I am building my first PC ever

[lone scaffold]

its funny because I'd love seeing a video of linus just checking this thread out

[silver path]

heres the best then bitch now go and waste your fucking money

[silver path]

i think hed have a meltdown

just as i am now reading ll tese msgs

[lone scaffold]

it would be great to explain how from someone that knows nothing about pc, everything is soo confusing

have a nice breakfast

[low nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-broke-gif-7855913

[silver path]

:0 tahmk

i got it now

cereal X3

[lone scaffold]

X)

[vale mulch]

i actually completely agree with this

the gaming is good too.

[silver path]

there you go then

[vale mulch]

i decided to go more gaming tho instead of more productivity

[silver path]

buy this and no more shenenigans with 043094037847598 messages

[vale mulch]

i like the 60 40 of the 7950x3d instead of the 40 60 of the 7950x

[vale mulch]

im actually not on cpu rn

im on gpu

also i took a nap

im awake for the day now

[silver path]

i meade a whole list

a complete pc

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhZQz6

if you bothered to look

all black

will last for the next few years

[vale mulch]

i approve these messages

can confirm i had no idea what chatgpt was.

tbh im not really impressed with chatgpt

[silver path]

man focus on pc please

look at the pcpp link i sent

and see if you want changes

[celest trench]

wouldnt a i9-13900k be a better cpu..

[silver path]

no

[vale mulch]

not a bad price for a gpu

[silver path]

7950x3d is not gonna fucking blow up

[vale mulch]

i just dont know my options when it comes to 4090s aside from aesthetics

[silver path]

that thing with a 360 aio will be as hot as the sun

[vale mulch]

idk who is the best ABI

i guess i do care about the slight differences

[celest trench]

[silver path]

this one has one of the higest boost clocks

[silver path]

a guy with a 420 had overheating problems

[vale mulch]

im a little interested in amd's xt and xtx

even if they are worse

im rich, but even i stopped buying eggs when they were $18

[silver path]

id reccoment the m cos better software

[celest trench]

crazy!

[silver path]

buy me a gpu lol

im poor as shit

my whole setup atm is 100 bucks

[celest trench]

whats ur gpu

[vale mulch]

maybe if you called me mommy

[silver path]

rn hd2500 intel

[silver path]

bitch im 15 nuh uh

[lone scaffold]

wait it's that simple?

[vale mulch]

nvm

[celest trench]

oh na

[celest trench]

mxmmy

🤣🤣🤣😤😤

jp

[silver path]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhZQz6
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w3GkcH

either of these

would recomend nvidia if blender is on mind

[vale mulch]

it's not even in the same class

[silver path]

it kinda is

[vale mulch]

kind of

the 13900ks is a better comparison

people just dont like it cause its overpriced to hell

[silver path]

bro im begging you please just choose a list

[celest trench]

i mean how much better is the 7580 tho or wtvr

7950*

[celest trench]

i would go w a 4090 tbh

[silver path]

imma have a meltdown if i have to survive another Penguin Tech

[lone scaffold]

give her benchmark between 7900xtx and 4090

[silver path]

in what

[lone scaffold]

idk

[silver path]

cad or games

[lone scaffold]

both

[silver path]

cp2077

[vale mulch]

im looking through the lists, but yes he's right. i wanna see benchmarks and look at graphs

[silver path]

i mean redraw encoidng is way better on nvidia the 7900xtx takes 2x as long as a 3070

[celest trench]

its crazy how expensive gpus are getting

[vale mulch]

i wanna learn, i dont wanna just buy what people tell me

all gpus are overpriced

[silver path]

so the 7900xtx is shit at video

like encoding

[lone scaffold]

the 7900xtx is probably better in some points but way worse in others

[silver path]

redraw especially

[celest trench]

bro imo i would go w the 4090

[silver path]

software wise yes

[vale mulch]

it's close to on par, but overall worse.

[silver path]

4090 is better in the fact more companies ue nvidia

[lone scaffold]

but isnt the 7900xtx half the price of 4090?

[silver path]

in encoding/rendering or even like you wanted ai training its up to 200% worse

[vale mulch]

but at that price, i would feel less bad. i dont wanna feel like im throwing it away lol

[silver path]

blender is the 200% worse one

[vale mulch]

but the 4080 is worse than the xtx

[silver path]

its not

[vale mulch]

and the 4070 or 4060 are just awful

[silver path]

for productivity no

[vale mulch]

remember productivity is my 2nd

[lone scaffold]

i mean they're just worse than the the others

[vale mulch]

yeah

[lone scaffold]

because the higher the number the better the performance

[silver path]

no they arent the 4060 beats the 3070 in most gaming scenarios and its way more efficient all theis 4070/60 hate is bs

[lone scaffold]

at least its supposed to be that way

[silver path]

no

[vale mulch]

i know they release them top loaded

[silver path]

a 7800x3d beats a 7950x in games lol

[vale mulch]

but the 4060 is actually just horrible

[lone scaffold]

i mean gpus

[vale mulch]

it's literally just a 3060

[silver path]

no its not

[lone scaffold]

like you wouldnt find a 4060 beating a 4070

[silver path]

stop talking bs

[silver path]

it can beat a 3070 in cases

[lone scaffold]

it is but with a lot of better software so it catches up

[silver path]

gaming and workstation

[lone scaffold]

yeah but the generations are different

i mean

[lone scaffold]

you dont want to look at the 4080 if you want the best since there is the 4090

[silver path]

yk what imma just fuck off and continue my sona

[lone scaffold]

your only choice is either 4090 or 7900xtx

[lone scaffold]

sounds chill

[silver path]

yeah Beans gonna be a Manokit :3

[vale mulch]

yeah too close but the update is nice for new buyers at that price point

[silver path]

its like a fish dog

[vale mulch]

better options tho

[silver path]

https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Manokit

manokittttt

[lone scaffold]

nvidia is just pricing randomly at that point as long as they make tons of profit

