#Good starter build?

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carmine ledge
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Not too bad but the motherboard isn’t great if you wanna overclock it’ll struggle pretty hard not to mention upgrading your cpu in the future. And also you have no cpu cooler.

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Don’t be afraid to buy a motherboard that may not have a updated bios for the 5600x as long as it is usb bios flash compatible you can flash it with no cpu

lilac yew
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5600 + cooler > 5600x

queen hill
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not too bad, the 5600 and 5600x are basically the same thing so you can save there and maybe go for a better power supply

lilac yew
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psu is good enough tbf

barren badger
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if you all have any specific recommendations let me know

lilac yew
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but he can stretch $20 and get an A-tier 750w unit for the future if he wants

queen hill
lilac yew
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that power supply isnt better tbf

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you can an A tier 750w unit for $6 more

queen hill
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oh yeah the hydro g

barren badger
lilac yew
lilac yew
barren badger
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it says the board isnt even compatible

queen hill
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thats a default thing pcpp says with most am4 boards

queen hill
lilac yew
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the 5600 was released way after the 5600x

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4/2022

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its safe to assume that all b450 boards will not be updated for it

queen hill
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i meant the b450 lol

lilac yew
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exactly

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its not updated

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the 5600 came out after the 5600x, some b450s may be updated for the x but 100% not the non-x

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and the board doesnt have bios flashback

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are u seeing the issue

nova parrot
nova parrot
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a520 wifi with beefy ass vrms

lilac yew
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👍

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it also has bios flashback and argb headers which is amazing for such a cheap board

barren badger
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would the 5600g be better than the 5600 cause it seems even that one is a couple dollars cheaper

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121 dollars compared to the 129 of the regular 5600

lilac yew
narrow heath
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the 5600g is not really a 5600. its based on the older architecture. the g indicates it has an APU though.

lilac yew
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5600g is closer to the 3600 in performance

barren badger
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alright

barren badger
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I'll need a cooler but I'll deal with that when the right time comes.

lilac yew
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i'm surprised there isnt a compatibility warning, that board should not have the 4/2022 bios update; probably pcpp tripping

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and it also lacks bios flashback

lilac yew
lilac yew
barren badger
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Alright I’ll see how it is

carmine ledge
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I would still Defo upgrade that board

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It has literally no vrm cooling which you’d be surprised how hot the inside of your case will get without them

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It won’t handle future upgrades very well

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If you wanna move to the 5700x-5800x I’m not sure if 4+2 is a good bet

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I’d at least try to shoot for about a $100 board. Gigabyte has some decent buys for the price

nova parrot
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its $89

lilac yew
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phantom gaming doesnt have flashback

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tuf would work the the prime ii is fine

lilac yew
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it doesnt completely lack heatsinks

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and upgrading on am4 is silly

carmine ledge
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Not true

lilac yew
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it is true

carmine ledge
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You can still find quality boards for a good price

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They’ve gotten a lot cheaper since am5 has came out

lilac yew
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no one is buying am4 currently with the intent of upgrading

carmine ledge
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That’s simply not true lol

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You’re acting like am4 is completely obsolete lol

lilac yew
carmine ledge
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Newegg literally constantly has sales on am4 boards lol

lilac yew
lilac yew
carmine ledge
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Their literally is lol

carmine ledge
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Honestly depending on their use case

lilac yew
nova parrot
lilac yew
lilac yew
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not the x

carmine ledge
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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-x570-pro4/p/N82E16813157886?item=N82E16813157886&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813157886&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid+shopping&utm_campaign=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813157886&id0=Google&id1=19141281834&id2=141459484262&id3=&id4=&id5=pla-896534948047&id6=&id7=9013452&id8=&id9=g&id10=m&id11=&id12=EAIaIQobChMInf_kmtzh_wIVdTHUAR0otQ8mEAQYAyABEgLdY_D_BwE&id13=Y&id14=Y&id15=&id16=639428055260&id17=&id18=&id19=&id20=&id21=pla&id22=8438988&id23=online&id24=N82E16813157886&id25=US&id26=896534948047&id27=&id28=&id29=&id30=5954078379027497415&id31=en&id32=&id33=&id34=&gclsrc=aw.ds&gbraid=0AAAAAD-YhmPKFYH666HGO1yQwxsRkjpAc&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInf_kmtzh_wIVdTHUAR0otQ8mEAQYAyABEgLdY_D_BwE

