building my 1st pc

[topaz solstice]

bs, that's easy to find, hence why i said to go for the victron inverters

[arctic lotus]

do you have any links or recommendations

[topaz solstice]

https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Datasheet-Phoenix-Inverter-1200VA-5000VA-EN.pdf

if you keep it's airflow maxed out the 5kw one you're garuanteed 4000w max continous load

[arctic lotus]

what is the peak power for

[topaz solstice]

https://www.victronenergy.com/inverters/phoenix-inverter-12v-24v-48v-800va-3kva

[topaz solstice]

power surges, power up inrush

[arctic lotus]

how do you buy it lol

so peak power is for transients?

[topaz solstice]

click on the second link and click on 'where to buy'

[arctic lotus]

why do you have to find a location?

[topaz solstice]

yup, power inrush currents happens the moment you turn something on

[topaz solstice]

to find the nearest dealer near you to buy it from

[arctic lotus]

here are the ones nearest to me

now what

[topaz solstice]

click on the blue one and on the side it tells you the dealer

[arctic lotus]

do i go to there website

https://kilowattpowersystems.com/shop/ols/all?sortOption=descend_by_popularity

[topaz solstice]

naturally so you can see the cost

[arctic lotus]

which one is it

[topaz solstice]

those are quattros and not the phoenix but would also work

https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Datasheet-Quattro-3-10kVA-120V-EN-.pdf

[arctic lotus]

so this one can do 10,000w continuous load

[topaz solstice]

it has the posibility to do that yes

but you won't need above the 5kw one

[arctic lotus]

ill just get this one

[topaz solstice]

the 5kw one, not the 10kw one

[arctic lotus]

why

[topaz solstice]

you shouldn't be hitting above 4kw no matter what

[arctic lotus]

these could easily handle the 13900ks in a van

[topaz solstice]

also 48v means you need to have 4x 12v heavy duty batteries

[topaz solstice]

so could the 5kw one

[arctic lotus]

okay

[topaz solstice]

you also got to remember you're limited on space

[arctic lotus]

are they all the same size

[topaz solstice]

there's also solar panel management you have to fit in the same location as that inverter

[arctic lotus]

the 10,000w cont one is smaller than 2ftx2ftx2ft

so it really small

[unreal zenith]

what did I miss to where she needs a 10k watt power thing

[arctic lotus]

well i just dont know what other things i might need and what they use

[topaz solstice]

no, no it's not, especially for it's weight

[arctic lotus]

idc about its weight

[topaz solstice]

you should, that affects what you can put in a van, as it has a limit

to much weight and you bottom out the suspension

[arctic lotus]

yeah except, i already know it can handle 128lb inverter riding on the inside

[topaz solstice]

add in the weight of the bed, cupboard, sink, water tanks, shower, etc...

that adds up quickly especially with framework for it all

[arctic lotus]

yeah but that's fine. i dont have an option of not going an inverter

[topaz solstice]

with van life, no you don't

[topaz solstice]

inverters like this are quite limited in many ways tbh, and don't allow you for having multiple things on the go at once

[topaz solstice]

ford transits take 3.5t before bottoming out with their suspensions

[arctic lotus]

sounds about right then

[topaz solstice]

still though, 5kw quattro/6kw phoenix inverter

gives you more than enough flexibility

[arctic lotus]

why go a 5kW quattro over a 5kW phoenix?

[topaz solstice]

you mean over a 6kw phoenix

[topaz solstice]

phoenix setup

[arctic lotus]

this looks like a 5000 to me

[topaz solstice]

quattro setup

[arctic lotus]

why is the charge controller off to the side in this diagram

[topaz solstice]

quatro allows you to have a generator as well as using "shore" power that

[topaz solstice]

because the phoenix is just an inverter

where as the quattro allows you to charge the battery off of public mains/generator

though you would also be having a solar setup hooked up to directly charge the battery

[arctic lotus]

are the phoenix the ones that are called multiplus now on there

[arctic lotus]

so the quattro has the charge controller built in

[topaz solstice]

yes for mains charging

not for solar charging

[arctic lotus]

why can't i just use it for the solar array

that way i dont have to buy a charge controller on the side

[topaz solstice]

because it doesn't have the solar charger built into it as a system

there is another one that also does have the solar controller built in, but you really want to keep that separate from any inverter

[arctic lotus]

what would be the point of having it be able to charge from mains

[arctic lotus]

which one 👁️ 👁️

[topaz solstice]

essentially if you ever went to one of those RV parks that have an electric hook up, you can bypass and run off that instead

[arctic lotus]

probably wont ever do that tbh

https://kilowattpowersystems.com/shop/ols/products/mulitplus-compact-12200080

this one can do 2000w continuous

[topaz solstice]

https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Datasheet-Multi-RS-Solar-EN.pdf

[topaz solstice]

no, you would need 2 of them and that's never wise for what you'll be going for

[arctic lotus]

why 2

[topaz solstice]

1 for the pc, 1 for everything else, it also create a higher drain on the battery

the multi rs that i linked's setup

[arctic lotus]

i dont see a 4kW version

also im p sure my pc + psu wont use 2000w cont load

[desert mist]

Not even close

It should even peak anywhere close to that.

[topaz solstice]

shouldn't**

[desert mist]

Yes

Typo

Still waking up

[arctic lotus]

well the inverter's peak would be even higher

at that point it just depends on what i will use in the van

can i get some examples of the cont load required by stuff i might need

cause honestly i have no idea

[topaz solstice]

depends on totally what you want to have in the van build

will there be a working shower?

will you have a fridge?

will you want a way to have hot drinks?