[lone scaffold]

hmm

[silver path]

they are SFW only so

[lone scaffold]

ok fair enough

[vale mulch]

im gonna steal this and make it into a new D&D race

[lone scaffold]

but lets keep the conversation around gpus

[silver path]

gl stealing from furs

[vale mulch]

well not really

[silver path]

yeah fuck sorry

[vale mulch]

but i do keep some ideas

[lone scaffold]

at that point we're not gonna find her a build before intel 14th gen arrives

[vale mulch]

like otters with unicorn horns. i love this one

[lone scaffold]

@vale mulch overall i'd recommend you to watch the linus video on the 7900xtx and the video on the 4090

[vale mulch]

i think i watched one of those

could you post them

[lone scaffold]

i think you'll have a better understanding of where they can compare

yep gimme a sec

[vale mulch]

i like comparisons

ekko players are always gentlemen

[silver path]

do not dare use user bench mark

[lone scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjaE2g4VOXI

[silver path]

or any other bottlenech calculator

[lone scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THxkY59_xko

[lone scaffold]

thank you

i have 1.8million pts on the character

im playing league waaay too much

[vale mulch]

unless you have a better way to show real ish world performance

[silver path]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R8ckcH

[silver path]

yt vids

[vale mulch]

i watched this one

[lone scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBJ-vo6Ri9c this one may be going into more details

[vale mulch]

im gonna devour these

[lone scaffold]

i love watching those videos knowing well that im never gonna be able to buy any of those cards

[vale mulch]

damn is my budget really that insane

[lone scaffold]

i mean

not really

[vale mulch]

im so removed 😵‍💫

[silver path]

insane enough to get me a gpu :3 (nah jk lol)

[lone scaffold]

but usually us peasants spends around a 1000$ for a pc

or maybe 2000

[vale mulch]

maybe a cpu

[silver path]

i spent 100 so far and my gpu is gonna be 300

[lone scaffold]

for you it will be around 5k

[silver path]

i have one

[vale mulch]

13900k is p cheap

[lone scaffold]

ure 15

im 21

[silver path]

money now >:3

[vale mulch]

LMAO

[lone scaffold]

cpus are cheap compare to gpus

[lone scaffold]

im a student

[vale mulch]

yeah ik

[lone scaffold]

i dont have much money

[silver path]

surely you got 300 tro spare X3

[lone scaffold]

well

yeah

ON MY STUDIES

[silver path]

(just so i dotnget banned im rectifiyin im just fucking about)

[silver path]

what u studying?

[lone scaffold]

yeah i figured X)

[low nexus]

hi bacon

[lone scaffold]

IT

[silver path]

wow what field?

[lone scaffold]

well

[silver path]

in IT X3

[lone scaffold]

funny enough

[low nexus]

which corner of it

[lone scaffold]

i dont have any specific field

[silver path]

?

tf

[low nexus]

what do u mostly do

[lone scaffold]

like my study is really called just IT

so i do web

more backed stuff

db

[silver path]

scratch my balls

[lone scaffold]

some AI

[low nexus]

ah

[lone scaffold]

some networking

[proud rapids]

Ai is what needs to be done with this computer

[lone scaffold]

i mean i was supposed to specialize my studies this year but instead i decided to study abroad

(my school kinda forced me)

[silver path]

do blender :3 ezzz

[lone scaffold]

so i guess im gonna specialize myself this year

[silver path]

see ez even with a 3rd gen i5 and 8gb ram lololo

[lone scaffold]

which is also my last year studying

[silver path]

then thats kinda shit

[lone scaffold]

yeah....

but i strongly believe that you dont learn shit in school

[silver path]

i love the glitches X3 my i5 is so slowww

[lone scaffold]

and you gotta learn during your first jobs

or by yourself

[silver path]

like me with blender :3

[lone scaffold]

yeah man this is awesome

[silver path]

i have moree

[lone scaffold]

i wish id have that kind of motivation towards something relevant

instead of playing league all day

[silver path]

heres one with smoke

[lone scaffold]

wooo

[silver path]

its a bot too thick imo

[low nexus]

idk how to blender

[vale mulch]

yep. not hardcore levels but it will eventually get to that point.

upon research i have learned that AI is like the pinacle of needing productivity performance

[silver path]

learn

now

[vale mulch]

blender seems interesting

[low nexus]

the only blender i know

[lone scaffold]

the process of choosing a gpu is simple
since you want the best just check the best option between the best AMD card and the best NVIDIA card
when ure done chosing you just have to choose a model
The model doesnt change much so just take the model of a trustfull company (good customer supports and that are known to make good products)
and then ure good to go to the next part of the build

which will probably be the mother board

and according to what i saw in these 3000+ messages, ure probably gonna take a while to choose ure motherboard

even though it wont change much in terms of performance

[silver path]

youll need nvidia tho

for fast renders

[lone scaffold]

ai = nvidia

in the gpu landscape

they focus way too much on that

while amd is just the best price to performance for gaming

[vale mulch]

did you guys see this

[lone scaffold]

y i saw

they basically canceled the 4090ti

[vale mulch]

wow

[lone scaffold]

so just get a 4090

[low nexus]

no 4090ti

[vale mulch]

i saw a video saying they just released the new gpu

but im p sure that was click bait

[lone scaffold]

its probably amd

they released a new gpu

[vale mulch]

towards the end they just talked about the 5090

[lone scaffold]

but its not available in the us

i think

[vale mulch]

but thats like basically 2025

[lone scaffold]

y

for now the best is the 4090

as far as im concerned

[vale mulch]

im interested in the xtx and xt efficiency comparison

also what is gddr6x mean?

