When I launch a game the monitor goes black

[unreal ice]

When I launch a game the monitor goes black

[lilac junco]

Sounds like the computer is crashing. What are the specs?

@unreal ice

[unreal ice]

r3 3300x 16gigs ddr4 gtx 1650 b550m

already did ddu with this driver https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/190552/en-us/

[lilac junco]

What settings are you generally running your games at?

[unreal ice]

usually everything on max that will give me 60+fps everything that gives me lower than 50 fps on max I play on lower settings

tho I dont play very performance hungry games I just play payday 2, csgo, war thunder, dont starve together,

unturned when im bored and GTA

[lilac junco]

Have you updated your drivers lately aside from DDUing the graphics driver?

[unreal ice]

tried for cpu and it says that there is no working ssd

and windows updates

[lilac junco]

Was that through AMD adrenaline?

[unreal ice]

amd website

[lilac junco]

Hmm

No working SSD as in storage SSD?

[unreal ice]

yes

tho i have 2 working ssd

[lilac junco]

Hmm, never seen that before

[unreal ice]

ill try it trough adrenalin

[lilac junco]

k

[unreal ice]

do i install everything or?

[lilac junco]

yeah

[unreal ice]

k

i have installed amd drivers

i have tried to launch war thunder and it black screened

but it restarted on its own now

[lilac junco]

K

[unreal ice]

it appears that windows updates had some errors so they didnt download

i will download them and update you if i still get blackscreens

also

my gpu fans have a weird buzzing noise

[lilac junco]

Do they still spin?

[unreal ice]

yes

tho only one of the fans makes the noise

[lilac junco]

Should be fine as long as they still cool the card

[unreal ice]

they do

[lilac junco]

K

[unreal ice]

the noise isnt the problem but the problem is if it dies cuz i had the same issue with a fan in my old laptop it was buzzing and it died

[lilac junco]

Just keep an eye on it, and if it does die, its an excuse to upgrade to a 2060 super or something

[unreal ice]

i mean if it dies i will just RMA and on the summer break will probably upgrade to maybe 3070 ti or RTX 4070 ti if the prices fall

[lilac junco]

Max your CPU can handle is a 2060 Super, so if you want to go 30 or 40 series, you will have to upgrade your CPU as well

[unreal ice]

well i was wondering to get a 7 5800x3d or 9 5900 or just sell the cpu and the mother board and go intel

[lilac junco]

I have a 7 3700X and it handles a 5600XT pretty well

Got it from my dad, who had it paired with a 3080

[unreal ice]

the payday 2 has been running for like an hour without blackscreen so its good for now

[lilac junco]

K, so it was just out of date drivers

[unreal ice]

damn thats nice

[lilac junco]

Yeah

[unreal ice]

maybe

[lilac junco]

Hopefully

[unreal ice]

after the windows update if the there are any more blackscreens I will just RMA

[lilac junco]

I would keep this thread open just in case anything else comes up

[unreal ice]

yep

idk maybe its the motherboard PCIe problem

because when I first got a blackscreen I re installed the gpu in the PCIe slot and it worked

for a bit

i have one available slot shall I try that if the windows update dosent fix it

[lilac junco]

The bottom slot is slower

I think how it works in the top slot is X16, the bottom slot is X8 or something like that

[unreal ice]

one site says that on the bottom is an full length X4 slot and the versus says that is the X16 PCIe 3.0 slot

wait i have a question that isnt on the topic of this thread

if i wanted to make a minecraft server or a server for a game do i need a gpu for that

[lilac junco]

I'm not into server stuff, so idk

[lilac junco]

What motherboard is it?

[unreal ice]

Gigabyte B550M DS3H

rev. 1.x

[lilac junco]

The bottom slot is a X4, according to the manual

The top slot is the only X16 on the motherboard

[unreal ice]

damn

[lilac junco]

Those updates finished?

