#Hi I update to windows 10 and my pc slow what can i do?

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river beacon
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Hi I update to windows 10 and my pc slow what can i do?
Hi I update to windows 10 and my pc slow what can i do?

frail lynx
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What were you on before you updated to windows 10?

river beacon
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but i had to update

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because it said i didnt support the newer programs

frail lynx
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That's why

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Show me your hardware

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In task manager

river beacon
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Intel Core i7 4770K 3.50 ghz
MSI Xpower Z87
Corsair 450D
Nvidia 3D Graphics 780Ti
80gb storage
XSPC Rasa 750 Watercooling system
500gb storage
32gb ram

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its very old

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10 years old

frail lynx
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Yeah

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Actually

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Windows should run on that decently

river beacon
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my ram is 2400 CL10 (10-12-12-31)

frail lynx
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My estimation is the cpu

river beacon
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and my Motherboard is socket 1150

frail lynx
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It is 4th gen

river beacon
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okay

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the cpu is no good?

frail lynx
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I mean the hardware in general is slow

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But

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The CPU is very old

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And maybe better ram could help a bit

river beacon
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more ram?

frail lynx
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But your ram by far isn't the weakest link

river beacon
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how much is needed to update to windows 11

frail lynx
river beacon
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i sat the ram to the rated speeds which is

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2400 CL10 (10-12-12-31)

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I don't know if it overclocks more

frail lynx
river beacon
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maybe the cpu overclocks too?

frail lynx
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And faster ram

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Maybe look at the requirements for it and try to upgrade to those specs

river beacon
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ok i will try looking at overclocking it i think

frail lynx
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Overclocking winter help much

placid crescent
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80gb of storage???

frail lynx
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Your hardware is just really old

frail lynx
river beacon
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only the 80gb is showing

placid crescent
river beacon
frail lynx
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ntfs

river beacon
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the 500gb

placid crescent
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yeah misspelling lol

frail lynx
river beacon
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Its making a clicking noise so maybe i could pull it out and hit it with something?

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see if it goes back in place

placid crescent
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noooo

frail lynx
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Ok bro is just trolling

placid crescent
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dont do that

river beacon
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The 80gb is a intel

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ssd

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the other one is like

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not ssd

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and its clicking

frail lynx
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Intel makes ssd's?

placid crescent
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yeah

river beacon
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idk

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it says intel

placid crescent
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and motherboards

river beacon
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its 10 year old

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intel 80 gb ssd

frail lynx
river beacon
frail lynx
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No

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They click

river beacon
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i was thinking pull it out and hit it with a rubber hammer lightly

frail lynx
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No

river beacon
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yeah but i understnad it has to spin

frail lynx
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You'll kill it

river beacon
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but its like stuck

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thats why it doesn't show up

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well idk what to do then except buy a new drive

frail lynx
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That's not why

river beacon
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but my c drive has 21gb free

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isn't that enough?

frail lynx
frail lynx
placid crescent
river beacon
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I can hear its stuck

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guess can't do anything about it tho

frail lynx
river beacon
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The cooling system has mold or somthing inside

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pc was in storage for 7 years

novel grove
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a 4770k will run just fine on Windows 10

river beacon
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or something like that

river beacon
frail lynx
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Your hardware is too old for win10 and so old that win11 won't let you install it

placid crescent
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bruh this is just straight up troll

frail lynx
frail lynx
river beacon
placid crescent
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he is asking if he wants his moldy clicking computer to run on windows 10

frail lynx
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Nobody at home uses xp anymore kek

novel grove
frail lynx
placid crescent
river beacon
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its a xspc rasa 750 watercooler

frail lynx
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Trol

river beacon
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with a bay reservoir at the front of the case

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and when i came back to the pc

novel grove
river beacon
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there was so many bubbles in it

novel grove
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but he said he got an SSD

frail lynx
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80gb ssd

river beacon
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i put some more water in and it stopped but tubes are still yellow

river beacon
novel grove
river beacon
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there is a 500gb western digital green

