#Partially Used AMD build.

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whole abyss
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nice build

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i wouldnt say its worth 1600 tho, prices on some of those parts just arent right

inner badger
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I might be wrong

whole abyss
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im saying the pcpp part isnt representative of how much the parts actually are worth/cost

inner badger
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oh yeah 100%

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looks spicy tho

whole abyss
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since i could literally spec out the same system with all new parts for less than 970 with all the same aesthetics

inner badger
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they could have gotten a smaller case too

whole abyss
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for sure

inner badger
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lol who am I kidding
mine is worse

whole abyss
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proof!

inner badger
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I'm glad I'm upgrading soon

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parts are in shipping

polar root
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looks good

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but yeah, a bit much $ for the specs

thorny blaze
thorny blaze
polar root
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wait, is it 970? or 1600?

thorny blaze
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970

polar root
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oh, then it’s great

thorny blaze
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It would’ve been 1600 if I bought it all new

polar root
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gotcha

thorny blaze
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Is 970 fair?

polar root
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i mean… it is almost new

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stuff just got released

thorny blaze
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Yea just a used drive or two and the cpu and gpu

polar root
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the cpu i mean

polar root
whole abyss
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meh

thorny blaze
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My aio is super overkill I know this

polar root
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oh wait

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i’m blind today

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i read 7800x

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I mean, it’s just ok

thorny blaze
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Nah lol

polar root
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It’s still fine

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just not the best deal

thorny blaze
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Tbh I could went with about $200 less if I got a budget case and a dual tower air cooler

polar root
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also, get 5800x3d for gaming

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not 5950

thorny blaze
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Ima upgrade to the 5950x eventually probably

polar root
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5800x3d matches the 7800x in games

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5950x is gonna be maybe even worse than ur cpu for games

whole abyss
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the 7800x doesnt exist

thorny blaze
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I don’t care for am5 as literally everytbing is through the roof on pricing

whole abyss
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the 5800x3d doesnt match the 7800x3d either

polar root
whole abyss
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the 5800x3d matches the 7600.

polar root
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fr?

thorny blaze
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Theirs a i9 7800x lol

whole abyss
thorny blaze
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If that’s what you’re referring to

whole abyss
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but by the time your 5800x is lacking it'll be more worthwhile to switch to a new socket anyways

polar root
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You’re right

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i’m not dully following

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I got a 7950x, thought they released a 7800x

thorny blaze
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Other then the expensive case and aio tho I’d say its a decent buy. It would’ve been just about $650 then

polar root
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i mean theres a 5800x

whole abyss
thorny blaze
polar root
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gotcha

whole abyss
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by the time you'll want to upgrade a 6c/12t cpu will probably have the same multicore performance as it

thorny blaze
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Tbh I shoulda just went cheap on the aio and case 😂 but I like it so

polar root
whole abyss
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i think you should get a smaller case tbh

polar root
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what 6 core does he wanna upgrade to?

thorny blaze
whole abyss
thorny blaze
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And found this for just over $100

whole abyss
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for instance a 7700x (8c/16t) matches a 5900x (12c/24t) in multicore

polar root
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ur best upgrade is a 5800x3d for gaming

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and tbh not even worth the money

whole abyss
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i don't think any upgrade would be worth it

polar root
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unless u flip ur 5800x

whole abyss
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5800x will be good for a while

polar root
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yeah

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2-3 years for sure

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some people would take it 5 more years

whole abyss
thorny blaze
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I could probably flip it for $1200 with the prices of similiar spec’d PCs around me

whole abyss
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too much empty space in the case IMO

polar root
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people still out there with skylakes

thorny blaze
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And a lot of room for upgrading

thorny blaze
polar root
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wow

thorny blaze
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Dual Xeon Haswell

polar root
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holy cow

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I upgrade my cpus like crazy

whole abyss
polar root
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I was just lucky to have cheap access

whole abyss
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accommodates 360mm aios and is a whole lot more space efficient

thorny blaze
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Well Tbf I have more room near the pcie slots for filling tho

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Which I plan to do with another gpu and a capture card

polar root
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bruh

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y u need a capture card?