[unreal ice]

one of them

there were 3

now is 2

[lilac junco]

k

[unreal ice]

danm

[unreal ice]

how many watts is the power supply you run?

it could be your graphics card not being able to output video because you’re at max wattage after launching a game

[unreal ice]

650W

and the TDP of the gpus is only 75W

[unreal ice]

this might sound weird but you should try reseating your gpu

thats what was wrong with my pc when i was having the same issue

[unreal ice]

well that was the first thing that I did

maybe if I make the pc lay on its side?

and reseat the gpu again maybe it will work

@lilac junco @unreal ice i might have found an issue

[lilac junco]

Yeah, that'll do it

Not much left of that black wire

I'm surprised that didn't trip a breaker

[unreal ice]

i have second psu cable the "broken one" is rated for 10A-16A and 250V the second one is rated for 10A 250V

should I still use the second calbe

damn now that i see that the black wire isnt isolated now im not sure to buy more stuff from that store

[lilac junco]

yeah

as long as it isn't damaged its fine

[unreal ice]

well that tidint work

and the gpu will ramp up the fans to 80-100% when it black screens

[unreal ice]

well the windows update is sutck like this

for like the past 10min

[lilac junco]

Is it showing a restart button anywhere?

[unreal ice]

nope

well the cpu might be dead

[lilac junco]

Try restarting the computer

[unreal ice]

the fan would spin but its trying to spin

the power button is un responsive

do i just switch the power supply switch

[lilac junco]

Did you press and hold the power button?

[unreal ice]

still holding it

[lilac junco]

Yeah, use the switch

[unreal ice]

the cpu fan tried to spin

[lilac junco]

trying to power it back on now?

[unreal ice]

the psu fan is spinning

it magicly turned on

and it crashed again

[lilac junco]

BSoD or just black screen?

[unreal ice]

now is in recovery mode

[lilac junco]

Ok, tell it to boot to windows and see what it does

[unreal ice]

blackscreen

the recovery mode blackscreened

[lilac junco]

Hmm

Do you have another computer you can take parts from?

[unreal ice]

sadly not

[lilac junco]

Damn

[unreal ice]

what part is needed

[lilac junco]

Not sure

[unreal ice]

well from blackscreening in games to blackscreeneng when the browser starts up

[lilac junco]

But I'm guessing it may be a power supply

[unreal ice]

it is a white power supply

[lilac junco]

Corsair?

[unreal ice]

the old power supply color

this color

there are no marking on the psu

from the back panel side

sould i just leave it for the RMA or try to see if there are marking on the other side

@lilac junco

[lilac junco]

I gtg afk for a bit sadly

Take it out and see if there are markings on it

[unreal ice]

overvoltage might be the issue the psu is rated for AC 230V and the cable is 250V

never heard of the company in my life

[lilac junco]

I haven't either

I would have a local computer repair store test it, but I'm guessing that right there is your issue

[unreal ice]

well imma go to sleep now i will keep this open

or we can take it tio dm

[lilac junco]

I would keep it in here just in case anyone else has any insight on this

'Night

[unreal ice]

well the cable needs to be 10A-16A

for the pc to actually be stable in the os

never mind the thing isnt stable at all

[unreal ice]

ill see if i have any multimeter s in my house or if neighbours have one to see if its undervolting

[unreal ice]

no fucking way that the god damn problem was that the 4pin cpu and 24pim motherboard cables were not seated correctly

well thanks guys for help @lilac junco @unreal ice

[lilac junco]

Really? Huh, dunno How we missed that.

[lilac junco]

No problem!

[unreal ice]

well

[lilac junco]

No more black screens?

[unreal ice]

cool for helping

[unreal ice]

do you have any recommendations for pc fans cuz i dont have any in my case

@lilac junco

[lilac junco]

Not really

I've heard good things about Noctua though

[unreal ice]

noctua fans are great but no store in my country sells it

actually there is

[unreal ice]

also the pc crashed again and I reseated the cpu and it works fine tho i didnt tested it in games

and took one ram stick out

actually i tested the game but i dont remember if it crashed again with one ram stick and a reseated cpu

[unreal ice]

ok so after some tests i have concluded that is either a motherbard/cpu ram controler problem or the ram stick is causing the issue so i started a windows memory diagnostics tool

[unreal ice]

idk how but

[next quail]

Hi, out-of-ballpark-question, but is the outlet grounded?? My mom's PC had huge and very weird problems when this was not the case..

And if you want to use a PC for a Minecraft server and connect from anothr, you don't need more than onboard gfx.. Minecraft server is command line..