[arctic lotus]

i just need examples

[topaz solstice]

harder to give examples without know what else you want inside the van alongside the pc

and i did give some examples way earlier in a previous thread of yours

[hazy hedge]

I’m actually doing the strix that was just a fill in card

[arctic lotus]

oh okay that makes more sense

are you doing the white strix

[hazy hedge]

With the optima waterblock

[topaz solstice]

you'll want to reduce it's power draw on that tbf dude

[arctic lotus]

what does tbf mean

[hazy hedge]

Overclocking to the moon man

To be fair

I think

[arctic lotus]

oh okay

[hazy hedge]

I may be wrong

[topaz solstice]

nah, if you lower it's power draw you barely get any reduction in performance

[hazy hedge]

Good old under volting

[topaz solstice]

yeah, if you get it locked to 300w it's only like a 10% drop, but you can reclaim most of that with the ram and an OC on the cpu tbh

still will have the transient spikes happening but it shouldn't be as harsh a spike in the end

[hazy hedge]

Buttt I’m most likely shunt modding it lol

[topaz solstice]

@hazy hedge

[hazy hedge]

Yikes

That’s worse then the Amazon game lol

[topaz solstice]

led lights can be powered directly off of a battery, same with the phone tbh same as a water pump

[topaz solstice]

this afaik is without shunt modding

@arctic lotusalso for the fridge it depends if you want a 12v powered one or a mains powered one

[arctic lotus]

i already have a nice mini fridge

[topaz solstice]

mains powered?

[arctic lotus]

idk

[topaz solstice]

well do you have to plug it into the mains directly or via an adapter ?

[arctic lotus]

oh thats what you meant by shore

shore power

like rv hookup

[topaz solstice]

yup

[arctic lotus]

im not doing a microwave

i hate microwaves

[topaz solstice]

so a hob or 2 + oven ?

[arctic lotus]

not even a major life change either, i havent had a microwave in over 2 years

whats a hob

[topaz solstice]

the top section of a cooker

[arctic lotus]

either that or one of those electric stovetops

[topaz solstice]

where you can get electric/induction hobs or gas burner

[topaz solstice]

well that will be off the inverter

[arctic lotus]

ive talked with friends and we all sort of think i shouldnt go an oven

cause idrc about the oven either

[topaz solstice]

ok, and staying single fuel type that means

so no lpg gas/diesel heating, and no lpg gas burner

[arctic lotus]

i think, i might be able to fit everything on a 2000w cont load

[topaz solstice]

nope

it's why alot of the van/truck/whatever builds go for a 3kw inverter tbh

the 5kw would be more ideal for your use

fans will be 12/24v for use in the van, pump itself will be 12/24v, lighting 12/24v so they can be off the batteries directly

but computer, hob, tv at least off the inverter

will you be having a shower in the van ?@arctic lotus

[arctic lotus]

those ones advertise the cont load. so if i went with that one, 3kW would be fine.

cause the peak would be much higher

[topaz solstice]

also , you plan of having a mini-split air conditioner in the van at all ?

[arctic lotus]

and i honestly dont have a lot that i need. its mostly just the pc

tbh no, prolly just a vent.

like a fan

those fans get really cold

[topaz solstice]

yeah the do reasonably well

[arctic lotus]

i also have the vehicle ac and vehicle cooler / ac

[topaz solstice]

that runs off the car's battery and generally only covers the front cab and doesn't flow into the back of the van

[arctic lotus]

the cab will be taken out completely

there will be no wall

[topaz solstice]

also you have to ensure the coolant for that is topped up

[topaz solstice]

you mean the wall will

[arctic lotus]

yeah

[topaz solstice]

though that has some structural use to it, so it may be best to essentially just have a doorway cut into it

[arctic lotus]

i probably wont make a mini door for it

[topaz solstice]

rather than a full removal of the wall

[arctic lotus]

idk how a vanlife shower works

but i do really want one

vanlife toilet too

idk what else i would need

[topaz solstice]

water tank -> rv pump -> electric shower

[arctic lotus]

probably nothing else

[topaz solstice]

1-2kw for that

those toilets eh, they just tend to be a composting one afaik

/https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Datasheet-SmartSolar-charge-controller-MPPT-150-35-&-150-45-EN.pdf solar controller i'd suggest to go for

[unreal zenith]

did she even decide on the van she wants

[arctic lotus]

yeah

ford transit

[topaz solstice]

yup

[unreal zenith]

Ok good

[topaz solstice]

if i remember correctly it's the long wheelbase high top

[arctic lotus]

yep

that's the dream

[unreal zenith]

Is there room for a setup in there

[arctic lotus]

longest possible. highest possible

plenty

theyre huge

[topaz solstice]

definitely, just got to plan the layout right

[arctic lotus]

pictures make it look small, but you see them everywhere. every day. just look out today.

the problem with me tho

[topaz solstice]

ever seen some of the fedex vans ?

[arctic lotus]

is i HATE short beds. and i feel like a king is barely long enough for me.

i dont even care, if it is wide

i just need long

im kind of a very tall girl

[unreal zenith]

yup

[topaz solstice]

fair few of them are ford transits or mercedes sprinters

[arctic lotus]

i am 5'8" but im really sensitive to the bed length

[topaz solstice]

well the beds always go along the width and never the length of the van

usually around 4ft x 6ft

[arctic lotus]

meaning im 68 inches long. and a king is 80 inches long. i have a king right now.

[topaz solstice]

and in most vanlife builds it's by the back doors with the electrics under it

<- 5ft 10in

[arctic lotus]

but i always wanted a cali cause its 84 inches long.

[arctic lotus]

yep

if the shower is too much. ill just do a gym membership

[arctic lotus]

i like the gym and i get a huge discount at my job for it

so i can pay $5 a month at planet fitness with my discount

[topaz solstice]

similar plans work for a long wheelbase transit as it does for a sprinter

[arctic lotus]

showers are included

and i love their showers tbh

[desert mist]

Air fryer life 🤌🏻

[arctic lotus]

optimal

[arctic lotus]

honestly yeah something like this, but most likely ill just meet people who have these and then i will go to their place when i need or something.

[desert mist]

Ahh

Air fryers are neat. You can get them that are multi purpose to do frying, dehydrating, rotisserie etc

[arctic lotus]

cause most likely will still be rooming with people when they want me over, but doubling the van as a failsafe for when they want me out

it avoids the whole issue of all of that

[remote sapphire]

that really look sick ngl

[arctic lotus]

ive already tested it too

[topaz solstice]

it's how most vanlife builds end up

[arctic lotus]

i can literally, post and have my lodging setup for the night or even for a couple days.

