#Liquid CPU cooler dying?

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autumn grove
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so i have had my kraken liquid cooler for a good amount of years and my temps are creeping higher and higher and now my system has frequent freezes and bluescreens and the tamps are quite high like idle at 60's and it only bluescreens in heavy games it has to be said i do have an i9 9900k which i have heard is especially toasty, so what should i do?

rare sedge
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idle temps don't mean anything, what are the temps when you game?

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set up a monitoring program and record it

autumn grove
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have not checked in quite a while any program you recommend for that? and what sorta game is cpu intensive?

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and can temps even cause bluescreens?

rare sedge
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HWINFO64 is the gold standard I think, for system monitoring in windows

autumn grove
rare sedge
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On the bottom right

autumn grove
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i have also had to underclock my cpu to 4.4

rare sedge
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It just prompts you for a file to save log data to

autumn grove
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i dont see that button

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found it

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okay so now i have started it, should i then just start up a game?

rare sedge
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Intel XTU is another decent monitoring tool since you have an intel cpu

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Do you have a second screen?

autumn grove
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technically yes, but not really as i dont have space for it

rare sedge
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So, it exists, but it's just not connected, ok

autumn grove
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yes

rare sedge
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It'd just make monitoring easier, to put the temp sensors on one screen, game on the other

autumn grove
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well can i not see all the stats on the logging?

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when i have finished

rare sedge
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You can, but you won't see them until later when you look at them, so there's no real time data

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I'm sure some software does this with an overlay, but I don't know about that

autumn grove
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hmm i see

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what would i look for to begin with, like what signs are there

rare sedge
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Anyway, leave the log running and start a game that causes crashes.

autumn grove
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well its intermitten had it happen yesterday and today with two different games

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so i dont really know when

rare sedge
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you said you had to underclock it, what did you do exactly?

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and why?

autumn grove
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and if it crashes wil i just not loose the log?

rare sedge
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the log gets saved constantly, it'll record things right up until a crash

autumn grove
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well i went into the bios and changed the speed from first 4.7 which is started at to first 4.6 for a while and now 4.4

autumn grove
rare sedge
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yeah.. that's how logs work :)

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Intel says base clock for 9900K is 3.4, max boost is 5.0

autumn grove
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i guess then im gonna go back to bios and set it back up where it was and then just start playing, see if it crashes, not really much else i can do then

autumn grove
dry idol
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Well if you had it for a few years, it might be time to replace it? 🤔
Since it might get clogged up after a while

rare sedge
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Ah yep, it'll only boost as high as it has room for, since it's measuring the temperature

autumn grove
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but can temps even cause a bluescreen?

rare sedge
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usually no, if a cpu overheats it just shuts down, no bluescreen

autumn grove
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should i maybe set the boost clock to auto if that exists so it maybe can underclock itself if it needs to?

rare sedge
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I'd try auto, yep

autumn grove
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is there a way i can see why it did a bluescreen?

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im not super technical

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i have heard about a eventviewer but i dont know if thats it

rare sedge
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Every bluescreen has a code on it, it's a vague error reference that you can look up

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It's vague, but it can point you to the right direction

autumn grove
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damnit, im gonna try setting it on auto to begin with, and if it keeps bluescreening then ill take more drastic meassures i guess

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cause only happens when i game in intensive games

rare sedge
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Event viewer is another tool that you can look at, to figure out what's going on.

autumn grove
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yeah i just have no idea how to read that xD

vivid panther
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in event viewer specifically you would want to go to windows logs > system

rare sedge
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Basically it's a windows internal tool that lets you view events. And events are programs or system misbehaving.

autumn grove
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hmm i will look into it then

rare sedge
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There's usually not much info in event viewer, but if you have a critical error with code 41, that points to a sudden power loss. So either the psu failed to deliver enough amps or the cpu shut itself down.

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you can sort the events by date and time, and look at what happened when you crashed.

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I wouldn't worry about the event viewer now. First check your temps while you have a game running.

autumn grove
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i found the bsodlog file from today

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what do i do with it

rare sedge
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You can use that to view minidump files

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or upload the minidump here (it's tiny), for us to have a look at it

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We're mainly interested in the error code in the bluescreen

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plus the circumstances when it happened

autumn grove
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okay i got the program what now

rare sedge
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open it, the default location should work to view your minidumps

autumn grove
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these are the two i had in same file one today and one yesterday

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fail wrong file

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there we go xD

gray inlet
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you've tested the ram with memtest86?

autumn grove
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no? i mean it cant be the ram they are practically brand new

gray inlet
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so, I had rma'd ram that lasted two days before it started throwing errors.

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and that was the second rma of that set.

autumn grove
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if its the ram then that would be after the rma ended

rare sedge
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Windows threw up an error about memory, so that's your clue. It doesn't matter if it was bought yesterday.

autumn grove
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will the memtest program show if its that

gray inlet
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ram is technically lifetime rma

rare sedge
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It might, memtest takes a long time to run though, so do it overnight

autumn grove
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how do i even open the program

gray inlet
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download it unzip it use the program to "burn" it to usb run the usb like a windows install usb

autumn grove
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could it be that its ceuse i have 2 sticks in that are there only to add rgb, like they have no actualy ram, its something i got with my old pair of ram purely for astetics could that be screwing with it

gray inlet
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nope

rare sedge
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There's a readme.txt as usual, with full instructions.

autumn grove
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i dont have a usb to burn

gray inlet
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they are cheap ¯_(ツ)_/¯

autumn grove
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not after i just have gotten a new screen

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but so its sure that its my memory

rare sedge
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how did you even install windows without a usb..

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well, it's indicative of a memory issue

autumn grove
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well i had one, it was a sd card into a sd card reader usb but i cant find it and have not been able to for about 2 years

rare sedge
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running memtest would confirm or deny the assumption

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But your issue sounds like a memory problem, random crashes in apps that are memory intensive.

autumn grove
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got damn it all, i guess ill look for it, but if not them im kinda screwed

rare sedge
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usb sticks are like <$10 no?

gray inlet
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yeah that was my they are cheap comment. heh

rare sedge
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you should have a couple at hand anyway, just in case your pc shits itself and you need to reinstall

autumn grove
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first of all im in denmark so + 25% second its more the principle of getting something i already should have somewhere and it maybe not even being it

rare sedge
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And I'm in Finland, don't talk to me about expensive electronics :P

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it's still under 10€

autumn grove
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fair, but i usually dont have money on hand

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for tech

rare sedge
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Anyhoo, my suggestion is, run the memtest, you'll know more after it's done.

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Random crashes are tricky to pinpoint, but that's our only clue right now.

autumn grove
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yea, and here i thought it was temps, no... its much worse

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damn it

rare sedge
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If you crash again, look up the hwinfo log as well, and see what the temps were.

autumn grove
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yea