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but its stuck

novel grove
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we still dont know what other stuff he has installed on that OS drive

river beacon
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i don't know how to unstuck it

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i asked like if i can slap it with somethying

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but people said no

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xd

frail lynx
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He thinks his hdd is stuck and wants to hit it with a hammer to unstuck it

river beacon
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its not a ssd so it has to spin and as long as it doesnt spin

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the 500gb one

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it won't show up

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probably just have to buy a new one

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i saw 1tb ssd costs $50

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today

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when this pc was there 10 years ago i think i paid $200 for 80 gb ssd

novel grove
river beacon
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yeah probably

frail lynx
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Look if you seriously aren't a troll my suggestion is get a new hdd or SSD. Clean or get a new water cooling system, and install Linux lite because Windows is too heavy and xp is too old

river beacon
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even a rubber hammer

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would be too much

frail lynx
placid crescent
frail lynx
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You can

river beacon
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because Linux I tried

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but after I click the iso file there isn't a setup.exe

frail lynx
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You can install Linux on a fucking 3ds

river beacon
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and Windows 11 says my system doesn't meet the requirements

frail lynx
river beacon
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i'm not sure if its the ram or the cpu

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Idc what you say is a troll post

frail lynx
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No longer responding

river beacon
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and i know this pc is dog old

frail lynx
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So is your brain kek

novel grove
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lmao

river beacon
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Surely your mom is alive

placid crescent
river beacon
frail lynx
novel grove
river beacon
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It wasn't that slow until i updated it to windows 10 thats the thing

placid crescent
river beacon
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i can see that a 1tb ssd today costs $50

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but will it even help at all?

frail lynx
river beacon
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it did in my contry 10 year ago

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Intel SSD 80 gb

placid crescent
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oh a ssd

river beacon
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Intel 320 Series 2.5" SSD 80GB 189€

placid crescent
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yeah but still now, 200$ can give you a better pc than what you currently have

river beacon
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189€ how much is that in usd?

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tell me

placid crescent
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slap in a gpu for another 50% and its still better

frail lynx
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Bro let the water cooling mold consume him

river beacon
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and remember 189€ in 2013 is the same as like 250€ today

placid crescent
river beacon
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in 2013 the euro was stronger than the USD too

placid crescent
river beacon
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thats what that ssd cost then

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not because im dumb and paid too much

novel grove
river beacon
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and the 500gb western digital hdd cost 50€

novel grove
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im rust on grammar, bare with me here

frail lynx
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To know about those prices

river beacon
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I could change ssd to 1tb for $50

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but would it help

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I think the 500gb drive is broken

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the hdd

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and the 80 gb ssd if thats too small

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but i still can't run windows 11 after buying a bigger ssd right?

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so do i need a new cpu too

novel grove
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according to this article

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80gb 159$ intel 320 ssds

river beacon
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where prices are higher

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because of tax and stuff

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so i gave 189€

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and $159 in 2013 = $200 in 2023 anyway

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it was just that expensive

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its not because im stupid

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idk

frail lynx
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Imma be honest I feel you can find a win10 capable PC for like €400

river beacon
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but thats not even going to be much faster than what i already have is it?

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i found one but it has core i5 4570

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I have core i7 4770k

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isn't mine bigger?

frail lynx
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Very much it will be faster

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Especially if it doesn't come with a gpu you can just use yours assuming your GPU isn't water cooled

river beacon
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okay

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my gpu isn't watercooled

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its only the cpu

novel grove
river beacon
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it has the xspc thing where underneath the dvd drive

frail lynx
novel grove
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Ryzen 5 4500 here is around 80usd, its Zen 2 for but 6c/12t its a killer - atleast comparing to other prices

novel grove
river beacon
frail lynx
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Ah ok

frail lynx
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Better and probably cheaper to get a new pc entirely at like bestbuy

novel grove
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Ryzen 5 4500 is the cheapest 6c/12t by a long shot here

river beacon
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what about the motherboard

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i will need a new one?

