💟 i am still building my first pc 💟 part ii

[trail kayak]

i would much rather have bad advice from people who are unknown to be or who are good.

[pastel flax]

The only one aggressive lately has been you :l

[noble maple]

yep

[trail kayak]

but anyway, yeah. im going back to storage

[noble maple]

youve caused most of the aggresion

[pastel flax]

Bread

Only thing I have to say rn is

🍞

[noble maple]

bran

[tawdry ferry]

preferably a ssd being used as the cache in truenas dude

no it's not

[pastel flax]

I mean it is if your running Linux or something

[median quail]

Yeah probably

[tawdry ferry]

tinylinux sure, but a more modern one, you'd want 128gb drive at lease

[median quail]

What in the fuck?

[pastel flax]

yeah fair

[tawdry ferry]

it's more about the extra packages you'd add in after

[pastel flax]

Yeah i wasent accounting for that

[median quail]

My pc advice?

[pastel flax]

no she is refusing to say whos meaning its made up

[median quail]

I literally spent hours as a 1 on 1 with her, answering (iirc, every) question she had

[pastel flax]

fr

ima laugh if she chooses to get a celeron instead

[median quail]

I was up until 1am (which I don’t normally stay up that late) one night answering questions about power supplies

[pastel flax]

and now shes telling you to leave and not come back....................

🍞

[median quail]

While consistently pointing out a bequiet (I think dark rock 13) 1000W titanium psu. A tier on tier list and has a native 4090 plug

[pale cove]

creeper you and rauko helped the most out of anyone probably

[pastel flax]

yeah

ive helped a little but mainly creaper

[median quail]

Ty :D (and ty medic for mentioning that too)

[tawdry ferry]

tbf i've only double down on what some others have said

[median quail]

Or offer corrections

I can’t believe she told me to not come back

:(

[tawdry ferry]

barely in the correctins deparmtent tbf

but yeah

[pale cove]

It’s probably better so you can spend time helping others too lol

[median quail]

Nah there were quite a few. And you contributed a lot for the van aspect

But anyway, I gtg, see y’all later

[tawdry ferry]

have fun dude

[trail kayak]

honestly yeah. thats the part that hurts the most.

[noble maple]

tf?

[pastel flax]

https://tenor.com/view/you-could-say-thank-you-donald-winthrop-the-oval-youre-ungrateful-at-least-say-thanks-gif-23769731

[pale cove]

I dont think anyone else is going to do 1 on 1 lol

[trail kayak]

plenty do

but that's not what im talking about

[pastel flax]

look he spent him hard earned TIME to help you and he gave you amazing advice and how do you thank him? telling him to beat it and how he hurt you like what?

[trail kayak]

honestly, im glad to have stolen the light out of his eyes then 🧿

[pastel flax]

@median quail

[noble maple]

what the fuck

[pastel flax]

do we tag mods again?

[noble maple]

no idea

[pale cove]

we could, but she would just make a new thread

[pastel flax]

yes but she wont cus she thinks we are all evil

[trail kayak]

nothing is going to happen to this thread, but no i would cause i obviously still have a pc to build

[median quail]

You just need to shut the fuck up. You’re not making good choices right now. You’re making enemies out of so many that were willing to help you.

[pastel flax]

fr

[noble maple]

i dont think anyone wants to help you anymore

[trail kayak]

but i dont want your help, even if it would benefit me. it's because of who you are. not your advice.

it's in your nature.

[noble maple]

what?

[median quail]

And what you think is a good choice may not be one. You’re here asking for help, so don’t tell us we’re wrong

[median quail]

What the fuck did I do to make you say this

[trail kayak]

im not gonna say here.

[pastel flax]

when you have 10 + pc vetrens telling you the same thing id listen

[trail kayak]

it will blow the chat up, and i honestly have been wanting to change the subject back

[noble maple]

the chat already blew up

[median quail]

Dm then, idc. But I want to know why

[trail kayak]

way more

[noble maple]

and the subject is probably not going to go back

[noble maple]

too bad

[pastel flax]

<@&750150305383186585> please help and sorry for second ping

[noble maple]

third technically

[trail kayak]

i probably will, when i have the emotional energy to do so

[tulip pelican]

Did she really suggest using ram for a vm

[pastel flax]

wait what?

[noble maple]

me

remember

[pastel flax]

oh yeah i shouldnt ahve pinged them then

[pale cove]

this isnt a drama show this is a pc build…

[noble maple]

yep

[tulip pelican]

Nothing is being built lol

[tawdry ferry]

for a ram drive that would lead to instabilities/corruptions in the end

[median quail]

The reason everyone is blowing up rn is because everyone feels the same, and just hasn’t mentioned it. Since we’re on the topic, everyone’s voicing their feelings

[tulip pelican]

I know lol

It’s a stupid idea

Really stupid

[trail kayak]

i dont want anyone in here, who has that "opinion." But no one has outed themself yet so, it's out of my power.

[noble maple]

ok

[trail kayak]

no one else i should say

[median quail]

Basically everyone here wants you to make the best choices, but you’re outright refusing to….

[noble maple]

exactly

[trail kayak]

i just want an overkill performance pc lmao

[tulip pelican]

Buy top of the line

[median quail]

Optane, bad idea; RAM disk, bad idea

[trail kayak]

not a but we are worried because you are a new builder and also a girl pc

[noble maple]

we are trying to stop you from making idiotic decisions

[tawdry ferry]

which would have to be downgraded in several ways for use in a van

[noble maple]

who is?

im a new builder

dont thumbs down me

[tulip pelican]

True to even keep it cool in the van an AC unit would have to run 24/7

[median quail]

Use one of the many builds linked by the pc veterans here

[noble maple]

ive been trying to help to the best of my ability

[trail kayak]

no van remember.

[median quail]

Who’s a new builder?

[trail kayak]

me

[median quail]

Did you scrap the van life idea?

