#PC running badly since the 522.25 nvidia driver update

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clever raptor
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i did the driver update 2 days ago, and then my pc started running noticeably slower and worse so i reverted back to 517.48 but im still having issues to a slightly lesser extent. gpu usage sometimes goes to 100% randomly and it'll total 100% depending on whats open (the screenshot shows just task manager but with chrome open it'll be a 60-40 split)

drowsy canopy
clever raptor
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my gpu is only a 2060 and i dont mine crypto

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idk what dwm is either

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i bought the pc prebuilt about 2 years ago as my first system and theyve not responded so i was told to ask here by a friend

drowsy canopy
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I've seen this exact behavior on two people's systems

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Windows Defender is hilariously bad... It lets malware in way too easily...

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I'm quite sure once the scan is done and it cleans your system, the problem will be solved

slender sonnet
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DWM is known to be buggy in 522. Downgrade the driver version and it'll resolve itself

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You're like the fifth person to have this exact issue with 522 in the last week

warped nymph
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Seen this issue on a couple of machines here itself
Downgrading the driver will fix it

clever raptor
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got 1 file deleted and it already feels smoother, ty

drowsy canopy
clever raptor
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antivirus

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id already downgraded the driver yesterday

drowsy canopy
drowsy canopy
slender sonnet
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I am bad at reading

slender sonnet
# clever raptor antivirus

Moving forward, the best antivirus is good common sense. A nice AV software like kaspersky is secondary to being mindful of where you click online.

drowsy canopy
# slender sonnet Moving forward, the best antivirus is good common sense. A nice AV software like...

"The best antivirus is good common sense" -- I seriously disagree... Exploits like eternalblue, the one in log4j, printnightmare, etc, and various SMB exploits, they all can happen in the background and infect everything silently, without you knowing anything, unless you have monitoring software running on screen and have eyes on it the entire time, from all - recently started processes, network monitoring graphs which show LAN and external network data separately, CPU/GPU/Disk IO/etc, and by the time you notice, stuff like saved passwords in browsers might already be uploaded to a C2 server and system might be infected.

What OP had here was crypto mining malware which infected core OS components, one of which was dwm, and this wasn't a subtle one. I have seen the exact same thing before and it was able to successfully infect svchost.exe, dwm.exe, explorer.exe and a lot more than I remember now (was on Windows 11).

There might be subtle variants of crypto miners that use just 20% or 35% of the GPU at all times and prioritize other applications so that the effect isn't noticable and normal people just don't bat an eye, and keep using everything normally.

Again - this was something that happened in the background with no indications. Windows defender is simply awful, and although common sense is good, it simply cannot save anyone from actual technical exploits in the system (one of which was EternalBlue). Windows security is stupidly broken imo because core system components like ntoskrnl.exe (System), various unnecessary services which use svchost.exe, etc have unrestricted network access that simply invites exploits. Windows firewall = anything can allow itself if running as admin...

Although it might be possible that in this case, malware was from a human error... people can be very careless with their tech.

slender sonnet
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malware was from a human error... people can be very careless with their tech.
LMAO you wrote all that (to a software dev who knew all this already btw.. I personally had to patch the log4j exploit at my job..) to end with the exact point I was trying to make. I'm not saying "don't use an antivirus" I'm saying "you'll have to rely on it a lot less if you're careful with how you use your computer"

I haven't had an infection in maybe 5 or 6 years, even though I regularly torrent media or my server, because I'm cautious about where/how I browse. Common sense is an essential tool in the belt of malware defense. To say otherwise is just plain silly.

The vast majority of kids with viruses in #1027757333117415424 either clicked a weird ad, were trying to download aimbot/cheating software, or doing some other form of piracy without proper due diligence. 90% of them wouldn't have gotten infected if they used well-crafted common sense when browsing the web. Of course, it's not perfect, that's what the actual AV is for.

Maybe you take your common sense for granted, because you're so gosh darn smart? That's the only thing I can think of here.