13900k 4090 build

[zealous rose]

The goal is for 1440p gaming with as much fps as I can get. Mostly apex though, also are there any conflict on parts? Thanks in advance

[glossy falcon]

for 1440p just grab a 7900xtx imo

[vague raptor]

And get the 13900k instead of the kf

[glossy falcon]

or a 7800x3d

[vague raptor]

Or get the 7800x3d because it’s better for gaming

[vague raptor]

Yes

Nothing can beat the vcache

[glossy falcon]

you really dont lose much performance

[tiny glade]

you'll get almost the same fps

[glossy falcon]

+its apex so

[tiny glade]

4090 gets bottlenecked by the cpu in those tests at 1440p

and that's in AAA games

think how apex is gonna do

[glossy falcon]

poof

[tiny glade]

[vague raptor]

7800x3D and 7900xtx

[zealous rose]

seems like my 3090ti is choking at 1440p right now. it's using 70-99%

that's why i'm upgrading

[vague raptor]

Dawg it should be at 100%. That’s how you know it’s the bottleneck. You want the gpu to be the bottleneck

[zealous rose]

i have to get a new PC anyhow the gpu is dodgy

[vague raptor]

Regardless, the 7900xtx will be an upgrade. And At 1440p, the cpu matters more, that’s why we recommend the 7800x3D

[zealous rose]

this happens too much

[vague raptor]

Oh yeah, that’s bad

[zealous rose]

no idea what it is too could be vram or something

also this is a no budget build, i even with with a z690 apex to OC and the board shat itself

1.35v at 5ghz

the cpu is also just memeing itself

[vague raptor]

Wdym

[zealous rose]

i can't even get to 5.1 ghz stable

this 12900k

[vague raptor]

All core or single core

[zealous rose]

lemme try it in a bit

i have been running stock for a while

is there anyway to make this thing spin faster

[vague raptor]

All core at 5.1 is insane

[vague raptor]

That’s a blower fan 3090??

[zealous rose]

no it's asus strix LC 3090 ti

spent like 6-7 grand on this thing just for it to meme itself to death

i'm actually not happy with this build, since i asked a shop to build it for me as i work too much to have any free time to build it myself

@vague raptor so i should switch to the 7800x3d right?

[vague raptor]

Yes

[vague raptor]

Dang, how? During the crypto boom?

[zealous rose]

no i got it for gaming only

i feel like at this point i'm just going to buy a pre build

as long as it works i don't care anymore

[vague raptor]

No no no. That’s a waste of money

[zealous rose]

but if it works

but anyways i'm switching to AMD this time for the first time in 15 years

[tiny glade]

nvidia when people don't pay $1600 for a metal brick

[vague raptor]

But they do lol

[tiny glade]

nvidia when people pay $1600 for a flagship card that used to sell for $700 🤑

[swift fjord]

So if I understand well 13900k cpu will not bottleneck with 4th gen gpus but does with 3rd gen? I was pretty shocked seeing that usage when u spent that much. Makes me wonder if the build I'm doing is correct.

[glossy falcon]

wat

99% is intended

[swift fjord]

I do not think so. My 4080 gpu is getting bottlenecked by i9 13900k and gpu will be 100% utilization where as i9 13900k will never reach it's utilization peak

That is not okay

[glossy falcon]

its.. fine

[swift fjord]

I have to refund i9 13900k and get i7 13700k

3% diff in gaming

Not ok

[glossy falcon]

thats fair, but its not a bottleneck..

[swift fjord]

Why would I bottleneck my gpu lol

[glossy falcon]

you should refund it cause its a dumb financial decision

[swift fjord]

That too

[glossy falcon]

i dont think youre quite aware of how bottlenecks work

[swift fjord]

250$ more for me

Mate my friend did me a graph

[glossy falcon]

if the gpu reaches 100% its fine

you cannot possibly say "13900k is bottlenecking, lemme downgrade to 13700k"

[swift fjord]

How can that be fine? It's thermals are gonna go through roof because 100% utilization.