[trail kayak]

yep

[noble maple]

if your a new builder whyd you thumbs down me saying im a new builder?

thats like saying someone is stupid when theyre smarter than you

[tulip pelican]

All I’m saying dream is it’s not that deep. No matter how much time you spend building and buying the best stuff. In 5 years it’ll be a outdated inferior PC

[trail kayak]

i didnt say you were stupid.

[tawdry ferry]

couldn't care less about that tbh, would give advice still

[median quail]

futureproofing is dead

[noble maple]

its called an analogy

"thats like"

[trail kayak]

oh okay. i understand

[tawdry ferry]

technically oudated the second it's left the factory and on sale

[tulip pelican]

Future proofing has never been a viable way to build a PC granted using a top of the line gpu and cpu it will last much longer at 1440p and 1080p / intensive workloads. But a 4K rig today will be a 1440p rig in 5 years at best

[noble maple]

yep

[median quail]

There’s nothing wrong with being a new builder. That’s why you’re here, to ask for advice to make the best choices. It’s because you’re not listening to our advice that everyone’s fed up with trying to talk you out of bad decisions

[trail kayak]

its cause the advice is google it. and so i did and found out a lot of stuff is just bad advice lmao

[tulip pelican]

Well I mean. She did buy 20 of 1 product to try and get a certain type of screen lol

[trail kayak]

yes i did

[tulip pelican]

Coulda just taken it to a shop and ordered a aftermarket display to be installed lol

[trail kayak]

yeah well i didnt know that was a possibility.

still doubt its possible since its nintendo

[tulip pelican]

I installed a Oled screen on mine

[trail kayak]

on your 3ds?

[median quail]

Because most of your questions are googleable. The main purpose of this forum is for someone to ask for a component list, or post a component list for critique, not to have a course in pc component tech.

[tulip pelican]

Well my buddy did

No my switch

[trail kayak]

the switch has those now

[tulip pelican]

But I’ve heard of people changing displays on the ds and 3Ds as well

[trail kayak]

so thats different

[tulip pelican]

It’s an older switch

[trail kayak]

i dont want a course.

[tulip pelican]

Anyway. It’s not as serious as you’re making it out to be lol

[trail kayak]

you guys just assume so because i asked dumb questions at the start

[median quail]

You’re basically asking for one, with all of your questions

[median quail]

Ngl, you still are

[tulip pelican]

If you went to PC part picker and picked out the highest end and most expensive everything with the aesthetic you wanted it would still be outdated in 5 years and underperforming

[trail kayak]

which werent even dumb questions because i also googled them and lots of people were asking the same questions on reddit and quora

[tawdry ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M90C3BdTjIc

[tulip pelican]

I think the problem they were having is that you were asking questions that really had no relevance to building a PC lol

[trail kayak]

that's really cool, i never knew this was an option

[tawdry ferry]

people even mod the ds in a similar way

[trail kayak]

i wonder if oled is possible then

[tulip pelican]

Why even tbh. The games are still from the 90s lol so they’re not really gonna look much different

Maybe brighter

[tawdry ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENEpJJPQomg

[trail kayak]

brighter and its just fun

[tulip pelican]

I guess

[trail kayak]

with retro gaming and stuff like 3ds its about saying that you did it

[tulip pelican]

I guess so

But back to the build. Like I said, no matter how much you research the PC is gonna be outdated and underperforming in 5 years

[trail kayak]

being able to say that you modded your gba with an ips screen is like the story you have about your gamecube controller.

[pale cove]

dream listen to ditchin

he is right

[trail kayak]

okay, i understand. but we are still doing it my way

[tulip pelican]

So tbh just pick the highest end with the aesthetic you like. And in 3-4 years it’ll be a 1440p machine

https://tenor.com/view/wwhat-confused-math-calculating-gif-9221391

[trail kayak]

right now im comparing ssds.

[tulip pelican]

Bruh

[trail kayak]

last week i didnt even have access to my notes

[tulip pelican]

Well I tried. Ima just follow the post for the lolz

[timid lava]

so which SSD are we getting

[median quail]

What’s there to compare? You’re ssd will not be the bottleneck (especially gen 4)

I don’t think you understand — there’s no point in doing this. Literally none

Which is why, I beg you: don’t kill yourself trying to find the “best one”

[trail kayak]

where do you look to buy, if the links arent on pcpp

[noble maple]

ebay?

idfk

[median quail]

I generally stick to Amazon or Newegg, sometimes eBay

[trail kayak]

so newegg is good

[median quail]

Yes

[noble maple]

yeah newegg is like amazon

[median quail]

But specifically for pc parts, and has faster shipping than normal Amazon (in the us anyway)

[trail kayak]

so newegg is pc amazon basically

[pale cove]

Yes

[tulip pelican]

Within the last few years it’s had some shady practices but after being called out on social media (Several times) I think they’ve cleaned it up. I bought an AIO, case and gpu from them and had a decent experience

[trail kayak]

good to know

ram is faster than optane and so is dram tho

[tulip pelican]

But how are you gonna keep it online to store the data…

[pale cove]

dream stick with ram

[tulip pelican]

Ram clears cache when it loses power

[trail kayak]

so an OS off the ram could in theory be faster than an optane drive and cheaper in some cases. it's just a hassle to work around the volatile storage.

i already know the challenges that come from volatile vs non volatile

[tulip pelican]

How are you gonna keep it powered 24/7 lol

[noble maple]

why are we talking about using ram as storage?

[trail kayak]

there are still ways to mitigate saving specific settings if you really wanted to go that route.

[pale cove]

if your power goes out your screwed

[trail kayak]

you could leave it on all the time.

[tulip pelican]

If your PC cuts off the OS dies and everything stored on it

And when the power goes out?