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can get some better hardware for the money

thorny blaze
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Streaming

polar root
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you can use software

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pro streamers that want 4k out without 1fps drop need that

whole abyss
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he doesnt have dedicated encoders tho

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he'd be hardware encoding

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tbf, the 5800x probably streams just fine

polar root
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I mean, can’t his gpu/cpu do all that?

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he’ll just lose a few fps

whole abyss
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yeah its just not optimal

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typically you'd want at least an nvidia gpu or intel cpu with an iGPU if you're streaming

polar root
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Just test with software first, might save you some cash

thorny blaze
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Why I have 2 gpus

polar root
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can bet more ram, an ssd or something

polar root
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what gpus?

whole abyss
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i'd maybe get an arc a380 or something for encoding instead of a capture card, just cause it can do more

polar root
thorny blaze
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I have a 1080 ti ima throw in

polar root
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yeah, that works

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think about airflow tho

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don’t choke the poor card with the 1080ti

thorny blaze
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I’ve Defo got enough room I’ve already checked

polar root
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ok then

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send pics, interested how it will look

thorny blaze
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Plus that 6 fan aio pumps out some air

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I haven’t even sorted it yet I gotta find the 1080 it’s in attic somewhere rip

polar root
whole abyss
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nah

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similar, though

polar root
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whoever mounted that aio needs a slap and education

whole abyss
polar root
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unless he enjoys spongebob noises

polar root
whole abyss
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its the matx version of that other case

thorny blaze
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Btw that case you recommended is another $50 more then what I paid for mine rip

whole abyss
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its cheaper?

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$95

polar root
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I used to have a nice case but gave it to my lil bro

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had to move country, couldn’t take it

thorny blaze
# whole abyss

I was gonna get that exact cooler and instead got the aio

polar root
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just bought a shitty white corsair case

thorny blaze
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For me it’s $150

polar root
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looks good tho

whole abyss
thorny blaze
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At newegg

whole abyss
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thermalright frozen notte

thorny blaze
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Doesn’t it use the asetek design tho

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Which is meh

whole abyss
whole abyss
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but they use an in-house design

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that's actually pretty decent from what i've seen/heard

polar root
whole abyss
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apaltek is the aio OEM you want to look out for

polar root
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but yes, they’re good aios

whole abyss
polar root
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just a shitty corporation

whole abyss
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they're just generic

polar root
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they are trash

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they think they can patent a pump on a block

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they need to suck…

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whatever

thorny blaze
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A lot of people use this aio to cool the 13900k sooo I was like why not lol

polar root
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now we have those shitty aios with pumps in the rad cause of them

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so stupid

whole abyss
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that's apaltek.

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which also gunk up and fail

polar root
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asetek doesnt have the pump in the block?

thorny blaze
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The EK aio I have

whole abyss
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i believe the deepcool lt/ls720 would be better

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and cheaper

thorny blaze
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EK Elite 360mm AIO

polar root
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conclusion: as long as it doesn’t say ennermax on the box it should be fine

thorny blaze
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Yea I Defo could’ve went cheaper on the case and aio but other then that not too bad imo

polar root
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bro, it’s a good price, and a great build

thorny blaze
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I just went a little higher end cause I didn’t mind the cost for a quality nickel platted water block

polar root
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and it looks great

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don’t even think about it lol

whole abyss
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theres just too much empty space imo

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in the case

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but thats like the only critique

polar root
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yeah, but that ain’t bad

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more airflow for smaller internals

thorny blaze
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I wanna get cable extensions to clean it up too was looking at lian li and cable mods. But found Asian horse and antec white extensions were cheaper and decent reviews

whole abyss
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hold up.. three case fans died?