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or does MSI Z87 XPOWER

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no it doesn't work with amd

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so i need a new one

frail lynx
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Yeah

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Ur motherboard is old

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Idk if win11 would let you get past the spec requirements page even if the rest of your hardware was good

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Due to TPM shit

novel grove
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No one should even care about the Windows 11 TPM Requirement

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you can easily bypass it

frail lynx
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Yeah

novel grove
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except if youre playing Valorant on Windows 11, it requires TPM + Secureboot

river beacon
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is Intel core i5 7400 decent?

novel grove
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whats the pricing on that?

river beacon
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400€

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full pc

novel grove
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full pc ? no

frail lynx
novel grove
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I thought u gonna say just for the cpu ejsus

novel grove
river beacon
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the only thing i can upgrade to it seems like

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i7 5775C

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and core i7 4790K

placid crescent
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make a new post if you have a different question also pc builds is better to ask in #build-a-pc

river beacon
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but i dont know how to check if they are better than what i have

frail lynx
frail lynx
river beacon
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i7 5775C

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decent?

placid crescent
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ive never heard of a c model intel

frail lynx
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Old but yeah

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Wait C?

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Bro

novel grove
river beacon
frail lynx
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He is making his own Intel CPU line

placid crescent
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do you mean K?

novel grove
river beacon
frail lynx
novel grove
river beacon
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its the best that works in MSI Z87 Xpower

frail lynx
placid crescent
frail lynx
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Wow

placid crescent
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he can just get a used dell replace the psu put in a gpu and boom killer machine for cheap

frail lynx
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Ong

river beacon
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my pc already has a gpu and a psu

placid crescent
river beacon
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3D 780Ti and Corsair 1000 something

frail lynx
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Ur psu is bad and your GPU is eh

river beacon
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yea

frail lynx
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Oh

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1000w

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Uhh

placid crescent
frail lynx
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Why 1000w

river beacon
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Corsair AX1200i

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i think it says

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not sure

frail lynx
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Bro I going even higher

placid crescent
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ok yeah this is just troll his psu costs more than his entire system

river beacon
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its old af

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psu wasn't that expensive

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motherboard and cpu tho like 500€ each

placid crescent
river beacon
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and those are the parts that apparently have to be replaced

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sadge

river beacon
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i spent like 2700€ to build this pc

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10 years ago

frail lynx
river beacon
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2013

frail lynx
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No

novel grove
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I somewhat believe that the cpu is 500

river beacon
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mine is from 2013

frail lynx
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I found an article on it from 2012

river beacon
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well

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I bought it in 2013

novel grove
frail lynx
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If you're lucky

river beacon
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gpu was also like 800€

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and watercooling 300€

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idk

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and i coudlnte ven use it

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it had to be depoted

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like put in storage

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because of personal issues

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and by time i got back everyhting is outdated

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its depressing

novel grove
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oof 780Ti 800

river beacon
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i just use it for youtube and stuff now

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and some games

novel grove
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it was near MSRP to be fair

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699 according to TPU website

river beacon
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its the 3d model

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I had a 3d monitor with it too

novel grove
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3d model?

river beacon
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i think it was a special

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but not sure

novel grove
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I dont think you need a special gpu to run 3D..

river beacon
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maybe not

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idk

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if i change motherboard

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and cpu

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i have to change ram to ddr4

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so thats sadge

frail lynx
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By jove just get a newer PC kek

river beacon
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because i don't have the money

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i could get one of those 400€ ones

placid crescent
river beacon
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but im not sure how much it helps

frail lynx
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A lot

river beacon
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$113.33 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Portugal

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and that cpu isn't faster than what i have

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i found out

placid crescent
river beacon
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and it says windows 10 pro

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not 11

placid crescent
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11 is trash

river beacon
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seems like windows 11 is like 700€ and up

river beacon
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Core i5-8500 is not that good

frail lynx
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Win11 sucks ass

placid crescent
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dont buy a pc based on the operating system it has

placid crescent
frail lynx
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And yes

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It's a decent cpu

river beacon
placid crescent
river beacon
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so i was thinking its too much money to spend if this new PC will end up in the same condition I am in now with this one in 1 year

frail lynx
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4 generations newer

river beacon
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What if I overclock my cpu, does that help at all?

novel grove
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less thread but its a 6c/6t

frail lynx
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Not much

river beacon
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then i could save up more money

novel grove
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you get a arch improvement

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id say it still a better cpu than the old 4770

river beacon
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but not 8 times better?