[topaz solstice]

truck ones offer a bit more room and flexibility tbf

[arctic lotus]

or i can fall back onto my van

[topaz solstice]

inside shot that has a similar effect to that

[desert mist]

very claustrophobic

[remote sapphire]

thats fire, but i would never want to live in that

[desert mist]

and I'm not even claustrophobic

[arctic lotus]

not to me

that's literally SO much room it's INSANE

[arctic lotus]

what vehicle is that

[topaz solstice]

longwheelbase, could be either a mecedes sprinter or ford transit

[arctic lotus]

tbh i dont like sprinters

[topaz solstice]

will warn you, that you'll end up going vinyl flooring for both ease of cleaning and water proofing

[arctic lotus]

as far as budget goes too, i wouldnt personally need all this

my laptop will be separate from this build too

not sure what chairs i can do for my van

[topaz solstice]

rad's are way cheaper than that for a custom loop

pump with reservoir is no more tha 250 tbh

"fittings" if that's for the custom loop setup that you said you won't be doing, well you'll be paying more than nearly 80

you won't be getting a desk not for van life, any counter top will be doubling up as your desk

or even a small table if it can be fitted in will always double up as your desk

[arctic lotus]

so about 12k without the keyboard

[hazy hedge]

Is that from my list? Lol

[arctic lotus]

yeah

[hazy hedge]

I knew it looked familiar

[topaz solstice]

you may want the headphones, mic and amp though

[hazy hedge]

Goxlr mini

[arctic lotus]

im already going the 7950x3d and the suprim liquid x so that already saves me some money comparatively.

about $900

[arctic lotus]

i have a snowball mic that a discord friend got me. i had a yeti in 2015 that i sold to my brother

i have headphone, but nothing nice.

[hazy hedge]

I really need to update my list lol

And actually fill in the names of things

[arctic lotus]

but if the 13900ks was $450

i would only be saving about $600

too bad it went back up

[hazy hedge]

Shure MV7X XLR Podcast Microphone - Pro Quality Dynamic Mic for Podcasting & Vocal Recording, Voice-Isolating Technology, All Metal Construction, Mic Stand Compatible, Optimized Frequency - Black https://a.co/d/beOs9I3

This is a good mic

[topaz solstice]

https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/302937512448534359/small vid clip you should look at

[arctic lotus]

oh youre doing 2x16GB not 2x32GB. so you are probably going 4 sr sticks then?

[hazy hedge]

Who me?

[arctic lotus]

yeah

[hazy hedge]

Let me check

[arctic lotus]

i doubt they are dr

[hazy hedge]

4 16gb at 7600mt

[arctic lotus]

oh these $20 speakers were on clearance for $5 so i got 3 of them

now i should have a laptop speaker for watching videos

[arctic lotus]

yep ive seen a lot of these. full build outs too

honestly might even consider not using the sliding door.

im also very skinny

i can fit through any 8 inch corridor

with ease

probably could manage 6 inch corridors too

but ig if i have guests over

i feel like i wouldnt mind entering through the driver seat tho

or being able to jump out through back doors

also why dont i just do one of these

for my bulk drive

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CTTp99/sabrent-rocket-4-plus-8-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sb-rkt4p-8tb

if i did a 850w psu could i go a smaller inverter?

[topaz solstice]

you could but you'd want to swap out that 4090

[arctic lotus]

how much smaller could the inverter be

[topaz solstice]

3kw should be more than enough

[arctic lotus]

3kW was gonna be more than enough before

2kW would be tight.

but what if i went 850w psu, would a 2kW inverter be less tight

[pale tulip]

i mean

(powerlimit the 4090)

[topaz solstice]

not if you wanted to run the pc with something else at the same time

[topaz solstice]

still would be tight

[arctic lotus]

less tight tho

or does the psu size have no impact on the inverter size?

[pale tulip]

((its the most humane way to use the 4090))

[arctic lotus]

what is eps or eps12v

[topaz solstice]

it's the cable for the cpu

it splits into a 4 pin + 4 pin

[arctic lotus]

why does it stand for entry power supply

[arctic lotus]

does the psu form factor only specify the height and width? not the length

[topaz solstice]

mainly yes

[hazy hedge]

@arctic lotus I’m working on the list now for the most updated version

[hazy hedge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ItsMicheal/saved/s9Ndqs

ok here is the most up to date

still missing stuff tho

[crisp rune]

thats... alot of money.

[hazy hedge]

eh its not that bad

[crisp rune]

fair enough, this is like the best you can get right?

[hazy hedge]

Yeah and it’s my whole setup desk and everything not just a pc

[crisp rune]

oh wait thats your setup?

[hollow orchid]

💀

[crisp rune]

and yeah i realised that

[lusty spire]

my mans house burnt down, he relocated, resetup, bought new pc, buildding new pc

All whilst this thread is talking about what now?

motherboard?

[hazy hedge]

Lol

[gentle elm]

damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[steel sapphire]

more like trying to get a silicon architecture degree

[lusty spire]

You have $20k budget, but cant afford decent speakers? So using $5 speakers? Interesting

Very interesting

[lusty spire]

Have you considered the optimal spot, and the frequency your ear hears at which the speakers are placed at if its optimal

Also have you seen the performance of the speaker, if it is upmost quality

is the connector the speaker using, up to grade?

Before mods you mute me for not being on topic, these are genuine questions that have been asked before by her in previous threads

[lusty tiger]

It doesn’t make that much of a difference. And besides, headphones are better anyway

[lusty spire]

Huh?

You do realize speakers are far superior than headphones

Headphones are just way cheaper

and dont blast everyone else

However at that price point headphones would suck, due to how bad the quality woul dbe

speakers would sound terrible atleast wouldnt hurt your face tho

[lusty tiger]

Are you sure

[lusty tiger]

Wouldn’t hurt your face?????