You do need a decent amount of memory tho..

Don't worry about the powercord, it is rated to handle 10 to 16A and 250V max, those are limits, not what the powercord actually delivers.. 🙂

[unreal ice]

the outlet is grounded, is gt 1030 enough and is 16gigs enough for a Minecraft server, thats good to know. thanks

also im 99% sure that this stick in B2 slot is faulty cuz i tested with 16gigs after 10min it will blackscreen with a faulty stick in B2 and A2 slots it will blackscreen after 1-2min of driving around in a roblox game

with a stick that was originally in A2 slot its stable and it can go 40+ min in games without blackscreen

[vocal ether]

Ok so replace it and use memtest86

Instead of windows tool

And test that stick only and let it run 4 passes

[unreal ice]

do install only the faulty stick or with both sticks

[vocal ether]

Faulty stick only

And run the memtest

Cost some time so could be it takes 2 hours

It goes through all possibilities of the ram like 0 and 1 ‘s

[unreal ice]

do i really need an usb stick cuz i dont have a sing usb stick and not sure if there are any stores open to this time that sell usb sticks

[vocal ether]

Yes

Or maybe the motherboard has a build in memtest86

Some do not all

Just checj within the bios

[unreal ice]

ok

[vocal ether]

If that’s not the case it’s usb stick time 🕰️

[unreal ice]

where specificly in bios to look

[vocal ether]

Yes

As in everywhere

[unreal ice]

nowhere to be found

but give me a secónd

might have found a fix

nevermind

[unreal ice]

cant i use this

UNetBootin

with this you make a partition on your ssd/hdd and you can choose from which partiton to boot

wanted to use this on my old laptop to see how would it be to run ubuntu cuz my old laptop would sometimes struggle with win10

and now the ssd from my laptop is in this pc and im to lazy to remove this

[unreal ice]

this pc is cursed

[unreal ice]

the not faulty stick started blackscreaning

[lilac junco]

You may just want to take the entire thing into a computer repair store and have them look at it

[unreal ice]

well i do have warranty on the all components except the boot ssd

[unreal ice]

does the motherboard chipset have anything to do with memory control

[lilac junco]

I think so, but don't quote me on that

[unreal ice]

when it blackscreens it heats up just barely

[unreal ice]

well i will reset the pc to factory settings maybe that helps

[unreal ice]

well the blackscreen is still there but my storage issue isnt

[unreal ice]

after a minute of blackscreening the chip heats up for roughly 5°c but take it with the grain of salt

[unreal ice]

what if its a boot drive

[brittle loom]

Does the computer still display a black screen if you alt+tab out of the game window?

Some games fuck with the resolution of the monitor (specifically valve games) so if your monitor doesn't support the resolution it's being told to run at it could display no signal

[unreal ice]

pc is unresponsive when it blackscreens and when i log in to pc it blackscreens

the monitor(tv) is rated to 1920x1080

60fps

[brittle loom]

Right, but some valve games start at a much lower resolution until the settings ingame are fixed.
Though I doubt this is the issue so I'll shut up

[unreal ice]

have any idea if a x16 or x8 card work in a x4 slot

[brittle loom]

They do work in those slots but they will not have as much bandwidth as they would with an x16 (So slower basically)

[unreal ice]

than ill test if the x16 slot is broken

[unreal ice]

are there any latches or things to secure usb 3.2 front io cable

or is it tough to remove

[brittle loom]

I don't think there are any standard usb A or usb C cables that have locking abilities so its probably just tough

[unreal ice]

talking abt this cable

[brittle loom]

ahhh, no there shouldn't be any locks on that one

It is always tough to remove

Just be sure to pull straight out, and maybe support the motherboard so you don't bend it too much

[unreal ice]

can i tug the cable left and right

to pull it out more easily

[brittle loom]

You can wiggle it a little bit, but no more than like, 2-3 degrees?

[unreal ice]

yeah 2-3°

[brittle loom]

Should be okay

[unreal ice]

damn the most hellish port to disconnect

[brittle loom]

Honestly

[unreal ice]

i have good news and bad news

i managed to boot into bios

when i booted into the system it wont display

[unreal ice]

do i need to do anything in bios to make the gpu "compatible" with a x4 slot

[brittle loom]

I'm sorry I kind of walked into the middle of the conversation today, and there are over 200 messages that I don't necessarily want to read to get caught up.
Could you give a quick summary about what the issue is and what you have tried?