[pale cove]

if a storm happens

[tulip pelican]

Or your UPS dies which ever

[noble maple]

exactly

[trail kayak]

yeah but that doesnt mean you lose the OS. you would just have a different "pc lifestyle" like you would have to redo the OS.

i havent looked into it fully but i might try it one day

[tulip pelican]

Bruh

[trail kayak]

im not saying im gonna skip storage and just do ram cause im that confident

[pale cove]

for now stick with the normal stuff

please

[tulip pelican]

You would lose all data on the OS

Without some sort of backup

[trail kayak]

yeah ik already

[tulip pelican]

Everything stored in ram would be lost as soon as it loses power

[trail kayak]

but for the people who do this, they like it for a reason

and are willing to have to redo the os everytime

[tulip pelican]

Probably cause they hate their life’s and wanna torment themselves with stupid ideas

[trail kayak]

obviously they dont rebuy the os

they probably another copy of the os in storage or on a flash drive

[pale cove]

dream why do you want to store stuff on your ram again?

[trail kayak]

what i mean is. it's really not an issue.

[tulip pelican]

You don’t rebuy the OS you just get a key and it locks to your hardware lol

[trail kayak]

ram as a boot drive only.

[tulip pelican]

At least I’m fairly certain it does

[trail kayak]

no point for anything else really

[noble maple]

no just no

[pale cove]

just put it on an ssd

[median quail]

Fuck no

[trail kayak]

im gonna start out that way

[tulip pelican]

Ram as a boot drive is stupid

Just gonna put that out there

[median quail]

When it inevitably fails, we told you

[trail kayak]

why

okay but what do you lose

[tulip pelican]

Cause it’s incredibly unreliable and really no gain over a highend Ssd

[trail kayak]

im new to pc building not using windows lmao

[median quail]

Still applies

[pale cove]

your not using windows?

[trail kayak]

im using windows

[noble maple]

then stop talking about ram as a boot drive

[trail kayak]

no lmao

[noble maple]

ok then

only a lunatic would do that

[tulip pelican]

Ram as a boot drive is very stupid. And you will have much more trouble then it’s worth I promise

[trail kayak]

well ig im a delulu ass bih

[noble maple]

we already know that

[median quail]

“You’re new to pc building”
So listen to us when we say optane is dumb, and RAM disk is dumb

[trail kayak]

also no.

i am strongly considering optane

[noble maple]

jesus christ

[median quail]

You’re an idiot if you do

[trail kayak]

but i kind of like the budget being lower now

[tulip pelican]

No…optane is dumb. RAM disk is stupid

[noble maple]

your like the one kid in a class that never listens to the teacher

[trail kayak]

so probably not a p5800x

[noble maple]

and then you wonder why you have an f

[trail kayak]

the the p5800x is probably the best ssd

[median quail]

*not an optane ssd

[trail kayak]

?

the p5800x is an optane drive

[median quail]

Yea

Don’t use one

[pale cove]

just use a 990 pro, best gen 4 ssd

[median quail]

Please

[noble maple]

fr

[trail kayak]

i am considering these

[median quail]

lil waste of money, imo, but less than optane

[pale cove]

It’s cheap rn

[noble maple]

why

[trail kayak]

i havent been giving a good enough reason not to go for optane

[median quail]

Maybe, I don’t know the choices

Price

[noble maple]

theyre expensive, and arent even that much better for the price

[median quail]

Overpriced, not new, slow

[noble maple]

exactly

[median quail]

Been said multiple times

[trail kayak]

the not new part. and the gen 3 is a bummer.

[pale cove]

intel is discounting optane

[median quail]

iirc, Already did

[trail kayak]

but i also can't take the not new part and the gen 3 part as a downside, since it has been stated several times in the past that gen 3 is perfectly fast enough.

[pale cove]

gen 3 will become old fast

go gen 4

and upgrade in the future

[median quail]

But getting a regular gen 3 drive is way better for price to performance

That’s why it’s a bad idea

[noble maple]

look

[trail kayak]

the thing is, you really cant count it as gen 3 ssd either cause it has 3dxpoint. it's really in it's own class. it's basically an slc ssd.

[tulip pelican]

Idk paying $75 for a 118gb drives seems like a pretty good reason not to invest into optane

[median quail]

Seriously, fuck optane

[trail kayak]

this has also already been well made aware. i knew this before even posting about it here.

[noble maple]

okay

then why do you want discontinued hardware?

soon to be*

[trail kayak]

but the discontinuation isnt a problem at all, because you literally just buy used or wherever you can get it. and it's not a problem at al.

[tulip pelican]

They’re discontinuing it cause it’s a overpriced product that consumers don’t use

[noble maple]

you want a top of the line pc

[pale cove]

its never going to get better

[trail kayak]

so we can rule out the gen 3 or the discontinuation issues as problems at all

[noble maple]

discontinued hardware doesnt scream "top of the line" does it?

[median quail]

The overpriced one should be enough to take it off the list of possible drives

[pale cove]

dream what is wrong with gen 4

[median quail]

We’ve told her it’s not worth the price, for gaming

[tulip pelican]

I can’t imagine spending $75 on 118gb of shortage lol

[timid lava]

3 is perfectly fine

[pale cove]

yes true

[noble maple]

exactly

[tulip pelican]

You can buy some crazy fast ssds for that. That are 2tb capacity

[median quail]

Exactly!!!

[noble maple]

YES

[trail kayak]

also we can rule out the overpricedness of it. they are all overpriced yeah. but it is top market, and it is slc ssd which isnt offered anywhere else. it's overpriced but you are paying for what it is

overpriced means nothing about affordability. if all optane drives were $3000. i would have just ignored it by now.

the problem is that it is not. there are several affordable options that all maintain the 3d xpoint and performance.

[final violet]

https://tenor.com/view/muzeke-gif-27066381

[timid lava]

so what are your options

[median quail]

Dream, please — fuck optane, get a regular ssd, gen 5 if you want idfc

[trail kayak]

so money wise i will not be listening to any more input for optane. or gen 3. or discontinuation problems.