[low nexus]

this is the longest thread now

[lone scaffold]

maybe they are better for power consumption

[lone scaffold]

it's the type of vram

gddr6X is last gen

so its faster than gddr6

or gddr5

[vale mulch]

is it like regular ram how regular how is named ddr5

[lone scaffold]

yeah

[vale mulch]

does the g stand for graphics

[lone scaffold]

but since its not the same ram

[low nexus]

yes

[lone scaffold]

they have different standards

[vale mulch]

yep cool

[lone scaffold]

gpus are way more simple than cpus

the only confusing part is the sheer amount of different models for the same card

dont overthink it

[low nexus]

gpus are quite simple

[lone scaffold]

https://techguided.com/7900-xtx-vs-rtx-4090/#:~:text=As we would expect from,power supply to power it.

[low nexus]

4090 more powerful, 7900xtx has 100W higher power draw, you pick

[lone scaffold]

also if you see the term "MSRP" it just means the price that nvidia or amd chose for their models

usually the other models base their gpus on that price

and it can be lower or higher depending on the card

[vale mulch]

i know what triple aaa title means

there is double aa titles too

but does anyone know what the a stands for lmao

[lone scaffold]

double aa?

nope

no idea

[low nexus]

no exist

[vale mulch]

damn

so weird

[lone scaffold]

i just have a vague idea of the concept of triple A games

[low nexus]

triple a games are like

[vale mulch]

just high budget

[lone scaffold]

but i wouldnt be able to define that clearly

[vale mulch]

or big teams

[low nexus]

cyberpunk

[lone scaffold]

y

but its a spectrum

there isnt a clear line between triple A and "normal" games

[vale mulch]

thats where double aa titles come into play

but double aa is never used

[lone scaffold]

yeah

[vale mulch]

because triple aaa titles are what push gpus and cpus the most

good for testing

[lone scaffold]

actually ive never heard of double A before

[lone scaffold]

yep exactly

[vale mulch]

unpopular opinion but aaa doesnt mean anything about how good the game is

[lone scaffold]

true

really true

it's not even unpopular

its just facts

its not because a game has high budget and "good" graphics

that its going to be necesarly good

[low nexus]

very true

[velvet falcon]

This is a very popular opinion

[vale mulch]

theres also quadruple aaaa but its just a marketing ploy during 2020

and iii but its just indie games

[low nexus]

its just games like the latest fifa or call of duty

[vale mulch]

and aaa+ but it's just aaa but like the highest ranked ones

it terms of profit

[lone scaffold]

so are you ready to move on to the motherboard part of your pc?

or do you want more insights with the gpu side?

[low nexus]

am5 boards time

[vale mulch]

i havent chosen yet.

whats a "die"

after these videos im gonna choose a chipset

[low nexus]

a die is just the processor basically

[vale mulch]

which is like the whole thing

[lone scaffold]

its an integrated circuit

[low nexus]

yes

[vale mulch]

so chips are small black boxes

processors are like the whole campus

[lone scaffold]

yep kinda

[low nexus]

yea

[vale mulch]

the black boxes would be buildings basically

[low nexus]

but you do not need to know about these little things basically

[vale mulch]

are amd gpu drivers actually that bad

[lone scaffold]

no

[low nexus]

yes

[lone scaffold]

i mean it depends

they have bad reputation

[low nexus]

most people come here for help with amd gpus

ive never seen an issue with a nvidia gpu

[lone scaffold]

but they usually dont cause any problems if u installed them properly

[vale mulch]

it seems like amd encoding for screen capping streaming clips and stuff is kind of much worse than nvidia

[lone scaffold]

yes it is

nvidia is the clear winner in encoding

[vale mulch]

like bean said earlier

[lone scaffold]

i do some twitch stream and i can tell

[vale mulch]

i feel like LTT didnt really say much about these gpus in this video

he does imply the xt and xtx are better than the 4080 tho

[low nexus]

if u want ai, nvidia, normal gaming, amd

[vale mulch]

basically similar performance for cheaper

[lone scaffold]

but nvidia is rlly good with normal gaming too

its just that if u just want gaming

[low nexus]

yeah

[lone scaffold]

there is no point in spending an extra 600 bucks to just get nvidia

[low nexus]

well their budget is limitless so it wouldnt hurt

might as well go top notch

[vale mulch]

so if pbo is overclocking

and uv is undervolt

what is uv

i mean what is undervolt

[low nexus]

undervolting is lowering the voltage to reduce temps usually

[lone scaffold]

gpu and cpu work with a certain voltage

and sometimes

manually giving a lower voltage improves performances

[vale mulch]

i might. the only thing i feel bad about with the 4090 is the guilt.