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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b550m-phantom-gaming-4/p/N82E16813157966?item=N82E16813157966&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813157966&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid+shopping&utm_campaign=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813157966&id0=Google&id1=19141281834&id2=141459484262&id3=&id4=&id5=pla-1393713429762&id6=&id7=9013452&id8=&id9=g&id10=m&id11=&id12=EAIaIQobChMInf_kmtzh_wIVdTHUAR0otQ8mEAQYCiABEgL_XvD_BwE&id13=Y&id14=Y&id15=&id16=639428055260&id17=&id18=&id19=&id20=&id21=pla&id22=8438988&id23=online&id24=N82E16813157966&id25=US&id26=1393713429762&id27=&id28=&id29=&id30=5954078379027497415&id31=en&id32=&id33=&id34=&gclsrc=aw.ds&gbraid=0AAAAAD-YhmPKFYH666HGO1yQwxsRkjpAc&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInf_kmtzh_wIVdTHUAR0otQ8mEAQYCiABEgL_XvD_BwE

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Those are on on sale….

lilac yew
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neither have flashback

carmine ledge
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You said nothing about flashback lol

lilac yew
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one is $50 above budget

lilac yew
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a requirement

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for this build

carmine ledge
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GIGABYTE B550 UD AC (AM4/ AMD/ B550/ ATX/Dual M.2/ SATA 6Gb/s/USB 3.2 Gen 2/ Intel 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/Realtek GbE LAN/PCIe 4.0/ Motherboard) https://a.co/d/8mX7icU

GIGABYTE B550 UD AC (AM4/ AMD/ B550/ ATX/Dual M.2/ SATA 6Gb/s/USB 3...

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Still a better board and only $30 more then the shitty b450

lilac yew
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doesnt fit in the case, out of budget

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literally nothing wrong with the prime a ii if he’s not going to upgrade (most people won’t)

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overspending on a dead chipset isnt wise imo

carmine ledge
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Simply buy a cheaper ATX case

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I guess

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But am4 is still worth spending money on lol

lilac yew
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not really lol

carmine ledge
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For a lot of people it still is lol. Ddr4 is stupid cheap

lilac yew
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ddr5 is stupid cheap

carmine ledge
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Am5 is still considerable more expensive lol. Am4 is still worth spending money on

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Until the cpu lineup prices drop anyway

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And the ram is still more expensive lol

lilac yew
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literally $20 more expensive atp

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board prices are low as well

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7600 is $220, crushes the 5700/5800x in single core, and even matches them in multi

carmine ledge
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And the 5800x3d still performs better in most games lol

lilac yew
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no they’re equal on average

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one is cheaper, infinitely easier to cool, and puts you on a better chipset

carmine ledge
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The 5800x3d is by no means hard to cool it can be cooled with a $50 tower cooler lol

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And you’re gonna up $70 less for a board and $30 less on average for ram

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And that’s only if you buy the minimum speed of ddr5 and the low end to mid tier am5 board

lilac yew
lilac yew
lilac yew
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and are by no means minimum speed lol

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you can even get a 7600 + rgb 5600 ram for $68 on newegg rn

carmine ledge
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At 32gb of ram?

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Literally no way

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Maybeeeee 16gb

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I haven’t seen a single kit of 32gb for less then $90 on ddr5

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New games are regularly using more then 16gb tho so I’d go with 32gb

lilac yew
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you could have just looked up the price yk

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instead of just making stuff up

carmine ledge
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I did lol

lilac yew
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mans has never heard of sort by low

carmine ledge
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So instead of spending $30 more on a nicer board with flashback, nicer vrms, and more pcie. just spend $200-300 more on the next gen

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Nice

lilac yew
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that wasnt even the argument or what i was trying to suggest lmao

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nice copium

carmine ledge
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You’ve been arguing the entire time it’s not worth upgrading a board on am4 instead upgrade to am5 cause am4 has no upgrade path lol bruh what

lilac yew
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you literally brought up the 5800x3d

carmine ledge
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All I was saying is don’t buy a dirt cheap board theirs no point

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I’m talking about originally 🤦🏼‍♂️

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Doesn’t seem like you understand how we got to this point lol

lilac yew
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its $30 more for no actual benefit

lilac yew
carmine ledge
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You literally get more pcie better vrm cooling and sometimes more usb

lilac yew
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the vrms are fine, pcie and usb on even low end boards is fine for 99% of people

carmine ledge
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I’m done arguing with you 🤦🏼‍♂️

barren badger
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ok can someone just tell me what board to get lmao

lilac yew
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$70

barren badger
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says ill need to upgrade the bios

lilac yew
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boards that dont have the button will require a compatible chip in order to update the bios, basically

barren badger
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ah

lilac yew
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its as simple as downloading the bios onto a usb drive and pressing the button

carmine ledge
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Sometimes you gotta rename them

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With gigabyte you do idk about Asus

hardy garden
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I recently built a system with a 5700x and B450 steel legend, it worked without any issues