[pale cove]

if you are so strongly attached to optane let’s move on, you clearly made your decision

[noble maple]

IT IS NOT TOP MARKET

[trail kayak]

the u.2 could be an issue i dont like

[timid lava]

its not helping

[tulip pelican]

If you’re not gonna listen to peoples advice why did you make 4 threads

[timid lava]

bro yall

stop

[noble maple]

nothing here is helping ngl

why did bro get muted

wtf

[final violet]

Idk

[trail kayak]

that's why i asked about u.2 so much

[noble maple]

unfair mute ngl

[trail kayak]

probably a misclick

[noble maple]

i dont think they misclick very often

and hed be unmuted by now

[trail kayak]

chat goes fast, and that happens

[tulip pelican]

You’d be surprised

[trail kayak]

maybe they hovered off chat

[noble maple]

maybe ig

[trail kayak]

mods are fast.

pie is pretty good tho

[pale cove]

what did he do

mods

[final violet]

Idk

[noble maple]

modsss

[final violet]

I want to know

[noble maple]

unmute him

yes

[tulip pelican]

😂😂

[noble maple]

?

[tulip pelican]

Bro deleted my message

[noble maple]

whatd you even say

[final violet]

Mod watching

[pale cove]

maybe pie said something in a different channel

[trail kayak]

but yeah it's hard to point to u.2 as a problem cause when i asked here. i got nothing. and when i googled it. everyone else online talked about how easy and possible it was.

all you do is plug in the adapter. then the mini sas cord then plug that into the u.2 ssd. and then mount the u.2 ssd into the 2.5 drive bay. easy

[tulip pelican]

The sticker

[noble maple]

maybe

ohhhh

[tulip pelican]

Someone deleted it

[final violet]

Mod watching here

[noble maple]

yep

[trail kayak]

the form factor is a forever issue tho. it wont be as small and compact as m.2

[noble maple]

mods unmute pie 😠

[noble maple]

you dont need u.2

m.2 gen 4 maybe 5 would be fine

[final violet]

Gen 5 is usless

[noble maple]

yeah

too hot

[trail kayak]

gen 5 allows higher capacity for same perf

[noble maple]

and expensive

[trail kayak]

the heat isnt an issue because it doesnt change perf and they come with their own heatsink

so its not an issue at all

[final violet]

I got gen 4 and they can go hot too tbh

[final violet]

I removed my heatsink on mine lmao my motherboard got it own heatsink for ssd m.2…

[tulip pelican]

Don’t they always lol

[median quail]

If you’re so set on optane, I guess you can get it. I’m tired of arguing about this. Research it yourself though

[final violet]

Ye…

[tulip pelican]

Honestly just let her pick what she wants it’s her build you can give her advice but eh

[final violet]

She don’t really lessening

[median quail]

Not researching optane for her tho

[final violet]

I got something for her…

https://google.com

^

[tulip pelican]

Exactly

Let her figure it out. We can only give advice to which products would be a wise choice

[trail kayak]

i already done with the research

im just comparing things

and it's honestly just hard to find more than one source that isnt garbage

passmark is a strong source but it only goes so far

[timid lava]

im alive

[final violet]

What had append

[timid lava]

if i say ill be banned again

so

lets just be happy im not muted

[final violet]

👀

Ye

[timid lava]

so what are your options

just so were aware

[final violet]

This will be

https://tenor.com/view/muzeke-gif-27066381

[trail kayak]

oh thats what you meant

i thought you meant options for why im against optane and could be convinced

i am making a list now

[timid lava]

nah

lmk

than we can just pick the best you want

[trail kayak]

okayy

oh wow its actually super affordable

and i work at walmart so this was odd to see

obviously out of stock but im sure i can find it off amazon or newegg or ebay

[timid lava]

so your going with that?

[undone sparrow]

Dream if you don’t want help

Then don’t ask for it

It’s doesn’t make any sense to buy a 118gb drive for speeds that aren’t needed

And if you want to add ram

Then why you asking for help

Seems like you know what your doing

But you don’t

If you want advice take it, if your just gonna enlighten us with your goofy endeavours of expiermenting on your first pc then don’t ask

This isn’t mw2

Your not adding attachments to your pc like ram on a gpu

It’s unorthodox and meanr for expiermental purposes

[timid lava]

Dude just leave it alone and help her

She’s not hurting anyone so leave her alone

[undone sparrow]

Am not doing anything wrong

This thread is meant for oc advice

[timid lava]

if you don’t wanna help that’s fine, but saying that honestly doesn’t change the fact the pc still needs to be built

[undone sparrow]

Pc

[timid lava]

It’s still not doing anything to advance tbis

[undone sparrow]

You for. Want it then leave it

[undone sparrow]

She hasn’t bought any parts

[timid lava]

So just leave it be

[timid lava]

I’m fully aware

I’ve been here sense she made the thread

Lol

[undone sparrow]

Then where is the pc

Exactly

[timid lava]

I’m not about to go over this

Like I said

[undone sparrow]

No pc is being built

[timid lava]

If you don’t want to help just leave

There’s no point

[undone sparrow]

Then it should be closed

To help ithers

That actually need this help

[timid lava]

idrc I have all the time in the world

gives me somenting to do

Like I said if your annoyed just leave

[timid lava]

I at least want to see this PC built

[undone sparrow]

Then go do it in dms

[trail kayak]

im sorry im taking so long but this is a work in progress

[timid lava]

I’ll pass
Leave the thread

[timid lava]

It’s fine

[undone sparrow]

Your glazing heavy

Hella bro

💀

[timid lava]

if you don’t care then leave?

Like

[undone sparrow]

Wanna see a pc build go to Michael’s thread

[timid lava]

Idk why u care so much

Ok go than

Bye

[undone sparrow]

Am saying you

[timid lava]

like

[undone sparrow]

Go

[timid lava]

your the one who doesn’t want to help…?