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wtf fractal

polar root
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i was an idiot when i was 12, accidentally bought mini itx for an atx case

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about 10 years back

thorny blaze
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Yea the rgb died

polar root
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wut

thorny blaze
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The bottom one is hanging on for dear life

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It didn’t affect any of the others that are all in Daisy chain before and after

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I got it from Newegg and ofc shittt newegg support told me to contact fractal design as they don’t have individual fans. But I looked on neweggs website and saw they Defo did have the exact fans that died sooooo

polar root
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wtf

whole abyss
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well its fair tbh

polar root
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in europe you’ll be able to ruin the

whole abyss
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not newegg's fault the fans died, they shouldnt have to lose money for them

polar root
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either one is legally obliged to help

whole abyss
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im sure you probably could have returned it/exchanged it

polar root
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maybe you could negotiate to just replace the fans?

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less effort

thorny blaze
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Ima contact fractal to try to get the fans replaced but we'll see how that goes i've never dealt with their support

polar root
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you sure u didn’t do something wrong? fans are spinning

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could be a software issue, wrongly connected?

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had similar software glitches in 2018

thorny blaze
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Nah I just booted it randomly one day the the three front fans were deaD

polar root
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oddly similar

polar root
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then ok

thorny blaze
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The same exact fan in the back is fine

polar root
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well, i hope they don’t make you send the whole case

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that would be a pain in the ass

thorny blaze
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That would be a real pain

polar root
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yeah.

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some companies make u do that

thorny blaze
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Spent too long throwing it together and routing cables

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Surely they would just send me some fans lol

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If not I may just use the 3 spare rgb fans I have from my last case

warped totem
warped totem
polar root
warped totem
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also 7600 plus mobo and ram is only $420

polar root
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that’s reasonable af

warped totem
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fr and his used 5800x is only $50 less, mobo for $20 less, and you can get 5600 cl32 32gb ddr5 for $81

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so spending $70 for a 15-20% performance increase on cpu

thorny blaze
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Which motherboard for $20 less?

polar root
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you can always find it cheaper

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is it practical tho? is it the same condition? is it not a scam?

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bro got an ok deal. You can also find them more expensive

thorny blaze
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Yea I looked pretty intensely into the am5 platform and I was gonna spend $100+ for the performance I have no lol

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Ram is expensive and motherboards with a decent amount of power phases and feature rich are veryyyyy expensive

polar root
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fair, but keep in mind with am5 you also have a future

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for 3+ years

warped totem
warped totem
# polar root for 3+ years

much longer really, honestly if they go for two more generations with x3d cpus i could see am5 being relevant in performance for around a decade

polar root
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doubt it

warped totem
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does amd usually have a new gen every 2 years

polar root
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am4 was an exception

whole abyss
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18 months

polar root
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things are moving much quicker now

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and we have much larger platform changes than ever

warped totem
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okay maybe not a decade then

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but still a long ass time

whole abyss
thorny blaze
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And about the Intel thing I really didn’t wanna go with Intel anymore even in the used market amd always seems cheaper

polar root
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chips are changing now, we will have different types of cores, ai units etc

warped totem
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yea but that doesnt change the cpus

polar root
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with am4 it was just same old faster

warped totem
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a 7600 is a cpu that can pull over 200fps in most titles when not gpu bound

polar root
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now we are reaching the limits of euv

thorny blaze
whole abyss
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such as

thorny blaze
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2.5g lan, bios flash back, usb 3.2, and several pcie slots

warped totem
polar root
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b650 should have that

warped totem
polar root
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better b650 boards

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and why do you need flashback?

thorny blaze
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Gpu pass through

whole abyss
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b650s are pretty feature rich even on the low end

warped totem
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all b650s have flashback

polar root
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I OCd a lot, never ever needed it

warped totem
polar root
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most boards have 2 bios’s

thorny blaze
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I’m on Linux and game in a windows vm

polar root
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you gotta be special to kill 2 bioss

polar root
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kvm?

thorny blaze
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Yea

polar root
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unless you have direct pcie passthrough

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then ok, but still pointless

thorny blaze
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Pass through via qemu

polar root
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is it that hard to restart?

thorny blaze
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What?

polar root
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just restart into windows

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use a nice grub theme

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or if patch the games you need, most games can be made to work

thorny blaze
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I’d rather just stay in Linux

polar root
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i see

thorny blaze
polar root
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yeah you can

thorny blaze
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Even with the patches various functions of the games simply won’t work

polar root
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on debian for 10 years, can get most of your games working