[lone scaffold]

idk how

or why

[vale mulch]

i definitely have the money tho

[lone scaffold]

for you ai stuff u wont regret it

[vale mulch]

cause like yeah my budget is fine, but i dont want bad deals

[lone scaffold]

you just have to be carefull while chosing you case

because the 4090 is a CHONKY BOY

[low nexus]

the 4090 will last a VERY long time

just get a fishtank case

or a 1000D lmao

[vale mulch]

it seems gaming in gpus is a bare minimum and although gaming sees noticeable differences. productivity also spikes between gens

whats a fishtank case

sounds interesting

[low nexus]

cases that are very wide

[lone scaffold]

he means a big case

[vale mulch]

yep. i was worried about size

[low nexus]

and made mostly of glass

[vale mulch]

tbh i thought bigger meant worse

[low nexus]

like a fishtank

like a hyte y60

[lone scaffold]

u dont want too big

[lone scaffold]

but with the 4090 u dont have much choice

[lone scaffold]

this is too big

but hella cool tho

[low nexus]

fishtank case

[vale mulch]

is fishtank the brand

[low nexus]

no

its just a saying

the brand for that case is hyte

[vale mulch]

what is a "titan class" gpu

[low nexus]

3 fans

[lone scaffold]

some models have 3 fans and some only have 2

[vale mulch]

so a smaller die area is better in general

transistor count = higher is better

[lone scaffold]

idk the details on that

[vale mulch]

do gpus have an L3 cache like the newer cpus

or just the L1 and L2

[low nexus]

yes

[low nexus]

l1 and l2 i believe

[proud rapids]

just looked it up they have l1,l2 and l3 cache

[low nexus]

i forgot the name but 1 fan= dwarf class 2 fan= (cant remember)
3 fan= titan class

[vale mulch]

wait whatt

titan class literally just means it has 3 fans on it lol

[low nexus]

yes

[lone scaffold]

yep

[low nexus]

asus just calls 2 fan dual class

[vale mulch]

what about the "titan" gpus

[low nexus]

but nvidia has a proper name

[vale mulch]

i thought there was a AIB or a threadripper type gpu called a titan

and maybe it was made by nvidia or something

[low nexus]

titan is very confusing, its sort of like a midpoint between gtx and rtx

[vale mulch]

whats a gtx lol

[low nexus]

the 4090 has 16,384 cuda cores, whereas the titan rtx has 4608 cuda cores

[vale mulch]

oh so titan class isnt the same as titan gpu

titan class = 3 fans

[low nexus]

rtx is ray tracing extreme

[vale mulch]

but there are still actual gpus called titan

[low nexus]

then gtx is giga texel shader extreme

[vale mulch]

is titan the manufacturer

[proud rapids]

I did not know that

[low nexus]

its the type of processor on the gpu

[low nexus]

they do not make them anyone i believe

but there was a titan series

usually not for consumers tho

[proud rapids]

they are more for workstations

[low nexus]

yeah

[lone scaffold]

not really good with gaming

[low nexus]

workstation gpus are made for work as you can tell lmao

[lone scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/nowaying-gif-27443953

[proud rapids]

they have a lot of vram

[low nexus]

like if u do video editing and stuff

[vale mulch]

ik RT is a gimmick but minecraft means a lot to me

also so what bean said about these

[low nexus]

workstation gpus

[vale mulch]

i wasnt aware that there were higher end gpus

is it worth it to get a workstation gpu?

[proud rapids]

no

[low nexus]

no

[proud rapids]

you want to game as well so not worth it

[vale mulch]

what if the productivity work is considerable and you dont mind sacrificing some gaming

[lone scaffold]

they're not really higher end

its like what we said about the xeon cpus

[low nexus]

also these gpus are REALLY expensive with lower performance

[lone scaffold]

basically the same

[vale mulch]

so similar to cpus there are still gaming and productivity gpus

[lone scaffold]

y basically

[vale mulch]

it's just that gaming gpus are like 95%

whereas gaming cpus are like 60%

of their markets

[lone scaffold]

y

i think.

[vale mulch]

or really just in popularity

what use case or group of people should consider a workstation gpu

[proud rapids]

cad

[lone scaffold]

https://www.electronicshub.org/workstation-gpu-vs-gaming-gpu/#:~:text=Workstations are designed for tasks,time required to complete tasks.

[low nexus]

cad work and stuffs

[lone scaffold]

just like cpus

gaming gpus can do productivity

but workstation gpus cant rlly

[low nexus]

youd be better off getting a 4090 than a workstation gpu because the top tier workstation gpus are double the price of a 4090 lmao

and the 4090 is better performance wise

[proud rapids]

I'm gonna buy a 4090 when i only play at 1080p a complete waste of money but I don't care

[vale mulch]

by downclock does he mean these workstation gpus while still being newer 30 or 40 series chipsets from this gen or last gen are being downclocked as in reducing their actual core and boost speeds which is why im reading like 1000 less mhz.

if they are 30 to 40 series chipsets why is their actual chipset listed as a6000, rtx8000 or radeon pro etc. that would mean that their chipset is actually not a 30 or 40 series at all but their own complete chipset. or does he just mean its similar to those chipsets?

[vale mulch]

whats cad

[low nexus]

the chipsets are different but give similar performance

[low nexus]

3d printing, cnc, etc

[vale mulch]

so the architecture inside is similar but the chipset is not the exact same

[low nexus]

yeah

[vale mulch]

if they give similar performance why are they so bad for gaming

[low nexus]

lower core counts

[vale mulch]

ik they are like $4000

oh they have lower cuda cores?

