#My almost finished setup. still some stuff to do, but going itx was the best idea ever

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deep sapphire
ocean canopy
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Specs bro?

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Clean your glass or get the huge ltt mouse pad to cover it

chilly river
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What case?

deep sapphire
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Rtx 3090 fe, ryzen 5 5600x, 32 gb ddr4 3600er corsair vengeance rgb ram, NR200 P max with the 280 aio und 850w gold sfx psu by Coolermaster, 2 Noctua NF-A12x15 PWM (swapping to chromax black ones) , aorus b550i pro ax, 2x 1 tb samsung evo 980er m.2 ssd, pcie 4.0 riser cable, k60 by corsair with custom keycaps, corsair virtuoso rgb headset, gpro wireless maus, ROG mousepad, blue yeti with boomarm, 170 hz wqhd acer nitro

deep sapphire
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@chilly river NR200 P MAX

ocean canopy
deep sapphire
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@ocean canopy what? :C

ocean canopy
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Did you plan ur build?😅

chilly river
chilly river
ocean canopy
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Why the hell would you pair a 5600x budget cpu with a 3090

ocean canopy
chilly river
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Funny

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Calling 5600x budget

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Did you know that games don’t use more than 6 cores?

ocean canopy
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Oh jeez

chilly river
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Did you know that higher resolutions put a lot more stress on the gpu?

ocean canopy
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İ know thats not the point

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İ dont even know his usecase i am simply talking about pairing a highend gpu with a budget cpu and don't try to convince me that the 5600x isn't going to bottleneck the 3090

chilly river
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I won’t try to convince you since your 4 braincells clearly can’t understand it but it’s true

ocean canopy
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Cuz building on what you are saying there is no need for a 5995 right?

ocean canopy
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İt is not just cores there's speed too and other than that he didn't even mention that he only games on this

chilly river
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I would assume he is

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And yes, speed would be pretty important, but not as much at higher res

ocean canopy
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Well there isn't anything to argue about i agree on that too

chilly river
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“Budget” cpus are a myth

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There is just what you need at every price point

ocean canopy
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12400f is reality

chilly river
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More expensive than 5600

ocean canopy
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Yeah so it's budget

chilly river
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Calling a 5600 budget when it can handle 4k graphics with a really high end card is weird

ocean canopy
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Well the 5600x isn't an overkill forsure. İts budget it matches his needs

ocean canopy
chilly river
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Yes, it’s budget, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s good

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And enough

ocean canopy
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Budget doesn't mean bad😅

chilly river
ocean canopy
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Ok i said it's budget not bad

chilly river
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Implies it being bad

ocean canopy
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Like dude chill i meant that the highest end 3090 feels wrong when paired with mid level cpu

chilly river
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Why should a good combo feel wrong

ocean canopy
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Uhh

chilly river
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5700x + 3060 is more wrong

ocean canopy
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Yeah it is well depending on the use case

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Oh i can see from where your coming

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Let me explain what i mean

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5600x cpu is relatively cheaper and weaker than other high end cpus whilst the 3090 is the absolute best and is way more expensive than the 3080ti which is with alittle performance difference has a way better pricing. So if some picks a "relatively cheaper cpu" you don't expect them to buy the second most expensive gpu

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İf we look from that aspect you could have a very good gpu performance at a more reasonable price with this combo 5600x+3080ti

chilly river
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No, 5600 + 3080

deep sapphire
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Very interesting discussion- i wanna throw my thoughts in. I built the system originally with a 3070ti , since it was a decent deal at the time (unlike the 3090- which originally, at the time of building the pc, was sitting at a cool 1600€ or 1500$)
For my usecase, and the overall build, i was certain i wouldnt need the best am4 had to offer, and since i wanted something affordable - 5600 x was my go to.
The ryzen 5 5600x also doesnt run very hot, and offered me very good Performance for the price i paid. And since my case is kinda tiny, heat (and noise for that matter) where a concern for me.
I also upgraded masively with this build, replacing my msi gaming Laptop from 2014, with a 960 m and some Intel i7- aka- anything higher specced would have been a massive upgrade.

I rocked with the 3070ti for arround half a year, until i got a insanely good offer by a friend, who upgraded to 4090 and wanted to sell the 3090. Thats why 3090 with the budget oriented 5600x.

My usecase is mostly office work and gaming, where the ryzen is perfect, as my fans dont need to spin at 100% all the time. I added the noctuas at the bottom for when iam gaming, as the gpu gets warm- but with those two its actually pretty manageble.

