Does anybody know how to fix a no post | Linus Tech Tips | Page 1

marsh sandal Dec 9, 2022, 11:44 PM

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What is does is it is on and I just built the pc today and it was posting earlier but really warm the fans were ramping up a lot

blissful orbit Dec 10, 2022, 12:47 AM

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marsh sandal What is does is it is on and I just built the pc today and it was posting earlie...

Can I see the inside?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 12:48 AM

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blissful orbit Dec 10, 2022, 12:48 AM

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What kind of drives do you have?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 12:50 AM

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I have nvme drives

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 12:50 AM

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H610 D4. What CPU do you have?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 12:50 AM

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It just posted earlier today and now I get really weird stuff happening

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12100f

blissful orbit Dec 10, 2022, 12:51 AM

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Check the boot priority in BIOS.

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 12:51 AM

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Remove your CPU cooler and look at your thermal paste spread

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 12:51 AM

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The system does not post

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 12:51 AM

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lucid bolt Remove your CPU cooler and look at your thermal paste spread

ok

blissful orbit Dec 10, 2022, 12:51 AM

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lucid bolt Remove your CPU cooler and look at your thermal paste spread

That could be it too.

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 12:52 AM

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Show a picture.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 12:53 AM

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Well when I checked the cpu cooler was not on all of the way but I made sure it was

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lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 12:53 AM

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Okay. Now remove the cooler and show me a picture of the spread pattern.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 12:54 AM

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ok

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lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 12:57 AM

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Okay. Nothing there that I can tell.

Remove the CPU and check for bent pins

blissful orbit Dec 10, 2022, 12:57 AM

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marsh sandal

You applied it pretty good.

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 12:57 AM

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If you see none re-insert everything and try to boot again

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 12:58 AM

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ok

blissful orbit Dec 10, 2022, 12:58 AM

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@marsh sandal Can I see how you connected your drives?

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:00 AM

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First things first.

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Do you see any bad pins?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:02 AM

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marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:02 AM

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blissful orbit <@332981168792403978> Can I see how you connected your drives?

This is how I connected them

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No bad pins

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:03 AM

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Okay. What parts are new and what parts are used?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:03 AM

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The gpu is used and the psu is used

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I tested the psu before I put it in the system and it still works really well and the gpu used to be in my old system but it is going in a different system

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:03 AM

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What are the brands and models.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:04 AM

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The gpu is an rx5700

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The power supply is a 550 watt 80 + bronze

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:04 AM

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Do you have another PCIe power cable to go to that GPU? You have both plugs on one cable feeding it.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:05 AM

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Nope because the power supply is not modular

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it is just daisy chained

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:05 AM

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That would have no bearing on it. Did you previously use this power supply with this GPU?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:05 AM

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Yes I did and it worked great

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:05 AM

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Okay.

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Okay so the CPU socket looks good. Do you have the memory in the outer channel?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:06 AM

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I do

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:06 AM

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Okay.

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Let's do a sanity check. Power it up.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:07 AM

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I took it out and tried to see if the motherboard but I tried turning on the pc without memory but didn’t work

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Same behavior no post

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:07 AM

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It won't. That's normal.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:07 AM

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I will put back in the memory but I tried 1 stick and then 1 stick in a different slot

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:08 AM

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Okay. Remove the GPU and see if there is a change. I know there is not an iGPU on this system but I want to see if it will throw the no GPU error.

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Make sure that you unplug power from the GPU after it is removed from the x16 slot

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:09 AM

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Should I power on the system without the gpu

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:09 AM

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Yes

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:10 AM

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or with the gpu after I reseated the ram

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:11 AM

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Remove and unplug the GPU then start the system

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Does it behave differently?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:12 AM

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should I plug the hdmi cable into the mobo

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:13 AM

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No. Your CPU has no built-in iGPU. I just want to see if the system behaves differently without a GPU.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:13 AM

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oh ok

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Same behavior with everything

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:14 AM

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Okay. Remove the SSD.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:15 AM

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ok should I still have the gpu removed?