[undone sparrow]

Bro stop glazing this shit

This channel is not meant

[timid lava]

idk why you care so much

[undone sparrow]

For this shit

[timid lava]

Bro then leave…?

Like

[undone sparrow]

Idk why you defensive

[timid lava]

Your doing exactly what you said you wanted to happen

You care so much LOL

[undone sparrow]

Cuz it’s annoying seeing this thread every time

[timid lava]

if you don’t want to help just leave the thread it’s not hard

[undone sparrow]

And the bs it pulls up

[undone sparrow]

This isn’t called help tf

[timid lava]

Ok block it and unfollow it

Not hard

[undone sparrow]

Where is the help

[timid lava]

whatever dude idrc

you can do as you please

[undone sparrow]

There are 3 threads

[timid lava]

I’ve accepted the fact she does stuff very different and I’ll work with it

[undone sparrow]

The mods don’t even believe this thread

[timid lava]

This is your options?

[undone sparrow]

This isn’t doing stuff

This is called

Total trolling

[timid lava]

ok report it

Like

Please

I really don’t care

[undone sparrow]

I did 😂😂

[timid lava]

@ mods for all I care

I really don’t care

if your not gonna help just leave

[undone sparrow]

I don’t care either

[timid lava]

You must because your still here

[undone sparrow]

I joined the server to help

[undone sparrow]

Then why you here

[timid lava]

if you don’t want to help leave

[undone sparrow]

You clearly care

[undone sparrow]

YOUR NOT HELPING THO

[timid lava]

Because I want to help
I’ve made it clear like

100 times

[undone sparrow]

I love how dream is just not talking

And your glazing that

[trail kayak]

he is helping me tho

[undone sparrow]

Stop glazing educate yourself

[timid lava]

Lol

[undone sparrow]

In whatt this channel if for

[timid lava]

My guy just leave if you don’t give a shit

like

[undone sparrow]

My guy why you care if u keave

I can do whatever i want

[timid lava]

idk why your still here if you don’t care

[undone sparrow]

Am stating the obvious

[timid lava]

Your legit the one who said they don’t care.

[trail kayak]

i dont think ive really asked any "learning" questions today.

[timid lava]

like

[undone sparrow]

yes you did

You keep on talking about the optane drive

And we all said no

[trail kayak]

just been debating optane

[timid lava]

Who cares

[undone sparrow]

We alll have built pcs

[undone sparrow]

Brother everyone is cheesed at that except you

[timid lava]

You think I’m not

[trail kayak]

yeah but you guys are wrong. idk why you say no to optane when affordable options are out there.

[timid lava]

Like

[trail kayak]

and my budget is like the sky lmao

[timid lava]

<@&750150305383186585> at this point this is getting stupid and hella unproductive

[undone sparrow]

you not tryna listen to shit

[undone sparrow]

Okay good for you

So go buy 20 optane drives

For no reason and an expansion card

Bragging about your budget

Good for you why do you want help then

You can buy millions of optane drives

But you say if it was 3k you wouldn’t

So I guess your budget really isn’t the sky huh

Answer that for me

[undone sparrow]

Clearly you don’t

[trail kayak]

ive taken plenty of advice, but im not gonna accept that "optane is the worst ssd. dont buy it" when i already know that people have specifically agreed to conspire in this thread with chat history proof to literally feed me misinformation in order to lead me away from expensive options

for what reasons. i have no idea.

[undone sparrow]

Let me ask

[trail kayak]

i kind of have some guesses

[undone sparrow]

Why did you join or make this thread

[median quail]

I’m not feeding you misinformation

[undone sparrow]

Answer that for me

[undone sparrow]

Exactly

[timid lava]

It’s getting hella unproductive

[undone sparrow]

We have built pc we also researched

[trail kayak]

you arent exactyl

[timid lava]

like I get everyone is annoyed

[undone sparrow]

We also asked

[timid lava]

don’t get me wrong

[undone sparrow]

We all built a pc

[timid lava]

but sitting here and getting mad does nothing

Like

at all

[trail kayak]

yeah im not really nice. i was nice at first. so i get it with the annoyed thing. yknow, you guys come from a different world

[median quail]

I’m trying not to, anyway. If I do say something wrong, it’s not on purpose

[timid lava]

Honestly I’ve dealt with all the shit and I’m just getting used to how to is

Like

[undone sparrow]

We all built the pc

[timid lava]

Idec about it anymore

[trail kayak]

you never said anything in chat that was wrong.

[timid lava]

Ok dude nobody cares

[undone sparrow]

Bro what 💀

[timid lava]

If you don’t give a shit just leave cuz you obv dont

At this point your just being hella toxic for no reason

[undone sparrow]

Am not being toxic

[timid lava]

sure

[undone sparrow]

How am I being toxic

[undone sparrow]

Answer this for me

Plssssss

For advice and to ask questions

You ask them then you disagree and then you restate the topic

[trail kayak]

alr i will tell you

[undone sparrow]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[undone sparrow]

I guess you can say I care to some extent how all this attention is offered but no parts are bought and nothing has been reached

[median quail]

Cpu, gpu chosen

[undone sparrow]

Purchased?

[timid lava]

why would she when it’s not done

Like

Again

This is pointless

Very pointless

[final violet]

We waiting

[undone sparrow]

What 💀

Bro your becoming delusional

You buy it because you decided

That’s why

You buy it so after 40k messages

Your not a troll

And are legit

That’s why

[timid lava]

Ngl your really dick riding her

Like

She really must’ve pissed you off lol

[final violet]

Lmao

[undone sparrow]

Your glazing brother

Your doing 360s

You downbad bro

[median quail]

Guys stop arguing

[timid lava]

I’m not

This dude is a little kid lol

[undone sparrow]

Little kid

Hahah

[timid lava]

I’m not about to argue with kids lol

[median quail]

Everyone, stop arguing

[undone sparrow]

And how old would you be piecreater

🤣

[timid lava]

see

Lol

[undone sparrow]

How old is a little kid

[final violet]

Hmm when?