Well that's exactly what I'm doing

[glossy falcon]

yes, cause its being used

[swift fjord]

Choosing compatible parts

[glossy falcon]

if it wasnt 100% that would be a "bottleneck"

[swift fjord]

Rly? Wtf

[glossy falcon]

yes??

you really dont know wtf a bottleneck is

[swift fjord]

Isn't the same thing as this post person described?

seems like my 3090ti is choking at 1440p right now. it's using 70-99%

I will get same issue

I can't believe choking a gpu is normal

[vague raptor]

If your gpu wasn’t bottlenecked, and your cpu wasn’t bottlenecked, you’d get infinite performances

Because there would be nothing holding it back

[swift fjord]

not sure if u are playing dumb with me or u just sarcastic rn

im just trying to understand

so many sites say diff things

its fucking dumb

[vague raptor]

You want your gpu to be the bottleneck

[vague raptor]

Are you using a bottleneck calculator? Those are a lie

[swift fjord]

yeah i used at least 5 diff sites bottleneck calculator

some told me i have 12% some 15%

[vague raptor]

Yeah those are all a lie

[swift fjord]

lol....idk who to trust where to turn to good information

but i just dont like the idea of gpu being used 100%

its like gonna be thermal throttling

[vague raptor]

No it’s not lol

[swift fjord]

u saw Mother right? she was getting black screens

while gaming

[vague raptor]

My gpu goes to 100% all the time, and it sits at like 65c

[vague raptor]

Yeah?

[swift fjord]

isnt gonna be the same for me ?

[vague raptor]

Faulty gpu

[vague raptor]

No

[swift fjord]

oh

omg im so lost idk what to do 😦

although downgrading to i7 13700k idk how ideal that is i mean 3% diff in gaming but like i just wanted to have top cpu

but i regain 250$ thats true

[vague raptor]

Watch this video, and come back with any questions you still have
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_6zGlk8y1Ks&pp=ygURbHR0IGJvdHRsZW5lY2tpbmc%3D

[swift fjord]

thank u so much

ok

[vague raptor]

Make sure you ping me, or I won’t see it for a while

[swift fjord]

Ok so the bottom line of that video is that it said it depends

Can I find info on the most recent graphs for fps using i9 13900k and 4080 vs i7 13700k and 4080 for PUBG only? thank u so much.

[glossy falcon]

its not that big of a difference

just get your money back

and buy a kebab

[swift fjord]

oh u right, cause i saw in video most cpu differences almost no performance gain

[vague raptor]

I7 13900k?

[swift fjord]

its mostly the gpu that does the job

ye

wait i7 13700k

wtf am i saying xD

[vague raptor]

Yeah lol

[swift fjord]

so bottom line guys, i go for i7 13700k yeah?

just for peace of mind

[vague raptor]

For peace of mind for what

[swift fjord]

not having 100% gpu utilisation

[vague raptor]

Bruh

You want your gpu 100% utilized

[glossy falcon]

if you want for it to get less hot just undervolt it ffs

[vague raptor]

Unless your suite of games includes Minecraft or something. Then it might not be 100% utilized

[swift fjord]

nah its gonna be mostly PUBG + rocket league

i dont play many games

[vague raptor]

Gpus are designed to be at 100% utilization for hours

[swift fjord]

but i heard pubg insanely bad optimised

[glossy falcon]

days even

[swift fjord]

playing at ultra no diff than playing at medium

[vague raptor]

What res, and fps

[swift fjord]

1440p

fps idk mby 250+

depends i need to see a chart of fps for that game

if i can find

[vague raptor]

What monitor do you have

[swift fjord]

i tell u rn

Asus ROG SWIFT PG278QR 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor

https://pc-builds.com/fps-calculator/result/1j01cy/3r/playerunknown-s-battlegrounds-season-4/2560x1440/

yeah idk how true this is

500+ fps at medium settings? on a not optimised game?