[unreal ice]

no problem

[brittle loom]

Also some motherboards have a BIOS setting where you need to tell it which PCIE slot is the default one.
Also check to make sure that it's actually enabled in bios, it may be using integrated graphics (if you have them)
you can quickly check to see if that is the case by plugging your display into your motherboard

[unreal ice]

i wanted to play a game and the pc blackscreened, tried restarting same issue, tried drivers and updateds same issue, tried reseating the gpu it worked for a 30min, tried re seating the cables again got 30min of playing and same issue, tried reseating the cpu and switching ram.it work ed for 30min, again tried the ram no help, again tried the cpu no help, tried the boot drive when it started blackscreening in windows couldnt install the windows on the D drive, and before that tried reseating the cpu again also no help, and now the x4 slot

also i can see through the termal paste the word ryzen on my cpu is that weird with termal paste or normal

[brittle loom]

This was right after you removed the CPU cooler?

[unreal ice]

yes

do i need to lock the gpu with the screws if the pc is on the side

[brittle loom]

No, you only need to screw it in when you're finished working on it.

[unreal ice]

found the PCIe slot thing

also forgot to say that i tried all combinations with all 4 ram slots

[unreal ice]

^^

[brittle loom]

Yeah that looks fairly normal.
Was that preapplied thermal paste?
Looks like a little more could be used to get those outside edges filled in.

[unreal ice]

not sure

its a pre build

[brittle loom]

Ah

[unreal ice]

tho i do have cooler master thermal paste

[brittle loom]

Yeah you'll need to reapply that when/if you ever get it running again.
But for now that should be fine for testing

[unreal ice]

i dont have any ethenol or medical gasoline to remove thermal paste

[brittle loom]

You can eventually work it off with just elbow grease

It just takes a lot more effort

[unreal ice]

destiled water?

or acetone?

[brittle loom]

Not sure if that would really help as it's grease, but I was just talking about dry paper towels.
Acetone may work, I'd google it though to make sure it's safe for CPU

[unreal ice]

i have "cotton pads" and i would use destiled water just for lubrication or something like that if you understand me

[brittle loom]

Yeah you can definitely give it a go, but we're not at that step yet.

[unreal ice]

flower cooler

no way it booted

[brittle loom]

So the only thing changed since last time is the BIOS PCIE slot setting?

[unreal ice]

that

and i swaped places of memory sticks

the faulty one is now in place of the working one and im using only the faulty stick

so only 8gb of ram

ill install the drivers now

because i didnt have time to install driver cause of blackscreens after i log in

[brittle loom]

Good luck

[unreal ice]

the same time after i clicked express installation it blackscreens

[brittle loom]

How long after you clicked?
A blackscreen is normal on driver installation for a little while

[unreal ice]

when i clicked

and the fans ramped up to 100%

the normal thing when it blackscreens

[brittle loom]

Right. Yeah I'm not sure then.

[unreal ice]

well custom installation with 16gigs seems to work as planned

blackscreened for the install

how it should

audio works

[brittle loom]

Any other issues so far?

[unreal ice]

except from the pain of logining into everysingle program no

and minecraft finally works

installation*

is there a way to disable microsoft edge

[brittle loom]

You can change your default browser to something else but no you can't disable edge.

[unreal ice]

can i use anything else for searchbar on windows

like if i click enter on something and it opens edge

[brittle loom]

I don't know about that one, but my gut answer is no

[unreal ice]

well it worked untill it stopped

[unreal ice]

if the cpu controls all components and motherboard controls where power goes might be those 2 the problem the conclusion for this is the fans try to spin and they wont spin they will try to spin or go back and forward 1° of rotation not that fast but fast

and the power button wont turn off the pc

[unreal ice]

i didnt see any artifacts tho

but before this

like 2 weeks before this the games stutter some times

the game and the whole pc audio

[vocal ether]

yeah thats probably possible
Did you try? : https://www.google.com/homepage/search/sp-edge-p.html