[timid lava]

this whole thing is hella unproductive

[undone sparrow]

On god

[timid lava]

Lol give her a minute

[trail kayak]

my main account is on my server. i have a lot of followers so i was asking them about my pc build, asking similar questions on my own server. they were getting mad because of how i am. but they know how i am. and i know how i am so it's okay. so i started watching ltt on youtube. found the server. joined the server.

then i read the rules. joined the tech chat. asked my questions. but everyone got so violently angry about the questions that i was personally asked by the mods and by floatplane members to make the thread inside build a pc instead of talking inside of tech chat which i really didnt want to.

so i made the thread. and it went better. but eventually the same people followed. the people include very obvious fake profiles and multi accounts. its hilarious because they get defensive too about it.

[final violet]

I dont like to wait lol

[undone sparrow]

Are you saying that people didn’t try to give you advice

[final violet]

More like on every little part to learn about them even if it usless

[undone sparrow]

But you wouldn’t take it or wouldn’t accept it

[undone sparrow]

Bro you just lost your cause there

💀💀💀

[undone sparrow]

Facts

Everything

The thread itself

[timid lava]

<@&750150305383186585> sorry for double tag but it’s getting hella toxic, very unproductive and this dude is basically trolling.

[undone sparrow]

That’s crazy

[final violet]

[undone sparrow]

You can’t be doing that

When you also been toxic

Sayinf am dick riding

And that am trolling

🤣

[final violet]

Lol

[undone sparrow]

You can report me to mods and all but you also said this is unproductive

Your words not mine

[final violet]

He said worst lol

[undone sparrow]

Btw it’s fine to ask questions

But when you get an answer and your start questioning

That gets people offended right

Idk if I came off as mad

but this channel is for you to hear advice

You dotn. Need to accept it

But questioning someone’s advice even tho you ask for it

Doesn’t make sense

[final violet]

👆👆👆👆

[undone sparrow]

If you had taken advice I can assure you the pc of your dreams would have been done

No pun intended

Lool

[final violet]

The pc is just a “dream”

Like her username

[undone sparrow]

Creeper has almost 10k messages

Basicallt a veteran

[median quail]

Let me be completely honest.

Many here are more than willing to answer your questions, myself included (and I can assure you I am not one of the trolls following you). It’s the type of questions that got us annoyed. If you could just….tone down the questions a bit, and maybe run them by google before posting here, it would be a lot better for all of us.
I hope this helps us sort this out. And, I hope this will hurry along the progress of this build (i really want you to build this, as it’s been a dream since 2013).

[trail kayak]

its not even like i never posted a pcpp link and asked to do it your way. it's cause when i do it your way. we get some weird shit, and then we get people who say this pc looks killer

[final violet]

Wait size 2013

[trail kayak]

after 3 days this is what i came up with

[undone sparrow]

Good stuff

Solid

Except the ram

Cooling idk don’t have amd

1200w shift psu should be nice and cable management

[median quail]

Rauko is an older veteran than me. I also didn’t do too much when I first joined

[median quail]

Yep

[undone sparrow]

I was tryna make a point loool

[final violet]

Wtf

💀

[undone sparrow]

Is rakou @final violet ?

[final violet]

?

[median quail]

She’s never made it this far before. I really want her to finish this time

[trail kayak]

it's useless to you, because you already know what you want and have what you want

i know what i need to know about storage.

and ram

[timid lava]

So which storage are you doing

[undone sparrow]

Just bite the bullet

[timid lava]

or do you have options at all

[trail kayak]

i just havent chosen a storage yet.

[undone sparrow]

Just flip a coin

[timid lava]

Have a list or something?

[undone sparrow]

Really

Or spin the wheel

Am being serious

[median quail]

How well do you like that case?

[undone sparrow]

I did it when I was Indecisive

[undone sparrow]

Am serious

Maybe you will be relieved it’s destiny

[trail kayak]

i chose the cheapest case back then. because someone told me to pick the cheapest case

[timid lava]

Do you have one in mind?

Or somewhat of an idea?

[undone sparrow]

Perfomance or aethetics

Perfomance got for an airflow from Corsair

Looks and perfomance

Lian li evo xl just came out

[final violet]

Cause i dont need to know how a usb work in small detail… i know how it work speed and all and different connector other thing is kanda is kanda usless

[trail kayak]

not really. the only case that sparked joy was that really popular itx case but it is sold out. i think its like the n200 or something. and i wanted the pink one

[final violet]

Ik

[median quail]

At your budget, a ≈$150 case is probably best

[timid lava]

Your aware of form factors yes?

You did say you wanted a ITX case?

iirc

[undone sparrow]

I like atx that’s just me

Chonky

[trail kayak]

i didnt do last detail. and im not confident you know about usb enough. especially when we use usb in our everyday lives

[loud berry]

Gruh

Why you need 128

[median quail]

And higher sales volume, and easier to work in

[undone sparrow]

And more variety

[timid lava]

eh my next case I may use ITX

I like the small form factor

for my server it will 100% be ITX

[final violet]

Lmao

[undone sparrow]

But it’s not the end of the world if you don’t know the exact speed different between usb 2.0 and 2.1

In our everyday lives it wont matter

[median quail]

Oh another thing, ddr5 8000 is so useless for am5. There’s no way it’ll hit it

[undone sparrow]

Making the argument irrelevant

[undone sparrow]

Facts

Check the mobo manual

[final violet]

It usless in general

[undone sparrow]

Should have the max supported

Then minus by 400mbz just to be on the safer side

[median quail]

6000 max I would go

[undone sparrow]

Or run stability tests

[undone sparrow]

Yeah

[loud berry]

Ddr58k is wild

[undone sparrow]

That was what I thought

[loud berry]

What do you need that for 💀💀

[undone sparrow]

6400 probably on the manual

But 6000 safe

[median quail]

That was before she knew much

[final violet]