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@lucid bolt

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:16 AM

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Yes.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:16 AM

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Sense I just removed the ssd

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:16 AM

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We are breaking it down piece by piece.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:16 AM

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lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:16 AM

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Start it up and see if it behaves differently

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:17 AM

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Still same behavior

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:17 AM

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Does it beep or anything?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:17 AM

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nope

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:17 AM

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Okay. Time to remove everything from the case.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:18 AM

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ok why should I remove everything from the case

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:18 AM

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Because you are going to put it back together outside of the case.

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Find yourself a box to put the motherboard on

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:19 AM

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ok now how would I turn on the pc then?

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:19 AM

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Touch a key or screwdriver to the correct pins in the bottom right corner.

One sec while I link your board manual

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:20 AM

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ok.

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Now what would bring it out of the case do just remove the fans

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Sense it will act the same way

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:20 AM

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https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1700/PRIME H610M-E D4/E19123_PRIME_H610M-E_D4_UM_WEB.pdf

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It will remove everything else from the equation. We are breaking it down to the total basics. Just the power supply, memory, board, CPU, and GPU

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:21 AM

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ok.

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Can I test it in the case with the front panel connector connected

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Sense I don’t really want it remove it from the case

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:23 AM

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You still need to physically inspect the backside of the board. Remove it all and check it

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:24 AM

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ok

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I am still pulling out the motherboard @lucid bolt

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:29 AM

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Ok.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:31 AM

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So I just took out the motherboard

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:32 AM

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Okay. Does anything look odd?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:32 AM

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Nothing looks weird

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:33 AM

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Backside?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:33 AM

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Should I try and plug in the system

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:34 AM

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Yeah. Plug everything in outside the case and see what it does.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 1:35 AM

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ok

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I just now how would I start it?

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@lucid bolt

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Same behavior

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Do you have any suggestions @lucid bolt

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Hello.

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 1:45 AM

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I'm here.

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Sounds like you have an initialization issue

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Without and parts to check against you won't be able to narrow it down between a board or CPU issue.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:04 AM

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ok.

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The board and the gpu are new and the pc just posted today.

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the only thing I could think of is that when I moved the cables around I had the pc on so unless the board became weird after that idk

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:29 AM

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@lucid bolt any other ideas

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:31 AM

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Well you could take the CPU heatsink off and hold the CPU while it powers on to see if it gets hot.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:31 AM

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ok.

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If came with thermal paste but I don’t have any and thermal paste is coming

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sense I ordered some

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:32 AM

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You don't have to touch it dead center

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You'll be able to feel it warm up if it is turning on

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:33 AM

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I mean my theory is that it has something to do with heat because when it did post the fans revved up real fast

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:33 AM

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Fans will almost always rev up fast when the system enters a failure state.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:33 AM

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really?

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:34 AM

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Depending on where the failure is, yes.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:34 AM

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I remember seeing sonthing saying 79c on something

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:34 AM

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That's not a failure temperature

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:34 AM

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What is extremely weird is that when I pulled out the ram and then tested the pc the cpu got weird

royal dome Dec 10, 2022, 2:35 AM

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Did you re-seat the cpu yet?

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:35 AM

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Yes.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:35 AM

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Not cpu fans

royal dome Dec 10, 2022, 2:35 AM

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Oh.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:35 AM

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sorry about that

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:35 AM

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And we checked for 1700 Flex.

royal dome Dec 10, 2022, 2:35 AM

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Hmm.

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:36 AM

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So this means board, CPU, or PSU.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:36 AM

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maybe psu

royal dome Dec 10, 2022, 2:36 AM

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You checked it's not the GPU?

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:36 AM

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Thus why I want him to remove the heatsink on the CPU and touch the corner when he powers it on.

royal dome Dec 10, 2022, 2:36 AM

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Maybe it's not displaying anything?

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:36 AM

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System status is unchanged. We've done all this.

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Read the thread.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:37 AM

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because the cpu and board are brand new and the psu is the graphics card are used

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:37 AM

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Okay. Go ahead and see if the CPU gets hot.

royal dome Dec 10, 2022, 2:37 AM

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Yeah, do that.

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:37 AM

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We'll be able to tell if the CPU is getting power or initializing.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:37 AM

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ok.

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The paste that is in there is not a lot

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:38 AM

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That's perfectly fine,

royal dome Dec 10, 2022, 2:38 AM

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Looks fine

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:39 AM

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Your cooler is the copper slug core. You don't need a full-cover of thermal paste. It won't contact anything

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:39 AM

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ok.