[lusty spire]

Wdym are you sure? It's a pretty easy question to answer

just go look at how headphones function

[lusty spire]

You put headphones on your head

You put speakers on your desk

Cheaper price = Lower quality

Lower quality = discomfort

Discomfort = not optimal conditions for face

[lusty tiger]

That doesn’t hurt your face lol

[lusty spire]

not optiomal conditions for face = hurt face

[lusty tiger]

Also, there are good headphones

[lusty spire]

$5?

[lusty spire]

There are good headphones really good ones

but there are even better speakers

[lusty tiger]

The “most optimal” placing is approximately equidistant from your head

[topaz solstice]

tbf with a van build she can skip going for normal speakers and tie audio into the vans audio

[unreal zenith]

that wouldnt be as good audio quality I think

headphones would be better

[topaz solstice]

you'd be highly surprised tbh

especially as it goes through an amp, as well as if it's professionally done, the boxes the speakers are built into are tuned to set frequencies for best audio output

[mortal slate]

Give up already dream

Are we past the 22tb hard drive bullshit

[lusty tiger]

if you're not going to help, leave

refer to the pinned message

[gentle elm]

Sounds like your only experience is with absolutely terrible headphones and haven’t tried good ones

[lusty spire]

What?

Are you guys on

Holy.....

[gentle elm]

Based on what you said you’ve never used good headphones

[lusty spire]

What are you actually on

[gentle elm]

Good ones sound way better that speakers don’t hurt your head

[lusty spire]

.

[gentle elm]

Nothing

[lusty spire]

Might help, if you read the full thing

$5 headphones

vs $5 speakers

[gentle elm]

Yes but who is spending $5 on speakers or headphones

[lusty spire]

Dream is

Wow 🤯

[gentle elm]

Okay and did you read what they are for?

[lusty spire]

.

[gentle elm]

She said for laptop speakers for watching videos not gaming

[lusty spire]

Unless they're to recycle the parts inside them

Theyre trash

[lusty spire]

Gaming would be managable

you dont really need that good quality sound

videos?

Would suck

listening to vocals being wack

[gentle elm]

You need good audio for gaming……..

[lusty spire]

bass and treble being absolute trash

[lusty spire]

Not really

You can play stardew without any sound

You can play minecraft without any sound

[gentle elm]

Okay ever tried playing any fps without audio

[lusty spire]

have you ever heard of deaf people playing without audio?

[gentle elm]

Hell even racing games ain’t fun without audio

[lusty spire]

aint fun is different

playable yes

and racing games with $5 speakers would be fine

and fun

[gentle elm]

Well then you can watch videos with no audio by that reasoning

[lusty spire]

Mhmm you can

but notreally

[gentle elm]

And even watch music

[lusty spire]

Not all videos have captions

not all music has captions

[gentle elm]

Thx for proving my point

[lusty spire]

Instrumental

[lusty spire]

didnt prove any point

at all

Music wants quality

[gentle elm]

not all games have captions and even if they did you wouldn’t get a good experience

[lusty spire]

Like which game?

tell me

[gentle elm]

Every shooter or racing game won’t have captions for “enemy shooting to your left”

Or “car go vroom”

[lusty spire]

Uh

are you sure?

[gentle elm]

Yes

Lmao

[lusty spire]

Enemy shooting to your left

bullet traces

coming from left

dots on maps

for people that you can see might not be in fov

[gentle elm]

Ah so you play cod only got it

[lusty spire]

screen flashing red

[lusty spire]

?

never played cod

was mentioning valorant

but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

be a hater

[gentle elm]

Almost no other games have red dots when you shoot

[lusty spire]

when you shoot? Who said that

[gentle elm]

Oh yeah forgot Valorant did that

[lusty spire]

Almost no other games have red dots Oh forgot that game also has that

[gentle elm]

um almost every shooter I play dosent

[lusty spire]

Maybe you play wrong games

[gentle elm]

I think one does which is cod

[lusty spire]

Overwatch

csgo doesnt really, but it hass different accessbility modes

[gentle elm]

Wow how can an option be wrong explain?

[lusty spire]

payday has captions

[lusty spire]

e ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gentle elm]

Yes for talking not for everything

[lusty spire]

you dont need anything else

it tells you if alarm tripped

[gentle elm]

Look what this guy is saying…..

[lusty spire]

it tells you if someone is screaming

[gentle elm]

Dude…….. you don’t have a point here

[lusty spire]

She has 3, so that wouldnt work

[gentle elm]

If so please explain

[gentle elm]

She already said those aren’t for gaming they are for watching vids on her laptop

[lusty spire]

Im saying deaf people can play games too

so playing games with trash speakers work

However yk what deaf people cant do

magically start hearing videos that dont have captions

that trash speakers can do

[lusty spire]

???

?????

????????

[gentle elm]

Yes but there is a difference between physically not being able to hear vs willingly not hearing

[gentle elm]

Literally right here

[lusty spire]

What are you saying?

did you even see what i was replying to

or making up stuff llike before

[lusty spire]

Like what

[gentle elm]

Lmao

[gentle elm]

[lusty spire]

thatd be 1 spot

the rest 2 speakers are left

eitherway @lusty tiger what about calculating optimal height for the sound

[gentle elm]

Let’s see hmmm one cant physically hear anything the other chooses not to hear anything

[lusty spire]

both result into what?

not hearing

🤯

anyway

stop sidetracking this thread

?

You are mocking them if anything

[gentle elm]

HOW

[lusty spire]

Both result into not hearing

how is that mocking?

[hollow orchid]

how are they mocking them?

[lusty spire]

lol

[gentle elm]

Who?

[lusty spire]

Who?

[gentle elm]

Anw not even sure how you made this involving deaf people

We need to get back onto topic of helping dream

[hollow orchid]

you guys were saying something about mocking deaf people

and i looked up and didn’t see what was mocking

[gentle elm]

Just the general of what this guy is saying is mocking

Maybe I’m misunderstanding

[lusty spire]

Like what

Huh

[lusty spire]

What is mocking it?

[gentle elm]

.