I thought about an upgrade as am4 is at the end of the cycle, and iam kinda torn between options, as iam not sure whether ryzen 7 5800 x3d as a gaming monster or ryzen 9 5950 x is the better option.
Maybe you can give me some insight! Thx anyway for the interesting discussion!!
@chilly river @ocean canopy

chilly river
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Such a good cpu for gaming

deep sapphire
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Thats what i heard- bit worried bcs of temps tho

chilly river
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Peerless assassin 120 se is a great cooler for it

ocean canopy
ocean canopy
deep sapphire
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😄

untold coral
celest stone
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My buddy has a 5600x and a 3090 for the last year and a half on 1440p. He's had no CPU issues whatsoever. I've also tried 5600x on my 3090 and had zero issues. I now have a 7950x and a 3090 for 1440p and I don't notice a big performance increase from 5600x for gaming. I just need the 7950x to do actual work on it.

ocean canopy
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He uses it in productivity too

celest stone
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Office work does not utilize any CPU

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To a reasonable degree at least

ocean canopy
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Bro did you read the whole message he said that he originally paired it with a 3070 ti which is reasonable

celest stone
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Yes I did. Does it matter though? Unless if you're running 1080 or 720 the 5600x does not get bottlenecked

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I'd upgrade from a 70ti to a 90 too if I had the chance and keep the 5600x if I run 1440p

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If it works why replace it

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Especially in an sff build

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Same idea with the guy that built a 13600k and 4090

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If you don't need the extra power why waste it as heat in a sff build

ocean canopy
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It isn't about that jeez i wont go through the same argument ok ur right 5600x isnt a bad cpu i actually use one untill now in my nas it's great since it doesn't need alot of cooling power

celest stone
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It's just what the person needs, they wanted gaming.

ocean canopy
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I am not a gamer and i dont game whatsoever and i originally said budget which means a specific needed performance in thevlowest price

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Like don't continue please i never said that its bad i said it's budget so just stop😅

celest stone
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If you're saying it's weird that he went with a 5600x and a 3090 then sure it's a bit weird but in the world of sff I've seen weirder parings like the 12100 with a 3090ti or 12400 with a 4090. It's all in the amount of heat it outputs. And most modern productivity tasks leverage GPU and barely touch CPU. Most not all.

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Not staying you said it's bad. Just trying to mention the reasons behind the choices of low tier CPUs with high end GPUs

ocean canopy
celest stone
# ocean canopy Yeah thx🙏

Ye, I don't like to argue with people I just want to see both sides of the story and mention the side that most people don't say

ocean canopy
celest stone
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For games 5800x3d is still the king until zen4 x3d

ocean canopy
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But the 5995x isn't the best

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Well talking about the best isn't going to end near soo😅

celest stone
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Honestly I've seen a lot of people that have money and stuff to go for the 139 or 7950x but still go 5800x3d for their gaming and editing just because it kills every other CPU in games and still is good in editing with 8c16t

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I just see those people going to the 7950x3d when that comes out cause that would be the god of all CPUs ATM lol

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You get 16c32t and top gaming performance

ocean canopy
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I am a 3d artist and i use a threadripper in my workstation cuz it has alot of cores although it isn't the fastest it is my way to go

celest stone
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But it's gonna be about as expensive as an arm and a leg

ocean canopy
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Kidney isn't that popular anymore huh

celest stone
ocean canopy
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I like democracy😀

celest stone
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Like my cursed contraption of a 7950x and a 3090 w/4 p41 2tb nvmes. It's not good for gaming cause I could've gone 137 and 4090. But I use it for virtual machines so having 16 full cores as opposed to intels' 8+8 or 8+16 is beneficial for me.

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My vms can't leverage TR or Epyc well cause of the low frequency or id have gone with the TR40 platform

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Having 4 5.5ghz cores benefits me more than having 8 3-4.0ghz cores

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Circuit Simulations are basically a single core CPU hog lol

ocean canopy
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Well my TR goes 4+ ghz all cores while my 12900k goes over 5 ghz soo??

celest stone
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I make my vms in 3 configs
VM1- 6c-12t as the primary workload VM where I do my renders
VM2- 6c-12t as the 2nd one to work on the simulations and metrics of the circuit I'm building
Host- 2c-4t as the host where I record all the data that comes from the two vms so it needs very little compute. Think office tasks like excel and calculators.

ocean canopy
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Got it thx

celest stone
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The host uses the iGPU and the two vms either get passed the full 3090 or I can slice it in half with windows sharing of GPUs between vms.

ocean canopy
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Yeah i don't really know much about these things thx for the explanation

celest stone
ocean canopy
celest stone
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I learned from trial and error. I've been working with vms and Linux since 2014 but there's quite a bit of videos on it on YouTube. And any questions you have can be found on stack exchange or reddit

ocean canopy
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Ok thx