[low nexus]

and price to performance is shit

[vale mulch]

yeah

so technically they could be better than a 4090

but no one really knows because no one buys them

[low nexus]

they are made for work which uses alot of vram so they are designed only for vram use

[vale mulch]

which is like cad work stuff

[low nexus]

no

[vale mulch]

what does cad stand for

[vale mulch]

so itd be like gaming on a threadripper

[low nexus]

computer aided design

[lone scaffold]

exactly

[vale mulch]

their actual performance if benched would suffer in gaming but do great in productivity tasks like 7zip speed and stuff like that. like blender and so on

and then

[low nexus]

they suffer alot in everything but industrial type work

[vale mulch]

how are these different

[low nexus]

vram and just brands

[vale mulch]

no i mean all of these chipsets are "titan"

why so many titan gpus

whats the stigma with titan gpus

or titan chipsets

[low nexus]

titan is prominent

but it doesnt matter

ur looking at ai/gaming correct?

so just go for a rtx 4090

[proud rapids]

And cpu I think does not matter for so so go for the 7800x3d

[low nexus]

the x3d is good for the gaming side

so overall its good

so far we have had 3300~ messages to pick a cpu and nearly have gotten the gpu down

[proud rapids]

4090 best you for your use case

[low nexus]

yeah

[velvet falcon]

the motherboard and power supply arcs gonna be crazy

[proud rapids]

My first pc has 13900kf and a rtx 3080

I would suggest waiting to buy a 4090

[low nexus]

ram, case, fans, cpu cooler,

[vale mulch]

im just curious about it

i wanna know what it is

[low nexus]

its basically just for industrial work and has no benefit for ur use case

[vale mulch]

im not going the 7800x3d

why would the cpu not matter

[low nexus]

what cpu

are u picking

[vale mulch]

do you know anymore about it

[low nexus]

what do u want to know, im a bank of info lmao

[vale mulch]

more about the titan

[low nexus]

titans are discontinued workstation gpus

[vale mulch]

it cant be industrial if its on pcpp. but youre saying these titan chipsets are similar to the stigma of those workstation gpus

oh they actually are workstation

why discontinued

[low nexus]

mostly focused on vram use

[vale mulch]

who made them

[low nexus]

better cards

[low nexus]

nvidia

[vale mulch]

ohh

[low nexus]

theres industrial pc parts in pcpp

[vale mulch]

and they came before ray tracing so they are old now too

[low nexus]

yeah

[vale mulch]

industrial just means not regularly available to consumers

[low nexus]

it would have the performance in gaming of 20 series?

[vale mulch]

are there industrial gpus?

[low nexus]

industrial gpus are just workstation gpus

[vale mulch]

yknow how there are consumer threadrippers

[low nexus]

yeah

[vale mulch]

while most of the xeons are much more industrial and not on pcpp at all

[low nexus]

xeons are mostly server side

[vale mulch]

are there industrial gpus that are more industrial

[low nexus]

not really no

[vale mulch]

like the gpus that dont appear on pcpp

[low nexus]

unless a company has special relations with nvidia and gets exclusive gpus that are unheard of

[vale mulch]

i was considering an industrial cpu

ryzen 7 7800x3d = 90% gaming 10% productivity
ryzen 9 7900 = 80% productivity + 20% gaming
ryzen 9 7900x = 60% gaming + 40% productivity
ryzen 9 7950x = 60% productivity + gaming 40%
ryzen 9 7900x3d = 60% gaming 40% productivity
ryzen 9 7950x3d = 50% gaming + productivity 50%
13900k = 90% productivity 10% gaming
13900ks = 90% productivity 10% gaming
13900 = 90% productivity 10% gaming
13900kf = 90% productivity 10% gaming
13900f = 90% productivity 10% gaming
threadripper 3990x = 100% productivity
threadripper 3970x = 100% productivity
xeon w9 3495x = 100% productivity

this was my list

[low nexus]

do u need high core counts?

[vale mulch]

ryzen 7 7800x3d = 90% gaming 10% productivity
ryzen 9 7900 = 80% productivity + 20% gaming
ryzen 9 7900x = 60% gaming + 40% productivity
ryzen 9 7950x = 60% productivity + gaming 40%
ryzen 9 7900x3d = 60% gaming 40% productivity
ryzen 9 7950x3d = 50% gaming + productivity 50%
13900k = 90% productivity 10% gaming
13900ks = 90% productivity 10% gaming
13900 = 90% productivity 10% gaming
13900kf = 90% productivity 10% gaming
13900f = 90% productivity 10% gaming
threadripper 3990x = 100% productivity
threadripper 3970x = 100% productivity
xeon w9 3495x = 100% productivity

kf is just k but worse. ks is just k but better.

i decided to go with the 7950x3d

[low nexus]

13900kf is a terrible cpu because its essentially a faulty 13900k

[vale mulch]

is there passmark but for gpus?

[low nexus]

wdym

[vale mulch]

no i mean ones that arent really 4090

do you know what passmark is

[low nexus]

there could be but idk

[vale mulch]

like a xeon class gpu

[low nexus]

oh

no

theres nothing like that

[vale mulch]

xeon / epyc

good

[austere shale]

Forget the workstation cpus

[vale mulch]

oh no im past cpus

[low nexus]

can we get onto picking the gpu

[vale mulch]

meant workstation gpus

[austere shale]

Yeah forget those too

[low nexus]

4090 for ai+gaming

[austere shale]

Unless you’re willing to buy 2 seperate gpus

[proud rapids]

Like mentioned multiple time 4090

[low nexus]

motherboard time!

am5 is platform

ig we going ddr5

[austere shale]

DDR2 😉

100%

[vale mulch]

im done watching the 2nd video

im gonna watch the 3rd

the 4090 has unparalleled productivity performance

[low nexus]

Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE

[vale mulch]

what exactly is video encoding

[low nexus]

not very important

[vale mulch]

lol

[low nexus]

nvidia things

[proud rapids]

It allows you to record/livestream your game

[low nexus]

@vale mulch how much ram do u want

[vale mulch]

like vram?

