How to remove the Power Throttle Limit on Dell Inspiron 7577?

[cinder pasture]

So i'm trying to solve this issue for like a few months. I have a Dell Inspiron 7577 laptop (1050 Ti, 16 GB RAM version.) but sad part is i can not play games on it. My problem is, when my CPU temperature hits 74 celcius, my CPU clock speed goes down to 0.79 GHz and because of that, my games running at like 3 - 5 FPS with very laggy situation. I've tried many things to escape from this power throttle limit but i couldn't be successful about it. So i wanted to ask here. Let me type things i've tried:

• Downgrading BIOS version to 1.9.3 (It's my current BIOS version right now.)

• Undervolting CPU via ThrottleStop.

• Changing "Turbo Boost Power Max" value to 50W from 45W in XTU.

• Deleting "esif manager.info_amd64... " and "dptf acpi.inf_amd64... " folders in "C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository"

• Enabling "Speedshift" and disabling "Speedstep" in ThrottleStop.

• Ticking "Disable and Lock Turbo Power Limits" checkbox in FIVR section of ThrottleStop.

• Making a bad sector test to my 1 TB HDD and 128 GB SSD using the HD Tune Pro application. (No bad sectors seen.)

Please help me. I want to play games on my device but i can not because of this power limit. Please save me from this suffer.

[naive crest]

I had a look on Intel site, TJ max is 100c, so I'd have thought it should only start thottling around 95c

Oh, nvm, so it's not thermal throttling hmm

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-manage-power-throttling-windows-10

This might help, it looks like it's something to do with Windows power settings?

You could also play around with this utility - https://coderbag.com/product/quickcpu

Disable core parking, but there is a lot of other things you can do too

[willow kayak]

Doesn’t look like a « fresh » device, you could try cleaning the internal and re-pasting the cpu & gpu

Also I have heard some good from users of fan-stand for laptops

[azure talon]

It’s not really a reposting problem

My laptop has an i5 1235U and it does the same throttling

I think it’s related to the laptop not having enough power to enter that PL2 boost state

Because it only heats up to like 50 degrees without fans fully spinning

On cinebench

@naive crest how much power does your power brick supply

For the laptop

[cinder pasture]

mine is 130W

[naive crest]

I don't have a laptop currently, I believe the question was for k_carmZ

[cinder pasture]

it didn't work 😕

[naive crest]

Hmm

I think maybe it needs to be set at 100%?

[cinder pasture]

idk

you guys have any idea what is blocking my laptop performance ?

[low lynx]

set speedshift to 1 and change power limit

[cinder pasture]

how

i mean what should i do to do it

[low lynx]

I haven't used it since 2016 so I'm sorry I can't help

try asking on their forum

[cinder pasture]

i already did

no answer

[low lynx]

there's also the techsupport subreddit

[cinder pasture]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1477966-how-to-remove-the-power-throttle-limit-on-dell-inspiron-7577

[low lynx]

just say you need to change the power limit

[cinder pasture]

oh

[low lynx]

throttlestop forum?

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forums/throttlestop.93/

[cinder pasture]

i didn't ask there

lemme try

[low lynx]

some of the devs are there too

[cinder pasture]

i opened a thread in forum

[warped onyx]

What is the total wattage drawn by the CPU when the power limit kicks in?
You didn't mention it specifically, but did you enable High Performance mode in windows energy settings?

[cinder pasture]

i don't know first questions answer but i enabled high performance mode in power settings

how can i see value of watt drawn when limit kicks in ?

i also tried disabling speedstep in bios but didn't solve problem

[warped onyx]

HWInfo64 is a great tool

[azure talon]

Oh my bad

[willow kayak]

Oh that’s a crappy firmware imposing stupid limit to the cpu then indeed

Did you try following steps in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhXIiBPJseI ? I have serious doubt about the « power off and not reboot » sentence but it does detail how to install a driver to tweak power limits

[cinder pasture]

can i try this also?

[willow kayak]

It was for you 😂

[cinder pasture]

lol

lemme try

[cinder pasture]

can u help i couldn't find the right TDP value to set in throttlestop. my cpu is intel i7-7700 hq

[azure talon]

It’s from Samsung lol

They aren’t the best with laptops in term of BIOS and that stuff

But the laptop is good for college and watching videos so yeah

[willow kayak]

No idea It will depend on the thermal headroom of your laptop

[cinder pasture]

oh

i tried 70 but still power throttles

[azure talon]

maybe try TDP level control and manually set it

[azure talon]

idk what happened but i thought id do the same cinebench runs i did with it to test

no more power limit and the score went to an all time high without even using high power plan

the CPU went from sitting at 0.9ghz to 3100Mhz pcore and like 1800+ mhz E core

didnt touch throttlestop either

22 watts boost power

on high power plan

[stark pier]

Sounds like you may need to repaste and remount your cooler.

[azure talon]

It’s a brand new laptop

Oh wait yire talking to OP. Maybe

This power throttling is weird. It just kicked back in for me

When plugged in ATM the PL1 power limit is 8 watts and PL2 is 20 watts

When I unplug it, the PL1 goes to 15 watts and pl2 is 28 watts

Yesterday plugged in it was 18-28 or something

[willow kayak]

Huh shitty firmware ..
Or powerbrick issue, usb-c pd negotiations might be off ?

[cinder pasture]

Are answers for my problem ?

I mean on forum a throttlestop ceo replied to my post he said there is no solution for this sell ur device

[cinder pasture]

here

what should i do guys ??

[azure talon]

Perhaps

It’s the Samsung included PD brick

I’d argue it’s not the brick but who am I to speak when I got no idea what it is

All I know is that yesterday I got performance out of it that IVE NEVER ever thought I could get

[willow kayak]

I have seen some weird stuff, laptop unable to boot while having usb-c power, but since the battery was too low he apparently wasn’t able to even negotiate enough to boot .

Love usb-ce but the stuff feel wonky sometimes

[cinder pasture]

[azure talon]

Exactly what he said…

[cinder pasture]

so selling the device ?

[azure talon]

if you really need that performance then yes id do it