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now if the cpu does not get hot then what.

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:39 AM

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Then we are still down to the CPU, board, or PSU.

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And if you don't have known goods to test against, then we may be out of luck unless you have a multimeter laying around

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:40 AM

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I do have s multimeater

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:40 AM

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Okay. Get it.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:41 AM

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I am going to work on this more tomorrow because I have been at this for 5 hours but any way we can continue this tomorrow

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:41 AM

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Ok, if I am around.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:41 AM

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Should I contact you guys in this thread

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:41 AM

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Just post and it should come up

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:41 AM

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ok

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:43 AM

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CHECKLIST for the TL;DR

Symptoms are:
System fans revved up to full power then shut off.
System will now not post.

GPU has been checked.
All connections have been checked.
System was stripped down to board, PSU, CPU, GPU, and RAM for check.

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Did the CPU get hot?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:43 AM

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Before the behavior was just the pc would shut off after I reseated the ram I got different behavior.

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I am currently not home but I will check that tomorrow.

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 2:43 AM

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Ok

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:45 AM

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I’m kind of thinking there is so Tim g wrong with the airflow

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I mean if it was the airflow then I would have known right away

royal dome Dec 10, 2022, 2:46 AM

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There should be a positive airflow. I think

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:46 AM

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when I checked for air it seemd liek air was going through the case but the only thing I could identify was the cpu

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but the system would have never powered on and it is brand new

royal dome Dec 10, 2022, 2:47 AM

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There should be more intake than exhaust. Is there?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:47 AM

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well it is the fractal design pop mini air case

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So it has 2 fans in the front as intake and one exhaust

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@royal dome

royal dome Dec 10, 2022, 2:58 AM

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Yes?

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This is an ok airflow set-up

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:58 AM

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That is what the case was

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yes it is the default fractal has

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I mean I am just out of ideas

royal dome Dec 10, 2022, 2:59 AM

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If it is airflow you might want to buy a few more fans

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 2:59 AM

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I was thinking that because the same issue happened with when I had my 4000d case where it just shut off because of the airflow

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I mean the only option is psu but the cpu and mobo I just got today so there is no way things can be damaged

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Unless the motherboard got weird by when I moved the cables when the pc was on but I mean I shut it off and I didn’t get a post. The only time I got a post was by starting it up with a paper clip.

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 3:32 AM

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Airflow is not the problem right now, especially with low-power hardware.

zinc field Dec 10, 2022, 7:56 AM

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Yes

teal sphinx Dec 10, 2022, 10:39 AM

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Turn it on, than look what LEDS light up on the mainboard

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there should be about 4 lights

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please tell me if and which one light up

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and the Colour

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@marsh sandal

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 3:18 PM

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@teal sphinx sorry it was late at night so I am going to resume this today.

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 5:36 PM

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teal sphinx Turn it on, than look what LEDS light up on the mainboard

Read the thread. We've been through all of that

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 5:39 PM

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marsh sandal <@948571641775030282> sorry it was late at night so I am going to resume this to...

Okay. I want you to try something different. Disconnect CPU power and tell the board to power on. Use the multimeter to probe the pins for 12V power on the CPU connectors.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 5:40 PM

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ok

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So should I take the cpu out of the socket?

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 5:41 PM

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No. There will be no need.

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So when you remove the CPU power cables, you will need to probe one of the yellow pins and one of the black pins.

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You are looking for voltage

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 5:56 PM

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ok

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@lucid bolt

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What yellow pin and black pin

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 6:04 PM

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The yellow and black pins in the CPU power connectors.

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You see your CPU? There should be at least 1 8-pin connector near the top-left of it.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 6:12 PM

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ok.

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Should I take off the cooler? @lucid bolt

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 6:40 PM

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@lucid bolt I get the same thing happening

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The gpu fans spin like kind of but the knit fan spinning is the cpu fan

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:00 PM

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The point is to see if your PSU is supplying power to the CPU. To do that, you need the 24-pin power connected to the motherboard put the CPU power cables removed to check for voltage.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:02 PM

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ok

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:03 PM

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By doing this I would expect your board to behave exactly the same as it has since we are guaranteeing that during this test it will be braindead

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So we need to determine why it is braindead.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:04 PM

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ok. Now what should I take out

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:04 PM

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Just the CPU power cable in the upper-left corner of the board.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:04 PM

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oh ok.

