Well first things first, you should open up your computer and get familiar with the components inside. Does it use standard power connectors? Is it a standard form factor?
#PSU upgrade Help
coral notch
Let's assume it has a standard sized ATX/PS2 power supply inside it, so that's what you would want to buy. If there isn't much space for cables inside, you may want to consider a fully modular or semi modular PSU.
Max watt support for PCs? Not a thing.
A setup rated for 250W will run off from even a 2000W PSU if you really wanted it to.
What you can't do however is buy a PSU that's rated lower than the power draw of your components.
That's pretty much the basics of it.
vernal ingot
Feel free to send a picture of the internals - it will help us help you
finite grotto
Well first things first, you should open up your computer and get familiar with ...
Hi, I'm very, very sorry for the late reply. It's actually not my PC; it's my friend's. He got an ATX power supply, but he can't find the 24-pin connector, and the default power supply is this thing. It's really weird.
the board is the hp8767
coral notch
Hi, I'm very, very sorry for the late reply. It's actually not my PC; it's my fr...
Yeah that's a non standard PSU, unfortunately HP and Dell are both notorious for making a lot of their stuff OEM.
Even the formfactor isn't a common one.
finite grotto
So, where can I find a 500-watt one? Because he bought the standard ATX PSU from Cooler Master, and he's going to return it
i reall wann take photos but im not at his house right now
finite grotto
Yeah, he's upgrading from a GTX 1660 to an RTX 3060.
I'm not sure but i think these are the PC specifications.
https://support.hp.com/za-en/document/c06673771
any ideas @coral notch
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It's honestly going to be quite difficult to do in this system
If the internals are anything like some of the teardown videos I've watched, it's going to be real nightmare
coral notch
That would work however...
I don't know if you'll be even able to mount the PSU inside the computer case
you would have to leave it outside with the sidepanel off
coral notch
It's not a standard ATX, I know that much
finite grotto
the size on one of the website says its 95mm x 73mm x 155mm
coral notch
Yeah so not even close to standard atx
finite grotto
i don't know im out of ideas
coral notch
Technically... You could still put a standard ATX psu inside that case, it has the space for it.
But you wouldn't be able to mount it properly.
The screw holes wouldn't line up at all basically. You'd either have to fabricate a mount for it or drill new holes into the case.
IDEALLY
frail narwhal
sort of looks like a server sized psu
coral notch
You would take the measurement of screwhole placement on that PSU
frail narwhal
but propably different still
coral notch
sort of looks like a server sized psu
Nope. Wrong dimensions.
frail narwhal
hence the 'sort of', yep
finite grotto
So this will work, but isn't a fire hazard.
will this small conncetor even handel this much power
coral notch
It literally only splits the 24-pin to supply correct voltages to where they're needed.
coral notch
will this small conncetor even handel this much power
It's only going to pull as much as it needs.
frail narwhal
a cheap atx case is like $40 though and then you can use any atx standard psu you want to
coral notch
a cheap atx case is like $40 though and then you can use any atx standard psu yo...
Won't work here
This specific system has a nonstandard motherboard with the front IO directly soldered onto the board.
frail narwhal
ooh that's fun..
frail narwhal
Do I have to?
coral notch
it's awful
finite grotto
it's awful
very
What if he returned the ATX one and got a Mini ITX one? It's going to fit, right?
coral notch
It's not that simple...
We need to know the exact placement of the screws
And since it's an HP system, the placement of those are also going to be nonstandard
You can't just shove any off the shelf part into an HP system
they were never designed to work like that
finite grotto
It's not that simple...
He can leave it on the ground; it's not on the top. I don't think he even has the screws for it.
coral notch
But why would you get a Mini ITX then? If the dimentions you mentioned earlier are correct, then a standard ATX/PS2 PSU will fit in the system anyway.
You just won't be able to securely mount it.
frail narwhal
they were never designed to work like that
what he means is, they were designed NOT to work like on HP's end
coral notch
HP systems are a nightmare to work with for this exact reason.
finite grotto
Wait, I will video call him and tell him to put the power, and we'll see if it fits or not.
coral notch
Assuming the dimensions are correct, it should fit
Tell him to check the rear as well, if we're lucky then maybe two mounting holes are going to line up.
finite grotto
Assuming the dimensions are correct, it should fit
its bigger
finite grotto
so mini ITX is the way to go
finite grotto
It's not going to work with a standard ATX/PS2
So where can i find this connector
coral notch
Ebay most likely
vernal ingot
You might be able to find a compatible power supply with higher wattage on eBay - maybe search around for the model number
coral notch
so mini ITX is the way to go
It won't fit either
vernal ingot
As others have mentioned it’s going to be a pain in the arse because it’s proprietary
finite grotto
It won't fit either
why isn't smaller
finite grotto
You might be able to find a compatible power supply with higher wattage on eBay ...
hmmmmm
coral notch
Because the current dimension of the PSU as you mentioned earlier
Assuming it is in fact 95 x 73 x 155mm, the SFX is 125 x 63.5 x 100 mm
That's why you would need to take measurements and actually double check them
finite grotto
isn't a mini ITX a power type name?
coral notch
When working with an OEM system like this, you can't just assume some other standard is going to work when it's a non standard formfactor
coral notch
isn't a mini ITX a power type name?
No... That would be SFX
finite grotto
No... That would be SFX
ohhh sorry I was confused from this and that
finite grotto
No... That would be SFX
okay I think now I understand a SFX power supply and a converter and it will work right
coral notch
Wha... No!
Did you completely ignore the dimensions I mentioned???
It's a whole 3cm too wide to fit inside that case
finite grotto
so there is no type that will fit?
finite grotto
Okay let me repeat myself.
I UNDER STAND
wait
he doesn't really need to screw the screws he can just leave it in and forget about it
coral notch
So it has nonstandard dimensions. You would have to choose a PSU with similar dimensions.
As mentioned earlier, HP may have made another PSU in same dimentions but higher wattage.
finite grotto
where i cant find any
coral notch
This has the exact same dimensions, the exact same connectors and it's 400W
There are more of these on Amazon, it's very much possible to find one with even a higher wattage
finite grotto
is 400w enough
coral notch
It should be yeah
Obviously check the wattage of the current PSU
If it's already a 400W model, then there's no point in replacing it
finite grotto
vernal ingot
Just want to say this is not a long term solution and it might be worth considering putting together a real computer with standard components if and when the budget allows. You’re going to hit a hard wall where you simply cannot do anything else with the hardware you’ve got and it’ll be janky at best
These computers are designed to ship with a couple standard configs and that’s it
When you start adding weird shit, who knows what might happen
coral notch
I have to agree, HP systems are generally a real nightmare to work with.