[low nexus]

no

[vale mulch]

the highest amount possible

[low nexus]

bet

[austere shale]

Oh no

[vale mulch]

even if it is unnecessary

[austere shale]

Time for the 4x48gb

[proud rapids]

I mean the budget at its highest is 20k

[vale mulch]

yes

ram is cheap

[low nexus]

do not go 4x for amd

[austere shale]

True

Max will be 64GB

[low nexus]

2x64

[vale mulch]

is there a site for gpus thats similar to passmark

[proud rapids]

You will end up with a pc that can do anything you want

[vale mulch]

i feel like this is important

especially for me

[austere shale]

Nvidia nvenc encoder

[vale mulch]

whats that

[low nexus]

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory should be enough

theres no 2x64 i can find

[proud rapids]

Did you check compatibility?

Anyway I’m going to bed

[low nexus]

good night

[vale mulch]

nini

[low nexus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CfJHXy

this is what ive got so far

[vale mulch]

it's looking good

[low nexus]

amd is not very good at using all 4 slots with ram

[vale mulch]

why

[low nexus]

unstable af

so you would most likely get a tons of bsods

[vale mulch]

where is the encoder located

[low nexus]

please 😭

[vale mulch]

and what is ada?

[low nexus]

its not important

you can research that part in ur own time

lets get the build down first then questions after yes?

[vale mulch]

but isnt this my own time 😭

[low nexus]

get the main priority done

then u can ask all u want after

[vale mulch]

i mean i already have a build

[low nexus]

lemme see

[vale mulch]

i ended up switching out the 7950x for the x3d

[low nexus]

oh um

[vale mulch]

huge fan of the 7950x tho at first

[low nexus]

send me the link

[vale mulch]

its deleted

[low nexus]

damn

[vale mulch]

im way better at building now

[low nexus]

might as well recreate it

do u want aio or air cooled

[vale mulch]

whats that

[low nexus]

water cooling or air cooling

[vale mulch]

whats the difference

which is better

[low nexus]

depends

[vale mulch]

idk anything about cooler yet

[low nexus]

oh lord

[vale mulch]

super dumb when it comes to cooler

i only know cpus

and a good amount of gpus now

[velvet falcon]

you started part 3 iono

[low nexus]

ty ty

[vale mulch]

i think mb should come after gpu

[low nexus]

aios are usually smaller and harder to use

[vale mulch]

whats an AIO

[low nexus]

whereas air coolers are larger and use fans

[vale mulch]

what does it stand for

[low nexus]

all in one

[vale mulch]

ohh okay

like an all in one cooler?

[low nexus]

yeah

[vale mulch]

cool

[velvet falcon]

its called an aio cause you can watercool without one but all the parts are seperated

[low nexus]

you can water cool yourself with each parts but you have to be EXTREMELY skilled

so aio would be easier for u

[vale mulch]

why is linus skipping the 40 series gpus this gen

[velvet falcon]

shitty pricing

think of it as him boycotting cause of it

[low nexus]

Deepcool LT720 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

great aio

[vale mulch]

oh just the pricing even tho 4090 is a good upgrade price / performance

still overpriced but when you calculate the price / performance it's respectable.

[low nexus]

we ball, 1650W PSU

[vale mulch]

why not a 2000 W

i want titanium

[low nexus]

u wanna spend 700 bucks

[vale mulch]

theres like a 12 year warranty right

[low nexus]

alright then

[velvet falcon]

the real question is why 2000 watts

[vale mulch]

for the future

[velvet falcon]

your pc aint gonna pull that much power in the slightest lmao

[low nexus]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09NVR44C1?psc=1&th=1&linkCode=gs2&tag=pcp0f-21

2050W

[vale mulch]

but from what i hear it doesnt hurt the hardware

if you go higher

[low nexus]

it doesnt

[velvet falcon]

it doesnt

[vale mulch]

and you actually dont want the same watts

cause of situational things

[velvet falcon]

just seems wasteful money wise is all im saying

[low nexus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z9sKHG

this is what ive got so far

[velvet falcon]

then again hou do have infinite budget so fuck it i guess

[vale mulch]

you only want a little higher than the tower draws

[vale mulch]

wastful how

[low nexus]

u can have 2000W its fine

[vale mulch]

i can see the wasteful in a overpriced cpu or a overpriced gpu

cause its a bad deal

[low nexus]

good for future upgrade path

[vale mulch]

like the 13900ks is actually a bad deal

and in the case of the 13900ks its actually not worth the future proofing

in what way would spending extra and an even more powerful psu be ever not worth the price in any way at all

[low nexus]

its fine

[vale mulch]

the PSU is from what i hear the longest lasting part by far is it not

they literally put 10 to 12 year warrantys on these things

[low nexus]

how much storage do u need

[vale mulch]

so why go 1600 w

[low nexus]

22tb?

[vale mulch]

when if i go that i might need to upgrade one day

the higest possible

[low nexus]

bet

[vale mulch]

is it bad to get a stronger PSU?