[lusty spire]

Ah so now we need to get back on topic?

that you have ran out

of more reasons to go against what I said?

[gentle elm]

I’m not going to continue this nonsense argument

[lusty spire]

Fun

Uh huh

Nonsense argument that i started

¯_(ツ)_/¯

get on topic help dream hf

[gentle elm]

.

[gentle elm]

Okay last thing I re read and no you weren’t mocking anyone

I misunderstood a few things you said

[gentle elm]

That would work well I think if you can manage to wire the pc into the van

[lusty spire]

Nop

it'd be the best quality

[solar gulch]

fortnite has visual audio

[lusty spire]

i thought this was obvious tbh, ig not anymore

speakers trend is gone

[solar gulch]

p sure that csgo had minimap icons for sounds

[gentle elm]

Honestly I like having both speaker and headset for depending on what I’m doing

[lusty spire]

You dont have good speakers/headphones then

[lusty spire]

yeah they did

csgo 2 has some newer stuff

[gentle elm]

Eh I got good headphones just I went bare minimum for good quality with speakers

[lusty spire]

I dont think you have good headphoness nor speakers

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gentle elm]

How?

[lusty spire]

from your opinions

it doesnt seem like it

Which headphones do you currently daily drive?

[gentle elm]

G733 light speed

So not the best but pretty good for gaming only

[lusty spire]

not really it sucks

[gentle elm]

How

I literally only use them for gaming

[lusty spire]

1. Wireless
2. Usb audio
3. a gaming headphone
4. logitech

5. mic attached

[gentle elm]

A. What’s wrong with 1 and 5
B. What is the problem if I like them

Actually only B really matters

[lusty spire]

What's the problem with anything, if people like it?

Whats the problem with piracy, if the pirater doing it likes it

[gentle elm]

Well you took that really extreme

Here’s the difference one is illegal one is just a preference

That’s the thing with basically all peripherals they are mainly opinion

[lusty spire]

whats the problem with illegal, if 1 likes it

[lusty spire]

not really ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Headphones are science

Mice are science and dependent on that there are categorizes for feel

[gentle elm]

What……..

[lusty spire]

whats the problem with it being illegal, if 1 likes it

[gentle elm]

The fact that it is illegal maybe?

[lusty spire]

The fact that it is proven to be bad maybe?

[gentle elm]

Yes

[lusty spire]

how the turned tables have turned on you again

Now help dream, and stop derailing this thread

[gentle elm]

Lmao you keep taking every thing I say and taking it extreme

[gentle elm]

?

[gentle elm]

.

[lusty spire]

sometimes some people need to see what they said, to understand what they're saying ¯_(ツ)_/¯

you happen to be among them

[gentle elm]

Okay what does dream need help with

[lusty spire]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

idk

[solar gulch]

cs2 is shit

[lusty spire]

22tb hard drive

sounds fun

how much is it?

[solar gulch]

well kinda

[lusty spire]

i dont like it, i played it for like 15 mins

[gentle elm]

Fr its just cs1 without the fun and worse graphics

[lusty spire]

it felt weird

[solar gulch]

its really unoptimized

[lusty spire]

stop derailing

[gentle elm]

I agree

[solar gulch]

it has way better graphics

[lusty spire]

really? i got decent fps

[solar gulch]

a lot of people have fps problems

[gentle elm]

Sorry yeah I said that wrong not sure why I said worse I meant better

[lusty spire]

odd, i was playing in 4k

[solar gulch]

itll be like 100 with like 5 fps lows

[gentle elm]

I had some also

[solar gulch]

i have had problems too

every once in a while when a grenade goes off or on some specific maps my fps just dies

[lusty spire]

f

[gentle elm]

I had 144 with like 30 fps lows

[lusty spire]

what gpu

[gentle elm]

7900xt

[lusty spire]

7900xt
and still a shit headphone?

sad

eitherway thats probably why

im on Nvidia

and havent had problems

[solar gulch]

my rx 6600 gets like 100 and 10 fps lows

[gentle elm]

Oof

[solar gulch]

but i think its my cpu

zen 1 is sad

[gentle elm]

Ah I got zen 3

[solar gulch]

r5 1600 struggles a lot

[lusty spire]

the last conversations we;ve had, you have been under Dunning–Kruger effect explains alot about your opinions

[solar gulch]

lmfao

[gentle elm]

?

[solar gulch]

dunning kruger effect goes hard ngl

[lusty spire]

frr

[solar gulch]

ong

[solar gulch]

do you not know what the duning kruger effect is?

[lusty spire]

they prob do , but they dont know that they actually dont, however, they dont know that either so theyre just saying ?

[solar gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-gif-25116077

[gentle elm]

Yeah I just forgot

[solar gulch]

sure

you def went and googled it

[gentle elm]

Dude we don’t gotta be best friends but can you atleast not try to argue with me every chance you get

[gentle elm]

Lmao yeah

[solar gulch]

eat

[lusty spire]

proved my point

Once again

[gentle elm]

?

Oh wait 💀

Missspel

[solar gulch]

mississippi

[gentle elm]

Mississippi

[solar gulch]

mippississi

[gentle elm]

Yipisisisisisiiss

[solar gulch]

simmippippi

[gentle elm]

Wimkniipppipipu

[solar gulch]

we finna get timedout with this one 🗣️ 🔥

mmippiggimmi

[gentle elm]

Why

[solar gulch]

cuz we spamming random shit

[topaz solstice]

it can be done and it doesn't even need to be any kind of outrageous setup tbh

[gentle elm]

Oh yeah we gotta stop

[solar gulch]

sississisii

[gentle elm]

Nice that’s a good idea then

[lusty spire]

get it done by a proffessional

[lusty spire]

Yeah, would be pretty simple

[lusty tiger]

Basically useless, as most cheap speakers are angled up toward your ears

[lusty spire]

They could be angeled too far up though

so you might consider lowering your desk

[lusty tiger]

Fym not hearing

[lusty spire]

being deaf

[lusty tiger]

There’s no difference between speakers and headphones for making you deaf

[lusty spire]

What?