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people even got easy anti cheat working lmao

warped totem
thorny blaze
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I can’t play a single cod game on Linux lol

warped totem
polar root
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it’s linux, all is possible

warped totem
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just checked in its specs and yep it does

polar root
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and what anticheat

warped totem
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and 8 usb slots total

polar root
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not api, sorry

thorny blaze
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No idea

polar root
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let me tell you

thorny blaze
polar root
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bruh, you play the only game with kernel level anti cheat

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yet it’s full of cheaters

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the game can run 100%, the anti cheat is the only killer

thorny blaze
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I don’t play cod it’s just an example lol

polar root
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well most games can run

thorny blaze
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I can’t play valorant either which I do play

polar root
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you can even make pubg work with modifications

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no way, that has to run

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found a guy that did it but it takes hours

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kvm is better i guess

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these devs need to start making limux anti cheats

thorny blaze
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Theirs just too much work involved in Linux gaming when the games work fine with pass through

polar root
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idiots, their games literally run on linux, they just need to am,e the anticheat

polar root
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the graphical part works 100%

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you can use dxvk to convert directx to vulcan, and other games use opengl

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so all you need is the anticheat

thorny blaze
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Well…you can’t run most of those games without it soooo

polar root
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yeah, but I mean it would not be hard for them to make it work

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they just lazy

thorny blaze
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Yea ik lol

polar root
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hopefully one day

thorny blaze
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That’s why I play on windows and need several pcie slots

polar root
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if they make it work on mac it wouldn’t be hard to adapt

thorny blaze
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That board he recommended earlier doesn’t have to either so

polar root
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I just dual boot, don’t play games often

thorny blaze
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Still not really an upgrade for me

polar root
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and csgo runs better on linux

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it runs natively

thorny blaze
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Yea

polar root
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so i’m happy with a dualboot

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also gta runs great

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with proton

thorny blaze
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Yea

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I could’ve went with am5 but I for sure woulda spent $100+ on almost everytbing

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I looked for 3 months at prices before I pieced this together

polar root
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I mean, 5xxx is good

thorny blaze
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No motherboard had the features on am5 for this price

polar root
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I only got 7000 cause I had 3rd gen

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otherwise I would maybe get the 5950

thorny blaze
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Yes

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When I sell my Xeon workstation I might think about upgrading and using this as my second pc

polar root
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what xeon was it?

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I once bought one of those insane developer samples for 50$

thorny blaze
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Dual e5 2667 v3s

polar root
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the size of my hand with 32 cores

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dk if it worked tho

thorny blaze
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8 core CPUs for $15 a piece

polar root
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not bad at all

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why would you sell it?

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It’s better value to keep it

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cheap server > 100$

thorny blaze
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Cause they bring decent on the used market as a full build

polar root
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ogh

thorny blaze
polar root
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how much?

polar root
thorny blaze
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For what I have about $400ish

polar root
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😮

thorny blaze
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48gb of ecc ram

polar root
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ok then

thorny blaze
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6tb storage

polar root
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isn’t it ddr2?

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or ddr3?

thorny blaze
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No ddr4

polar root
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what!?

thorny blaze
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2133MHz

polar root
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that’s much newer than I imagines

thorny blaze
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2400 is you OC

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IF*

polar root
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I was thinking like lga2011v1

thorny blaze
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No 2011-3

polar root
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oooh

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did it become that cheap?

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god, time flies

thorny blaze
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Ram and CPUs are stupid cheap

polar root
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like it came out yesterday

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i swear

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i remember linus just showing ddr4

thorny blaze
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You can get a 18 core 2697 for $60

polar root
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with that crazy thing that raised the cpu like a transformer

polar root
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that shit was 900$ a few years bac

thorny blaze
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Yup lol

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Granted used but still

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CPUs don’t really just die

polar root
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trying to find the video where i first saw x99

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wonder how old it is

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you remember that intel transformer/starwars thing?

thorny blaze
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Urm no

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I didn’t get into building PCs still about 2016

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Late 2015 maybe

polar root
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found it

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That was soooooo cool back then, now it’s 60$ ;/