[low nexus]

no

we have got a 2tb nvme for boot drive

and a 22tb hdd

that should be enough

[vale mulch]

that sounds like a route i will take

[low nexus]

oop youtube video stopped

tinnitus go eee

[vale mulch]

what is a "chiplet"

[low nexus]

a chiplet or chipset

[vale mulch]

hm that cant be right

[low nexus]

do u have any requirements for a case

[low nexus]

oh

[vale mulch]

my idea of what a chip was. was basically a chiplet

[low nexus]

?

colour, size?

its gotta be atx tho

[vale mulch]

oh i guess they are chips

but they are newer chips

and they are called chiplets because they are modular instead of monolithic chips

[low nexus]

fuck it we ball with a expensive case

[vale mulch]

improve performance and flexibility

[low nexus]

super high qual tho

[vale mulch]

i want a pink case

[low nexus]

uh oh um

[vale mulch]

all the other girls already have their pink case

i need mine

[low nexus]

lmao

lemme find one

do u have a desk yet @vale mulch

[vale mulch]

yeah

[low nexus]

how large is it

and do u have an idea on the monitors u want

dual monitor, trip monitor?

[vale mulch]

its a 1970s industrial wooden desk

[low nexus]

thats good

[vale mulch]

it fits my 75 in tv and my atx pc on top in width side by side

[low nexus]

oh my

[vale mulch]

but it is about 3 feet in depth

[low nexus]

hold on a min

[vale mulch]

about 6 ft long

/ wide

2.5 ft tall

[low nexus]

ah so a bit shorter than my desk

[vale mulch]

what you got under there

a dog bed

[low nexus]

i would dual monitor ur tv and another monitor

[vale mulch]

oh no im selling my tvs

[low nexus]

oh damn

[vale mulch]

the 75 in form factor is just not big enough

and i have 3 of them

[vale mulch]

dual tv monitor setup in the living room tho

with full motion mounts

[low nexus]

ah

[vale mulch]

nice battle station

[low nexus]

i want a larger desk

or perhaps a longer monitor cable so i can move my pc onto the other half of the desk

[lone scaffold]

@low nexus i just cameback and read all the msg i missed and damn ure rlly speedrunning this one

[low nexus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wRjG34

[vale mulch]

im still on the 3rd video

im gonna go focus now

[low nexus]

ive got so much done lmao

[lone scaffold]

while she's still on the gpu ure already done with the ram

[vale mulch]

i just need to go hop on google to find out what a GCD vs MCD is for chiplets

[low nexus]

im done with the system

[lone scaffold]

ah yes basically

[low nexus]

need to get down a monitor

then keyb mouse and allat

[vale mulch]

500 refresh rte

[lone scaffold]

4k monitor for 4k gaming

[low nexus]

500hz?

[vale mulch]

its possible now

[lone scaffold]

yes it is

its like

the maximum

[vale mulch]

and theres a cpu and gpu that can do it too

[low nexus]

they dont really sell the monitor much

[vale mulch]

i dont remember which one

[low nexus]

do u want 2 monitors?

[lone scaffold]

the hz in the monitor has nothing to do with the cpu and gpu

its basically the number of times the monitor refreshes per seconds

this means that if you want a smooth experience on a 500hz monitor

[low nexus]

i can get 300hz but 500 is very hard to find now

[vale mulch]

so a chiplet interposer basically acts like a chipset but for the function of like one chip or processor instead of a whole mb

[lone scaffold]

you would need to get 500fps

[lone scaffold]

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-500hz-gaming-monitor-aw2524h/apd/210-bglm/monitors-monitor-accessories

[vale mulch]

no just 1

[low nexus]

oh

[lone scaffold]

well then its gonna be the one i just posted

how big do you want the monitor to be?

nvm

[vale mulch]

wow thats actually not a bad price

[lone scaffold]

its only available in 25 in

[low nexus]

its only 1080p 25in

[vale mulch]

i thought it would be 10k lmao

[lone scaffold]

ah yes indeed the monitor is only 1080p

so wont get 4k on that

you can have both yet

[low nexus]

yeah

@vale mulch do u have a good keyb and mouse

[vale mulch]

whats 3840x1600

the 38in has that

[vale mulch]

no

[vale mulch]

in 2014 i got this

[low nexus]

oh lord

[lone scaffold]

its the resolution

[low nexus]

basically 4k

[lone scaffold]

FHD is 1080x1920

and 4k is either 3 840 × 2 160 or 4 096 × 2 160 px

[lone scaffold]

do you want a curved monitor?

[low nexus]

we going girly keyb and mouse

[vale mulch]

oh but its 144 hz

so its not possible yet

4k = possible

500 hz = possible

[lone scaffold]

the best 4k monitor = 240hz

[vale mulch]

but not both

[lone scaffold]

yep

[vale mulch]

yayy

[lone scaffold]

.

[low nexus]

headphones?

[vale mulch]

im goth but i dont want a goth pc if that makes sense

[low nexus]

based

[vale mulch]

idk but i love hello kitty.

[low nexus]

thats a classic tbh

[lone scaffold]

curved monitor or flat monitor pls i need to know

[vale mulch]

whats the difference

[low nexus]

not much

[lone scaffold]

one is curved

one is flat

X)

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/32-odyssey-neo-g8-4k-uhd-240hz-1ms-curved-gaming-monitor-ls32bg852nnxgo/

[low nexus]

@vale mulch do u have a good pair of headphones or are u more of a speaker type of person

[vale mulch]

are there speaker types of people

[lone scaffold]

do u preafer speakers or headphones

some people preafer speakers

[lone scaffold]

some prefer headphones

[vale mulch]

i think speakers are good for during the day

[lone scaffold]

so you want both?

[vale mulch]

headphones are good for night

[lone scaffold]

u can get both

u have money

[low nexus]

u want both

[vale mulch]

im gonna be doing vanlife

so ill be living in my van full time

and sometimes i need to be stealthy

so the cops dont catch me

[low nexus]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/razer-kraken-hello-kitty-edition-wireless-headset-with-chroma-rgb-lighting-pink/6496627.p?acampID=0&cmp=RMX&intl=nosplash&irclickid=Xk2xh12-ExyPUQ6QCvQygSCeUkFwfNQhCRzG3o0&irgwc=1&loc=PCPartPicker&mpid=79301&ref=198&refdomain=pcpartpicker.com&skuId=6496627

[vale mulch]

omg its so cute

[low nexus]

guess we adding that

webcam?