All i got is ddr5 7200

[undone sparrow]

Wdym all I got that too

[loud berry]

Oh@no only 7200

[undone sparrow]

That shit is good bro

🤣

[loud berry]

How do I go to the top

[final violet]

Ik lol

[undone sparrow]

7200 is like porintless

[median quail]

If you have an iPhone, you can tap the top by the notch

[undone sparrow]

8000 is just for records

[final violet]

I am not on am5 i am on intel so

[grim orbit]

Is she still choosing motherboard

[undone sparrow]

6000mhz is more then enoigh

[loud berry]

Why she talking bout ohm ohms

[median quail]

Am5 won’t really go higher than 6000

[final violet]

^

[median quail]

One conversation at a time please

[loud berry]

Is 1200w good for 4090 and a high end ryzen cpu

[static nexus]

You could maybe get 6200 but even then.... 6000 CL30 is about as good as it gets for AM5

[undone sparrow]

Yes

[final violet]

Ye it fine

[undone sparrow]

No

[loud berry]

Good future proof?

[undone sparrow]

Nothing called future proof

But in the case of psu

You can keep it for 10 years

So I guess

Future proof

😂

[median quail]

In This thread (and the others before it) were used by dream to find out every detail about components

[final violet]

Ye was long

[median quail]

Psu is the only thing worth futureproofing

[loud berry]

Ight

Yuh

[undone sparrow]

And maybe MAYBE the fans?

Idk

[loud berry]

Y’all bumping utopia?

[median quail]

With seasonics prime lineup having 12 year warranties

[undone sparrow]

The rm1200x shift was a great push

Psu

[loud berry]

I legit got that one in my cart rn

1200w sea sonic sm

[median quail]

Good unit

[loud berry]

Are the fog ones any good

Rog

Other than being wildly overpriced

[final violet]

I got the msi meg ai1000p in my pc

[median quail]

But back on topic….where were we?

[loud berry]

😭

Answer my wuestion

[final violet]

There just overprice lol

[undone sparrow]

That’s all

🤣

[loud berry]

Oh

[undone sparrow]

Get you a Corsair on

Trust

[loud berry]

They look cool doe

I still won’t

I don’t have that kind of money

[undone sparrow]

Wdym

You got money for a 4090

You calling as f

Balling

[median quail]

Like that matters at all

[final violet]

Rog stuff are all the time overpriced

[loud berry]

Fax

Wattage number on psu 🤯

[median quail]

Bequiet dark rock pro 13 is the best for dream

A tier on psu list
titanium efficiency
native 4090 plug
1000W

[final violet]

^

[median quail]

I’m in love with it, that’s why I keep recommending it
Also because she doesn’t need to look anywhere else

[final violet]

Do you have it lol

[undone sparrow]

Bro I have. A 13700k and a 13900k

I want to return one

They both perform the same

[median quail]

No, it’s just the best on the market

[undone sparrow]

But I like “i9”

Idk what to do lmao

Deadass

[final violet]

Keep the i9

Then

Simple

[undone sparrow]

But I don’t need to

They perform the same

Bro 😭

I donr do rendering for 14 hours

Idk the difference

[final violet]

I would keep the i9 lol well i got the i9 enyway size me i do render lol i got it match with a 4090

[median quail]

If I did build this pc, I’d put that in it tho

[final violet]

I see

[median quail]

because it’s the best
Me sounding like a broken record lmao

[final violet]

📼

[median quail]

in the end of all this, Dream:

I hope you get this PC built, whatever it takes. I know it's been a dream of yours since 2013. we will finish this.
I want to help you in any way I can (just please run the questions by google first, to glean out as many as possible, to make all of our lives easier)
I apologize if some of the things i said were not very kind. i hope we can move past it, and speed up this build process.
If we can move on from these recent tirades, I wish only the best for you and your pc endeavors, and I hope i can continue to be a part of the choosing process. be sure to post your battlestation in #1019713714968088586 when you're finished building it :)
-C

YOOO!! discord has the option to "search with google" any text you highlight on desktop

[trail kayak]

this was back in july

[vivid mountain]

DDR5-8000 on AM5 will require, at minimum, a weekend of tuning and stresstesting to ensure stability

You will not get an EXPO kit at 8000 to work immediately

[tawdry ferry]

from this alone i can tell you straight away, the chosen aio is crap, you'll have issues trying to get the ram running at 8000 mhz, a b650 mobo would offer you better performance, the hdd itself is ok but you wouldn't need more than 18tb, psu is totally overkill and could be dropped to around 1200w, case wise, that's subjective but you could go for one a little more better tbh

[tawdry ferry]

because there isn't much needed to know for the average pc user, and general pc building unless you need a specific usb gen that does a specific speed

[tawdry ferry]

return the 13900k, you'd be doing yourself a favour tbh

[solemn walrus]

what?

what is blud yapping about

[timid lava]

They didn’t
And that is 100% not an alt

She’s been here with that account for months

[solemn walrus]

the opps never stop fr

[undone sparrow]

Oh ms know it all so you think you know all this

Okay so go buy it and stop asking

And then start suffering because you ha no expierence with testing ram

And go crash your sus te every time

Facts lmao

That don’t mean shi

👌😆

[undone sparrow]

That’s what I said

Based on all her crazy data compiling knwodlege

Can she add 1+1 and realize

We are all saying the same thing

So maybe just “listen”

Yeah Ik

[median quail]

You can have a maximum of 1 account in this discord server, which she has, so there’s no issue with that.

Why are you still here

[timid lava]

The amount of hate she gets is wild

like at this point she has dedicated haters that just shit on her for everything lol

Like I get everyone is annoyed, but it doesn’t change the fact the pc still needs to be built

[median quail]

Yeah

[timid lava]

Like at this point I’m used to how she operates

Idec

[median quail]

The instant pokey says some random bullshit, he’s getting reported

[timid lava]

if she wants to take 3 days to find a SSD sure

idc I’m down

But shitting on her is just being an asshole

[median quail]

Yeah, true

[onyx badger]

At how many messages was the old thread?

