

^ but 4070ti is 3090ti level

[crisp rune]

its hot

[gentle elm]

fr

[tame minnow]

Ohh sorry never used these threads before

[tame minnow]

alr gotcha 👍

thanks again

[lusty tiger]

It’s fine. I said that because there have been quite a few people asking their own questions in this thread and others

[tame minnow]

Yea

[arctic lotus]

Building my 1st PC part iv

[hollow orchid]

blud made the title special

[solar gulch]

Perfect for her

[crimson niche]

Lmao this is the most stupid raison i seen in a while

Plus totally not even true lol

[steel sapphire]

purple is objectively the best color

[lusty tiger]

Personal preference

[steel sapphire]

u also think purple girls are toxic af i take it?

[lusty tiger]

No

[orchid oracle]

Fr all colors are fine

[lusty tiger]

I mean I like purple too. I’m just saying that a favorite color is a personal preference

[orchid oracle]

Why should purple be worse

[orchid oracle]

Sure- but can’t be to the point where someone is being toxic about it

[lusty tiger]

Yes, no one should be toxic about opinions

[orchid oracle]

What’s this then

[solar gulch]

blue

[crimson niche]

I want dream to answer lol

[orchid oracle]

lol

[sturdy anchor]

Green

[crisp rune]

Pink

[arctic lotus]

answer what

building my 1st pc

[crimson niche]

Look above

[arctic lotus]

yeah i have no idea what you all have been talking about

and i dont even remember what i was talking about in here

but the case is going to be pink obviously

[crimson niche]

You making assumptions about puple girl toxic for no raison and no prof

🤨

[arctic lotus]

well, now i know you are a man lol

anyway, #1153136851431989259 message

i updated the post

[crimson niche]

Stilll why you think purple girl toxic in assumptions without raison

[arctic lotus]

youre a man so you dont understand, but i feel like you should since it was a big thing a couple years ago.

but it's basically girl culture, everyone knows it.

it's like a meme

[crimson niche]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-spit-take-cracking-up-haha-so-funny-omg-gif-17921247

Nope

[arctic lotus]

so like, even purple girls will go "welp ig im a bitch cause my favorite color is purple"

[crimson niche]

Na

Idk where tf you thinking that

[arctic lotus]

or sometimes they not say their favorite color is purple when meeting a new gf

[crimson niche]

Lmao

Not here

[arctic lotus]

you can also always tell, when it's their favorite color.

[crimson niche]

Na

[arctic lotus]

cause they specifically choose purple shoes, or wear a purple bracelet / band

[crimson niche]

I dont live in a country that make stupid assumptions

[arctic lotus]

etc

idk what to tell you. it's just how it is.

[crimson niche]

Usa let me guess

[arctic lotus]

yeah

[crimson niche]

💀

[crisp rune]

Sexist?

[arctic lotus]

but like, if you were a man in the states, i doubt you would even know about it.

but maybe

it became a bigger meme that im p sure men knew about for awhile then went away

[crimson niche]

She seem like it

[arctic lotus]

it was like a short lived meme that men who actually had gfs could talk about.

[crimson niche]

Happy to not be in usa

[arctic lotus]

it was really funny when the gf's favorite color was also purple lmao

[crimson niche]

I have s gf and she like purple but she not a bitch so your thing is just shit assumptions

I know a lot of girl that like purple and they are not bitch

[arctic lotus]

the reason it's like a meme is cause, when you are growing up as a girl, it's basically either pink or purple is your favorite color when you are a kid. so the running joke is that girls who pick purple are trying to be "different" and when they get older some of them will even go like

"but im not like other girls" so thats like a huge meme in the girl community.

[crisp rune]

That first comment is sexist...

[crimson niche]

She seem sexist

[crisp rune]

None of my friends growing up liked pink except me and I was the only man in my friend group

[arctic lotus]

what do you use where you live, "blud"

blud didnt even listen to what i said lmao

[crimson niche]

Lmao idk what shit your saying here

[crisp rune]

The word blud doesn't suit you 💀