Huh?

[lusty tiger]

The reason is because people turn the volume up too high

[lusty spire]

how did we come to talking about this?

[lusty spire]

just be under 60 decibels

and youre good

[topaz solstice]

couple 1 inch tweaters, couple 4 inch mid range and a 8-10 inch sub

[gentle elm]

Stop man I’m being serious I don’t want timed out or even warned

[solar gulch]

mi

[lusty tiger]

Sure, Since volume wheels are totally labeled with decibels

[lusty spire]

You're 99% being timedout

[solar gulch]

si

si

pi

teehee

[lusty spire]

your ears can feel it

i have my windows volume at 80%, and have my amp under 80%

pretty healthy for ears

250 ohw headphones

[topaz solstice]

though you can skip the midrange and tweeters by using some coaxial 6x9's

[lusty tiger]

All volume ranges will be different

Your ears don’t measure decibels, and no one can tell without a decibel meter what level it’s at

[lusty spire]

You can def tell the difference

between 30

and 100

[lusty tiger]

I didn’t say you couldn’t

[lusty spire]

You just did

[lusty tiger]

No I didn’t

[lusty spire]

no one can tell without a decibel meter what level it’s at

[lusty tiger]

The difference between 30 and 100 is astronomical. Of course you’d be able to tell

[lusty spire]

So you can tell without a meter

[lusty tiger]

approximately

But saying “stay below 60” is useless

[lusty spire]

you hear 100 decibals

you know youre hearing too much

you hear 80

you know its too much

[lusty tiger]

Because no one will be able to tell what volume 60dB is

[lusty spire]

they can tell if theyre above it or below it

[lusty tiger]

How

[lusty spire]

put your volume at 5% for 10 mins

and listen to music

Pause

wait 10 mins

put volume at 100%

listen for 10 mins

[lusty tiger]

And what dB is 5%?

[lusty spire]

Tell me if the first time was lower or second one

[lusty tiger]

That’s still not helpful lmao

[lusty spire]

Depends, what headphones do you have, how good is your motherboard sound

[lusty tiger]

Exactly

It will always be different

[lusty spire]

Except i told you about my headphones spec

which you can calculate

[lusty tiger]

No

I can’t

[lusty spire]

At 10 dB, we can hear breathing. 20 dB is similar to the sound of leaves moving. Whispering usually happens at around 30 dB. A normal conversation is usually 60 dB. Everyday traffic tends to be around 70 dB, with trucks making closer to 80 dB sound.

[lusty tiger]

And anyway, this is a useless conversation

[lusty spire]

Mhmmm

help dream

[lusty tiger]

And you’re not

The speaker placement was the most helpful thing you’ve said

[steel sapphire]

arguing with the regulars here is just gonna give you brain damage

[lusty spire]

Did you leave LTT server last month c reeperboy?

[lusty tiger]

Yes, why

[lusty spire]

no reason, but why youd leave?

[lusty tiger]

There was a bit of a controversy, but it’s cleared up now

[strange cairn]

Motorcycles hitting 90dB sometimes

[lusty spire]

drumline hits 100dB+ very easily

[lusty spire]

like what

[strange cairn]

No hard evidence but I’ve had a headache from hearing 105dB (own an acoustic drum kit, my first), can cope with buses going past a metre from my face (probably 80-85), ears rang after a motorcycle accelerated 10m away

[lusty spire]

Probably because you arent used to it, If you were in highschool band 100dB+ would be your normal double forte

[strange cairn]

Uhm

Every semester there’s a concert at my school

[lusty spire]

and?

Concerts dont get that loud

[strange cairn]

I don’t enter the hall

[strange cairn]

Excuse me?

only thing in the room was a decibel meter in my hand

[lusty spire]

Goto a footballgame, in stands where there are 100+ people blasting there horns away

[strange cairn]

just read it for the duration of the performances

I’ve been in a band before, heard drums loud

[lusty spire]

Loud loud?

How many were there

[strange cairn]

Spent hours throwing up at night

[lusty spire]

Geez

[strange cairn]

Doesn’t matter, only matters how much the drummer had to drink

[lusty spire]

;-;-

[strange cairn]

(Once I get there)

[pale tulip]

dude

take conversations to dms

[prisma spindle]

hello boys and girls

what are we on?

[gentle elm]

Why does pokey keep arguing with people for no reason then when he dosent like that they beat him in the argument he just says “get on topic”

[gentle elm]

I believe audio

[topaz solstice]

side stepped to audio still have yet to select a psu and mobo for dreams build

[gentle elm]

Okay so let’s go to psu

WHY CANT I SPELL

[mortal slate]

Idfk

Not mine

[lusty tiger]

Idk why we still haven’t chosen. The dark power 13 is clearly the winner here

[mortal slate]

No actually let’s make this as complicated as we can

[lusty tiger]

Bruh

Let’s not

[lusty tiger]

If you’re not going to help, don’t message here

[mortal slate]

Ok dad

@lusty tiger what’s a good 90 degree 12vhpwr adapter

[lusty tiger]

Probably cablemod’s, but ask your own questions in your own thread

[lusty spire]

Literally scroll up and see you did that 4d

[heavy axle]

monthly checkup time
guess we're on PSUs now

[steel sapphire]

were on whatever dreams rant of the day is

[arctic lotus]

so yes, this is the exact type of person i am. i usually never buy on impulse, but i decided to because they are on clearance for $5. they are just shitty onn speakers

[lusty spire]

Why buy them then

[arctic lotus]

it's cheap. and i can hang one in my shower. and then i can keep one in my purse

and my laptop speakers are broken

[lusty spire]

Why not buy a better speaker

Why not get a new laptop

[arctic lotus]

the thread after the pc will be for the laptop

[topaz solstice]

that will be much easier

[crimson niche]

We changing to a laptop now...