[solemn walrus]

a lot

[onyx badger]

why tho

[solemn walrus]

holy fuck stop talking in here though

[median quail]

Anyone that’s just here to ask why, or any shit like that will be reported

[timid lava]

^

Like if you don’t want to help, don’t help.

[median quail]

I’m literally done with trollers

She only has 1 lol

Inthis server

[timid lava]

legit lol

She’s never had 2

[median quail]

Obviously she doesn’t care about that or she would have told me again

[timid lava]

If you don’t wanna help then leave

like

It’s that simple

[median quail]

Now I ask you: why are you here

Yes I’m still tryna help because I want her to finish this build

[timid lava]

Same

Like

I’ve put in so much work idec

If we’re here another month and we make progress I’ll still do it

It’s not even much is it?

It’s like what 2-3 things left?

[median quail]

She almost has storage, needs to pick a case and psu. Also the specific ram (but that’s down to promos at the build time)

[solemn walrus]

like 4

[timid lava]

Ok so

Were more then halfway

[solemn walrus]

and motherboard

[timid lava]

Yeah I’ll see this through the end

[median quail]

Oh yeah

[timid lava]

idec

just start reporting people who are being assholes

because it really doesn’t help

[median quail]

Yeah

I’ve put way too much time into this to abandon it. We will see this through

[tulip pelican]

Ngl it would be hilarious if she just stopped responding

[median quail]

I would be quite angry

[median quail]

<@&750150305383186585>
Do something with this user. They are just here to troll, and aren’t contributing to the thread.

[trail kayak]

also, im getting a lot of comments about the 8000 ram and the aio and the case.

i need to make this clear, this is not my build. it was my original build when i didnt know anything and i just put things together.

it is because of those questions that i have gotten so far.

i posted it to show a before and after

but ill just post a before and after with pics again here

[median quail]

if you have the pcpartpicker links, send those instead. it'll be more useful for us.

[solemn walrus]

ngl that 4090 is the only nice thing

[trail kayak]

here is the before and after. im not posting links because these arent even real

[solemn walrus]

eww corsair aio

yknow what would be funny for you to do

[trail kayak]

july 24th vs september 14th

[solemn walrus]

get the hynix ic kit for $80 and tune it for shits and giggles

[solemn walrus]

weird ass monitor choice

[trail kayak]

wtf is hynix

[solemn walrus]

..a company

[timid lava]

Oh shit did he get banned @median quail

[solemn walrus]

who?

[timid lava]

Pokey

[solemn walrus]

maybe left?

[timid lava]

he @ mod on him

Nah

He def got banned

W that dude was an asshole

[timid lava]

What else do you need?

[median quail]

Wdym they aren’t real

[trail kayak]

only the cpu gpu ram are serious picks

mb i just threw a random one in

[solemn walrus]

parts are picked randomly

[trail kayak]

storage is p close

[median quail]

Oh

[solemn walrus]

tbf its a pretty good motherboard

[timid lava]

So which are we on

Storage?

[trail kayak]

case is random

[solemn walrus]

didnt you say a 990 pro is the same at the t700 but 2x as cheap

[trail kayak]

psu is random

[median quail]

If you really want the t700, whatever, but it is a waste of money

[trail kayak]

monitor is random

[timid lava]

do you know what PSU you want?

We can pick one if you want

Those really don’t matter

[trail kayak]

cooler is random

[solemn walrus]

ax1600i and call it a day

[timid lava]

exactly

It rlly doesn’t matter

[trail kayak]

probably shouldnt go out of order. i will be too overwhelmed

[timid lava]

Fair that’s fine

[median quail]

bequiet dark power 13

[trail kayak]

but all i was saying is that is how far i have come

[timid lava]

agreed

It’s ok tho

[trail kayak]

ill brb tho

[timid lava]

We can do it in the order you want

this thread has increased my patience by 10x

you have no idea

[median quail]

Same

[timid lava]

she ironically helped me as a person dealing with people

[solemn walrus]

i need my patience prepared for when ill be an uncle

[median quail]

So what’s next on the list?

[trail kayak]

oh also, the t700 im pretty sure just got marked down

so yeah now there is basically no logical reason to not go that

since it's just 4tb of 990 pro storage basically

i was saying $300 would make it more interesting as a pick

and now the t700 is $374

[solemn walrus]

just go with 990 pros

[trail kayak]

the $74 is what you pay now for the gen 5 halo pricing

[median quail]

So you’re buying the t700?

[trail kayak]

most likely

[timid lava]

So were doing that?

[median quail]

Great, add that to a pcpartpicker list.

But what about a boot drive

Or are you gonna use 1 4tb one

[trail kayak]

im not sure yet. but yeah most likely

you guys will know when its for sure

i always announce it but it gets lost in chat

[median quail]

I wanna finish storage, so let’s decide on that rn

[timid lava]

Agreed

1 thing at a time

[solemn walrus]

its pointless to talk about storage for so long since theyre like all the same

[trail kayak]

theres a lot of routes you can go

[median quail]

So just grab a 500gb 980pro or something

[solemn walrus]

500gb 980 pro for boot
4tb 990 pro for storage

[vivid mountain]

Why are we getting Samsung drives again?

[median quail]

Not my first choice but it’s good

[solemn walrus]

big pocket i think

[median quail]

Probably because they have a reputation for being super reliable

And “Samsung” seems like a reliable company

So dream, what’s the storage choice?

We are not moving on until it’s done.

[timid lava]

^^

I really don’t want to go back on anything

[median quail]

If it’s a t700, and an optane ssd, Idfc. Just choose something

[trail kayak]

well which would you go if you had all the money in the world

[median quail]

Probably a 4tb t700 and a 1tb 980 pro or something

[timid lava]

Agreed

4TB is plenty