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I have the gpu in currently

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:05 PM

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Remove it.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:05 PM

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ok.

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:05 PM

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Just need the board, CPU, and RAM.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:06 PM

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ok.

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I just removed the gpu

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:06 PM

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Okay. Unplugged it from power too?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:06 PM

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yes

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Should I turn the pc back on

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:09 PM

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Okay. Turn the board on. Set your multimeter to voltage and then probe the pins in the CPU connector. You want to check for voltage between any of the yellow pins and the black pins on the cable.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:10 PM

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I unplugged the cooler

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Is that what you want me to check

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:10 PM

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No.

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The 8-pin CPU power cable.

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That fan is going to be your only indication that the board is on. Leave it plugged in

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This cable.

https://www.silverstonetek.com/upload/images/products/pp12-eps/pp12-eps-5.jpg

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:12 PM

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Oh ok

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:12 PM

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Not the one that plugs into the GPU

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:12 PM

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These ones

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lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:13 PM

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The yellow and black one. Yes.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:13 PM

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So I will unplug those ones

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:13 PM

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Yes. Then turn the board on and check that cable for voltage.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:14 PM

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lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:15 PM

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Yes. Check for voltage. Connect the red multimeter lead to the one of the yellow cable pins, and the black to black

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:16 PM

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ok

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now how would I turn on the pc if there are no power connectors to the psu

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:17 PM

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I did say to leave the big 24-pin connector connected to the motherboard.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:18 PM

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Yeah I have that in there

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:18 PM

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Okay. Jump the pins on the motherboard to turn it on. It's that group of pins in the bottom right.

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Top row, pin 3 and 4

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:22 PM

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I can’t just start it if the psu is not fully plugged in

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:23 PM

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You aren't trying to start it.

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You are trying to see if the PSU is supplying power down the CPU power cable.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:24 PM

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Well I can’t because my power supply is not fully plugged in

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Unless I use the gpu power connectors

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:24 PM

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That has nothing to do with the power supply turning on.

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That is all controlled through the 24-pin connector

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:25 PM

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ok so can the system just turn on with the 24 pin connector then

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:25 PM

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It will turn on the power supply. That's all we need for this check.

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So with the 24-pin only connected, jump the pins I showed you. While the board is on check the CPU power cable for 12V power.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:26 PM

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ok

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These are the pins I am trying to jump from but I can’t get the system on

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lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:28 PM

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You see that larger block of pins? Those are the ones I am referring to. The

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You have a row of five and four, and then a row of four above that.

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That middle row of four, bridge pins 3 and 4

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You do have the CPU fan plugged in right?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:28 PM

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Yes I do have the cpu fan plugged in

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:28 PM

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CPU you mean

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:29 PM

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lucid bolt CPU you mean

Yes

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lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:29 PM

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You see that block labelled 16?

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THAT's the one you want.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:30 PM

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Yeah that is what I have been trying to do is start from those pins

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It says f panel

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:31 PM

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Right. That row of four. You just need to touch pin 3 and 4 together to get the board to trigger on.

And you do have the power supply plugged in and the PSU switch turned on, right?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:31 PM

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Ok it worked

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:32 PM

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Okay. Now check the voltage on that cable. Red to yellow, black to black. Make sure you are set to voltage mode, not continuity or resistance.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:34 PM

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ok my multi meter is being weird

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:34 PM

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What is it doing?

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:34 PM

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lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:34 PM

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You set it to Voltage AC mode.

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Turn it the other way to set it to DC.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:35 PM

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Like this

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:36 PM

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I would set it lower, about the 20V range.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:36 PM

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Ok I have it on 20 but the thing is not on

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:37 PM

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Probing the PSU in AC mode may have blown the fuse.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:37 PM

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I didn’t even probe anything yet

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the thing won’t turn on

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:37 PM

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I bet it's dead.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:37 PM

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yeah I got new batteries coming now

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They should be here in 5 minutes

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The board is still going and the psu is still running

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:39 PM

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Turn it off for now

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:40 PM

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ok

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Now what kind of voltage should I be looking for?