lol

[glossy falcon]

fps calculator 😭

[mellow glade]

Better cpu cooler would help a lot

[vague raptor]

What “better cpu cooler”

[vague raptor]

A calculator anything for pc building, unless it’s Pcpartpicker calculating price, is probably wrong

[swift fjord]

OK, i heard i9 13900k might be too hot using my current 360 aio cooler

i got suggested to switch to i7 13700k to save me some money and also have better thermals

🙂

so i think the choice is clear for me

[glossy falcon]

imagine all the kebabs you can buy with $250

[swift fjord]

yeah thats huge

that weeks and weeks worth of food in my belly

[mellow glade]

It was a 2 fan aio

A three fan would be better for i9

[jade geyser]

didnt the 7900x3d and 7950x3d have 128mb of vcache and 7800x3d only 96mb? or am i misremembering

[jade geyser]

OH

lmao i didnt notice

[vague raptor]

so i guess its like way higher?

this is the 7800x3d

[jade geyser]

oh wait

[jade geyser]

i thought this was a picture of the 7800x3d cache

lol i got confused

[vague raptor]

i guess total for the "gaming" cores on the ryzen 9's would total about 128MB of L3

the 128 is shared, so idk how it would allocate

[winged flicker]

what cpu are you running, and are you usin ga 240hz monitor?

[winged flicker]

its literally the same as someone else building it, as quite literally a prebuilt is somoene else building it, lots of prebuilts come broken

[winged flicker]

the issue is that the ryzen 9 cpus have the cache split on two ccds, and for gaming you can only use one ccd or else the performance hit will be very bad due to latency

[vague raptor]

yeah, the regular cores would be used for windows tasks (if windows schedules it right)

[winged flicker]

also 7800x3d is 389 rn

[vague raptor]

yeah for gaming the 7800x3D is way better

[zealous rose]

yeah i'm using a 240hz m27qx from gigabyte and i have a 12900k

yeah i'm giving up

i'm buying a new PC

@vague raptor does this list look okay

just worried about ram and the mobo

[brazen hollow]

The ram is solid tbh. 6000 MHz is the sweet spot for amd in my understanding

Like they said tho unless you need the 16 cores the 8 core 7800 x3d will be better for gaming because of the way the vcache is stacked on a single ccd

[vague raptor]

Yeah don’t go any higher for am5. In the most amd ultimate tech upgrade, they didn’t even manage to hit that

[brazen hollow]

Yea tbh it’s all about silicon lottery but on average 6000MHz is the best option. If all else fails just set it to 5600MHz

[glossy falcon]

i feel like that was before the new updates

[vague raptor]

Well, idk how long ago the amd ultimate tech upgrade was shot, but it couldn’t have been that long ago

[glossy falcon]

yes it could have tbh

[vague raptor]

I doubt it was though

[jade geyser]

why the nzxt aio

i mean i guess i respect it

you like the image

or the features that it haves

but for the price... its pretty bad

• its 240mm

which is not bad its fine

but

you could get a 360mm deepcool lt720 for way less lol

but eh do what you wanna do

apart from that its a fine build!

[brazen hollow]

Honestly if more brands like deep cool, EK, and artic focused a tad bit more on aesthetics I don’t think nzxt would even survive in the aio Market really

I mean maybe but they’d Defo have to move away from the asetek pumps and to actually stand out

[eager smelt]

Arctic* 🤓

[zealous rose]

yeah but i just realized that's the tz5k and not the tz5nr, tz5k isn't amd expo ready

[zealous rose]

yeah purely aesthetic

[zealous rose]

wait so if i get the 7800 it's more fps? honestly i just want apex to run smooth like butter

[jade geyser]

true}

the deepcool lt720 is a really good aesthetics + price / performance aio tho

like isnt it 110 dollars

cheap asf for its power and aesthetics at least in my opinion