[topaz solstice]

not yet

[unreal zenith]

she hasnt decided on anything though

it’s been weeks…

[hollow orchid]

yea has there been anything accomplished

[unreal zenith]

In the first few days she decided what cpu and 4090

that’s it rn

I don’t even know if she chose the 4090 model yet

[gentle elm]

Prob gonna be strix

[hollow orchid]

💀

[runic bloom]

It's the liquid suprim x

[topaz solstice]

one that gets recommended to use a 850w psu with

on corsair website

[sturdy anchor]

Dream has picked:
cpu 7950x3d
gpu rtx 4090 suprim liquid x
ram ddr5 5600 cl28
mb x670e
cpu cooler aio
boot drive 118gb p1600x
games drive 4tb t700 heatsink
bulk drive 4tb t700 heatsink
case -
psu -

[steel sapphire]

more like since late july

again, this thread is a joke

[desert mist]

Fairly certain the Suprim liquid X has a more aggressive power limit in the bios tho so keep the plug all chill. It’s Defo below 500w JayzTwoCentz made a video on it

[topaz solstice]

mobo is in limbo, cooler is in limbo, ram is in limbo

only ones that are definite, are the 7950x3d and 4090

[hazy hedge]

People take time unlike me i just buy right away

[topaz solstice]

almost 2 months

[lusty spire]

2 parts 2 months

Wowie

Progress

[topaz solstice]

shut it

[prisma spindle]

he aint wrong

this post is a joke. we been speaking about her for two months and she still haven't bought any of her parets

parts

[pale tulip]

i mean why would you buy before you finish the build

buy all at once lmao

[prisma spindle]

but it shouldn't take two whole months to figure out what parts you want

[pale tulip]

yeah

[prisma spindle]

it only taken me like 3 days to figure shit out come here for support

[pale tulip]

but still, buy all at once

[prisma spindle]

THAT WHY I DID

[pale tulip]

i frankly dont care

[prisma spindle]

i bought most of my stuff from amazon and like three stuff from scan

sorry for caps

[lusty tiger]

Good, she shouldn’t. Wait until everything’s chosen to buy

[prisma spindle]

i get that. but they havent been any progress for two months. we just been going around in circles

[lusty tiger]

And no, it’s not a joke

[lusty tiger]

There has. CPU, gpu, storage

And probably ram too

[prisma spindle]

the cpu and gpu was already made when his post was created.

[lusty tiger]

Kinda

There was a bit of a debate between intel and amd

[prisma spindle]

it was the title of her old post before it got shut down

[lusty tiger]

And, as far as I know, it’s still AMD

[prisma spindle]

Yea r9 something with rtx 4090

[lusty tiger]

7950x3d

I agree with you that it shouldn’t take 2 months for this, but she wants to know everything, and there’s nothing we can do about that

[prisma spindle]

yea. also google is her friend so is youtube. i have no problems coming on discord and asking for help. but you are taking everyone on journey with you and pissing them off

[gentle elm]

Yeah 2 months to know everything sure you do you but 2 months of spending peoples time when you will just change ur mind is annoying

[prisma spindle]

YEP

[hollow orchid]

god damn 2 months?

[steel sapphire]

its been way more then 2 months

first thread started in late july i believe

[gentle elm]

Yeah since early August

Oh wait yeah late July sounds right

[steel sapphire]

its ridiculous

[hollow orchid]

damn

explanation should have been minimized and videos could be given

[steel sapphire]

and the mods are just encouraging it

[hollow orchid]

youtube and google exist

[steel sapphire]

thats the thing

it is

[prisma spindle]

the mods shut down the first post. then she or he made a second one

[steel sapphire]

but she keeps digging for degree level answers on unimportant things

[hollow orchid]

ye

like look it up

if you don’t understand even when looking it up and such then ask

[prisma spindle]

i try to help her or him but they wouldn't listening so i gave up and just watch and see whats happens from time to time

[steel sapphire]

then she just disagrees with the answers shes given

[steel sapphire]

thats what i do

[hollow orchid]

i’ve only said a little bit of things here

[gentle elm]

That’s the real annoying part

[hollow orchid]

like when they thought they should get 4 sticks of ram

[prisma spindle]

mods shut down the first one no

[prisma spindle]

for what reason

[gentle elm]

At one point she thought 3 sticks also

[prisma spindle]

huh

why

for what reason

[gentle elm]

Cus if 2 is fast and 4 has most capacity “why not do in between” she said

[prisma spindle]

Lol

[steel sapphire]

they only shut it down bc it got off topic

[prisma spindle]

i have no words

[gentle elm]

No you want 2 sticks no matter what

Unless you need 128*

[steel sapphire]

the thread itself wasnt what they had issue with

[prisma spindle]

32GB IS the sweet spot. it cheap now. it not crazy expense

[gentle elm]

Yeah

[gentle elm]

Fr I got vengence sl rgb what ever whatever 3600 32 gigs and it’s amazing

[steel sapphire]

ppl were just shitposting since this thread is a shitpost

[prisma spindle]

i got my ddr4 ram 32gb 3200mhz for 70 pounds i think

let me check

[hollow orchid]

4 sticks is not really necessary

in some situations

[gentle elm]

Yeah I was about to say that’s what this whole thread is and if someone who was helping her says one thing she dosent completely agree with she blocks them almost everyone here is blocked lmao or has been blocked

[gentle elm]

Yeah only situation is for a work staition where you need alot

[steel sapphire]

yeah i accidentally unreacted to the thread and cant re react

[prisma spindle]

that when i can understand

[steel sapphire]

or star citizen

[prisma spindle]

i was thinking to upgrade to 64gb of ram but is it worth it

[gentle elm]

LMFAOOOOO

[gentle elm]

No if just gaming there is literally not a single frame you will gain

[prisma spindle]

i do other stuff. but i think 32gb should be okay

[gentle elm]

What else?