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High voltage or low voltage.

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:42 PM

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You want 12V

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Exactly.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:45 PM

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ok.

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If it is not 12 volts exactly then would the power supply be short?

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:45 PM

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What is the voltage on that cable?

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Tell me

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:46 PM

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I still have to get the batteries

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:46 PM

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One thing at a time then

teal sphinx Dec 10, 2022, 7:46 PM

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Did you cancel out a broken LGA socket? Like if there are any bend pins? Sometimes your MB prevents itself from drawing any power if the cpu isnt connectet the right way

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 7:47 PM

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YES. We are WAY past that, like at the VERY TOP of the thread dude

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There's only one way for the CPU to go in correctly.

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We've ruled out everything except the PSU, the CPU side of the board, or the CPU.

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So that is what we are working on now, but we cannot rule any of that out until he gets batteries for his multimeter.

teal sphinx Dec 10, 2022, 7:48 PM

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okay

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 7:51 PM

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They should be here in 4 minutes

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Sorry for the wait my multi meter turned on before but it’s being weird

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@lucid bolt They are all most here

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 8:06 PM

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Okay. I'm about to leave so I'll leave some instruction.

If the cable is supplying a voltage of 12V or close to it, PSU may not be the issue.

Turn the power supply off and set your multimeter to resistance mode. Probe the CPU power connector on the board. If the resistance is over 1000 ohms or it says open line, the problem going to be in the power stages or the CPU itself.

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When probing resistance do NOT turn on the power supply at all.

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If the resistance is below 1000 ohms, reconnect the power supply connectors to the board and power on the board. Return the multimeter to voltage mode and probe the CPU power cable pins for voltage WHILE the system is powered on. Note if the power is not in the neighborhood of 12V.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 8:08 PM

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ok now should the system be off when I have the multimeter in the psu

lucid bolt Dec 10, 2022, 8:10 PM

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When you check for voltage, no.

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When you check for resistance, yes.

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If your meter is set to resistance while the system is powered on, you will short it.

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Ping me when you get that done and I will hop back on for a quick reply.

Anyone else in the thread feel free to help him through this if he needs it.

marsh sandal Dec 10, 2022, 8:16 PM

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ok.

zinc field Dec 11, 2022, 4:57 AM

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Gg

plucky umbra Dec 11, 2022, 3:14 PM

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Verdict

zinc field Dec 11, 2022, 4:09 PM

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Gg

lucid bolt Dec 11, 2022, 10:43 PM

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plucky umbra Verdict

He has not responded

marsh sandal Dec 11, 2022, 10:57 PM

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Yeah I figured out what the problem is.

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the psu is the problem so thank you for your help guys

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The thing I realized was that the unit is only 550 watts so with my gpu and cpu being 309 watts and you add on another 100 or so for the other parts the psu only has 50 watts of breathing room

lucid bolt Dec 11, 2022, 11:12 PM

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Okay. So it may have tripped an overcurrent on the high-output 12V lines.

marsh sandal Dec 11, 2022, 11:32 PM

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Yeah probably but if the new psu does not work then we know it is a cpu or mobo issue which I highly doubt that would be it.

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So I am going to try and get a new psu and see if that changes anything. So that is the verdict

hollow narwhal Dec 12, 2022, 12:36 AM

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I find that hard to believe

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it's not going to draw tdp under no load

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and using 50w less than is rated should certainly work anyway

zinc field Dec 12, 2022, 12:43 AM

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Yup it should

marsh sandal Dec 12, 2022, 12:50 AM

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Everything is brand new so unless the mobo short I don’t see any other problem. It was posting with 50 watts left in the psu but it was failing.