[lone scaffold]

doesnt she wanna be a vtuber? i dont remember

i know she wants to stream

[low nexus]

a vtuber sounds fun

[vale mulch]

do they have cat ear headphones

like these

[low nexus]

yes

[vale mulch]

need

[lone scaffold]

do you want to use a webcam while streaming?

[vale mulch]

maybe eventually

but the vtube model is more important

[lone scaffold]

if u wanna be vtuber ull need one anyway

[vale mulch]

ohhh yeahh

[lone scaffold]

because else how is the model supposed to track your movements

[vale mulch]

yep

i forgot LOL

[lone scaffold]

ok this is nice because since its just for tracking it doesnt need to be top of the line best looking webcam

a simple 100$ webcam or even just your phone would do the trick

your phone would actually probably be better than any 100$ webcam

those things have crazy cameras

[vale mulch]

mcd = memory cache die
gcd = graphics compute die for the whole gpu

[low nexus]

https://www.newegg.com/p/0TH-06PA-00012

fan hubs are annoying to find on pcpp

impossible basically

but ive nearly got the system done

[vale mulch]

the XT is worse than the 4080

but the XTX is better

[low nexus]

then the 4090 is better than the xtx

[vale mulch]

yes

but the power consumption and heat and size and the bad deal for consumers worries me

[low nexus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4P6489
add the monitor link and the headphones i cant get them on there

you will also have to find a fan hub and a argb fan controller most likely

cant get them here

i got the entire thing done in a few hours lmao

speedrun wr

[vale mulch]

the rx7900 xtx has horrible ray tracing

[low nexus]

if u dont wanna build it urself u can hire someone to build it

[vale mulch]

how much

[low nexus]

depends on the person

it would prolly be like 200 bucks for ur system

but youll know its gonna work

i can also help with windows activation

also from what ive seen you have barely any experience on building systems

so you could damage something or whatever

[vale mulch]

i think its funny how LTT makes videos against certain parts and i just end up favoring the part that they didnt like lmao

[low nexus]

lmao

[rose sentinel]

Have 2 baller PCs one to do the workload for editing/rec. and one specifically for gaming

[vale mulch]

not me thinking of getting the 7950x3d and the 4090

[low nexus]

nah

[vale mulch]

whereas linus would rather talk about the 7800x3d and the 7900 xt

[vale mulch]

a couple people have mentioned this

but how practical is it

[rose sentinel]

Why not? He said no budget, you can build good pc around 1k

[vale mulch]

i feel like this would interrupt work flow

[low nexus]

its not very practical

[vale mulch]

and if you dont do a lot of productivity, then you might not know how important that is

having to hop onto another pc to sign in

[low nexus]

yeah

[vale mulch]

and then making sure they are logged off

like im gonna be that b that never signs off of both pcs at that rate

[rose sentinel]

It’s not convenient

I see

[low nexus]

its better to just go baller on 1 pc

[vale mulch]

its a bad habit

but i cant stand the log in times

[rose sentinel]

Custom Water cooling usually is baller

[low nexus]

if ur experienced

[vale mulch]

isnt there a way to have a backup PSU for in case of power outage or similar

[low nexus]

yes

hold on i will get one

[rose sentinel]

Yeah but prob best if they had someone who can put it together

[vale mulch]

and your pc dies but has a backup to give you time to shutdown in time

what are those called

[low nexus]

UPS

ive added one to ur list

[vale mulch]

are they worth it

thank youu

[low nexus]

extremely worth it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZsJkcH

[rose sentinel]

Power surger protector

[low nexus]

they help u so much

can help save important info and hardware

incase of power outages

[rose sentinel]

Why that psu 700

[low nexus]

2050 w

[rose sentinel]

That’s a lot lool

[low nexus]

they asked for it

[vale mulch]

whats the GPGPU?

[neon lava]

i want to see you start buying stuff dont just be talking dream!

[vale mulch]

and whats resizeable bar?

[rose sentinel]

Felt like they could of put more money into mobo with WiFi and pay like 400 for psu

[vernal kettle]

We wasting our time

[low nexus]

shes surpassed ur message count

[neon lava]

I see that

Impressive

[low nexus]

yes

it was mostly questions

but i got her entire build down in a few hours lmao

[low nexus]

i dont mind

im doing nothing anyways

[vernal kettle]

Me too but they dont worth it

[low nexus]

eh

[vernal kettle]

Bro ask for a gpu then want to know how it work cowliss

[low nexus]

oh well

[rose sentinel]

That’s nice gpu

[neon lava]

Still not bad

[low nexus]

its the ultimate baller pc

[rose sentinel]

Only thing was the psu that had me. Rather have more $$$ into mobo than psu.

[low nexus]

they want expandability

[rose sentinel]

Ahhh okay but damn 2k watts Looll holy

[low nexus]

psus last 10-12 years and tech can advance a ton in a decade

[rose sentinel]

Yeah

[vale mulch]

how bad does a forced shut down hurt a pc

[rose sentinel]

I got just the 1k watts replaced my other one bc it didn’t support the build. It’s still like new. Had like no dust in it. Had it for 8 years plus

[vale mulch]

and how bad does leaving your pc on 24 7 hurt the pc