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seems like 20% better

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doesn't it end up like this in 2 years then

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just like what I have now

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isn't it better to save up and get a new core i7 or something

frail lynx
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Bro

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Exadgeration

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It's a thing

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Not literally 8 times but it's much better

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@novel grove is he a troll or not troll

river beacon
frail lynx
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No

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You're not

river beacon
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that i could use to get something better

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700€ and up seems to be i7 10700 and windows 11

frail lynx
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And it's probably more than 20%

river beacon
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if I do this

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and go from 3.5ghz to 4.5ghz

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and buy a 1tb SSD for $50

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would that help?

placid crescent
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dont use userbenchmark to compare its a troll website

frail lynx
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I'm specifically talking about the top part

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82% better 84% 67%

novel grove
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Just interrogate him

frail lynx
river beacon
frail lynx
river beacon
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What if I overclock from 3.5ghz on this old cpu

frail lynx
river beacon
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to 4.5

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would that help?

frail lynx
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Not everything entirely

river beacon
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it would ?

frail lynx
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No

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Not by much

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A little but not too much

river beacon
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but if I buy a 400€ PC I won't have a GPU either

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they're all intel and onboard

frail lynx
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You can use your current gpu

river beacon
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would i just move this gpu over then

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and psu?

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or i guess i dont need the psu

frail lynx
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Idk about the psu

frail lynx
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I won't make that decision for you

frail lynx
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Dm it to me

placid crescent
frail lynx
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Ok

placid crescent
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your dms are off

frail lynx
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They are?

river beacon
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Today I'm simply sharing the settings and running a quick benchmark of my i7 4790k which was brought up to 5Ghz on water, while delidded. The motherboard which we used was a RoG from the z97 era, the Asus Maximus VII Hero

While at 5Ghz, the CPU was also handling 2133Mhz memory (Without tuning, we could have achieved 2400Mhz fairly easily with t...

▶ Play video
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i found this

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but

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its not the same model at all

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mine is 4770 that is 4790

frail lynx
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Why are you so focused on overclock

river beacon
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because its free

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i guess

placid crescent
river beacon
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and seems pretty small so i dont think my gpu would fit

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because my gpu iis really big

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tho i could just plant it in my old case i guess

placid crescent
river beacon
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because i had money then

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now i dont

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dont live at home anymore

river beacon
novel grove
frail lynx
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Yes

river beacon
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my gpu is really big

placid crescent
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or just take off the cover until you swap the case

river beacon
frail lynx
frail lynx
placid crescent
frail lynx
placid crescent
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4090

frail lynx
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A lot

river beacon
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i guess literally anything new

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?

frail lynx
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That's not hard to find

river beacon
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RTX 3050

frail lynx
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Anything new

river beacon
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expensive tho

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but

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if it lasts 10 years

frail lynx
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If your motherboard can even like use it's full powe

river beacon
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I mean a new one ofc

frail lynx
frail lynx
river beacon
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im not gonna use this one

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i was thinking if i buy a new pc

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like the one that got linked

frail lynx
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Ok

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Then yeah

placid crescent
frail lynx
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@placid crescent with that PC will a 3050 be bottlenecked by that cpu

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5600xt very good

placid crescent
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idk what he is even using the pc for so i cant respond to that

river beacon
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what if I just buy a ryzen 5 5600 and X570 motherboard and 32gb ddr4

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and put it into my old case

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and then put a new gpu in that

placid crescent
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yeah you can do that if your case is big enough

river beacon
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its very big

placid crescent
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idk what your case is

river beacon
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its actually a

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Corsair 900D

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full tower

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not midi tower

frail lynx
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@placid crescent you think you got this because I'm starting to be done with this

placid crescent
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he should ask #build-a-pc anyways this is the wrong channel