Some 3d rendering and modeling softwares can benefit from more ram

[prisma spindle]

light coding, i want to get into cad when i have more time and video editing when i have more time

[gentle elm]

Or Star citizen 🤓

[gentle elm]

Eh I’d get 32 then if I need to get another 32

You should be good with 32

Now if you get very heavy into cad get more

[prisma spindle]

i should be

[steel sapphire]

tbf star citizen is a really frickin cool game but the scope is way too big

[prisma spindle]

let see

[gentle elm]

Honestly Starfield is better

I absolutely love Starfield I have like 40 hours on steam and prob 15 on Xbox already

[steel sapphire]

just wish starfield was less loading screens

[gentle elm]

Yeah

[steel sapphire]

and more actual game

bc they totally could

especially with elevators

[gentle elm]

Okay we should get back on topic of helping dream before mods get angry

[prisma spindle]

i bought starfield and this is how long i play it for

[steel sapphire]

alr imma dip then lmao

[gentle elm]

Lmao

Okay so back to dream

[gentle elm]

Okay so we do have storage tho cool

I thought we didn’t finish storage

[topaz solstice]

it could change

[gentle elm]

Yes I know but for now it’s decided

[desert mist]

130 here

[gentle elm]

Dannnnng

[lucid ledge]

Good question has been more than one month

[lucid ledge]

How is C# learning going?

[lusty spire]

Not sure if I should continue tbh

It was for unity

but recent circumstances

make me question that

[lucid ledge]

Yeah i can understand

Anyways unreal still there

[lusty spire]

I dont like epicgames

there launcher sucks

[lucid ledge]

Lmao, godot?

[lusty spire]

maybe

[lucid ledge]

With c# ?

[lusty spire]

could work

[lucid ledge]

Alright, how far are you on c# yet?

Just curious

[lusty spire]

havent touched it in a bit, last time it was good enough to make simple games

Right now dieing in javscript

[lucid ledge]

I see ui designing or mostly frameworks?

[lusty spire]

Neither, making a chrome extension

[lucid ledge]

Isnt c++ better for that?

I might be wrong :/

[lusty spire]

not really

c++ requires more work than javascript

[lucid ledge]

I see

[lucid ledge]

For sure xD

What about rust?

How far are you on it?

[lusty spire]

havent touched it in a bit either

so not that much

[lucid ledge]

Alright, keep working harder :>, that hardwork will pay soon or later somehow

Cya

[lusty spire]

Wow 210 contributions geez

Cya

[arctic lotus]

well tbh i dont want to know everything. just whatever i think is enough to make an intelligent purchase. we just disagree on that so i started saying i want to learn.

rn in just working on things myself. i really have learned plenty. i dont need much more from the thread rn but that will change when i pick some parts. ive been busy cause i went out to a halloween thing but ill be back on the grind tonight.

ive been told that the rabbit hole for this is large. and it was and i did it mostly. still am. a lot of people stop earlier than me. thats fine.

[lusty tiger]

because its not worth it

[arctic lotus]

so why do people care so much about the number of connectors on their psu

pcpp seems to list the quantity. but ive literally have heard people say they want to upgrade to a particular psu mentioning that it has 2 of some connector instead of 1

[strange cairn]

Multi GPU setup?

[arctic lotus]

oh okay

[strange cairn]

ppl still do that for folding@home calculations

[arctic lotus]

any other ones

[strange cairn]

Not very common anymore tho

And as a spare in case one of them fails but it’s an important power connector like motherboard connector

[arctic lotus]

how do you mean

heres an example i learned a couple already tho

ik sata is for ssd but why have 7 of them

[lusty tiger]

because theres 2 cables, 1 with 4 and 1 with 3

[arctic lotus]

oh i guess i keep forgetting about how the cable splits

so 1 cable splits into 4 and another 3?

why so many

isnt there only like 4 to 6 sata on a mobo

[steel sapphire]

been since late july

[desert mist]

some have more

[lusty tiger]

sata devices use like 3W, and theyre cheap, so manufacturers are like "why not"

[lusty tiger]

you can add more, and fan hubs also use sata

[arctic lotus]

oh yeah

so does 1 sata use 1 connector?

[lusty tiger]

1 sata device?

yes

[steel sapphire]

yes

does one sata device use one connector 💀

[lucid ledge]

Yea

I wonder if they remember all those answered question

[steel sapphire]

i would bet serious money against it

like

michael setup level of money

[lusty tiger]

theyre all archived here. just takes a month to reread them all

[arctic lotus]

i have this person blocked. just leave

[steel sapphire]

no

[lusty tiger]

dream, do you have anything else selected? PSU? Is your ram chosen?

[lucid ledge]

Oh will be good to gather all that data

[arctic lotus]

so 1 sata ssd uses 1 cable? does it plug directly into the ssd

[lusty tiger]

this plugs into the ssd

[steel sapphire]

with ur budget why are you even considering sata drives

[lusty tiger]

as well as the hdd, water pump (sometimes), optical drive, fan hub, etc

[lucid ledge]

Are you planning your pc? o.o

[steel sapphire]

as if

[lusty tiger]

if youre not going to help, dont message here. refer to the pinned message

[desert mist]

some fan hubs use sata power and also some pumps also

[steel sapphire]

its not like im hurting, she has me blocked anyways

[lucid ledge]

I cant also ask question ? I am just curious

[steel sapphire]

nope lmao

only @lusty tiger and @arctic lotus are allowed to talk

[lusty tiger]

just dont have random ass conversations, complain about it taking so long, or the length of the thread(s)

[lusty tiger]

thats not what i said

I am tired of trolls and people only here to be annoying. If you don't like whats happening, leave

[steel sapphire]

oh ur tired of trolls? im tired of her too

[lusty tiger]

and your proof for her being a troll is?

[lucid ledge]

But i got a curious question,
Is the owner of the thread trolling tho?

[steel sapphire]

yes

[steel sapphire]

taking as much time as humanly possible to make simple choices

[lucid ledge]

Ah ok, anyways good day gentlemans

[steel sapphire]

and asking degree level questions when all she needs is a reccomendation

[lusty tiger]

ok? that doesn't mean it's a troll

im serious. leave, if you're not going to help

[steel sapphire]

ill stick around for shits and giggles

[lusty tiger]

don't message and it'll be fine

[steel sapphire]

im allowed to message got it

[lusty tiger]

no, people that are actually going to help can message. people who just want to troll or shitpost can shut up