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The actual system was so I mean I will try that and if nothing else then it is the mobo probably.

lucid bolt Dec 12, 2022, 1:13 AM

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We know the IO-side 12V is operating but the system is acting braindead. At this point the only thing left is EXTREME painstaking probing or parts replacement.

hollow narwhal Dec 12, 2022, 1:18 AM

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I am almost certain it is mobo

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what mobo is it

brave sable Dec 12, 2022, 2:32 AM

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@marsh sandal did you figure it out?

marsh sandal Dec 12, 2022, 2:34 AM

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Yes I did

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Basically it is the psu

brave sable Dec 12, 2022, 2:35 AM

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not enough power or busted?

marsh sandal Dec 12, 2022, 2:35 AM

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Not enough power

brave sable Dec 12, 2022, 2:35 AM

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what is it rated for?

marsh sandal Dec 12, 2022, 2:38 AM

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550 watts is the psu

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but the system is about 500 watts in total

brave sable Dec 12, 2022, 2:39 AM

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have you tried to build your computer online to see what should be the max watts.

marsh sandal Dec 12, 2022, 2:40 AM

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No how do I do that.

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I have done it on part picker

brave sable Dec 12, 2022, 2:40 AM

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do you have the link to your part picker

marsh sandal Dec 12, 2022, 2:40 AM

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Yeah but some of my parts were used

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My psu was used but it still works really well but just to low of wattage I realized

brave sable Dec 12, 2022, 2:42 AM

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doesn't matter, I can check and send you the link for you to check

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what are your parts? CPU, GPU, MB, Memory and SSDs

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https://www.newegg.ca/tools/power-supply-calculator/

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gives you an idea.

marsh sandal Dec 12, 2022, 3:29 AM

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12100f cpu rx5700 gpu 16gb 500gb m.2 ssd and

plucky umbra Dec 12, 2022, 3:41 AM

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I had the same no display problem. I just brought it into a shop because I couldn’t figure it out myself. I recommend bringing it in if it becomes too much

brave sable Dec 12, 2022, 3:42 AM

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it should handle by the calculation.. it should be around 500W max, but the PSU rating might not help.

marsh sandal Dec 12, 2022, 3:43 AM

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I also don’t trust this psu either after how many year I have been using it. I have been using it for like 5

brave sable Dec 12, 2022, 3:44 AM

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actually, looking at the parts, CPU max 60W, GPU max 200W, RAM 10W max, SSD 10W, MB not sure

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Ii usually over spec my PSU. 😬

zinc field Dec 12, 2022, 4:55 AM

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unkempt current Dec 13, 2022, 7:32 AM

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Psu replacement wouldn't be out of the question

zinc field Dec 13, 2022, 1:55 PM

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^

lucid bolt Dec 13, 2022, 10:56 PM

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That's basically going to be the cheapest option to start part-swapping with.

zinc field Dec 13, 2022, 11:21 PM

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Yea then part by part he will build a new one

proud haven Dec 14, 2022, 9:21 AM

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plucky umbra I had the same no display problem. I just brought it into a shop because I could...

Had the same problem and I just shorted the CMOS pins and took the battery out

zinc field Dec 14, 2022, 9:43 AM

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Yup

proud haven Dec 14, 2022, 10:39 AM

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zinc field Yup

Imagine Op reads this, does it and all is fixed. Would be pretty funny 😆

hollow narwhal Dec 14, 2022, 11:07 AM

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@marsh sandal du u have a pc shop nearby? Or a frnd? Just try plugging to his psu

zinc field Dec 14, 2022, 1:11 PM

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maybe a friend that owns a pc shop

hollow narwhal Dec 14, 2022, 1:15 PM

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Ye

plucky umbra Dec 14, 2022, 2:46 PM

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proud haven Had the same problem and I just shorted the CMOS pins and took the battery out

Lmao turns out for me I had the ram in backwards 😭

proud haven Dec 14, 2022, 3:10 PM

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plucky umbra Lmao turns out for me I had the ram in backwards 😭

How do you put your RAM in backwards KEKW

marsh sandal Dec 14, 2022, 5:57 PM

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hollow narwhal <@332981168792403978> du u have a pc shop nearby? Or a frnd? Just try plugging t...

already solved the problem read the thread

zinc field Dec 14, 2022, 11:34 PM

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how many slices did you make

hollow narwhal Dec 15, 2022, 3:19 AM

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marsh sandal already solved the problem read the thread

Oh

hollow narwhal Dec 15, 2022, 3:19 AM

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zinc field how many slices did you make

Lol

zinc field Dec 15, 2022, 3:29 AM

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Lol

lucid bolt Dec 15, 2022, 8:00 PM

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Don't post needlessly in support threads. There are plenty of other channels fellas.

#Does anybody know how to fix a no post